[spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread Grant Ingersoll
As some of you may know, I've been working pretty heavily on spatial stuff lately. One of the things that has bothered me for a while is the use of the terminology: cartesian tiers. The thing is, I can't find any reference to such a thing in any place other than Local Lucene and Patrick's

AW: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread Uwe Schindler
I also know the name Quad Tree or Trie, but not sure, he it is really the same. Uwe Mit einem Mobiltelefon von Sony Ericsson gesendet Originalnachricht Von: Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org Gesendet: An: general@lucene.apache.org Betreff: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread Simon Willnauer
I would extremely prefer a common well know name instead of Cartensian tiers. While the API is still in flux changing the name is not that much of a deal either. Either grid or tiles is fine for me though while I would prefer the most common of the two - grid seems to be the better choice though.

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:31:14AM -0500, Grant Ingersoll wrote: As some of you may know, I've been working pretty heavily on spatial stuff lately. Been watching from a distance, glad to see it. :) One of the things that has bothered me for a while is the use of the terminology: cartesian

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread Grant Ingersoll
On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:00 PM, Ryan McKinley wrote: Do you think it is worth a name change? This is about to get baked into Solr and I would really prefer we choose names that the rest of the world seems to understand. If it hasn't been baked in yet, then +1. I do agree that it's

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread André Warnier
Grant Ingersoll wrote: On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:00 PM, Ryan McKinley wrote: Do you think it is worth a name change? This is about to get baked into Solr and I would really prefer we choose names that the rest of the world seems to understand. If it hasn't been baked in yet, then +1. I do agree

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Most of the atmospheric/climate/earth scientists that I work with refer to these tiers as grid boxes. I think you¹ll find different answers though, depending on who you ask. The scientific community is a bit different that GIS/decision support folks... Chris On 12/28/09 9:49 AM, Ryan McKinley

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread patrick o'leary
So Grant here's the deal behind the name. Cartesian because it's a simple x.y coordinate system Tier because there are multiple tiers, levels of resolution. If you look at it closer: - To programmers there's a quadtree implementation - To web users who use maps these are grids / tiles. - To GIS

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread Grant Ingersoll
On Dec 28, 2009, at 3:51 PM, patrick o'leary wrote: So Grant here's the deal behind the name. Cartesian because it's a simple x.y coordinate system Tier because there are multiple tiers, levels of resolution. If you look at it closer: - To programmers there's a quadtree implementation -

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread patrick o'leary
Hmm, but when you say grid, to me that's just a bunch of regularly spaced lines.. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.orgwrote: On Dec 28, 2009, at 3:51 PM, patrick o'leary wrote: So Grant here's the deal behind the name. Cartesian because it's a simple x.y

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread patrick o'leary
Hmm, depends, tiles indicate to me a direct correlation between the id and a map tile, which will depend upon using the right projection with the cartesian plotter On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.orgwrote: On Dec 28, 2009, at 4:19 PM, patrick o'leary wrote:

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread patrick o'leary
So trying no to drag this out, the most frequent generic term used in GIS software is SRID http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRID Again this provides just a basic nomenclature for the high level element, somewhat the blackbird of objects rather than the defining the magpie (sorry for the CS 101

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Patrick, Interesting. It seems like there is a precedent already in the Local Lucene and Local SOLR packages that define CartesianTier as lingua franca. Like I said in an earlier email it depends on who you talk to regarding the preference of what to call these Tiles/Grids/Tiers, etc., and

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread patrick o'leary
Ah the language of math is the ultimate lingua franca - Nice ! When you look at the coordinates entity from KML, ask why are the lat / longs reversed to long/ lat? Answer because the folks working on the display thought in terms of *display not GIS*, the point is over Y degrees of longitude and