Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: don't waste your time - dbis is already there... dbus lets me access my network interfaces via filesystem ? no, it is ported

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: no, but with static exes you have to recompile everything everytime a security bug is found. That's the job of the distro buildsystem. Ah, and that dramatically minimizes the chance that things break apart (i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: phonon: because phonon is part of qt? And qt is more than just a toolkit? What is it then ? An own OS ? ;-o are you insisting going down the stupid road?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Another service? Yes, a service that will be started only on-demand. so I have to wait for the service to start first? Sounds even crappier. Great - but then shut up about dbus. Who the frak are you

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.4: window tabbing?

2010-02-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 13 Februar 2010, Robin Atwood wrote: Has anyone got the much vaunted window-tabbing of KDE 4.4 working? I have set my middle mouse button to Start window tab drag but when I try it nothing happens. Searching, I found references to a window menu option Move window to group but I

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.4: window tabbing?

2010-02-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 13 Februar 2010, Robin Atwood wrote: On Saturday 13 February 2010, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Samstag 13 Februar 2010, Robin Atwood wrote: Has anyone got the much vaunted window-tabbing of KDE 4.4 working? I have set my middle mouse button to Start window tab drag but when

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86. Got it!

2010-02-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 13 Februar 2010, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Dale, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 05:27:55PM -0600, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: The shop who sold me the components suggested running memtest86 with just one RAM stick at a time. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86. Got it!

2010-02-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: Hi, Dale, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 05:27:55PM -0600, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: The shop who sold me the components suggested

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Alan, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo, My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. The first sign was when the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't dependent of the DE, to require a

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 12 Feb, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo, My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. Just one more reason. Have you got more than 4 Gb RAM installed? If yes, you might have to reduce memory speed. Some CPUs (among them

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:01:22 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser or mail app that they are offline? I don't have a network connection manager and I don't need that function in a browser, mail client or any other app

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: 1. Say stuff it and build a print server into your app. We stopped doing that when DOS fell out of fashion. 2. Support all possible print systems. lpr anyone? 3. Or just use IPC and let dedicated print middleware deal with it.

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo! As reported in other threads, my new PC had a broken RAM stick in it. As a result, an unknown proportion of installed binaries are flaky. One non-functioning binary is probably GCC. What I'd like to do is reinstall every

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: You obviously don't know what you are talking about. And you obviously do? If you start konqueror - for example, it is dbus telling konqueror to start as browser - or file manager. And to load the right kpart. Oh

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: besides being not really usefull anymore? Are you sure you have lpr? Which ones do you have? And do you have it configured for the right printers? What if you don't have lpr but cups? Of course I use cups, don't be silly

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: well, just look at all those ubuntu users. Just for starters. Hm. And those ubuntu users have a choice? For the record, most people using wireless anywhere are using OS's from Redmond or Cupertino (Apple). They don't care

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 13 Februar 2010, walt wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Maybe increasing voltages a bit (0.05 to 0.1V) will help you. It did for me with one certain Asrock board. This is the first I've heard of adjustable voltages. Where/how do you make the adjustment? Bios

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Stroller wrote: On 11 Feb 2010, at 00:01, Jörg Schaible wrote: ... your understanding is wrong. Completely wrong. Seriously it hurts. start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEPOMUK_(framework) and then proceed with the links. google-desktop

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: On Feb 10, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: OK, after reading several articles from the given starting point, I now understand why semantic-desktop wastes so much cpu, memory

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Walter Dnes wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 01:17:07AM +, Stroller wrote I cannot for a moment believe that you (Roy) can organise your files so that you can find them easier than typing a search term clicking on the correct result. You just don't want

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Walter Dnes wrote: Seriously guys, you start sounding like luddites. Is new, must be bad. Correction, is fat, bloated, and slow, must be bad. I wonder if Microsoft's anti-linux strategy is to have its agents infiltrate the linux developer community, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 11 February 2010 13:50:54 Walter Dnes wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 01:31:26AM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: IMO, mandatory semantic-desktop is a very good reason

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 11 February 2010 13:50:54 Walter Dnes wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 01:31:26AM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 11 February 2010 22:37:00 Mark Knecht wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 11

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: Particularly when your wm can handle all the inter-app communication that is necessary without dbus. the problem is the WM can NOT handle all the inter-app communication that is needed by a modern desktop environment. Especially, when you

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 00:13:23 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: One thing I haven't found so far is what to put in make.conf to get the buildpkg feature to include the configs. It's easy at the command line. Where's the documentation

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:53:10 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: Particularly when your wm can handle all the inter-app communication that is necessary

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:03:27 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:53:10 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 00:13:23 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: One thing I haven't found so far is what to put in make.conf to get the buildpkg feature to include

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Christian Apeltauer wrote: Am Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:18:42 + schrieb Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:03:15 -0600, Roy Wright wrote: IMO, mandatory semantic-desktop is a very good reason to find another desktop manager (even after

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Iain Buchanan wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 00:21 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: oh yeah, it is just a great thing that the mail app constantly tries to reach servers and then throws errors. Not like this needs zero cpu cycles and zero ram. It is so much worse

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
February 2010 13:50:54 Walter Dnes wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 01:31:26AM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: IMO, mandatory semantic-desktop is a very good reason to find another desktop manager (even after being my primary desktop for 7

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 00:13:23 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: One thing I haven't found so far is what

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Graham Murray wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes: so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser or mail app that they are offline? Why does the app need to know? others already posted examples why

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? - bar performance so far

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Iain Buchanan wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 07:31 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Iain Buchanan wrote: so long as you didn't have any non-detectable disk errors before removing the disk, or any drive failure while one

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? - bar performance so far

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Iain Buchanan wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 07:31 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Iain Buchanan wrote: so long as you didn't have any non-detectable disk errors before removing the disk, or any drive failure while one

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new version? This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they go to different slots. Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 10 Feb, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new version? This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? - bar performance so far

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, J. Roeleveld wrote: As for recovery, I always use sysrescuecd (http://www.sysresccd.org) and this has Raid and LVM support in it. (Same with the Gentoo-livecds) sysrescuecd failed me hard two nights ago. 64bit kernel paniced with stack corruptions, 32bit kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? - bar performance so far

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Wednesday 10 February 2010 12:03:51 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, J. Roeleveld wrote: As for recovery, I always use sysrescuecd (http://www.sysresccd.org) and this has Raid and LVM support in it. (Same

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Christian Apeltauer wrote: Hello list, when I synced my portage tree today, I saw that kmail-4.4.0 needs kdelibs compiled with USE=semantic-desktop and cannot be told to not use it. But I do not like the idea of semantic desktop and I will not install it. you

Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Stroller wrote: because qt-VERSION is being phased out. You are supposed to use the split qt ebuilds. qt-VERSION is just a meta package. And luckily, all qt-BLABLA-4.5.3 ebuilds are marked stable. ALSO: from the qt-4.5.3 ebuild: KEYWORDS=~alpha amd64 arm hppa

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Am Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2010 schrieb Helmut Jarausch: Hi, has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new version? This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they go to different

Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:59:16 +, Stroller wrote: The message posted to Gentoo-dev suggests that Qt3 is going away right about NOW, but this doesn't seem to add up to

Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:30:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: I seem to have them both installed with only my old version of MYthTV requiring qt-3.3.8 That's easy then,

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Christian Apeltauer wrote: Hello list, when I synced my portage tree today, I saw that kmail-4.4.0 needs kdelibs compiled with USE=semantic-desktop

Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: SNIP Again, I cannot see the 0.22 gives me anything I care about but there's no way to know until I commit to making the change. Cheers, Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Jörg Schaible wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Christian Apeltauer wrote: Hello list, when I synced my portage tree

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: On Feb 10, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Christian Apeltauer wrote: Hello list, when I

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? - bar performance so far

2010-02-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 09 Februar 2010, Stroller wrote: On 9 Feb 2010, at 00:27, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:34:01 -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: Thanks for the info everyone, but do you understand the agony I am now suffering at the fact that all disk in my system (including all parts

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I an Erasee ?

2010-02-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 09 Februar 2010, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I wanted to unsubscribe from this list, but the mlmmj said, that I cannot unsubscribe since I am not subscribed. Which isn't quite right as you can see here. I fear if I would subscribe now a second time and unsubscribe

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? - bar performance so far

2010-02-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Iain Buchanan wrote: On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 13:34 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:46:40 +, Stroller wrote: With the RAID, you could fail one disk, repartition, re-add it, rinse and repeat. But that doesn't take care of the time

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? - bar performance so far

2010-02-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 07 Februar 2010, Alexander wrote: On Sunday 07 February 2010 19:27:46 Mark Knecht wrote: Every time there is an apparent delay I just see the hard drive light turned on solid. That said as far as I know if I wait for things to complete the data is there but I haven't tested

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? - bar performance so far

2010-02-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 07 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Alexander b3n...@yandex.ru wrote: On Sunday 07 February 2010 19:27:46 Mark Knecht wrote: Every time there is an apparent delay I just see the hard drive light turned on solid. That said as far as I know if I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When is a disk not a disk?

2010-02-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
and what happens if you don't use crap - aka sudo but do it the right way - aka su to root?

Re: [gentoo-user] how to get edid info. for monitors in gentoo amd64

2010-01-27 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 27 Januar 2010, Xi Shen wrote: hi, my system is gentoo amd64. i want to get the edid info. for my monitor. the read-edid package would do this, but it only works in 32bit env. do we have a alternative way to get the edid info. in a 64bit env.? lm_sensors-2.XY ---

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.3.95 tarballs?

2010-01-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 25 Januar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 25 January 2010 23:11:18 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Today it is finally released. I don't know why it took so long. :) It's a bit sad though that an open source project keeps secrets... I found out that the tarballs were available

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.3.95 tarballs?

2010-01-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 25 Januar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 01/26/2010 12:06 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Montag 25 Januar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 25 January 2010 23:11:18 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Today it is finally released. I don't know why it took so long. :) It's a bit

Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild and kde-base/kdelibs:3.5

2010-01-02 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 02 Januar 2010, Jon Hardcastle wrote: Hi I am trying to run revdep-rebuild and it gets to the emerge stage and i get this !! All ebuilds that could satisfy kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: -

Re: [gentoo-user] Compressed Filesystem

2009-12-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 31 Dezember 2009, Dale wrote: Marcus Wanner wrote: On 12/30/2009 8:04 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:12:29 -0500, Marcus Wanner wrote: I had to hard reset the system and look at the logs. The only problem was that the logs had the wrong contents because

Re: [gentoo-user] All those helpful post emerge messages...

2009-12-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 30 Dezember 2009, Jon Hardcastle wrote: Guys, I have just done an emerge -eva system and it has installed/reinstalled/upgraded ~102 packages. When it finished i noticed some of them had some helpful YOU MUST DO THIS steps and i am wondering do they all have those or does

Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling already installed packages with modification

2009-12-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 30 Dezember 2009, Willie Wong wrote: On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 01:17:52PM +0100, Penguin Lover Frank Schwidom squawked: as i noticed the directory /usr/portage/distfiles holds all installed sources. What i want to do is modifying the code and reinstalling the package. What is the

Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling already installed packages with modification

2009-12-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 30 Dezember 2009, Willie Wong wrote: On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 02:02:56PM +0100, Penguin Lover Volker Armin Hemmann squawked: you can make it even easier: create: /etc/portage/env/PKG_CATEGORY put patch in that directory create file: /etc/portage/PKG_CATEGORY/PKGNAME

Re: [gentoo-user] Compressed Filesystem

2009-12-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 30 Dezember 2009, Marcus Wanner wrote: On 12/29/2009 7:17 PM, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 00:08 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: just think a moment of the tons of bug fixes constantly going into ext4. That crap is not stable. Pre-alpha maybe. People say

Re: [gentoo-user] Compressed Filesystem

2009-12-29 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 29 Dezember 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 28 Dec, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Montag 28 Dezember 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a working and maintained compressed filesystem. I'd like to use it for backing up my root and my /usr filesystems, so

Re: [gentoo-user] Compressed Filesystem

2009-12-29 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 30 Dezember 2009, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 29.12.2009 14:04, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: I do no know btrfs. But there are two nice things about reiser4: it takes your data seriously. It tries everything to make sure your data hit the platter. Device does not support

Re: [gentoo-user] Compressed Filesystem

2009-12-29 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 30 Dezember 2009, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 00:08 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: just think a moment of the tons of bug fixes constantly going into ext4. That crap is not stable. Pre-alpha maybe. People say this from time to time, yet I have been running

Re: [gentoo-user] Compressed Filesystem

2009-12-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 28 Dezember 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a working and maintained compressed filesystem. I'd like to use it for backing up my root and my /usr filesystems, so that I can use rsync to keep it up-to-date. I've come across CompFused which seems to be just what

Re: [gentoo-user] The current correct way to start kde 4

2009-12-27 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 28 Dezember 2009, Kirill Lipatov wrote: well yeah. I just think that setting the kdm as the login manager is the easiest way to automatically start kde4 session after loging in. However, kdm is of course not mandatory and it can do more than just start kde4 OP wrote he wanted 'kde'

Re: [gentoo-user] Heads up: KDE 4.3 does *not* work OK with Qt 4.6

2009-12-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 15 Dezember 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I read on various blogs (especially Gentoo-related :P) that KDE 4.3.4 works just fine with Qt 4.6. If you were about to upgrade, spare yourselves some headaches. It does not work just fine. On first sight, it does seem to work, but if

Re: [gentoo-user] What magic does portage use?

2009-12-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 13 Dezember 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 12 December 2009 21:42:13 Dale wrote: And some would also argue that cycling power on and off is actually bad for the rig as well. Keeping things at a constant temp is better than fluctuating temps. The old expanding and

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge is loosing memory?

2009-12-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 13 Dezember 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, it seems, something has screwed up my system. The symptoms are: Updateing a certain package with emerge (which successfully compile and install that package) has no effect. Next time exactly the same package is reported again as

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge is loosing memory?

2009-12-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 13 Dezember 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com [09-12-13 13:40]: On Sonntag 13 Dezember 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, it seems, something has screwed up my system. The symptoms are: Updateing a certain package

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge is loosing memory?

2009-12-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 13 Dezember 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com [09-12-13 14:28]: On Sonntag 13 Dezember 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com [09-12-13 13:40]: On Sonntag 13 Dezember 2009, meino.cra

Re: [gentoo-user] What magic does portage use?

2009-12-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 12 Dezember 2009, Dale wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Samstag 12 Dezember 2009, Dale wrote: Willie Wong wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:54:46PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked: That is certainly one good example. My little ol desktop is not rebooted to much. I

Re: [gentoo-user] What magic does portage use?

2009-12-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 12 Dezember 2009, Dale wrote: Willie Wong wrote: On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 06:32:58AM +0100, Penguin Lover Volker Armin Hemmann squawked: and what is the advantage? Why do you keep your computer running, wasting energy? Is there any good reason? I travel a lot

Re: [gentoo-user] What magic does portage use?

2009-12-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 13 Dezember 2009, Marcus Wanner wrote: On 12/12/2009 2:42 PM, Dale wrote: And some would also argue that cycling power on and off is actually bad for the rig as well. Keeping things at a constant temp is better than fluctuating temps. The old expanding and contracting of

Re: [gentoo-user] What magic does portage use?

2009-12-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 11 Dezember 2009, Daniel Troeder wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 07:16 -0600, Dale wrote: Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 11 Dec, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 11 December 2009 11:11:41 Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, I'm curious how portage solves its most difficult part (in my

Re: [gentoo-user] What magic does portage use?

2009-12-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 12 Dezember 2009, Willie Wong wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:54:46PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked: That is certainly one good example. My little ol desktop is not rebooted to much. I once went 242 days without a reboot. Ahem! While we are busy comparing wang sizes,

Re: [gentoo-user] What magic does portage use?

2009-12-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 12 Dezember 2009, Dale wrote: Willie Wong wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:54:46PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked: That is certainly one good example. My little ol desktop is not rebooted to much. I once went 242 days without a reboot. Ahem! While we are busy comparing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug

2009-12-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 05 Dezember 2009, Peter Humphrey wrote: On 5/12/2009, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: Anyway, don't do testing on the machine you use for everyday computing. If you want to get into testing, use a dedicated machine for it. I've been using a separate partition on an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug

2009-12-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 05 Dezember 2009, Philip Webb wrote: Also, I never do a bald 'emerge world'. I look thro' the output of 'eix-sync', write -- with a pencil+paper -- a list of installed pkgs which have changed, run 'emerge -Dup world' to see what order of emerging is recommended, then

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug

2009-12-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 05 Dezember 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:31:16 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: The easy way to avoid problems are BINPKGs. Use it and a downgrade in case of problems only takes seconds. Install demerge too and you can roll back to pre-breakage very easily

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug

2009-12-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 05 Dezember 2009, Philip Webb wrote: 091205 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Samstag 05 Dezember 2009, Philip Webb wrote: Also, I never do a bald 'emerge world'. I look thro' the output of 'eix-sync', write -- with a pencil+paper -- a list of installed pkgs which have changed

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long

2009-12-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 04 Dezember 2009, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: If enough Europeans are in the habit of taking shortcuts and skipping umlauts and accents and cedilla and tildes, we don't. Because skipping Umlaut, accentco creates a completly new word. Probably one that is already there. Munster is a

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long

2009-12-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 03 Dezember 2009, Renat Golubchyk wrote: Hi! On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:20:03 -0800 fe...@crowfix.com wrote: In Germany is a district Busingen, with an umlauted 'u'. Is it reasonable to consider it the same word whether with or without the unlauted u? No. For many words

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long

2009-12-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
look at my name, ok? Just dropping the Umlaut is wrong. No if, but, maybe. It is wrong. Error. Mistake. Fail. If you can not enter ä, ö or ü, you must transform them to ae, oe or ue.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug

2009-12-02 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 02 Dezember 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:45:21 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Yep, this bug was a major annoyance for me too. I emerged patch-2.6 on November 15 and since then, being on ~amd64, a *lot* of other packages. After downgrading, I needed to

Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-11-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 01 Dezember 2009, Maxim Wexler wrote: you guys are killing me -- the problem goes away when the ac cord is plugged in. I open files watch videos surf the web and so on -- no problems. I'm no expert, but that would seem to suggest that the fs is OK, no? I set this forth above. Did

Re: [gentoo-user] How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-11-29 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 29 November 2009, Harry Putnam wrote: How can I determine the motherboard make and model? I mean without opening the case. dmidecode for example: Base Board Information Manufacturer: ASRock Product Name: A770CrossFire Version:

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating RAID: Degraded RAID5 from RAID1?

2009-11-29 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 27 November 2009, Dan Cowsill wrote: Hello list, Currently I have two terabyte hard disks in a RAID1 configuration using software RAID. What I'd like to do is add a third disk and arrive at the end with a RAID5 array. The problem is I have limited disk space and not enough room

Re: [gentoo-user] How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-11-29 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 29 November 2009, Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 29.11.2009 17:23, schrieb Jarry: Harry Putnam wrote: How can I determine the motherboard make and model? I mean without opening the case. # emerge sys-apps/dmidecode # dmidecode | grep Version: Version: ASUS A8N-SLI

Re: [gentoo-user] How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-11-29 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 29 November 2009, Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 29.11.2009 18:04, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: don't grep for version. There are several version strings. # dmidecode | grep Version: Version: P1.60 Version: To Be Filled By O.E.M. Version: Version

Re: [gentoo-user] prune gentoo-sources vs rm gentoo-sources

2009-11-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 26 November 2009, Maxim Wexler wrote: Hi group, according to the docs the approved method of removing old gentoo-sources is emerge --prune. But I've already used rm -rf on them. Have I set myself up for a problem later? Maxim no. in fact, i always remove the sources

Re: [gentoo-user] HD indentification

2009-11-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 24 November 2009, James wrote: Hello, I have a system with a HD in question and if I should rn 'hdparm' or not on this system. Dmegs shows: ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx ATIIXP: IDE controller (0x1002:0x4376 rev 0x00) at PCI

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to loopback mount partition from a disk image

2009-11-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 23 November 2009, Stroller wrote: Hi there, With reference to a couple of previous threads: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/193263 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/197120 Here's what I'm trying: $ ls -lh sda.dd.img -rw-r--r-- 1 stroller

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to loopback mount partition from a disk image

2009-11-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 23 November 2009, Stroller wrote: On 23 Nov 2009, at 18:50, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Montag 23 November 2009, Stroller wrote: Hi there, With reference to a couple of previous threads: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/193263 http://thread.gmane.org

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Downgrade glibc-2.11 to 2.10

2009-11-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 19 November 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 19 November 2009 16:52:39 Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Alan McKinnon (Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:06:45 +0200) A multitude of apps that used to run just fine now give free(): invalid pointer errors since I upgraded to glibc-2.11

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