Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread James Broadhead
On 26 September 2011 03:19, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: Or skip the net config/init scripts stuff and just use something like wicd. Getting a manager to write your wpa_supplicant.conf for you (in effect), has been the right way of configuring wifi for the average user for

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread Spidey / Claudio
Complementing James comment, when I messed with Gentoo on a notebook I also tried the confusing and troublesome way: configuring wi-fi to connect at boot time. It was REALLY a challenge, maintaining a realistic configuration file, which would let you boot with network up equally while home and

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread Fernando Freire
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Spidey / Claudio spide...@gmail.comwrote: Complementing James comment, when I messed with Gentoo on a notebook I also tried the confusing and troublesome way: configuring wi-fi to connect at boot time. It was REALLY a challenge, maintaining a realistic

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread Mick
On 26 September 2011 15:12, Spidey / Claudio spide...@gmail.com wrote: Complementing James comment, when I messed with Gentoo on a notebook I also tried the confusing and troublesome way: configuring wi-fi to connect at boot time. It was REALLY a challenge, maintaining a realistic

[gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Mick
I don't know if you have seen this. Given that we're moving into UEFI boot what are the workarounds to compensate for Microsoft's efforts to exclude other operating systems from available hardware? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/26/uefi_linux_lock_out_row_latest/ -- Regards, Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread James Broadhead
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Spidey / Claudio spide...@gmail.com Between the Gentoo Handbook and Google (... )I didn't even know there was a better way of managing wireless networks! This is exactly the problem. I'm working on rewriting the Handbook's page on setting up wifi, but I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On Mon 26 Sep 2011 08:31:10 PM IST, Mick wrote: I don't know if you have seen this. Given that we're moving into UEFI boot what are the workarounds to compensate for Microsoft's efforts to exclude other operating systems from available hardware?

[gentoo-user] FreeType unpatented auto-hinter?

2011-09-26 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
Somebody on twitter told me that Ubuntu uses a special patch for freetype that improves font rendering manifolds. So I rebuilt freetype with these useflags: +auto-hinter +bindist What is the difference between this unpatented auto hinter and the TrueType BC interpreter? -- Nilesh Govindarajan

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan cont...@nileshgr.com wrote: On Mon 26 Sep 2011 08:31:10 PM IST, Mick wrote: I don't know if you have seen this.  Given that we're moving into UEFI boot what are the workarounds to compensate for Microsoft's efforts to exclude other operating

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread James Broadhead
On 26 September 2011 16:01, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if you have seen this.  Given that we're moving into UEFI boot what are the workarounds to compensate for Microsoft's efforts to exclude other operating systems from available hardware? My opinion is that signed

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On Mon 26 Sep 2011 08:51:17 PM IST, James Broadhead wrote: On 26 September 2011 16:01, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if you have seen this. Given that we're moving into UEFI boot what are the workarounds to compensate for Microsoft's efforts to exclude other operating

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread James Broadhead
On 26 September 2011 16:26, Nilesh Govindarajan cont...@nileshgr.com wrote: And you really need not worry about it, some geek (Torvalds?) will surely find out a way. Oh, I don't doubt that I'll be able to boot Linux, I just think that we're going to enter another era where setting up a

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Dale
Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On Mon 26 Sep 2011 08:51:17 PM IST, James Broadhead wrote: On 26 September 2011 16:01, Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if you have seen this. Given that we're moving into UEFI boot what are the workarounds to compensate for Microsoft's efforts to

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On Mon 26 Sep 2011 08:51:17 PM IST, James Broadhead wrote: On 26 September 2011 16:01, Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com  wrote: I don't know if you have seen this.  Given that we're moving into UEFI

Re: [gentoo-user] FreeType unpatented auto-hinter?

2011-09-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan cont...@nileshgr.com wrote: Somebody on twitter told me that Ubuntu uses a special patch for freetype that improves font rendering manifolds. So I rebuilt freetype with these useflags: +auto-hinter +bindist What is the difference between

Re: [gentoo-user] FreeType unpatented auto-hinter?

2011-09-26 Thread pk
On 2011-09-26 17:13, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: What is the difference between this unpatented auto hinter and the TrueType BC interpreter? As far as I know, the truetype byte code interpreter patent expired about 2 years ago... See:

Re: [gentoo-user] FreeType unpatented auto-hinter?

2011-09-26 Thread pk
On 2011-09-26 17:13, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: What is the difference between this unpatented auto hinter and the TrueType BC interpreter? Here's some more info: http://www.freetype.org/patents.html Best regards Peter K

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Indi
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:56:20 +0530 Nilesh Govindarajan cont...@nileshgr.com wrote: On Mon 26 Sep 2011 08:51:17 PM IST, James Broadhead wrote: On 26 September 2011 16:01, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if you have seen this. Given that we're moving into UEFI boot what

[gentoo-user] Kernel compiles ... monitoring

2011-09-26 Thread Harry
How can one tell how far along a kernel compile is? I can see the modules being built in /var/log/genkernel.log (Aside: Please, no hysteria about using genkernel) But I'd like to know of some way to guesstimate how much of the process is completed. Is there a list the compile has generated

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:56:20 +0530 Nilesh Govindarajan cont...@nileshgr.com wrote: As this is being touted a win8 feature (with win8 set for release sometime in 2012), I predict this will be defeated before the first

Re: [gentoo-user] FreeType unpatented auto-hinter?

2011-09-26 Thread James Broadhead
On 26 September 2011 16:49, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: ...but don't take my word for it... If you really need to know for sure - contact a lawyer[1]. [1] IANAL :-) If you were, would you give your opinion freely on the internet? `s/would/could`? Since our system is set up so that one can

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: Well, since I don't have or use M$'s junk, I guess I am OK then? I just need to make sure any mobo I buy in the future either doesn't have this or can be disabled? Heck, if you

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox cookie manager

2011-09-26 Thread Harry
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: I believe it uses the browser's setting as default. It's probably best to block all cookies by default in Firefox's settings, that way only the ones you explicitly allow in the Cookie Monster add-on will be accepted. Anyone know how that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox cookie manager

2011-09-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Harry hputn...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: I believe it uses the browser's setting as default. It's probably best to block all cookies by default in Firefox's settings, that way only the ones you explicitly allow in

Re: [gentoo-user] FreeType unpatented auto-hinter?

2011-09-26 Thread pk
On 2011-09-26 18:13, James Broadhead wrote: If you were, would you give your opinion freely on the internet? `s/would/could`? Well, you never know... ;-) Since our system is set up so that one can spend significant amounts of money just to find out whether something is or is not a

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Jonas de Buhr
between a fully-signed system (Windows 9 / OS XI or so) or a cracked boot, with little in the way of switching between the two, at least initially I know which one I'd pick if it came down to it :) And you really need not worry about it, some geek (Torvalds?) will surely find out a way.

[gentoo-user] Slightly OT but interesting nonetheless...

2011-09-26 Thread pk
Hi, Happened upon this interview with Linus Torvalds that some of you might find interesting (if you haven't seen it already): http://h30565.www3.hp.com/t5/Feature-Articles/Linus-Torvalds-s-Lessons-on-Software-Development-Management/ba-p/440 Best regards Peter K

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel compiles ... monitoring

2011-09-26 Thread Harry
Harry hputnam3 at gmail.com writes: How can one tell how far along a kernel compile is? I can see the modules being built in /var/log/genkernel.log (Aside: Please, no hysteria about using genkernel) But I'd like to know of some way to guesstimate how much of the process is

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote: between a fully-signed system (Windows 9 / OS XI or so) or a cracked boot, with little in the way of switching between the two, at least initially I know which one I'd pick if it came down to it :) And you really

Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT but interesting nonetheless...

2011-09-26 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:37 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: Hi, Happened upon this interview with Linus Torvalds that some of you might find interesting (if you haven't seen it already):

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Mick
On Monday 26 Sep 2011 20:29:14 Jonas de Buhr wrote: between a fully-signed system (Windows 9 / OS XI or so) or a cracked boot, with little in the way of switching between the two, at least initially I know which one I'd pick if it came down to it :) And you really need not worry

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 26 Sep 2011 20:29:14 Jonas de Buhr wrote: between a fully-signed system (Windows 9 / OS XI or so) or a cracked boot, with little in the way of switching between the two, at least initially I know which one

[gentoo-user] {OT} Development framework with access restriction?

2011-09-26 Thread Grant
I'd like to hire a freelancer to work on my website. I don't want to provide access to all of my code, but instead only the particular file or files being worked on. Does anyone know of a development framework that would help facilitate that sort of thing? Would no shell access along with

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT but interesting nonetheless...

2011-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-09-26, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:37 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: Hi, Happened upon this interview with Linus Torvalds that some of you might find interesting (if you haven't seen it already):

Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT but interesting nonetheless...

2011-09-26 Thread James Broadhead
On 26 September 2011 20:44, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I just saw that. Admittedly, when I saw this section: --begin-section-- I'll add at this point that this isn't just a programmer problem. I've seen entire companies get locked into the idea that “perfecting” the program

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Jonas de Buhr
yes, there will most likely be a technical way to circumvent it. the problem is that involved companies might try (and likely succeed) to make that illegal. the reasoning will be this: it is assumed that you only make that modification to run pirated copies of commercial operating systems.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread James Broadhead
On 26 September 2011 20:29, Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote: between a fully-signed system (Windows 9 / OS XI or so) or a cracked boot, with little in the way of switching between the two, at least initially And you really need not worry about it, some geek (Torvalds?) will surely

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Jonas de Buhr
I am assuming that unlike the old days when I used to boot Linux on PCs using a floppy with SmartBootManager, now we'll need to generate some key/hash for our freshly compiled kernel, then add it to the BIOS firmware and flash the BIOS with it before we are able to boot into it? Is it more

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Jonas de Buhr
On 26 September 2011 20:29, Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote: between a fully-signed system (Windows 9 / OS XI or so) or a cracked boot, with little in the way of switching between the two, at least initially And you really need not worry about it, some geek (Torvalds?) will surely

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel compiles ... monitoring

2011-09-26 Thread Jonas de Buhr
hi harry! don't take my word for it, but i don't think there is an easy solution to this :) cmake creates makefiles which show the percentage completed in a build step. maybe you can look into how it does that and apply that to the kernel? /jonas Harry hputnam3 at gmail.com writes: How can

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 26.09.2011 21:56, schrieb Michael Mol: Is it more complicated than that? Just a hunch, but I think the BIOS will probably be signed. Perhaps in replacement of the existing checksum functionality. I have something like that on my Motorola Milestone Android Phone. It is not possible to

Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT but interesting nonetheless...

2011-09-26 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:37 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: Hi, Happened upon this interview with Linus Torvalds that some of you might find interesting (if you haven't seen it already):

Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT but interesting nonetheless...

2011-09-26 Thread Jonas de Buhr
The only problem with that attitude is that it eventually leads you to the same position that Microsoft is in with Windows -- where too many years of refusing to drop backwards compatibility were completely holding them back. i thought of that too. as with many other things, the trick is to find

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Development framework with access restriction?

2011-09-26 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 09/26/11 16:01, Grant wrote: I'd like to hire a freelancer to work on my website. I don't want to provide access to all of my code, but instead only the particular file or files being worked on. Does anyone know of a development framework that would help facilitate that sort of thing?

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel compiles ... monitoring

2011-09-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Harry hputn...@gmail.com wrote: How can one tell how far along a kernel compile is?  I can see the modules being built in /var/log/genkernel.log   (Aside: Please, no hysteria about using genkernel) But I'd like to know of some way to guesstimate how much of

Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT but interesting nonetheless...

2011-09-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 23:06:36 +0200 Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote: The only problem with that attitude is that it eventually leads you to the same position that Microsoft is in with Windows -- where too many years of refusing to drop backwards compatibility were completely holding

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Mick
On Monday 26 Sep 2011 21:26:03 Jonas de Buhr wrote: I am assuming that unlike the old days when I used to boot Linux on PCs using a floppy with SmartBootManager, now we'll need to generate some key/hash for our freshly compiled kernel, then add it to the BIOS firmware and flash the BIOS with

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread Mick
On Monday 26 Sep 2011 16:03:10 James Broadhead wrote: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Spidey / Claudio spide...@gmail.com Between the Gentoo Handbook and Google (... )I didn't even know there was a better way of managing wireless networks! This is exactly the problem. I'm working on

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 26 Sep 2011 16:03:10 James Broadhead wrote: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Spidey / Claudio spide...@gmail.com Between the Gentoo Handbook and Google (... )I didn't even know there was a better way of

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Jonas de Buhr
I used to build and blueprint my own engines (cars and motorbikes). Then gradually cars became electronic appliances, locked down to the extent where engine modifications became difficult and expensive to implement. I fear that PCs and before that laptops may be heading the same way. :-( this

Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT but interesting nonetheless...

2011-09-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 26 September 2011 22:45:20 Alan McKinnon wrote: It's unrealistic to support everything you ever did forever like MS tried to do (IE6 is *still* hanging around somehow...) Tell me about it! IE6 is the nastiest pain in the backside of any webmaster. I keep having to abandon pretty

Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT but interesting nonetheless...

2011-09-26 Thread Dale
pk wrote: Hi, Happened upon this interview with Linus Torvalds that some of you might find interesting (if you haven't seen it already): http://h30565.www3.hp.com/t5/Feature-Articles/Linus-Torvalds-s-Lessons-on-Software-Development-Management/ba-p/440 Best regards Peter K Has anyone seen

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 11:15 -0500, Dale wrote: So buy a mobo without it or that can disable it. Got it. It'll be a good while before I buy a new mobo tho. I'm sure they will have a nice fix by then but this is something I need to remember just in case. ;-) Ok, I'll bite... It depends

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:46:21 -0400 Albert W. Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote: On the server side, I don't think there is any major server manufacturer dumb enough to sell a system not capable of running Linux. How very true. If a manufacturer tried that, they would lose the entire ISP

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Dale
Albert W. Hopkins wrote: On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 11:15 -0500, Dale wrote: So buy a mobo without it or that can disable it. Got it. It'll be a good while before I buy a new mobo tho. I'm sure they will have a nice fix by then but this is something I need to remember just in case. ;-) Ok, I'll

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel compiles ... monitoring

2011-09-26 Thread Harry
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Harry hputn...@gmail.com wrote: How can one tell how far along a kernel compile is?  I can see the modules being built in /var/log/genkernel.log   (Aside: Please, no hysteria about using genkernel) But I'd

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel compiles ... monitoring

2011-09-26 Thread Brennan Shacklett
Is this pretty normal? I would say no. I have a p3 system with 512 MB of ram that can make a .config in less than a minute... and the kernel takes about an hour.

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 27, 2011 5:11 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: [-- snip --] Speaking as someone experienced in running Gentoo but certainly not a power user - I don't write scripts or program at all - I gotta say I don't like that way this is all working on my system so far. TO BE CLEAR,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel compiles ... monitoring

2011-09-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:04:24 -0500 Harry hputn...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Harry hputn...@gmail.com wrote: How can one tell how far along a kernel compile is?  I can see the modules being built in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT but interesting nonetheless...

2011-09-26 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 09/26/11 16:13, Grant Edwards wrote: That's hilarious. The Linux developers are _constantly_ changing APIs in ways that break existing device driver code. There are repeatedly wholesale re-designs of some APIs that happen between minor versions of a supposedly stable kernel. We

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel compiles ... monitoring

2011-09-26 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 09/26/11 19:04, Harry wrote: Sounds like there is no real way unless as you say. I've been wrestling with kernel build after kernel build trying to get a new install booted. Many failures led me to finally resorting to genkernel... but you may know already that is a full day of compile

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:08:05 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Sep 27, 2011 5:11 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: [-- snip --] Speaking as someone experienced in running Gentoo but certainly not a power user - I don't write scripts or program at all - I gotta

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel compiles ... monitoring

2011-09-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Harry hputn...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like there is no real way unless as you say.  I've been wrestling with kernel build after kernel build trying to get a new install booted.  Many failures led me to finally resorting to genkernel... but you may know already

[gentoo-user] Re: FreeType unpatented auto-hinter?

2011-09-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/26/2011 06:13 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: Somebody on twitter told me that Ubuntu uses a special patch for freetype that improves font rendering manifolds. So I rebuilt freetype with these useflags: +auto-hinter +bindist When you emerge freetype, it tells you at the end that the

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel compiles ... monitoring

2011-09-26 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: What do your basics performance tools like top and friends say? See what swap usage looks like outside the chroot while the compile is running - is it thrashing? What speed are you getting for the hard disk from hdparm -t -T? Top shows CC taking

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:08:05 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Sep 27, 2011 5:11 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: [-- snip --] Speaking as someone experienced in running Gentoo but

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel compiles ... monitoring

2011-09-26 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: What do your basics performance tools like top and friends say? See what swap usage looks like outside the chroot while the compile is running - is it thrashing? What speed

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:08:05 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Sep 27, 2011 5:11 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel compiles ... monitoring

2011-09-26 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 27, 2011 8:47 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: What do your basics performance tools like top and friends say? See what swap usage looks like outside the chroot while the compile is running - is it thrashing? What speed are

[gentoo-user] Nepomuk is eating my disk space

2011-09-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, My /home partition is 15GB, and the other day KDE warned me it was down to 1% free. I found that .kde4/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend/soprano- virtuoso.db was occupying 12GB, so I deleted it and rebooted. Today it's already 3GB after only a few days. B.g.o

Re: [gentoo-user] Nepomuk is eating my disk space

2011-09-26 Thread Nils Larsson
tisdagen den 27 september 2011 04:18:56 skrev Peter Humphrey: Hello list, My /home partition is 15GB, and the other day KDE warned me it was down to 1% free. I found that .kde4/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend/soprano- virtuoso.db was occupying 12GB, so I deleted it

[gentoo-user] duplicate email messages from fail2ban

2011-09-26 Thread covici
I have fail2ban set up and it works quite well, except for the fact that whenever it sends me an Email, it always sends two copies. Every night when the logs rotate, it does this twice, once when t stops and once when it restarts, and when it bans an ip it also sends two emails saying so. any

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread covici
James Broadhead jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 September 2011 03:19, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: Or skip the net config/init scripts stuff and just use something like wicd. Getting a manager to write your wpa_supplicant.conf for you (in effect), has been the

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 27, 2011 9:51 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: James Broadhead jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 September 2011 03:19, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: Or skip the net config/init scripts stuff and just use something like wicd. Getting a manager to write

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 27, 2011 9:57 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Sep 27, 2011 9:51 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: James Broadhead jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 September 2011 03:19, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: Or skip the net config/init scripts

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel compiles ... monitoring

2011-09-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Sep 27, 2011 8:47 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: What do your basics performance tools like top and friends say? See what swap usage looks like outside the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: google search results (was: Modifying LiveCDs)

2011-09-26 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 09:58:03PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote It seems like it. Accessing www.google.com in my country always gets me redirected to www.google.co.id. Unless I login first. Use http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en I do that to avoid being redirected to http://www.google.ca/ --

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't seriously considered wicd because I don't understand what it is, how it links into everything else on the system. At its most basic, it lists your network interfaces and you can configure or connect with DHCP,

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread Indi
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 07:08:05AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: Not to belittle non-power users, most everything can be done by putting some more intelligence into the init.d scripts. Of course, this should be implemented by Gentoo itself. I'll spelunk in the relevant scripts and

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate email messages from fail2ban

2011-09-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:45 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I have fail2ban set up and it works quite well, except for the fact that whenever it sends me an Email, it always sends two copies.  Every night when the logs rotate, it does this twice, once when t stops and once when it restarts,

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT but interesting nonetheless...

2011-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-09-27, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 09/26/11 16:13, Grant Edwards wrote: That's hilarious. The Linux developers are _constantly_ changing APIs in ways that break existing device driver code. There are repeatedly wholesale re-designs of some APIs that happen

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Indi
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 06:46:21PM -0400, Albert W. Hopkins wrote: On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 11:15 -0500, Dale wrote: So buy a mobo without it or that can disable it. Got it. It'll be a good while before I buy a new mobo tho. I'm sure they will have a nice fix by then but this is

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread Indi
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 22:47:18 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: James Broadhead jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 September 2011 03:19, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: Or skip the net config/init scripts stuff and just use something like wicd. Getting a

Re: [gentoo-user] Nepomuk is eating my disk space

2011-09-26 Thread Indi
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 03:18:56AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, My /home partition is 15GB, and the other day KDE warned me it was down to 1% free. I found that .kde4/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend/soprano-v irtuoso.db was occupying