Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-08 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Monday 08 May 2006 05:18, JimD wrote: Jerônimo Backes wrote: NO! (expand the fontsize to 100 pt or something to get the meaning) ATI support for linux is the crapiest thing on earth! I guess it is safe to assume you don't like ATI : ) nobody who had to deal with their crappy drivers

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-08 Thread Jerônimo Backes
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Monday 08 May 2006 05:18, JimD wrote: Jerônimo Backes wrote: NO! (expand the fontsize to 100 pt or something to get the meaning) ATI support for linux is the crapiest thing on earth! I guess it is safe to assume you don't like ATI : )

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-08 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 5/8/06, Jerônimo Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Monday 08 May 2006 05:18, JimD wrote: Jerônimo Backes wrote: NO! (expand the fontsize to 100 pt or something to get the meaning) ATI support for linux is the crapiest thing on earth! I guess it is safe

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-08 Thread Bruce Burden
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 03:36:18PM +1200, Mark Kirkwood wrote: By way of contrast, I've been running Tyan and Supermicro boards with ATI radeon 9000 and 9200 cards for years without any issues on FreeBSD 4.8, 4.9, 5.3, 5.4 and now 6.0. I just use the supplied drivers that come with Xorg

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-08 Thread Richard Fish
On 5/7/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried editing /etc/hibernate/hibernate.conf and make the nvidia driver module unload when you hibernate and reload it when it comes up? Well, I had done this previously without good results. But I just tried it again in response to your

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-08 Thread JimD
Richard Fish wrote: Well, I had done this previously without good results. But I just tried it again in response to your question, fully expecting to post back yep, it craps out at But it actually seems to be working now...I've been through a half-dozen suspend-resume cycles without a

[gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-07 Thread JimD
I am looking to get a new video card. I have used an NVidia with Linux for a *long* time now. I can't recall when I last bought an ATI card, at least 6 years or more. Anyway I want to get some feedback on the current ATI driver state. Are they stable and pretty easy to use/install? Any

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-07 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
Hi, this is with their windows drivers, and their linux drivers are even worse: http://www.3dnature.com/ati.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-07 Thread JimD
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Hi, this is with their windows drivers, and their linux drivers are even worse: http://www.3dnature.com/ati.html Uuuggh. I thought ATI would have gotten better by now. I guess I can check in on them in another 5 years or so. Jim --

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-07 Thread Jerônimo Backes
Are they stable and pretty easy to use/install? Any problems with games? How about commercial OpenGL games ported to Linux like Call of Duty and Doom 3? They are a pain in the ass! Worse than childbirth or a golf ball inside your kidneys. Problems with games? After all that pain, there is

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-07 Thread Iain Buchanan
Just in case you still had some lingering possibility of using ATI, I thought I'd respond as well :) Firstly, once you have gone through the pain of getting the ati drivers to work (and sure, some people fluke the right combination first go and wonder what all the fuss is about) - things such as

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-07 Thread fire-eyes
On Sunday 07 May 2006 18:54, JimD wrote: I am looking to get a new video card.  I have used an NVidia with Linux for a *long* time now.  I can't recall when I last bought an ATI card, at least 6 years or more. Summary: ATI does make good hardware. However, good hardware paired with poor

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-07 Thread Richard Fish
On 5/7/06, fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish I could rip the ATI card out of this otherwise FANTASTIC laptop, and throw in an nvidia... but that can't happen. Well, as someone who recently changed from an ATI to an NVidia laptop, my view is that, while things _are_ better on this side

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-07 Thread JimD
Jerônimo Backes wrote: NO! (expand the fontsize to 100 pt or something to get the meaning) ATI support for linux is the crapiest thing on earth! I guess it is safe to assume you don't like ATI : ) Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's no place like 127.0.0.1

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-07 Thread Mark Kirkwood
fire-eyes wrote: I strongly suggest avoiding ATI on Linux. My first card was a Radeon 9000. With ati's drivers, the following things were a daily occurance: Complete system hangs (even sysreq didn't matter at this point), games showing severe tearing artifacts, random X deaths, etc. I got

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-07 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Mark Kirkwood wrote: By way of contrast, I've been running Tyan and Supermicro boards with ATI radeon 9000 and 9200 cards for years without any issues on FreeBSD 4.8, 4.9, 5.3, 5.4 and now 6.0. Ooops - meant to write ...on FreeBSD 4.86.0 and *Mandrake Linux before that* (was reading

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-07 Thread JimD
Richard Fish wrote: The biggest complaint I have (and that I see frequently on the nvnews forums) with NVidia's drivers is the time between releases. They used to do a release about every two months, but lately that has slid to 4 or even 5 months sometimes!! Which means I will probably have