On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 17:14:52 -0700, walt wrote:
On 09/29/2010 03:40 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
Hi all users,
we hope to be able to provide a better experience for all of you at
the end of this (bumpy) journey.
Thanks!
It's good to have direct communication from devs, especially
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 00:40:06 +0200, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
Secondly, you can avoid any future requirement for this by sanitising
the newly installed .la files; this can be done either by using the
(currently testing) Portage 2.1.9 series, or by adding the following
snippet to your
Is it possible to copy the kmail mail folders/messages so that they can be
read by opera's mail client?
Thanks for any replies
Paul
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Heya,
I noticed that my firefox-bin is a lot smaller in memory footprint
compared to ordinary gentoo-compiled firefox.
Does anyone know what compiler flags upstream applies to their
firefox? I turned off the custom-optimization USE on mine assuming
that it would follow upstream optimizations, but
walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
On 09/29/2010 03:40 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
Hi all users,
we hope to be able to provide a better experience for all of you at
the end of this (bumpy) journey.
Thanks!
On behalf of the Geriatric Gentoo Users Group I say, No, please, allow us to
1006.
How can I clean this up?
IIRC repo names must be single strings without spaces.
What a self destructive idea of me to use whitspaces. Thanks, I changed that.
I started the whole bootstrapping skript from the beginning. So I this
doesn't confirm, if it was the real reason.
Al
Taring my mp3 collection from 2.5in 500MB internal sata drive (sda) to esata
3.5in 500MB drive (sdb) and it seems slow. In vmstat i can see that the
external drive writes faster than the internal can read (external has
periods of inactivity)
# time tar cf /mnt/usbdrive/mp3back.tar mp3/
real
On 30 September 2010 09:58, Paul Stear gen...@appjaws.plus.com wrote:
Is it possible to copy the kmail mail folders/messages so that they can be
read by opera's mail client?
Yes and there's different ways to go about it:
If you chose back then to have your kmail storing messages in maildir
On 09/30/2010 12:58 PM, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
Heya,
I noticed that my firefox-bin is a lot smaller in memory footprint
compared to ordinary gentoo-compiled firefox.
Does anyone know what compiler flags upstream applies to their
firefox? I turned off the custom-optimization USE on mine
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Johannes Kimmel johannes.kim...@gmx.de wrote:
On 09/30/2010 12:58 PM, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
Heya,
I noticed that my firefox-bin is a lot smaller in memory footprint
compared to ordinary gentoo-compiled firefox.
Does anyone know what compiler flags
Am Donnerstag 30 September 2010, 12:58:36 schrieb Adam Carter:
Taring my mp3 collection from 2.5in 500MB internal sata drive (sda) to
esata 3.5in 500MB drive (sdb) and it seems slow. In vmstat i can see that
the external drive writes faster than the internal can read (external has
periods of
Adam Carter adamcarter3 at gmail.com writes:
Taring my mp3 collection from 2.5in 500MB internal sata drive
(sda) to esata 3.5in 500MB drive (sdb) and it seems slow.
Well, there are multiple avenues to nail down your specific issues,
most documented or hinted at in the archives of this
Il giorno gio, 30/09/2010 alle 09.55 +0100, Neil Bothwick ha scritto:
I find this part a little confusing. Are you saying to add the
function
to bashrc if you are not using portage 2.1.9? How about those of us
using
2.2?
2.2 series also got the same feature, but I don't remember since which
On Thursday 30 September 2010 09:53:40 Neil Bothwick wrote:
Hey, how do I join GGUG?
You're too old, Neil. Same as me.
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Jacob Todd jaketodd422 at gmail.com writes:
Cross compiling on unix is confusing because the compiler sucks.
(hmmm, nope you are wrong, and statements like that will get
you little helpimho
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/
Some wizards of cross_compiling hang out on
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:47:10 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
Hey, how do I join GGUG?
You're too old, Neil. Same as me.
In that case, I'll declare myself a member of the other GGUG, Grumpy
Gentoo User Group.
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Micro-: (prefix) anything both very small and very expensive.
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:31:57 +0200, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
I find this part a little confusing. Are you saying to add the
function
to bashrc if you are not using portage 2.1.9? How about those of us
using
2.2?
2.2 series also got the same feature, but I don't remember since
Il giorno gio, 30/09/2010 alle 16.10 +0100, Neil Bothwick ha scritto:
2.2 series also got the same feature, but I don't remember since
which
rc… the latest masked version is definitely fine though.
Does that mean I shouldn't have to run lafilefixer as it run
automatically on new
On Thursday 30 September 2010 14:10:42 Florian Philipp wrote:
An HDD gets slower when you read the inner tracks. The angular
velocity is constant (5400 RPM) while the tangential velocity gets
lower with the radius.
Are you telling us that the length of a stored bit is constant? I'd have
On Thursday 30 September 2010 16:08:25 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:47:10 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
Hey, how do I join GGUG?
You're too old, Neil. Same as me.
In that case, I'll declare myself a member of the other GGUG, Grumpy
Gentoo User Group.
Is membership open
On 09/30/2010 07:00 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Thursday 30 September 2010 14:10:42 Florian Philipp wrote:
An HDD gets slower when you read the inner tracks. The angular
velocity is constant (5400 RPM) while the tangential velocity gets
lower with the radius.
Are you telling us that the
Now this really scared me:
I just updated portage tree and checked if there are some updates
to install. To my surprise a huge list came with ~40 new ebuilds:
# emerge --pretend --update --deep --newuse world
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies...
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@gmail.com wrote:
Il giorno gio, 30/09/2010 alle 16.10 +0100, Neil Bothwick ha scritto:
2.2 series also got the same feature, but I don't remember since
which
rc… the latest masked version is definitely fine though.
Does that
Although we understand your frustration we do not sympathyse becasue we've
all had to learn it.
No it's not a checkbox it's a complie time option; and should be passed when
you compile your code.
like ls -alh
GCC only looks difficult because you are new and have not used many other
compilers;
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 06:20:54PM +0200, Jarry wrote:
# emerge --pretend --update --deep --newuse world
snip
[ebuild N] perl-core/Module-Build-0.36.07
[ebuild N] virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.36.07
[ebuild N] dev-perl/Error-0.17.016 USE=-test
[ebuild N]
Am 30.09.2010 18:00, schrieb Peter Humphrey:
On Thursday 30 September 2010 14:10:42 Florian Philipp wrote:
An HDD gets slower when you read the inner tracks. The angular
velocity is constant (5400 RPM) while the tangential velocity gets
lower with the radius.
Are you telling us that the
On Thursday 30 September 2010, Adam Carter wrote:
Taring my mp3 collection from 2.5in 500MB internal sata drive (sda) to
esata 3.5in 500MB drive (sdb) and it seems slow. In vmstat i can see that
the external drive writes faster than the internal can read (external has
periods of inactivity)
#
I've noticed recently that the Gentoo handbook web pages are
ridiculously wide. (It seems to me that they didn't used to be, but I
wouldn't swear to that).
For example, look at this page:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/?part=1chap=2
The normal text paragraphs have lines
On Thursday 30 September 2010, Grant Edwards wrote:
That has lines that average about 140 characters. That's still much
longer than what I'd consider good practice.
I am counting 105.
Do the extremely long lines in the handbook web pages bother anybody
else?
not me. Not with
Hi folks,
I've got some RHEL instance on an z/VM (s390) and like to get
Gentoo running in chroot. Did anyone already do that ?
Or any HOWTO ?
thx
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On 2010-09-30, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Thursday 30 September 2010, Grant Edwards wrote:
That has lines that average about 140 characters. That's still much
longer than what I'd consider good practice.
I am counting 105.
Do the extremely long lines in
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Grant Edwards
grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
I can understand that things like example code blocks or sample
command input/output blocks might need to be wide enough to require
horizontal scrolling of a browser window, but normal text paragraphs
with 160
Hi Grant,
I can only confirm this. Long lines are difficult to focus, so they
are tiresome to read.
For this reason typical newspapers have small columns. Personally I
even prefer to read ebooks on the very small display of a mobile
phone.
Al
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:01:14 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
In that case, I'll declare myself a member of the other GGUG, Grumpy
Gentoo User Group.
Is membership open to Grumpy Old Gentoo Users like me as well?
Membership is open to anyone proud to admit to being a member :)
--
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On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:25:57 +0200, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
Does that mean I shouldn't have to run lafilefixer as it runs
automatically on new installs?
You should still run it once, to make sure that the system is clean, but
you can forget about it afterwards, and even unmerge it
On 2010-09-30, Darren Kirby bulli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Grant Edwards
grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
I can understand that things like example code blocks or sample
command input/output blocks might need to be wide enough to require
horizontal scrolling of a
On 2010-09-30, Al oss.el...@googlemail.com wrote:
I can only confirm this. Long lines are difficult to focus, so they
are tiresome to read.
And when you have to scroll the window back-and-forth for each line,
it makes you want to scream.
For this reason typical newspapers have small columns.
On 09/30/2010 08:13 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
I've noticed recently that the Gentoo handbook web pages are
ridiculously wide. (It seems to me that they didn't used to be, but I
wouldn't swear to that).
For example, look at this page:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:25:57 +0200, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
Does that mean I shouldn't have to run lafilefixer as it runs
automatically on new installs?
You should still run it once, to make sure that the system is
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Grant Edwards
grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm using firefox, and the text doesn't reformat for me. I just end
up with a change in the size of the horizontal scrollbar. Are you
sure you're looking at the same pages I was talking about?
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Grant Edwards
grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
I've noticed recently that the Gentoo handbook web pages are
ridiculously wide. (It seems to me that they didn't used to be, but I
wouldn't swear to that).
For example, look at this page:
On 2010-09-30, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2010-09-30, Darren Kirby bulli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Grant Edwards
grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
I can understand that things like example code blocks or sample
command input/output blocks
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2010-09-30, Darren Kirbybulli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Grant Edwards
grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
I can understand that things like example code blocks or sample
command input/output blocks might need to be wide enough to
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Grant Edwards
grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
I've noticed recently that the Gentoo handbook web pages are
ridiculously wide. (It seems to me that they didn't used to be, but I
On 2010-09-30, Darren Kirby bulli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Grant Edwards
grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm using firefox, and the text doesn't reformat for me. ?I just end
up with a change in the size of the horizontal scrollbar. ?Are you
sure you're looking
On 2010-09-30, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Grant Edwards
grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
I've noticed recently that the Gentoo handbook web pages are
ridiculously wide. (It seems to me that they didn't used to be, but I
wouldn't swear to that).
On 2010-09-30, Darren Kirby bulli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Grant Edwards
grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
I've noticed recently that the Gentoo handbook web pages are
ridiculously wide. (It
On 2010-09-30, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2010-09-30, Darren Kirbybulli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Grant Edwards
grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
I can understand that things like example code blocks or sample
command
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Grant Edwards
grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you have some custom css stylesheets that override the default or
something?
Nope. Not that I know of. I presume I'd have to do something I'd
likely remember?
Yes, you would definitely remember if you did
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:01:14 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
In that case, I'll declare myself a member of the other GGUG, Grumpy
Gentoo User Group.
Is membership open to Grumpy Old Gentoo Users like me as well?
Membership is open to anyone proud to admit
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2010-09-30, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2010-09-30, Darren Kirbybulli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Grant Edwards
grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
I can understand that things like
On Thursday 30 September 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Hi folks,
I've got some RHEL instance on an z/VM (s390) and like to get
Gentoo running in chroot. Did anyone already do that ?
Or any HOWTO ?
Me, some time ago. :) Have a look at
On 2010-09-30, Darren Kirby bulli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Grant Edwards
grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you have some custom css stylesheets that override the default or
something?
Nope. Not that I know of. I presume I'd have to do something I'd
likely
On 09/30/2010 05:30 AM, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Johannes Kimmeljohannes.kim...@gmx.de wrote:
On 09/30/2010 12:58 PM, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
Heya,
I noticed that my firefox-bin is a lot smaller in memory footprint
compared to ordinary gentoo-compiled
On 2010-09-30, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Grant Edwards wrote:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/?part=1chap=2
This one has a horizontal scrollbar but only adjust about a half inch or
so. It almost fits.
Are the text paragraphs re-wrapped as
Grant Edwards wrote:
SNIP
Whatever's generating the HTML/CSS for the Gentoo manual web pages
does know the difference, and should be able to do The Right
Thing(tm). The manual HTML is definitely machine-generated, but I
can't tell you by what at this point, so I can't offer a specific
fix...
On 2010-09-30, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Grant Edwards wrote:
SNIP
Whatever's generating the HTML/CSS for the Gentoo manual web pages
does know the difference, and should be able to do The Right
Thing(tm). The manual HTML is definitely machine-generated, but I
can't tell you by what
Hi Edward,
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2010-09-30, Darren Kirby bulli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Grant Edwards
grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you have some custom css stylesheets that override the default or
something?
Nope. Not that I know of. I presume I'd
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 3:37 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
On 09/30/2010 05:30 AM, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Johannes Kimmeljohannes.kim...@gmx.de
wrote:
On 09/30/2010 12:58 PM, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
Heya,
I noticed that my firefox-bin is a lot
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2010-09-30, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Grant Edwards wrote:
SNIP
Whatever's generating the HTML/CSS for the Gentoo manual web pages
does know the difference, and should be able to do The Right
Thing(tm). The manual HTML is definitely machine-generated,
On 2010-09-30, J??rg Schaible joerg.schai...@gmx.de wrote:
I could reduce the minimum size of my fixed font, but that only
helps until the next web page comes along with an even wider code
block.
Try a different fixed font. At the end I've chosen Monotype,
because it seems to have the
On 2010-09-30, J??rg Schaible joerg.schai...@gmx.de wrote:
Grant Edwards wrote:
playing around here a bit more and you are correct, the text will
only reformat to the width of the longest code block before the
horizontal scroll appears. On the Creating a Cross-Compiler page
you linked to the
On Thursday 30 September 2010 17:50:41 Florian Philipp wrote:
Am 30.09.2010 18:00, schrieb Peter Humphrey:
On Thursday 30 September 2010 14:10:42 Florian Philipp wrote:
An HDD gets slower when you read the inner tracks. The angular
velocity is constant (5400 RPM) while the tangential
On Thursday 30 September 2010 19:30:04 Mark Knecht wrote:
GGUG +1
GOGUG +1
Time to set up an e-mail list?
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They're readable even on my droid x.
On Sep 30, 2010 1:15 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
I've noticed recently that the Gentoo handbook web pages are
ridiculously wide. (It seems to me that they didn't used to be, but I
wouldn't swear to that).
For example, look at this
On 2010-09-30, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/?part=1chap=2
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1
They're readable even on my droid x.
Really?
You don't have to scroll back-and-forth to see an entire line
Not if I rotate the screen.
On Sep 30, 2010 7:17 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2010-09-30, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/?part=1chap=2
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1
They're
On 09/30/2010 11:13 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
I consider most uses of emerge -e world as the Gentoo equivalent of a
Windows reinstall.
You are obviously already a member of the Geriatric Gentoo Users Group, but
perhaps you just forgot about it. I certainly did.
Top posting because Jacob had too. ;-)
I have only seen those things on TV but it's hard to figure how
something can fit on that little thing and won't fit on my 19 monitor
that runs 1280x1024. You must have some pretty small fonts or something.
Dale
:-) :-)
Jacob Todd wrote:
Not if
Hello all,
Getting very frustrated here. Trying to put the finishing touches on a
new laptop install. I have verified using the CLI that both wired and
wireless networking works fine when I configure manually. As with most
laptops, I would imagine, I will be switching locations often, and
Just the default android fonts. They're small, but readable. Thank google
for pinch zoom. :p
Your harddisk seeks, everything is slow.
So does that then mean that my options are;
1. Defragment, so there is less seeking
2. Get an SSD
Since 2 is too expensive for a decent size drive, is there anything i can do
about 1 without a backup and restore operation? Or will the fragmentation be
Gentoo networking is a bit on the wild side - it doesnt seem to work
nicely with third party tools without a lot of work.
My fix was to manually configure each location (and a couple of general
ones such as wifi hotspot, and basic wired dhcp) as I came across them
and copy the resulting config
Hey Bill,
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Bill Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
Gentoo networking is a bit on the wild side - it doesnt seem to work
nicely with third party tools without a lot of work.
My fix was to manually configure each location (and a couple of general
ones such as
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Darren Kirby bulli...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
I am wondering if I should just uninstall KNetworkManager, and try
nm-applet? Will that even work on a KDE desktop? Will it require
installing boatloads of gnome crap I don't want? Should I chuck the
whole works and
Hello,
I have a system with two network cards. The cards are configured for DHCP
for two separate networks and they get their respective IP addresses from
the different DCHP servers.
The problem is that the network access on Ieither/I network is sporatic
at best. The networks are as follows:
No I am saying create a unique /etc/conf./net, hosts file, bind files,
firewall files (shorewall in my
case), /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf and anything else that
has a unique setup per site and put them together in another directory.
I have tried putting everything in the net file in
You need to break this down into the local (connected) networks, that is,
the subnet that the NIC are in and remote networks, that is, networks that
are reachable via ,say, the default gateway. My first guess is the the
default route is flipping back and forth as each NIC gets its address
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Darren Kirby bulli...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
I am wondering if I should just uninstall KNetworkManager, and try
nm-applet? Will that even work on a KDE desktop? Will it require
Right, so I uninstalled nm-applet, NetworkManager and all that,
emerged wicd, and bam...everything Just Worked.
Going to stick with wicd for now. Thanks for the replys all...
D
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On Friday 01 October 2010, Adam Carter wrote:
Your harddisk seeks, everything is slow.
So does that then mean that my options are;
1. Defragment, so there is less seeking
2. Get an SSD
Since 2 is too expensive for a decent size drive, is there anything i can
do about 1 without a
Dump NetworkManager.
Use wicd.
All these issues just GoAway(tm) with wicd
Hello all,
Getting very frustrated here. Trying to put the finishing touches on a
new laptop install. I have verified using the CLI that both wired and
wireless networking works fine when I configure manually. As with
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
Dump NetworkManager.
Use wicd.
All these issues just GoAway(tm) with wicd
Thanks Alan, I've just realized that. Wish I could get the last 10
hours back though :)
D
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