Piotr Jaroszyński wrote:
Hello,
I have already submitted my application, but want to advertise it over here
too :] Comments are welcome!
Summary:
Create Python bindings, associated documentation and test cases for the
Paludis public API, and allow subclassing of Paludis classes using
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 01:46:45PM +1100, Jonathan Adamczewski wrote:
Paludis is a tool used for working with the Gentoo Portage tree - there is no
problem with it being part of a Gentoo Google Summer of
Code project as it will benefit the Gentoo project and its users.
Why not simply solve
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 12:29:06AM +0200, Petteri Räty wrote:
I got annoyed enough about emerge -pl not working when people don't use
echangelog like:
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/x11-libs/libXinerama/ChangeLog,v 1.27
2007/03/22 02:18:21 joshuabaergen Exp $
22 Mar 2007; Joshua
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 01:46:45PM +1100, Jonathan Adamczewski wrote:
Paludis is a tool used for working with the Gentoo Portage tree - there
is no problem with it being part of a Gentoo Google Summer of
Code project as it will benefit the Gentoo project and its users.
Why not simply solve
# Stefan Schweizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (24 Mar 2007)
# as-needed broken, unmaintained, for removal, bug 147550
x11-libs/libzvt
# use gksu now
app-admin/gnomesu
app-admin/xsu2
# use root-tail now
x11-misc/root-portal
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On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 01:31:08AM -0700, Alec Warner wrote:
[some stuff]
Thanks for the explanation, i guess that makes sense.
cheers,
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Harald van Dijk kirjoitti:
*fpc-2.0.0-r1 (03 Jul 2005)
[...]
Or should the *fpc-2.0.0-r1 line be repeated?
Also, would it be possible to sort the packages in some way?
This is a case that the script does not currently detect. IMHO the *${P}
line should be there if it brings more info to
Joshua Baergen kirjoitti:
It appears to be a problem with gentoolkit-dev-0.2.6.3. 0.2.6.2
produces proper changelogs.
Josh
Until the problem is solved everyone should downgrade back to 0.2.6.2. I
package.masked 0.2.6.3 in the meanwhile.
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172017
Harald van Dijk kirjoitti:
It complains about the fpc changelog, for 2.0.0-r1, but it seems okay to me:
Fixed the script to take package moves into account.
Also, would it be possible to sort the packages in some way?
The list is now sorted and I added a check for bad date entries in the
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We should not have third-party projects be part of SOC --
specifically,
things that are not Gentoo projects. I'd lobby this whether it was
pkgcore or paludis being proposed, so don't bother trying to pin
partisan accusations. Point is, it's not a
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 01:50:19AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Friday 23 March 2007, Josh Saddler wrote:
I'm very strongly against using Gentoo SoC time and resources for things
that are not officially part of Gentoo (yes, this statement could be
spun however you wish) or are not
app-shells/ash is based on a very old netbsd sh and also uses an
equally old Debian patch. ash currently has no maintainer. This package
has since become dash upstream, which we do have in portage and is
maintained by me.
The irony is that ash requires /bin/sh as bash to compile as part of the
On Saturday 24 of March 2007 13:54:51 Michael Cummings wrote:
Ditto. Gentoo SoC projects need to be for Gentoo developed and sponsored
code/projects, not third party projects, no matter how much they would
whither and die without a gentoo core. There was an example of gentoo+gnome
integration
Michael Cummings wrote: [Sat Mar 24 2007, 07:54:51AM CDT]
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 01:50:19AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Friday 23 March 2007, Josh Saddler wrote:
I'm very strongly against using Gentoo SoC time and resources for things
that are not officially part of Gentoo (yes, this
Any issues with this?
It is used by the following packages:
[+ C ] logrotate (app-antivirus/clamav):
Install logrotate script for clamav logs
[+ C ] logrotate (app-backup/bacula):
Install support files for logrotate
[+ C ] logrotate (mail-filter/dspam):
Install support files for logrotate
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 08:09:09 +0100
Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Check my counterproposal. I know it is more broad but it also fits
better Gentoo as whole.
For the ones that aren't following gentoo-soc:
- C/C++/Ruby/python bindings/API for package managers.
The idea is to have
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:14:50 +0100
Michele Noberasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any issues with this?
Yes. Check every previous time this has been discussed on this list.
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Ah, a couple additional things.
Diego wrote me and commented that he's not a big fan of accepting
proposals from existing devs, since the goal of the program is to get
_new_ blood into open-source projects. I think that's a good point, and
my personal preference is to accept strong proposals
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:30:55 -0700
Mike Doty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Grant Goodyear wrote:
[snip]
PS. So, anybody have any actual technical comments about this
proposal?
Yes. pioto's proposal is weak. lu_zero's counterproposal for
developing a method of having a package manager agnostic
On Saturday 24 of March 2007 17:30:55 Mike Doty wrote:
Yes. pioto's proposal is weak. lu_zero's counterproposal for developing
a method of having a package manager agnostic API is much more useful
than developing one language binding for one package manager.
1. pioto is a mentor this year...
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:30:55 -0700
Mike Doty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes. pioto's proposal is weak.
You mean Piotr, right? He's a different person from me.
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Sat Mar 24 2007, 11:38:45AM CDT]
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:30:55 -0700
Mike Doty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Grant Goodyear wrote:
[snip]
PS. So, anybody have any actual technical comments about this
proposal?
Yes. pioto's proposal is weak. lu_zero's
Mike Kelly wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:30:55 -0700
Mike Doty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes. pioto's proposal is weak.
You mean Piotr, right? He's a different person from me.
I do.
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I'm very strongly against using Gentoo SoC time and resources for things
that are not officially part of Gentoo (yes, this statement could be
spun however you wish) or are not official Gentoo projects. And no, just
because a project has Gentoo developers in it doesn't mean that it's a
Gentoo
People reporting bugs often get annoyed when their bug is marked
INVALID; especially when they're relatively new to the Gentoo
Experience. We've all seen it many times, I'm sure.
Arguably no bug is invalid in the normal sense - if someone raises an
issue, they have an issue, regardless what we
Kevin F. Quinn napsal(a):
Arguably no bug is invalid in the normal sense - if someone raises an
issue, they have an issue, regardless what we think of it. To that end
I'd like to propose bugzilla be reconfigured to use the phrase
NOCHANGE instead of INVALID. NOCHANGE would indicate that
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:34:21 +0100
Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
People reporting bugs often get annoyed when their bug is marked
INVALID; especially when they're relatively new to the Gentoo
Experience. We've all seen it many times, I'm sure.
Arguably no bug is invalid in the
Marius Mauch wrote:
Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Arguably no bug is invalid in the normal sense - if someone raises an
issue, they have an issue, regardless what we think of it. To that
end I'd like to propose bugzilla be reconfigured to use the phrase
NOCHANGE instead of
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 06:34:21PM +0100, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
People reporting bugs often get annoyed when their bug is marked
INVALID; especially when they're relatively new to the Gentoo
Experience. We've all seen it many times, I'm sure.
But sometimes, just sometimes, the bugs are
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Assuming you mean piotr, who is not pioto... The difference is, piotr's
proposal is possible and doable within the timeframe, whereas lu_zero's
sounds nice if you don't know anything about any of the package
managers in question and can't be delivered within three
Josh Saddler wrote:
We should not have third-party projects be part of SOC
I see 3 important points missing from the discussion so far:
(not directed at any response in particular)
1. We mentored projects like Piotr's last year, it seemed to work OK and
as far as I'm aware there weren't any
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Assuming you mean piotr, who is not pioto... The difference is, piotr's
proposal is possible and doable within the timeframe, whereas lu_zero's
sounds nice if you don't know anything about any of the package
managers in question and can't be delivered within three
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Which is all very nice in theory, but completely impractical and
useless in practice. There's far too much difference and far too much
complexity implementation-wise to make this practical for any
non-trivial functionality.
I'd like to have more details, please.
Grant Goodyear wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Sat Mar 24 2007, 11:38:45AM CDT]
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:30:55 -0700
Mike Doty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Grant Goodyear wrote:
[snip]
PS. So, anybody have any actual technical comments about this
proposal?
Yes. pioto's proposal is weak.
Am Samstag, 24. März 2007 20:53 schrieb Luca Barbato:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Which is all very nice in theory, but completely impractical and
useless in practice. There's far too much difference and far too
much complexity implementation-wise to make this practical for any
non-trivial
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 19:14:38 +0100
Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:34:21 +0100
Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
People reporting bugs often get annoyed when their bug is marked
INVALID; especially when they're relatively new to the Gentoo
Experience.
Danny van Dyk wrote:
* Paludis supports multiple repositories, don't know about pkgcore, but
i guess they support it as well. Portage doesn't. (actually it has 3
repositories, but that's not really related to multiple repository
support)
and mixing overlays and repository doesn't look
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:25:45 +0100
Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Assuming you mean piotr, who is not pioto... The difference is,
piotr's proposal is possible and doable within the timeframe,
whereas lu_zero's sounds nice if you don't know anything about any
I think that there is a problem of concept. If a bug is marked INVALID,
it's because it is not a real bug. Marking a bug NOCHANGE or
NOCHANGEREQUIRED, not only overlaps with other resolutions, but fails to
better explain the reason why the bug was closed, whereas INVALID indeed
means that the
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:48:25 -0400
Michael Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 06:34:21PM +0100, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
People reporting bugs often get annoyed when their bug is marked
INVALID; especially when they're relatively new to the Gentoo
Experience. We've all
Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
The problem I have with NOTABUG is pretty much the same problem I have
with INVALID - it's not as severe, but it still does the same thing to
the user (i.e. slaps him with a wet fish rather than a frozen one).
Maybe, just maybe, the problem is not with the resolution
On 3/24/07, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3. We should ask Google for their opinion on this. They are, after all,
running the scheme, PAYING US MONEY, and are the people who decide
whether we get to participate in future years. I have asked Alec to
inquire about this.
This is by far
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:07:08 +0100
Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Certainly good explanations as to why a bug is being closed are to be
encouraged. My issue isn't with that - it's with the way that the
marking INVALID is perceived, when there's no need to be so harsh.
And NOCHANGE
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:02:48 +0100
Ioannis Aslanidis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that there is a problem of concept. If a bug is marked
INVALID, it's because it is not a real bug. Marking a bug NOCHANGE or
NOCHANGEREQUIRED, not only overlaps with other resolutions, but fails
to better
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:17:52 +0200
Alin Năstac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
The problem I have with NOTABUG is pretty much the same problem I
have with INVALID - it's not as severe, but it still does the same
thing to the user (i.e. slaps him with a wet fish rather than a
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:46:07 +0100
Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:07:08 +0100
Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Certainly good explanations as to why a bug is being closed are to
be encouraged. My issue isn't with that - it's with the way that
the
Kevin F. Quinn napsal(a):
[snip]
See, I don't really care how the reporter feels, if something's not a
bug, then it's not a bug. Don't invent confusing 'politically correct'
junk for this just because someone might feel 'offended'.
Thanks.
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mailto:[EMAIL
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Jakub Moc wrote:
Kevin F. Quinn napsal(a):
[snip]
See, I don't really care how the reporter feels, if something's not a
bug, then it's not a bug.
In which case it must be a feature, so why not use the keyword FEATURE?
Don't invent confusing 'politically correct'
junk
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
[a succinct enough, yet complete examination of the problems and the
possible outcomes of my SoC idea]
Thank you for pointing all the issue and give a good review of the 3
package managers. Now I think it's up to the students and front-end
developers telling their wishes.
Christopher Sawtell napsal(a):
See, I don't really care how the reporter feels, if something's not a
bug, then it's not a bug.
In which case it must be a feature, so why not use the keyword FEATURE?
And why use it? Anything else than 'so that we are 'politically
correct'? Sorry, this doesn't
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 00:05:02 +0100
Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, so resolving 'INVALID' a bug for people that report crap like 'oh,
my sci-mathematics/*' thingy got horribly broken with -ffast-math'
causes an offense to them? Well, that's a good thing, maybe they'll
actually use their
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, so resolving 'INVALID' a bug for people that report crap like 'oh,
my sci-mathematics/*' thingy got horribly broken with -ffast-math'
causes an offense to them? Well, that's a good thing, maybe they'll
actually use their brain
Christopher Sawtell wrote:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Jakub Moc wrote:
Kevin F. Quinn napsal(a):
[snip]
See, I don't really care how the reporter feels, if something's not a
bug, then it's not a bug.
In which case it must be a feature, so why not use the keyword FEATURE?
Why would
Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Closing INVALID is like saying they never had an issue - when clearly
they did have an issue, even if it was just an issue of understanding.
If bugs.gentoo.org users think that it's like saying there's no issue,
ISTM the problem is with their
The first public draft of PMS is open for comment. The PDF is at
http://dev.gentoo.org/~spb/pms.pdf, and will be updated periodically
as changes are made. Anonymous SVN access to the LaTeX source is
available; I won't give the URL here since most won't need it and I'd
rather not run the risk of
On Saturday 24 March 2007, Petteri Räty wrote:
Joshua Baergen kirjoitti:
It appears to be a problem with gentoolkit-dev-0.2.6.3. 0.2.6.2
produces proper changelogs.
Until the problem is solved everyone should downgrade back to 0.2.6.2. I
package.masked 0.2.6.3 in the meanwhile.
isnt this
It looks like our social contract doesn't prohibit Gentoo from being
dependent upon a single sponsor or corporation. In the interests of
keeping Gentoo run by the developers rather than any outside party, how
about the following addition to the Social Contract?
headingWe will be run by the
Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
so you're not really solving any problem by just changing a
label. Some people will only ever be happy if they get the FIXED
label on their reports.
I'm not sure that's so. There are certainly many who don't like
their reports marked INVALID, at least initially. I
a semi on topic thought.
could bugzilla be changed so that the default search includes bugs in all
status. instead of just open bugs. I know sometimes I'll miss closed bugs
because I'll forget to do an advanced search.
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Darn, there go Piotocorp's plans of buyout...
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:21:46 +0200
Alin Năstac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Christopher Sawtell wrote:
In which case it must be a feature, so why not use the keyword
FEATURE?
Why would we need a keyword for that? We already have enhancement
as a possible value of the severity field.
I think
On Saturday 24 March 2007, Caleb Cushing wrote:
could bugzilla be changed so that the default search includes bugs in all
status. instead of just open bugs. I know sometimes I'll miss closed bugs
because I'll forget to do an advanced search.
there is an open regression bug about this
-mike
On Saturday 24 March 2007, Mike Kelly wrote:
Or maybe people need to lighten up a bit more
there it is
-mike
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Mike Kelly wrote:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:21:46 +0200
Alin NÄstac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Christopher Sawtell wrote:
In which case it must be a feature, so why not use the keyword
FEATURE?
Why would we need a keyword for that? We already have enhancement
as a
Sadly, this just goes to show how people need to be more careful in
their wording in a community like ours with people coming from so many
different cultures. Or maybe people need to lighten up a bit more, I
don't really know which.
Anyone have any further suggestions how we as a community
On Sat, 2007-03-24 at 21:56 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Saturday 24 March 2007, Petteri Räty wrote:
Joshua Baergen kirjoitti:
It appears to be a problem with gentoolkit-dev-0.2.6.3. 0.2.6.2
produces proper changelogs.
Until the problem is solved everyone should downgrade back to
and I'd assume users might get rather confused to answer questions
that are then thrown away later.
I don't unterstand what do you mean by that...
Another (relatively minor) problem
is that the flags set in such a session would have to be made
persistent somehow, and I wouldn't want emerge
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