[gentoo-user] mplayer id3v2

2011-05-13 Thread Andrey Moshbear
Is there a patch for mplayer (1.0-rc4) that adds id3v2 support? Googling the mailinglist archives, it was said that the previous implementation had vulns and was hence scrapped, but it sucks not having it. There are unofficial forks of mplayer which have id3v2, but there's no ebuild, in layman or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 12 May 2011 09:38:15 -0500, Dale wrote: Which supports my point. Maintain KDE3 until KDE4 is stable and usable. If it is still working, which I think it is tho some fixes have had to be made, then why couldn't KDE support KDE3 just a little while longer. Because it would be more

Re: [gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install

2011-05-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 12 May 2011 16:41:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: I tried to find an answer via http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/ but it seems to lack a search function/box. :-( Use Google, search for search string site:archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user -- Neil Bothwick When the going gets tough,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 12 May 2011 16:44:21 -0500, Dale wrote: Your questions don't disprove what me and others have posted. As I have said on the KDE mailing list, KDE made a serious mistake dropping KDE3 before KDE4 was ready. How exactly did they drop it? It's still available from

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 12 May 2011 10:51:32 -0400, Indi wrote: If it's as good as everyone says, what more support did it need? Did the KDE guys come knocking on your door to remove it, or do it remotely (Android anyone?), or did it just keep working? That argument is probably valid when limiting the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Indi
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:50:03AM +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 12 May 2011 10:51:32 -0400, Indi wrote: If it's as good as everyone says, what more support did it need? Did the KDE guys come knocking on your door to remove it, or do it remotely (Android anyone?), or did it just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Dale
Indi wrote: I was just sharing my opinion, which was informed by my experience. I'm surprised by the vehemence and persistence of (apparently) political rhetoric in response to that. Obviously the solutions look really simple and matter-of-fact a year and a half later. The options were rather

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Stroller
On 12/5/2011, at 11:57pm, Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: On 12/5/2011, at 6:20pm, Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: `date +%l:%M%P` Here's mine: root@fireball / # date +%l:%M%P 12:19pm root@fireball / # And what are your locale settings? Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-13 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Thursday 12 May 2011 21:54:14 Indi wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 03:40:01AM +0200, 刘勇泰 wrote: 2011/5/12 Thanasis [1]thana...@asyr.hopto.org on 05/12/2011 03:43 PM Indi wrote the following: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 02:40:02PM +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote: On 12/5/2011, at 11:57pm, Dale wrote: root@fireball / # locale LANG=en_US.UTF8 LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF8 LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF8 LC_TIME=en_US.UTF8 LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF8 LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF8 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF8 LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF8 LC_NAME=en_US.UTF8 LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF8

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk On Thu, 12 May 2011 16:44:21 -0500, Dale wrote: Your questions don't disprove what me and others have posted. As I have said on the KDE mailing list, KDE made a serious mistake dropping KDE3 before KDE4 was ready. How

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 13 May 2011 03:30:27 Manuel McLure wrote: Just ran into a gotcha with my main server upgrade to openrc/baselayout2 - it appears that the old ifconfig network syntax no longer works. I kept getting the message: Error: either local is duplicate, or netmask is garbage until I

Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer id3v2

2011-05-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: Is there a patch for mplayer (1.0-rc4) that adds id3v2 support? Googling the mailinglist archives, it was said that the previous implementation had vulns and was hence scrapped, but it sucks not having it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-13 Thread Blackdream W
haha,I'm so happy to see Chinese in Gentoo's mailing lists,cause I'm a Chinese,too. 兄弟冒出一句中文,颇觉亲切,虽然不知道对他们而言是否不礼貌? Linux forever! Send from Blackdream's mobile On May 13, 2011 10:03 PM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011 21:54:14 Indi wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2011

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-13 Thread dong l
Glad to see so many people talking about Chinese characters here.I wrote those words just because I see the thread starter's name written in Chinese.Thanks to UTF-8 maybe some i18n fonts in your computer,these characters can be displayed correctly. Ahh,it's interesting that ancestors devloped

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-13 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Friday 13 May 2011 23:33:16 Blackdream W wrote: 兄弟冒出一句中文,颇觉亲切,虽然不知道对他们而言是否不礼貌? Google translates it to: Brothers emerge a word of Chinese, feels warm, although do not know whether rude to them? And yes, I do consider it rude to use a language not everyone on a list understands. English is

Re: [gentoo-user] Virtual Packages

2011-05-13 Thread dong l
I think it is a bit like IoC in OOP programing. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inversion_of_control

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-13 Thread Blackdream W
Funny translation sorry guys Goodnight lists.^_^ Send from Blackdream's mobile On May 13, 2011 11:49 PM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 04:21:41PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 13 May 2011 03:30:27 Manuel McLure wrote: Just ran into a gotcha with my main server upgrade to openrc/baselayout2 - it appears that the old ifconfig network syntax no longer works. I kept getting the message:

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 18:55, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I was curious, what's the results of the openrc update for people that have done theirs? Is it pretty simple and just works or are there issues? I'm mostly interested in x86 and amd64 since that is what I have. Just

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Manuel McLure
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:31 AM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: That error message comes from iproute2, so it looks like you hit this bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366905 In a nutshell we are trying to convert ifconfig syntax to iproute2 syntax, but we do not do it

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-13 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Friday 13 May 2011 23:45:52 dong l wrote: Glad to see so many people talking about Chinese characters here.I wrote those words just because I see the thread starter's name written in Chinese.Thanks to UTF-8 maybe some i18n fonts in your computer,these characters can be displayed correctly.

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-13 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Saturday 14 May 2011 00:04:25 Blackdream W wrote: Funny translation sorry guys Goodnight lists.^_^ Send from Blackdream's mobile On May 13, 2011 11:49 PM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Going back to my last email, I didn't mean it nastily, I just prefer to use a language

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:56:27PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote On Wed, 11 May 2011 20:40:02 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: KDE devs decided to take the risk and make the jump ahead of the curve. Coca Cola went from Coke Classic to New Coke; at least they had the guts to admit that it

[gentoo-user] Turning off WebGL support

2011-05-13 Thread Walter Dnes
Is WebGL an OS feature or a browser feature? I.e. can I block it in Gentoo itself, or is it a browser setting only? The article and FAQ at http://www.contextis.com/resources/blog/webgl/ and http://www.contextis.com/resources/blog/webgl/faq/ are worrisome. I'm not a gamer, so I don't really

Re: [gentoo-user] Turning off WebGL support

2011-05-13 Thread Bill Longman
On 05/13/2011 11:05 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: Is WebGL an OS feature or a browser feature? I.e. can I block it in Is it a dessert topping or a floor wax? Certainly 'tis the latter. (Browser feature, that is. Not floor wax).

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread BRM
From: Daniel da Veiga danieldave...@gmail.com On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 18:55, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I was curious, what's the results of the openrc update for people that have done theirs? Is it pretty simple and just works or are there issues? I'm mostly interested in x86 and

Re: [gentoo-user] Pre OpenRC update question...

2011-05-13 Thread James Wall
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: On 13/05/2011 5:00 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Probably a dumb one, but... I have /home, /usr and /var on separate partitions... If I want to image my system prior to the update 'just in case' something goes south, am I correct

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Mick
On Friday 13 May 2011 14:26:27 Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: On 12/5/2011, at 11:57pm, Dale wrote: root@fireball / # locale LANG=en_US.UTF8 LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF8 LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF8 LC_TIME=en_US.UTF8 LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF8 LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF8 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF8

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Mick
On Thursday 12 May 2011 22:48:04 Stroller wrote: On 12/5/2011, at 8:41pm, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011 18:06:27 Stroller wrote: Could you possibly post the output of `date +%l:%M%P`? In doing so you'd be doing me a favour. $ date +%l:%M%P 8:39 That's the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Mick
On Friday 13 May 2011 18:57:47 Walter Dnes wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:56:27PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote On Wed, 11 May 2011 20:40:02 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: KDE devs decided to take the risk and make the jump ahead of the curve. Coca Cola went from Coke Classic to

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Dale
BRM wrote: My desktop is a few months behind - still gotta get it fixed from a previous failed update. But won't have the time for at least another month. I may end up just rebuilding it if the updates are too troublesome - it may prove faster. Ben I just went through the same thing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 13.05.2011 21:50, schrieb Mick: a selection of apps, rather that a heavy duty integrated DE with semantic searches and what not. I have written my thesis about semantic searches but I am absolut unable to use that feature in KDE. But that and the graphic distortions I have aside is KDE4

[gentoo-user] Re: Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-13 Thread walt
On 05/12/2011 06:54 PM, Indi wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 03:40:01AM +0200, 刘勇泰 wrote: 2011/5/12 Thanasis [1]thana...@asyr.hopto.org on 05/12/2011 03:43 PM Indi wrote the following: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 02:40:02PM +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011

Re: [gentoo-user] Pre OpenRC update question...

2011-05-13 Thread Mick
On Friday 13 May 2011 20:11:01 James Wall wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: On 13/05/2011 5:00 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Probably a dumb one, but... I have /home, /usr and /var on separate partitions... If I want to image my system prior to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread William Hubbs
Hi Mick, On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 08:27:16PM +0100, Mick wrote: Here's mine if you want to compare with my previously sent output: $ cat /etc/env.d/02locale LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 *snip* This is all you need. LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 Or, If you are running a multi user system and do not want to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 13 May 2011 13:57:47 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: But if your new and allegedly improved product can't stand on its own 2 feet and compete against older generation products, and you have to shut down or drop support for the older products for the new one to survive, then it's obvious

[gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-13 Thread Felix Miata
Yesterday I attempted my first Gentoo install (11.0). Thanks to help here, I got through my mirrorselect problem. First boot failed. I managed to miss enabling VIA ATA support, so had no access to /. Second kernel build suceeded, even to basic network working. First activity on first boot was

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-13 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:40:01AM +0200, walt wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:12:30 dong l wrote: 个人经历,baselayout的更新其实都不怎么suffer,呵呵~ Are saying that mutt is displaying Chinese characters in a terminal window? Yes, it works in X (terminator) but so far I haven't got that to

Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer id3v2

2011-05-13 Thread Andrey Moshbear
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 11:21, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: Is there a patch for mplayer (1.0-rc4) that adds id3v2 support? Googling the mailinglist archives, it was said that the previous

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-13 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 03:10:02AM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: Yesterday I attempted my first Gentoo install (11.0). Thanks to help here, I got through my mirrorselect problem. First boot failed. I managed to miss enabling VIA ATA support, so had no access to /. Second kernel build suceeded,

Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer id3v2

2011-05-13 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 04:40:01AM +0200, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 11:21, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: Is there a patch for mplayer (1.0-rc4) that adds id3v2 support?

Re: [gentoo-user] Pre OpenRC update question...

2011-05-13 Thread Andrey Moshbear
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 18:35, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 13 May 2011 20:11:01 James Wall wrote: Another tool which will work well is dd. as an example to back up my laptop before experimenting with new distros, I do dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/backup/jalopy.img bs=2M to back

Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer id3v2

2011-05-13 Thread Andrey Moshbear
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 22:43, Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 04:40:01AM +0200, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 11:21, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-13 Thread Alex Schuster
Indi writes: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 03:10:02AM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: Along the way to successful boot, I attempted two emerges suggested by the handbook (one being Grub Legacy). Both produced ERROR: ... (compile phase)... errors. If you like, post the messages here. Be sure to

Re: [gentoo-user] Pre OpenRC update question...

2011-05-13 Thread James Wall
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 18:35, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 13 May 2011 20:11:01 James Wall wrote: Another tool which will work well is dd. as an example to back up my laptop before experimenting

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-13 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/13 22:35 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: Maybe a stupid question, but have you tried run emerge --sync .bash_history tells me I did this twice prior to your response... and emerge -vauND world yet since installing? ...but not this. Doing so now produces something that is not obvious

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-13 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/14 05:19 (GMT+0200) Alex Schuster composed: Indi writes: Felix Miata wrote: Along the way to successful boot, I attempted two emerges suggested by the handbook (one being Grub Legacy). Both produced ERROR: ... (compile phase)... errors. If you like, post the messages

[gentoo-user] you are stopping a boot service

2011-05-13 Thread Hartmut Figge
Greetings, i am always booting to a console and switch later to X using startx. Now i have noticed a message appearing after typing the password: i5 login: Password: Last login: Sat May 14 06:58:55 CEST 2011 on tty1 * WARNING: you are stopping a boot service Same thing happens after