Hi Stephen,
Yes and no. It all depends on how the product key system was designed
and weather or not they are hardware specific. Simple name and key
systems, for example, will work on any computer provided the end user
provides the correct user name and product key. Therefore, in a case
like that
Hi John,
I will answer your questions as best I can but I think you have some
confusion over what the call stack is, how it works, and therefore may
be worrying about nothing.
First, as to your question there is no way to kill the stack with out
killing the entire program. If your function that
Hi Nicol,
Quite simply put the call stack also known as the control stack or
simply the stack is the way your memory is structured. Computer
programs push the address for a function or a variable onto the stack,
stacking them up like blocks, and when a function returns it pulls the
address off
Hi Lori,
Unfortunately, Liam hasn't been too communicative over the last couple
of years so I personally have no idea what he is up to. That said, I
agree he really does need to employ some sort of automated payment and
key replacement system as a lot of people are growing tired of not
receiving
Hi Shaun,
Well, as to your point about Dos not being dead I agree. Dos is
definitely not dead. Over the years I have encountered my share of Dos
enthusiasts who still use Dos on a regular basis, and have switched to
free Dos solutions like Freedos which is supposedly being updated and
maintained.
Hello Josh,
Typically both the Diamonds and the Hearts are red, and the Clubs and
Spades are black.
HTH
On 8/23/14, Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
hi
I understand in cards it goes
ace 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 jack queen king...
But what colors are what? what colors is hearts diamonds
Hi Shaun and all,
I'd like to point out while I appreciate you sending the Dos games to
the list it would be helpful to remind people that if they are running
a new PC with a copy of 64-bit Windows that any older Dos games will
not work. They'll have to setup a virtual machine in order to run
Hi Charles,
Its a link to a zip archive of Dos games. He mentioned it in the post
prior to this one. I agree he should have specified what it was in
this message or put this link in the prior post, but he did say what
it was in a different message.
On 8/17/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
Hi Shaun,
I have heard that some joysticks and gamepads had that problem with
not correctly centering even when properly calibrated. Although, I
haven't encountered that problem myself I have heard that was a
problem with some makes and models of force feedback devices. Not sure
if it still holds
Hi Aaron,
I don't know I'd go as far to say there would be little use for a
joystick, per se, although admittedly with a game like Paladin the
input would be pretty basic at best. There would be little advantage
of using a joystick over a keyboard in a game like Paladin in terms of
weather to use
Hi Dark,
I don't know much about how much control iOS has over the iPhone's
vibration, but I would imagine there should be some way to control the
rate of vibration and duration. After all we are just talking a
miniature motor that vibrates and should be programmable from a
developers standpoint.
Hi Jim,
Obviously weather to use or not use force feedback is purely a matter
of personal preference. However, I will say if a gamer isn't use to it
force feedback may feel a little strange at first. Its a different
form of feedback where you, the gamer, are employing vibration as
another
Hi Charles,
Yeah, I can't seem to find it either. I guess it was sent to Audyssey
when we were still on Yahoo. I'll have to check my backup drives and
see if I still have a copy. I found my review of the Logitech F510 but
not the Philips SGC-2909. I guess the question is how important is
this
Hi Jim,
Yes, I'm aware of all that. The thing is the initialization code only
needs to be done once for the controller. It doesn't matter how many
sticks, buttons, and other controls are on it as all of that will be
detected by your initialization of the device. Once it is initialized
all you
Hi Dark,
Yeah, now that you mention it I do remember the comment in It where
after Bill, Ben, Ritchie, etc encounter It for the first time there
was a comment to the effect once they had seen It as it truly was,
with all its masks thrown aside, it was not so terrible. I only
vaguely remember the
Hi Charles,
Yeah, it does sound fun. I'm eager to try it out.
The game you probably are talking about is Roller Coaster Tycoon. It
was a game in the late 90's or so where you built an amusement park
with various roller coasters and managed the amusement park. I never
really played the game
Hi Josh,
the link for the trailer was in Nick's original message. If I were you
I'd look for the first message of this thread in your inbox or trash
folder.
Cheers!
On 8/14/14, Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
can you post the link for the traylor
The hungry robot ate my signature so
Hi Charles,
I was definitely planning on including force feedback support for USA
Raceway. That actually has been one of the reasons that particular
project was held up as I was waiting for SDL 2.0 to come out with
force feedback support so I could include it in Mac and Linux releases
of Raceway.
Hi Charles,
POV stands for point of view. In mainstream games it is often possible
to change the point of view or the perspective of where the game
character is looking by using the POV hat on the controller to look
around at the game world without moving the character.
Typically the POV hat is
Hi Jesse,
As far as I can tell Paladin of the Sky does not have any joystick or
gamepad support. Only keyboard support. Although, in a game like this
joystick support would be sort of overkill anyway.
Cheers!
On 8/14/14, Jesse Gaona jesse.gaon...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all.
The recent
Hi Charles,
I see. Unfortunately, I'm not finding a copy of my review, but the
controller isn't that complicated. The controller actually has a
fairly typical gamepad layout. Although, that probably doesn't help
seeing as you are a newbie to game controllers.
In any case I'll see what I can come
Hi Dark,
Yeah, I know what you mean. When the Grue was mysterious you could
imagine anything you wanted to. However, when Infocom decided to start
describing them and even offered a drawing in some of their later
guides it kind of ruined the experience of having something mysterious
and unknown
Hi Jim,
Just for your info accessing both sticks on a gamepad is actually
quite simple with DirectInput. The joystates are lX and lY for the
left stick and rX and RY for the right stick. My memory of the correct
VB code is a bit fuzzy but it should look something like this.
' declare variables
:
I've been surfing on the web, and the software for your controller is the
same that mine uses, although I haven't found where to get it. Also, now
that you mention your make and model, I'm thinking that it is the one that
Thomas Ward did a write-up on, although I don't recall where it was posted
Hi Valiant,
That sounds about right. Although, that unit was out more like 8 years
ago rather than 10. However, as far as controllers goes it is getting
long in the tooth. However, it still works fine with a lot of games.
I've plugged it in on systems running Windows 8.1 and Windows finds
it,
Hi Dark,
Well, I agree that force feedback is definitely one of those features
that has never really lived up to its full potential. It is something
that a game developer could use to add a new and much more unique
experience to any game, but has largely been ignored or misused.
Therefore it
Hi Charles,
Yep. It sure does. Although, one has to install Philips drivers and
software to use the force feedback feature. I haven't had XP for ages
so have been running the Microsoft generic Windows drivers which work
okay, but lack force feedback support for the device.
Cheers!
On 8/13/14,
Hi Charles,
Yes, using force feedback to determine if a car is on the track or in
the marbles is an excellent example of a good use for force feedback
technology. When racing on the track the racing wheel could lightly
vibrate, a steady and smooth feeling, but when a car is in the marbles
the
Hi Dark,
I don't recall the comment you are talking about Stephen King making
in It, but in any case it is quite accurate. Things are always much
worse when imagined than seen.
As for the grues while other games have borrowed the concept they have
not stuck to the original concept Infocom
Hi Shaun,
thanks for sharing this. Definitely quite interesting. The odds of
this ever happening in someone's life time are slim to none, but its
nice to know the game can be played and won so quickly if lady luck
happens to shine on the player at just the right time.
Cheers!
On 8/13/14, shaun
Hi Shaun,
The review I wrote was for the Philips SGC2909 which is the USB
version of that controller. Philips also had a wireless version out
called the Philips SGC-2910 which was the same but was completely
wireless as I recall. Anyway, the SGC-2909 is the one people are
talking about here.
Hi Dark,
Yes, Boardwalk and Park Place are the dark blue squares. Boardwalk is
right next to go and is the most expensive property on the board.
Cheers!
On 8/13/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
Lol, the amusing point is player 2 can't even get out of that scenario, if
the fates decide that way
Hi Charles,
Agreed, but the point was the fastest game possible. Not necessarily
the smartest decisions when playing or what would be a good over all
strategy for a typical Monopoly game. The only goal being put forth by
the people in the article was seeing how fast they could finish a
Monopoly
Hi Charles,
The main reason is because when Jim wrote Mach 1 TTS he exclusively
designed it for his Logitech racing wheel. While your game controller
will work with the game the buttons and controls won't exactly match
up with those the game were designed for. Plus while there are
substitute
Hi Charles,
Oh, you think so. Maybe we will try and give one to you for Christmas.
However, you will have to remember to keep it in a dark place because
grues don't like light. Then again they are so ugly you probably don't
want to see it anyway.
Cheers!
On 8/12/14, Charles Rivard
Hi all,
This is just a note from your friendly neighborhood moderator
informing you that as of yesterday afternoon the Audiogames.net site
and forum are back up and running.
Cheers!
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Hi Shaun,
Interesting enough I haven't had a lot of formal computer training
myself. Truth is most of what I know is through direct
experimentation, trial, and error. It was only when I went to college
that I got some formal training, IE the paperwork to back up what I
actually know, but a person
Hi Charles,
Maybe, but there is a huge problem with your assumption here. You are
assuming that a game controller requires some desk space which usually
isn't the case. I can see it if the gamer is using a racing wheel or
one of those pro flight controllers as those do take up a lot of room,
but
portable
without a chord. Other than that my old Philips controller is just
fine as a controller.
cheers!
On 8/11/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
Rummaging through a box of stuff I had packed when moving into this house, I
have come across a game controller. I think that Thomas Ward
Hi Charles,
Yes. Use the CD that came with the controller. It comes with the
Windows drivers as well as the software needed for calibrating the
device. The software is also necessary if you wish to use force
feedback in games that have it like Topspeed.
Cheers!
On 8/11/14, Charles Rivard
Hi Charles,
Yes. That is a Philips gamepad.
As for which buttons do what most of those are programmable. Meaning
you can assign them to any function you want if the game allows it. If
you have the profiler that came with the gamepad software you can also
remap the buttons as needed too.
Cheers!
Hi Dark,
Right. As I said I'll see what I can do. I need to rethink the over
all design of Audyssey, figure out what our main goal will be here,
and go with it.
Cheers!
On 8/9/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
Hi Tom.
I certainly wouldn't object to audeasy replicating news, sinse not only
Hi Simon,
That makes sense. The thing that strikes me about this system is that
it seems to be geared towards flight based games. IE something like 3D
Velocity which we don't have too many of. I'm not sure what other uses
it could be used for outside of generic control since not everything
is
Hi Shaun,
Don't be ridiculous. I can sympathize with the reasons you may be
feeling discouraged and have a negative outlook on our chances of
keeping up with the mainstream markets, but even so a number of your
comments are a bit extreme. They are ridiculous when one thinks about
them rationally.
Well, Sean, its like anything else. The more you practice the better
you will get at it. There is no reason to be afraid of using a mouse,
joystick, or touchscreen. Its just a different form of input, and once
you use it more the more you'll grow comfortable with the technology.
Just saying, I
Hi Shaun,
Well, it is entirely possible your controller wasn't properly
calibrated. By default they should already be calibrated, but if not
you may need help getting it calibrated. That is one of those things
that comes with owning and using a game controller. If you want it to
work smoothly
Hi Shaun,
That explains alot of why you feel the way you do about joysticks,
keyboard, mice, etc. However, Che is very much correct. From a
mainstream gamer's perspective you are still something of a newbie,
have very little practical experience with mainstream gaming, and for
that reason
Hi shaun,
that may be, but as I said its a case of practice. If you aren't use
to it of course you aren't going to be very good at using a joystick,
gamepad, or similar device. Plus it also depends on if your controller
is properly calibrated. If not maneuvering can be problematic and
irregular.
Hi Charles,
Not necessarily. Each has advantages and disadvantages. A lot depends
on the game in question and what features you are looking for in your
controller.
One major advantage of joypads or gamepads is having multiple
thumbsticks. This allows you to control the game's character with one
Hi Dark,
Thanks. Good to know. Hopefully it won't take too long to get
Audiogames.net back up and running again.
Cheers!
On 8/9/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
To forstall all the questions, yes, audiogames.net is currently down. Sander
has confirmed that it's a server and database error not a
Hi Charles,
While I agree with you in principle that all games should include
keyboard support along side mouse and joystick support that does not
mean that there are certain cases where a joystick or mouse is
preferable. One of the principle problems here as far as I am
concerned is that there
Hi Dark,
Yeah, I know. In fact, it is because of this latest situation that has
made me consider rearranging my schedule to put more time into
building the Audyssey website so we can mirror links to new and old
games in case Audiogames.net goes down again like it just has.
Especially, now that
Hi Simon,
Well, that all depends on perspective. It may have been something of a
loss in the beginning, but once developers like myself knew for
certain someone was using such an expensive controller we could add
support for it, and use you as a beta tester. Therefore in the long
run buying it
Hi Simon,
Good point. One thing nice about joysticks is the fact they are
generally intuitive when it comes to gaming in general. Push the stick
forward to move forward, pull back to move backward, and left and
right turn or move in that direction. Its both more comfortable than
using a keyboard,
Hi Dark,
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll take those under advisement as I
happen to agree with you those are some areas where we can improve
upon the site and help out newbies to the community etc. Definitely
far more helpful than just another database of games.
Plus since Audyssey was intended
Hi Ishan,
Well, offering games for download from Audyssey isn't practical not if
you wish to keep it available as a non-profit organization. there are
many reasons why your suggestion is simply impractical for us. The
first is that disc space for a site is not cheap. We have to pay for
every gig
Hi Ishan,
Well, there are other Flash based games besides Drive. The new Blind
Swordsman is also written in Flash. The main question I have for
Danielle is are you looking for online based Flash games or off line
stand alone games written in Flash?
cheers!
On 8/8/14, ishan dhami
Hi Lori,
In Castaways it all depends on if there is any work to be done. If
your peasants are just standing around not doing anything there is
probably something else that needs done first and they are waiting on
some task to be completed. I'd need to know more about the situation
here.
cheers!
Hi Stephen,
It appears you are right. I just tried to go to the forum only to get
an error about not being able to connect to the MySQL database.
Hopefully the admins can have this sorted in short order.
Cheers!
On 8/8/14, Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net wrote:
Hi.
Looks like the forum at
Simon,
I personally have not tried the Saitek game controllers you mentioned,
but I can say what we have here as gamers and developers is a bit of a
chicken and egg situation. What I mean by that is if gamers don't have
and don't request support for these controllers at most all developers
will
Shaun,
That's where we differ in opinion. I came from the mainstream video
game world, and grew up on joysticks, gamepads, and so on and I can
tell you straight up front that using a keyboard is a drastically less
intuitive and less flexible mode of input. I'm sure your opinion that
keyboards is
Hi John,
Smile. All I can say is you need to post more. As it is I only posted
55 messages this prior month. that's unusual for me when I usually
have no less than a hundred in any given month. That said, I've been
tied up with other things this summer.
Cheers!
On 8/7/14, john
Hi Christina,
Yeah, it sure was. Although, I am not surprised since the list was
down for several days do to some issues with the mail server. No
traffic for those days has had a huge impact on over all traffic for
the month of July.
Cheers!
On 8/7/14, Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net
Hi David,
Let me say that is simply awesome! I have had the game for years and
have never managed to do that well on insane.
Cheers!
On 8/5/14, David Chung davidcsphdsee...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, friends.
I am writing to let you know that I conquered Troopanum 2 on insane
difficulty last
Hi Nicol,
Best guess is you have a corrupted installer for Troopanum. That would
explain why the installer can't copy the exe file to the installation
directory, because it can't unpack it for some reason. Best advice is
redownload the file and try again.
Cheers!
On 8/5/14, Nicol
Hi Nicol,
Glad to here you got it figured out. I know Avast and other antivirus
programs can be a pain when they block certain installations.
Cheers!
On 8/5/14, Nicol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote:
HI tom and all
My installation issue is eventually resolved.
avast prevented Troopanum from
Hi Charles,
Absolutely not. Contrary to what you believe not everything is found
in a user's manual but its a great place to look generally speaking.
In any case I have never heard of this cheat Ishan is talking of so
I'm rather skeptical weather or not it actually exists or if the
person who
Hi Ishan,
For once I agree with you. the user's guide doesn't talk about this
spoiler, assuming it exists, which brings me to the other issue here.
Are you even certain this spoiler actually exists. I have been playing
Shades of Doom since it came out and have never once heard of this
spoiler in
Hi Ishan,
Sorry, but I can't find anything of the sort. I need a specific url or
something. I have never heard of this so-called cheat, spoiler, etc
and is probably at best a bug in the game rather than a built-in
spoiler. I'm surprised in 14 years this is the first time anyone has
heard of this
Hi Charles,
I don't know but I always buy puzzles for other people to put together
for me. (Just kidding.)
Seriously, I'm not sure what fun people get out of being lazy in
games, but each to their own I guess. Its not for me to understand,
but to try and help people out whenever they want to do
Hi Ishan,
Are you talking about the bio disrupter mines? That all depends on A,
if you found any, and B, if you have any just drop one and when an
enemy monster comes in range it will trigger the mine and it will
explode.
If you are talking about the disrupter pistol the short answer is you
Hi Ishan,
to be honest I don't think age has anything to do with it. Nobody has
to help anyone just because they happen to be younger than himself or
herself. It is just the polite thing to do, but is not a have to
situation. Let's not get started on the entitlement mentality some
people have
Hi Ishan,
Simply not true. I have had files on Sendspace for longer than a week
with no problems. I know several people who leave stuff on Sendspace
for months without Sendspace corrupting their files. I am not sure
what you are basing your opinions on, but I can say its not true for
the most
Hi Austin,
To begin with you should have a total of eight messages instead of
four. There are eight slots you need to fill with the data wafers.
Unless you correctly fill all slots with the correct data wafers you
can not shutdown the experiment and complete the game.
Cheers!
On 8/3/14, Austin
Hi Dark,
Well, I can say from my general experience with dealing with the
public at large you are unique in your enjoyment of reading game
manuals. The majority of people, for reasons never explained to me,
just don't read them. However, I do not mind reading manuals, and like
you I actually get
Hi Ishan,
Regarding to decide where to go that often times varies from game to
game. What I mean by that in sector 1, for example, the intelligence
bases are randomly placed meaning you have to do a bit of searching to
find all three intelligence bases. Along the way you'll encounter
enemy
Hi Charles,
No, it is not illegal. To my knowledge Nicol only uploaded the setup
file for Troopanum which when downloaded will run in demo mode without
a key. If Nicol provided a product key etc that would be a different
story.
HTH
On 8/1/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
Is this
Hi Ishan,
As far as the marsh goes don't drive into it. Its as simple as that.
The object is to cross the river by fording the river and driving to
the other bank. If you center the ford and drive through slowly you
should make it into sector 4 just fine. It sounds to me like your
problem is not
Hi Lucky,
The key to defeating the Drake is to neutralize or minimize the
Drake's attacks while getting a few hits in of your own. For example,
if you have any scrolls now is the time to use them. If you can cast a
sleep scroll on him you can put the Drake out for a couple of turns
while you get
Hi Charles,
I agree. In fact I distinctly remember telling someone else that very
thing when he turned 40. Age is just a number, and sometimes people
make more of it than it deserves. Its the quality of life that counts
not what age the person is.
Cheers!
On 8/2/14, Charles Rivard
Hi Charles,
So do I. Definitely when it is on my list. Certainly If I had thought
there was anything the slightest bit illegal or underhanded about it I
would have said something.
As it is it was the same setup file offered by Justin before he closed
up shop. Nothing illegal about that since
Hi Charles,
LOL. Yeah, sounds like a recipe for disaster. Actually, it seems to me
in my younger more foolish moments I did something like that for the
fun of it. Self-termination by multiple mines is an interesting way to
end the game. Although, not very satisfying.
Cheers!
On 8/1/14, Charles
Hi Charles,
The last version of Internet Explorer for Windows XP was version 8.0,
and since XP is no longer officially supported no more Internet
Explorer updates for XP shall be forth coming. That said, if you are
willing to switch to Mozilla Firefox or Google' Chrome you can still
maintain a
Hi Charles,
You think so, eh? I don't remember the grue being too particular about
age, but maybe after Dark is so ancient he'll be easier to catch.
On 7/31/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
He's going to have to beware his own Grue.
---
Be positive! When it comes to being
Hi Tim,
I tend to agree. I know some blind users fondness for XP, but the fact
of the matter is the time is coming where blind users will have to
upgrade or simply get left behind. This issue of Internet Explorer is
merely a case in point of where sticking with XP for whatever reason
is no longer
Hi Charles,
That's a serious bummer. I'm afraid firefox was the one and only
solution I could come up with to resolve your problem short of just
upgrading the entire system to Windows 7 or later. I don't know
anything about your situation, but if you need Internet Explorer 9
you'd have to upgrade
Hi John,
Chrome is accessible if you know how to make it accessible and set it
up correctly. One way to make it accessible is to install Google's
Chrome Vox which is basically a custom screen reader written by Google
for Chrome. There is a Windows version of Chrome Vox as well as a
Linux version.
Hi John,
Ahem...there is no such thing. I can assure you there is no official
versions of Internet Explorer 9 or 10 for XP. There may be a hacked
version out there created by a third-party, and if so you get a hack
rather than an officially supported upgrade to the browser. Personally
I'd
Hi John,
The bunkers at the beginning of level 3 are definitely a tough one. I
generally try to activate my smoke and then burn rubber around them
and get out of their attack range and go for the enemy tanks and
choppers. That level is especially hard even with unlimited ammo on
the higher
Hi Jim,
I have actually considered something like that. I could use a nice
male voice like Vocalizer Tom, and have him do the voice overs for the
podcasts/walkthroughs. He would be more clear, a lot more
understandable, and of course he shares my name. It is something
seriously worth considering
Hi Bryan,
Apparently so. I have never figured out why so many gamers come on a
list like Audyssey, e-mail a developer, or go on the Audiogames.net
Forum and ask a question like how to do something that is clearly
stated in the manual. When asked if they had read it the answer is
usually no. That
Hi Charles,
I was pretty sure that was the case. If I were in Raul's position
giving a podcast or walkthrough I wouldn't spend x amount of time
going over hot keys either since the commands are in the user's guide
as well is in the game's help menu. If someone is too lazy or
unwilling to use the
Hi,
Well, as far as my all time favorite Infocom game goes I think Arthur
was my favorite. Not sure why, but I played that one quite a lot until
I finally finished it. Unfortunately, I don't think I have a copy of
the documentation any more which really bites since it is needed for
specific
Hi Dark,
that's nice to know. Especially, since I am not able to talk very
clearly do to the condition of the muscles in my face and jaw. I
frequently have to repeat myself two and sometimes three times to make
myself understood, and that is obviously unsuitable for podcasting,
walkthroughs, etc
Hi Bryan,
Perhaps so. Since he or she is going to get asked how to play it
anyway he or she might as well just not supply a manual and tell the
end users since nobody reads them from now on no manuals or other
documentation will be supplied.
In all seriousness this is what mainstream companies
Hi Ishan,
I'm afraid I'm the wrong person to ask. I have only played the Blind
Swordsman only once, and only briefly at that. However, there are
others on list who are more in the know about the game.
On 7/27/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi thomas sir!
Please tell me about
Hi Dark,
Grin. I've been passed the so-called big 30 for quite a while now, and
I can say the main reason I don't play alot of games, arcade/action
games, is a lack of interest rather than getting old. I can spend
hours with a game like Time of Conflict, but if I sit down and play
with something
Hi Ishan,
Not necessarily so. You said, in arcade mode everybody can win
because of endless ammo, but in standard mode it is harder. I have
actually played both modes many times and I don't really see that much
of a difference in difficulty. Sure, having endless ammo helps, but
most of the time
Hi Charles,
I liked Raul's walkthrough as well. Definitely a lot better than I
could do. I just don't have the right kind of voice for doing podcasts
and walkthroughs, and I always felt Raul was good at his walkthroughs.
Cheers!
On 7/31/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
The game
Hi Charles,
Hahaha. If the big 30 is ancient I wonder what Dark will think when he
reaches 40. After all 30 is really, really, really ancient you know?
Cheers!
On 7/30/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
I know what you mean. They sure are old, aren't they. God, how I hope I
can
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