Dale wrote:
Hmmm, then I guess I didn't do something right the first time I tried
cgdisk then. It said it wasn't aligned right but I couldn't figure out
how to get it to do it. Then I used Gparted and it seemed to do it
without me telling it anything. The only difference I saw was the
little
On Wednesday 08 Aug 2012 13:53:22 Dale wrote:
I don't use USB for drives, except the USB stick thingys.
I have a question sort of related to this. Anyone can share info. I
see boxes that hold drives in them and connect via ethernet or something
like that. Do those work really well? I
On 08/08/12 at 10:22pm, Dale wrote:
I used something called Gparted to partition this monster. This is
temporary tho. What should I be using to partition this thing? What is
the best, and easiest, tool for me to use? I have been using cfdisk in
the past but it doesn't seem to work on this
Yohan Pereira wrote:
On 08/08/12 at 10:22pm, Dale wrote:
I used something called Gparted to partition this monster. This is
temporary tho. What should I be using to partition this thing? What is
the best, and easiest, tool for me to use? I have been using cfdisk in
the past but it doesn't
On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 22:22:25 -0500, Dale wrote:
I used something called Gparted to partition this monster. This is
temporary tho. What should I be using to partition this thing? What is
the best, and easiest, tool for me to use? I have been using cfdisk in
the past but it doesn't seem to
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 22:22:25 -0500, Dale wrote:
I used something called Gparted to partition this monster. This is
temporary tho. What should I be using to partition this thing? What is
the best, and easiest, tool for me to use? I have been using cfdisk in
the past
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 04:35:15 -0500, Dale wrote:
Do not use cfdisk on 2TB+ drives, it gives bad alignment. Use gdisk or
cgdisk with GPT partition tables. Create a 1MB partition at the start
of type EF02, which keeps backward compatibility, then partition as
normal.
Note that GPT has
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 04:35:15 -0500, Dale wrote:
Do not use cfdisk on 2TB+ drives, it gives bad alignment. Use gdisk or
cgdisk with GPT partition tables. Create a 1MB partition at the start
of type EF02, which keeps backward compatibility, then partition as
normal.
Note
Dale writes:
I have seen where people use dd to do this sort of thing to. I read
somewhere that if you do a dd and put in all 1's, then all 0's then back
again that it is very hard to get any data back off the drive. I think
if you do it like over a dozen times, it is deemed impossible to
Alex Schuster wrote:
Dale writes:
I have seen where people use dd to do this sort of thing to. I read
somewhere that if you do a dd and put in all 1's, then all 0's then back
again that it is very hard to get any data back off the drive. I think
if you do it like over a dozen times, it is
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 08:53:27 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Alex Schuster wrote:
Dale writes:
I have seen where people use dd to do this sort of thing to. I
read somewhere that if you do a dd and put in all 1's, then all
0's then back again that it is very hard to get any data
William Kenworthy wrote:
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 23:18 -0500, Dale wrote:
William Kenworthy wrote:
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 21:19 -0500, Dale wrote:
Paul Hartman wrote:
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
...
Goggle have a well known document
On Wednesday 08 August 2012 01:32:55 Mark Knecht wrote:
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Peter Humphrey
pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote:
On Tuesday 07 August 2012 23:39:05 Mark Knecht wrote:
Dead out of the box is dead. However a drive failing in a couple
of months _might_ have showed up in
On Wednesday 08 Aug 2012 05:21:31 Adam Carter wrote:
To wipe a drive use dban. - live CD which uses (US) gov approved
standards of wipe methods/patterns.
Or shred, which comes with coreutils.
dd is only going to show sectors on a failed drive - too late!
To explain, modern drives
Mick wrote:
On Wednesday 08 Aug 2012 05:21:31 Adam Carter wrote:
To wipe a drive use dban. - live CD which uses (US) gov approved
standards of wipe methods/patterns.
Or shred, which comes with coreutils.
dd is only going to show sectors on a failed drive - too late!
To explain, modern
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On Aug 6, 2012 4:22 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Howdy,
I finally got me a 3Tb drive on the way. Should be here Wednesday. I
have seen some reviews where it would not
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
4 or 5 hours huh. I guess drives are a lot faster now. Back in the
late 80's or early 90's, it took that long for those whimpy little 100Mb
drives. Ooops, my ages is showing again. lol
I recently found a box of hard drives in
Paul Hartman wrote:
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
4 or 5 hours huh. I guess drives are a lot faster now. Back in the
late 80's or early 90's, it took that long for those whimpy little 100Mb
drives. Ooops, my ages is showing again. lol
I recently found a
Dale wrote:
Howdy,
I finally got me a 3Tb drive on the way. Should be here Wednesday. I
have seen some reviews where it would not work right. I think some of
it may be BIOS related since some BIOS's don't like drives that large.
Anyway, I want to test this thing real good to really make
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Dale wrote:
Howdy,
I finally got me a 3Tb drive on the way. Should be here Wednesday. I
have seen some reviews where it would not work right. I think some of
it may be BIOS related since some BIOS's don't like drives that
Mark Knecht wrote:
Now, don't you wear it out, you hear?!?!? ;-) If your machine runs all
the time you can add smartctl runs as chron jobs that run at midnight
and have the results emailed to you. Look at them once a week and
other than an unpredictable catastrophic failure you'll likely know
Dale wrote:
Not going to wear it out but going to make sure it survived the trip
across the country while bouncing around in the box. :/ Check this
out: Aug 8 12:46:47 localhost smartd[2083]: Device: /dev/sdd, type
changed from 'scsi' to 'sat' Aug 8 12:46:47 localhost smartd[2083]:
Device:
Paul Hartman wrote:
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Howdy,
I finally got me a 3Tb drive on the way. Should be here Wednesday. I
have seen some reviews where it would not work right. I think some of
it may be BIOS related since some BIOS's don't like drives
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
Well, I don't want to force it to fail just for the heck of it.
Of course...
I just
want to make sure it is not going to fail in the first few months of
use.
But what you don't know about those failed drives is whether
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
Well, I don't want to force it to fail just for the heck of it.
Of course...
I just
want to make sure it is not going to fail in the first few months of
use.
But what you don't know about those failed
On Tuesday 07 August 2012 23:39:05 Mark Knecht wrote:
Dead out of the box is dead. However a drive failing in a couple of
months _might_ have showed up in the smartctl output ...
I wonder. Does anyone here know what most often causes HD failure after
a couple of months? I imagine it's some
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I didn't know you could do low level formats anymore. Really? What
package provides that? Hmmm, I'm thinking about those HOURS spent
formatting a 100Mb drive and then thinking about how long it will take
to do a 3Tb drive.
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
In
the meantime, it is what it is.
I completely understand Dale, and I'm not picking on you. Just get
that second drive as soon as you can.
Cheers,
Mark
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote:
On Tuesday 07 August 2012 23:39:05 Mark Knecht wrote:
Dead out of the box is dead. However a drive failing in a couple of
months _might_ have showed up in the smartctl output ...
I wonder. Does anyone here know
Paul Hartman wrote:
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I didn't know you could do low level formats anymore. Really? What
package provides that? Hmmm, I'm thinking about those HOURS spent
formatting a 100Mb drive and then thinking about how long it will take
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 21:19 -0500, Dale wrote:
Paul Hartman wrote:
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I didn't know you could do low level formats anymore. Really? What
package provides that? Hmmm, I'm thinking about those HOURS spent
formatting a 100Mb
I have seen where people use dd to do this sort of thing to. I read
somewhere that if you do a dd and put in all 1's, then all 0's then back
again that it is very hard to get any data back off the drive. I think
if you do it like over a dozen times, it is deemed impossible to get
anything
On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 14:02 +1000, Adam Carter wrote:
I have seen where people use dd to do this sort of thing to. I read
somewhere that if you do a dd and put in all 1's, then all 0's then back
again that it is very hard to get any data back off the drive. I think
if you do it like over
William Kenworthy wrote:
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 21:19 -0500, Dale wrote:
Paul Hartman wrote:
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I didn't know you could do low level formats anymore. Really? What
package provides that? Hmmm, I'm thinking about those HOURS spent
To wipe a drive use dban. - live CD which uses (US) gov approved
standards of wipe methods/patterns.
Or shred, which comes with coreutils.
dd is only going to show sectors on a failed drive - too late!
To explain, modern drives have a store of locations they can use to
transparently
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 23:18 -0500, Dale wrote:
William Kenworthy wrote:
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 21:19 -0500, Dale wrote:
Paul Hartman wrote:
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
...
Goggle have a well known document
Dale wrote:
Howdy,
I finally got me a 3Tb drive on the way. Should be here Wednesday. I
have seen some reviews where it would not work right. I think some of
it may be BIOS related since some BIOS's don't like drives that large.
Anyway, I want to test this thing real good to really make
What do you gain if you abuse your drive so hard that its lifetime is
severly impacted?
Am 06.08.2012 11:47 schrieb Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com:
Dale wrote:
Howdy,
I finally got me a 3Tb drive on the way. Should be here Wednesday. I
have seen some reviews where it would not work right.
On Monday 06 Aug 2012 10:42:17 Dale wrote:
If it has a issue, hopefully
the test will bring that to the front now instead of later.
Or it is just going to knacker your drive and make it fail earlier that it
would otherwise (esp if you overheat it)? ha, ha!
P. S. What is a good way to
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
What do you gain if you abuse your drive so hard that its lifetime is
severly impacted?
That if it has a problem that will cause it to fail soon in it's life,
then I can find it soon. Remember that curve about failures? I would
like to get past that first part of
Mick wrote:
On Monday 06 Aug 2012 10:42:17 Dale wrote:
If it has a issue, hopefully
the test will bring that to the front now instead of later.
Or it is just going to knacker your drive and make it fail earlier that it
would otherwise (esp if you overheat it)? ha, ha!
Well, if it is going
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On 06.08.2012 12:14, Dale wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
What do you gain if you abuse your drive so hard that its
lifetime is severly impacted?
That if it has a problem that will cause it to fail soon in it's
life, then I can find it
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 04:42:17 -0500, Dale wrote:
P. S. What is a good way to back up something this large BESIDES
another drive the same size or larger?
A smaller drive, backups can be compressed. Also, you don't need to
backup everything, for example rips of DVDs and CDs you own can be
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 04:42:17 -0500, Dale wrote:
P. S. What is a good way to back up something this large BESIDES
another drive the same size or larger?
A smaller drive, backups can be compressed. Also, you don't need to
backup everything, for example rips of DVDs and
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 06:25:19 -0500, Dale wrote:
While I am at it. You should have a good answer for this one. What is
a good file system for this sort of thing? I been using ext4 but it
sure does use a lot of space for its overhead.
My MythTV box used XFS, but I use ext4 on newer systems.
What I have on there is videos. When I tried to compress some and test,
it was basically the same size. I guess videos don't compress to much?
No videos don't compress well at all, compressing video files is just a
waste of cpu cycles :)
When I put this in, I'm going to redo the whole
On Monday 06 Aug 2012 12:25:19 Dale wrote:
What I have on there is videos. When I tried to compress some and test,
it was basically the same size. I guess videos don't compress to much?
Not without transcoding the streams into more space efficient formats - but
you could well suffer from
On Monday 06 Aug 2012 11:48:50 Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote:
On 06.08.2012 12:14, Dale wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
What do you gain if you abuse your drive so hard that its
lifetime is severly impacted?
That if it has a problem that will cause it to fail soon in it's
life,
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Howdy,
I finally got me a 3Tb drive on the way. Should be here Wednesday. I
have seen some reviews where it would not work right. I think some of
it may be BIOS related since some BIOS's don't like drives that large.
Anyway,
Howdy,
I finally got me a 3Tb drive on the way. Should be here Wednesday. I
have seen some reviews where it would not work right. I think some of
it may be BIOS related since some BIOS's don't like drives that large.
Anyway, I want to test this thing real good to really make sure it is up
to
On Kindle so hard to answer in depth. What about smartctl??? Let the
drive test itself.
Dale writes:
I finally got me a 3Tb drive on the way. Should be here Wednesday. I
have seen some reviews where it would not work right. I think some of
it may be BIOS related since some BIOS's don't like drives that large.
Anyway, I want to test this thing real good to really make sure it
hi
Dale wrote, at 08/05/2012 04:45 PM:
Howdy,
I have heard of bonnie and friends. I also think dd could do some
testing too. Is there any other way to give this a good work and see if
it holds up? Oh, helpful hints with Bonnie would be great too. I have
never used it before. Maybe
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