Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-07 Thread William Kenworthy
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 23:01 -0500, Dale wrote: Dale wrote: Dale wrote: Thoughts? Anyone think of anything that could cause this? Dale :-) :-) Hi Dale, I have not been following the thread, but have you tried starting the problem apps, konsole etc from a basic xterm with strace?

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-07 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
2011/7/6 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: Dale, random hard-lockups are only due to hardware or kerne, it can't be otherwisel (drivers count as part of kernel). The fact that compilation doesn't lock your system only means that the thing (whatever it is) is not

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-07 Thread Dale
William Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 23:01 -0500, Dale wrote: Dale wrote: Dale wrote: Thoughts? Anyone think of anything that could cause this? Dale :-) :-) Hi Dale, I have not been following the thread, but have you tried starting the problem

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-07 Thread Dale
Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: 2011/7/6 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com: Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: Dale, random hard-lockups are only due to hardware or kerne, it can't be otherwisel (drivers count as part of kernel). The fact that compilation doesn't lock your system only means

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?

2011-07-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 07 July 2011 10:12:43 微菜 did opine thusly: Devs can do what ever they think are right. Don't argue with them unless you pay them. Want gtk2 support? Put your ebuild in your personal overlay. Gentoo users have developed a certain expectation over the years, whereby devs will take

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: output of emerge -v emacs-vcs (not the masking something else)

2011-07-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 06 July 2011 22:54:56 Harry Putnam did opine thusly: walt w41...@gmail.com writes: On 07/03/2011 03:07 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: I'm getting output from emerge -v emacs-vcs like this: * ERROR: app-editors/emacs-vcs-24.0.-r1 failed (unpack phase): * bzr.eclass: can't

Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce4 shutdown issues

2011-07-07 Thread jdm
Thanks Rudmer, This works well. Thanks for your help. I was under the impression that these rules were supplied but obviously not. Must have got them from somewhere else before but can't remember where. Many thanks Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on O2 -Original Message- From:

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-07 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: You have a good point but there is a problem. Some of the kernels I tried ran on this machine with uptimes of several weeks and not one lock up. It could be some upgrade that affected this but who knows what that was since I have updated a lot. As for nvidia, I tried both

[gentoo-user] Re: Managing multiple Gentoo systems

2011-07-07 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 06/07/11, Grant wrote: After a frustrating experience with a Linksys WRT54GL, I've decided to stick with Gentoo routers.  This increases the number of Gentoo systems I'm responsible for and they're nearing double-digits.  What can be done to make the management of multiple Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)

2011-07-07 Thread Stroller
On 6 July 2011, at 19:54, Grant wrote: ... I wonder if I'll be able to decode 1080p in software on a single core now without losing A/V sync. I kinda doubt it. I've been on an Athlon X2 3.1Ghz. Note that some 1080p videos are harder to decode than others. The birds scene from the BBC's

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Wireless KVM, but just V?

2011-07-07 Thread Stroller
I haven't used them, but I'm somewhat sceptical of Avocent as a brand. Their network KVMs (all that I've seen advertised, I think) use proprietary viewer software. I don't think they even allow you to view using a web-based viewer applet (as do many other network KVMs), and I think they may

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?

2011-07-07 Thread Stroller
On 7 July 2011, at 08:30, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 07 July 2011 10:12:43 微菜 did opine thusly: Devs can do what ever they think are right. Don't argue with them unless you pay them. Want gtk2 support? Put your ebuild in your personal overlay. Gentoo users have developed a certain

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP A little more info.  After my last message, I opened Firefox.  It locked up.  That runs as a regular user of course.  So, I wanted to test a theory.  I logged into Fluxbox after my reboot.  I opened Firefox and it locked up.

[gentoo-user] Script to install Citrix XenServer guest addons for Gentoo guest VMs

2011-07-07 Thread Pandu Poluan
If you're planning on running Gentoo guest VMs on top of Citrix XenServer, you'll want to install the xs-tools. I've made a script that automates the procedure, while at the same time install an OpenRC-compatible initscript (instead of the RHEL/CentOS initscript contained in the xs-tools RPM

[gentoo-user] Booting from SoftwareRaid 10 with metadata 1.0 possible?

2011-07-07 Thread Jens Reinemuth
Hi everybody, i'm totally stuck with an installation of a server using SoftwareRAIDs (10) with an adaptec aic79xx Controller... I thought that perhaps the drivers must be corrupted, but i found some (older) howtos that described you should be using metadata=0.9.0 at least on the boot and root

Re: [gentoo-user] Booting from SoftwareRaid 10 with metadata 1.0 possible?

2011-07-07 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 07.07.2011 16:18, schrieb Jens Reinemuth: Hi everybody, i'm totally stuck with an installation of a server using SoftwareRAIDs (10) with an adaptec aic79xx Controller... I thought that perhaps the drivers must be corrupted, but i found some (older) howtos that described you should

Re: [gentoo-user] Booting from SoftwareRaid 10 with metadata 1.0 possible?

2011-07-07 Thread Jens Reinemuth
Am Donnerstag, 7. Juli 2011, 16:40:47 schrieb Florian Philipp: You will still need metadata=0.9.0 if you want to partition the raid itself and then boot from it (e.g. create /boot and root on the md device). Please also take a look at the thread in [2]. [1]

Re: [gentoo-user] Booting from SoftwareRaid 10 with metadata 1.0 possible?

2011-07-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Jens Reinemuth j...@reinemuth.info wrote: Hi everybody, i'm totally stuck with an installation of a server using SoftwareRAIDs (10) with an adaptec aic79xx Controller... I thought that perhaps the drivers must be corrupted, but i found some (older) howtos

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Managing multiple Gentoo systems

2011-07-07 Thread Grant
After a frustrating experience with a Linksys WRT54GL, I've decided to stick with Gentoo routers.  This increases the number of Gentoo systems I'm responsible for and they're nearing double-digits.  What can be done to make the management of multiple Gentoo systems easier? I think

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Wireless KVM, but just V?

2011-07-07 Thread Grant
I haven't used them, but I'm somewhat sceptical of Avocent as a brand. Their network KVMs (all that I've seen advertised, I think) use proprietary viewer software. I don't think they even allow you to view using a web-based viewer applet (as do many other network KVMs), and I think they may

Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce4 shutdown issues

2011-07-07 Thread pk
On 2011-07-06 17:37, john wrote: Any suggestions other than converting to e16? (which is becoming tempting). This seems to happen every upgrade of xfce4/polkit/dbus. polkit seems to me just another HAL... Try: http://wiki.xfce.org/tips Of course you still need to put:

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?

2011-07-07 Thread pk
On 2011-07-07 09:30, Alan McKinnon wrote: Gentoo users have developed a certain expectation over the years, whereby devs will take user needs seriously and go to extra-ordinary lengths to support everything under the sun. That's what Gentoo does. That's how the system by and large works,

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?

2011-07-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:44 AM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2011-07-07 09:30, Alan McKinnon wrote: Gentoo users have developed a certain expectation over the years, whereby devs will take user needs seriously and go to extra-ordinary lengths to support everything under the sun. That's

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?

2011-07-07 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 07/06/11 15:37, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 06 July 2011 19:23:51 pk did opine thusly: On 2011-07-06 18:35, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: And what is happening to the developers lately? Some of them have become hostile and arrogant against their own users. I noted the same from the same

[gentoo-user] Virt-manager

2011-07-07 Thread john
I am trying to start virt-manager but when I start the daemon /etc/init.d/libvirtd i get * Starting libvirtd ... /usr/sbin/libvirtd: error: Unable to initialize network sockets. Check /var/log/messages or run without --daemon for more info. * start-stop-daemon: failed to start

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple Gentoo systems

2011-07-07 Thread kashani
On 7/2/2011 3:14 PM, Grant wrote: After a frustrating experience with a Linksys WRT54GL, I've decided to stick with Gentoo routers. This increases the number of Gentoo systems I'm responsible for and they're nearing double-digits. What can be done to make the management of multiple Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Virt-manager

2011-07-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 7 at 19:15 (+0100), john said: I am trying to start virt-manager but when I start the daemon /etc/init.d/libvirtd i get * Starting libvirtd ... /usr/sbin/libvirtd: error: Unable to initialize network sockets. Check /var/log/messages or run without --daemon for more

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?

2011-07-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 07 July 2011 13:42:24 Michael Orlitzky did opine thusly: Holy shit, that attitude from Samuli sucks big balls big time. He's always come across to me as an OK dev, never seen him pull THAT stunt before. For what it's worth, I was expecting much worse. In his defense,

Re: [gentoo-user] Virt-manager

2011-07-07 Thread john
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:24:48 -0400 Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote: On Thursday, July 7 at 19:15 (+0100), john said: I am trying to start virt-manager but when I start the daemon /etc/init.d/libvirtd i get * Starting libvirtd ... /usr/sbin/libvirtd: error:

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?

2011-07-07 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 07/07/11 15:36, Alan McKinnon wrote: And what about gnome? Does that not impose a fantastic testing burden, alongside which gnome-mplayer is small in comparison? Yes, but the value of one's time isn't relative. If you'll allow me to make up the numbers, just because it takes a month of

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple Gentoo systems

2011-07-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 07 July 2011 11:23:15 kashani did opine thusly: On 7/2/2011 3:14 PM, Grant wrote: After a frustrating experience with a Linksys WRT54GL, I've decided to stick with Gentoo routers. This increases the number of Gentoo systems I'm responsible for and they're nearing

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?

2011-07-07 Thread Dale
Michael Orlitzky wrote: recompiling all day is not. After the past several days, I can confirm this 100%. I'm on about my third emerge -e world now. Waiting on OOo to finish. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?

2011-07-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 07 July 2011 21:47:25 Dale wrote: Waiting on OOo to finish. Have you not switched to LibreOffice then? -- Rgds Peter

[gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?

2011-07-07 Thread Dale
As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system. I'm in the process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not holding my breath it will change anything. So, I'm wanting to try a unstable version of both gcc and glibc. This is the list available: root@fireball / # equery list -p

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple Gentoo systems

2011-07-07 Thread kashani
On 7/7/2011 1:37 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 07 July 2011 11:23:15 kashani did opine thusly: On 7/2/2011 3:14 PM, Grant wrote: After a frustrating experience with a Linksys WRT54GL, I've decided to stick with Gentoo routers. This increases the number of Gentoo systems I'm responsible

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?

2011-07-07 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 07 July 2011 21:47:25 Dale wrote: Waiting on OOo to finish. Have you not switched to LibreOffice then? I prefer OOo. I just forgot to comment it out of my world file before my emerge -e world this time. Sort of got a lot on my brain right

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?

2011-07-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 07 July 2011 16:01:27 Dale did opine thusly: As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system. I'm in the process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not holding my breath it will change anything. So, I'm wanting to try a unstable version of both gcc and glibc. This

[gentoo-user] Re: Need help : Compiling xe-guest-utilities (xenstore) from Source

2011-07-07 Thread walt
On 07/04/2011 07:25 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: Okay, I got the .rpm for Citrix's xe-guest-utilities from this thread: http://forums.citrix.com/message.jspa?messageID=1468339 Granted, it's slightly older than the latest version, but that's not my main problem. The problem is: How do I run a

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple Gentoo systems

2011-07-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 07 July 2011 14:01:55 kashani did opine thusly: On 7/7/2011 1:37 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 07 July 2011 11:23:15 kashani did opine thusly: On 7/2/2011 3:14 PM, Grant wrote: After a frustrating experience with a Linksys WRT54GL, I've decided to stick with Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Virt-manager

2011-07-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 7 at 20:46 (+0100), john said: Well, I see several errors, you may want to start with the first one and work your way down. iptables is running, bridging and tun have been loaded as modules iproute2 has now been installed but makes no odds. Not sure about brctl as I can't

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?

2011-07-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system.  I'm in the process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not holding my breath it will change anything.  So, I'm wanting to try a unstable version of both gcc and

[gentoo-user] Re: KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-07 Thread walt
On 07/06/2011 01:11 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: So I switched to - nouveau and now I have endless shit with crashes. But I can tolerate that and not whinge. Just today I tried the nouveau driver again after almost a year, and found no change. The test was on my elderly machine with an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 07 July 2011 14:59:11 walt did opine thusly: On 07/06/2011 01:11 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: So I switched to - nouveau and now I have endless shit with crashes. But I can tolerate that and not whinge. Just today I tried the nouveau driver again after almost a year, and found

[gentoo-user] Re: KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-07 Thread walt
On 07/05/2011 10:38 PM, Dale wrote: My current plan, finish this new install. Test the ram and hope it is OK. I can feel your pain :( This may not help, but I thought I'd mention it just because nothing else has helped so far. I started having random keyboard issues right after the most

Re: [gentoo-user] Virt-manager

2011-07-07 Thread john
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:26:18 -0400 Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote: On Thursday, July 7 at 20:46 (+0100), john said: Well, I see several errors, you may want to start with the first one and work your way down. iptables is running, bridging and tun have been loaded as

[gentoo-user] DNS error with ssh

2011-07-07 Thread Grant
I'm not able to ssh to any domain, although IPs work. I get: $ ssh example.com ssh: Could not resolve hostname example.com: Name or service not known I can ping domains no problem, and web browsing works. I've tried rebooting and re-emerging openssh. I am connected to an unfamiliar wireless

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?

2011-07-07 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system. I'm in the process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not holding my breath it will change anything. So, I'm wanting to try a unstable

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-07 Thread Robin Atwood
On Thursday 07 Jul 2011, Dale wrote: Well, I'm going to send this then open Konsole. See if it locks up again. There was a fairly well documented problem, on the Gentoo fora at least, with the nvidia drivers, Xorg-server-1.10, KDE 4.6 and Konsole. I had it on several machines that locked up

[gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?

2011-07-07 Thread walt
On 07/07/2011 05:07 AM, Stroller wrote: Ubuntu users complain sometimes about similar things (such as Unity), about their bug reports being marked as WONTFIX, but their devs seem generally politer and more ready to explain their reasons than Gentoo devs. IIUC the ubuntu devs are employees of

Re: [gentoo-user] DNS error with ssh

2011-07-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not able to ssh to any domain, although IPs work.  I get: $ ssh example.com ssh: Could not resolve hostname example.com: Name or service not known I can ping domains no problem, and web browsing works.  I've tried

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?

2011-07-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 15:50:31 -0700, walt wrote: IIUC the ubuntu devs are employees of Canonical, or at least the lead devs are. I dunno if ubuntu includes volunteer devs or not. It does, they're called Debian devs :P -- Neil Bothwick A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.

[gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?

2011-07-07 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 07/07/2011 10:30 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 07 July 2011 10:12:43 微菜 did opine thusly: Devs can do what ever they think are right. Don't argue with them unless you pay them. Want gtk2 support? Put your ebuild in your personal overlay. Gentoo users have developed a certain

Re: [gentoo-user] DNS error with ssh

2011-07-07 Thread Adam Carter
It does not :) Agreed. Both ping hostname and ssh hostname should either both work or both fail - assuming of course you are trying to ping the same host that you're trying to ssh to. You could try using an alternate DNS server, like google public ones 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4. DHCP will have

Re: [gentoo-user] DNS error with ssh

2011-07-07 Thread Grant
I'm not able to ssh to any domain, although IPs work.  I get: $ ssh example.com ssh: Could not resolve hostname example.com: Name or service not known I can ping domains no problem, and web browsing works.  I've tried rebooting and re-emerging openssh.  I am connected to an unfamiliar

Re: [gentoo-user] Virt-manager

2011-07-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 7 at 23:30 (+0100), john said: On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:26:18 -0400 Have cleared up error messages using config as suggested. I still get the issue when starting /etc/init.d/libvirtd * Starting libvirtd ... /usr/sbin/libvirtd: error: Unable to initialize network

Re: [gentoo-user] DNS error with ssh

2011-07-07 Thread Adam Carter
host example.com I'm not sure which package that is. Its in bind-tools, which also has nslookup.

Re: [gentoo-user] DNS error with ssh

2011-07-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 7 at 17:43 (-0700), Grant said: Yeah I don't get it. Check this out: $ ping google.com PING google.com (74.125.224.84) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 74.125.224.84: icmp_req=1 ttl=55 time=97.1 ms 64 bytes from 74.125.224.84: icmp_req=2 ttl=55 time=97.1 ms 64

Re: [gentoo-user] DNS error with ssh

2011-07-07 Thread Alex Schuster
Grant writes: I'm not able to ssh to any domain, although IPs work. I get: $ ssh example.com ssh: Could not resolve hostname example.com: Name or service not known I can ping domains no problem, and web browsing works. I've tried rebooting and re-emerging openssh. I am connected to an

Re: [gentoo-user] DNS error with ssh

2011-07-07 Thread Adam Carter
I'd compare the output of strace ping host and strace ssh host. Anything in nsswitch.conf? It seems to be used by ssh, but not by the host command. Which is new to me. IIRC nslookup also only uses DNS servers, not the nsswitch.conf lookup option list. Since the ns probably stands for name

[gentoo-user] Lexmark X5650 working in Gentoo Linux?

2011-07-07 Thread Carlos Sura
Hello, I've been looking how to get working this printer in my gentoo-b0x, searched in gentoo wiki, but those ebuilds and links are not updated, they are a little bit old and none of that worked for me. I was thinking if there was any chance if anyone of you have this printer installed to tell

Re: [gentoo-user] Lexmark X5650 working in Gentoo Linux?

2011-07-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 7 at 21:18 (-0600), Carlos Sura said: I was thinking if there was any chance if anyone of you have this printer installed to tell me how to get it work for me... Or a howto, tutorial, manual? According to openprinting.org, it's a paperweight.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?

2011-07-07 Thread 微菜
On 2011年07月08日 04:01, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 07/07/11 15:36, Alan McKinnon wrote: And what about gnome? Does that not impose a fantastic testing burden, alongside which gnome-mplayer is small in comparison? Yes, but the value of one's time isn't relative. If you'll allow me to make up

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-07 Thread Dale
walt wrote: On 07/05/2011 10:38 PM, Dale wrote: My current plan, finish this new install. Test the ram and hope it is OK. I can feel your pain :( This may not help, but I thought I'd mention it just because nothing else has helped so far. I started having random keyboard issues

Re: [gentoo-user] Lexmark X5650 working in Gentoo Linux?

2011-07-07 Thread Dale
Carlos Sura wrote: Hello, I've been looking how to get working this printer in my gentoo-b0x, searched in gentoo wiki, but those ebuilds and links are not updated, they are a little bit old and none of that worked for me. I was thinking if there was any chance if anyone of you have this