Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 09:41:07AM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote > > > Well, I am trying to use the nvidia driver which conflicts with uvesafb > > frame buffer, so it seems. It used to work fine, but not it does not > > work anymore and the only solutions I

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread waltdnes
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 09:41:07AM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote > Well, I am trying to use the nvidia driver which conflicts with uvesafb > frame buffer, so it seems. It used to work fine, but not it does not > work anymore and the only solutions I have found was a couple of grub >

loading frame bufrer modules (was Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question)

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:00:33 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > That's why I said "switch to nouveau", using that instead of the > > > binary drivers should avoid the conflict. > > > > Can I use uvesafb and noveau at the same time? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:57:40 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > The nvidia drivers are the proprietary drivers produced by NVIDIA; the > > nouveau drivers are the open-source version. Typically, the nouveau > > driver works as well as the nouveau, except in some high-intensity > >

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:00:33 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > That's why I said "switch to nouveau", using that instead of the > > binary drivers should avoid the conflict. > > Can I use uvesafb and noveau at the same time? I've not tried it, but as both are proper in-kernel modules,

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Dutch Ingraham
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 12:57:40PM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:52:57AM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > > > > On Wednesday 15 Jun 2016 11:05:13

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:55:39 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:41:07 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:55:39 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:41:07 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:42:45 -0400,

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:05:13 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > Might it not be simpler to avoid the conflict by switching to the > > > nouveau drivers rather than trying to learn a new bootloader just to > > > pass a workround? > > > > You

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Dutch Ingraham wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:52:57AM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday 15 Jun 2016 11:05:13 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > > > > You can't use the nouveau drivers and the nvidia

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:41:07 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:42:45 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > But the manual and the html pages constantly

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:52:57 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Perhaps I've missed it, but is there any reason you must have > > nvidia-drivers rather than nouveau? > > I have a nvidia card, so I need the nvidia drivers, unless I am missinng > something? You are, the fact that nouveau

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:05:13 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Might it not be simpler to avoid the conflict by switching to the > > nouveau drivers rather than trying to learn a new bootloader just to > > pass a workround? > > You can't use the nouveau drivers and the nvidia driver at

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:52:57 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > On Wednesday 15 Jun 2016 11:05:13 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > > You can't use the nouveau drivers and the nvidia driver at the same > > > time, so this is the problem.

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Dutch Ingraham
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:52:57AM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > On Wednesday 15 Jun 2016 11:05:13 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > > You can't use the nouveau drivers and the nvidia driver at the same > > > time, so this is the

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:41:07 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:42:45 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > > > > But the manual and the html pages constantly talk about the grub > > > > > command or rather the grub

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 15 Jun 2016 11:05:13 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > You can't use the nouveau drivers and the nvidia driver at the same > > time, so this is the problem. I did try that once, but at the time > > which was quite a while ago, it

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 15 Jun 2016 11:05:13 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > You can't use the nouveau drivers and the nvidia driver at the same > time, so this is the problem. I did try that once, but at the time > which was quite a while ago, it didn't work. Perhaps I've missed it, but is there any

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:41:07 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > Why are you looking to switch from Lilo to GRUB now? If Lilo works, > > > stick with it. If it is because you have EFI hardware, I'd skip GRUB > > > and go straight to Gummiboot

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:41:07 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Why are you looking to switch from Lilo to GRUB now? If Lilo works, > > stick with it. If it is because you have EFI hardware, I'd skip GRUB > > and go straight to Gummiboot or systemd-boot. > > Well, I am trying to use the

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:42:45 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > > But the manual and the html pages constantly talk about the grub > > > > command or rather the grub interactive command, and they usually > > > > call it grub, maybe it has a

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:42:45 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > But the manual and the html pages constantly talk about the grub > > > command or rather the grub interactive command, and they usually > > > call it grub, maybe it has a different name. > > > > That's the GRUB interactive

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:31:04 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > But the manual and the html pages constantly talk about the grub command > > or rather the grub interactive command, and they usually call it grub, > > maybe it has a different

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:31:04 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > But the manual and the html pages constantly talk about the grub command > or rather the grub interactive command, and they usually call it grub, > maybe it has a different name. That's the GRUB interactive shell, that you get to

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 15/06/2016 13:50, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Hi. I am looking at grub2 as a possible boot loader -- I have been > > using lilo for years, but one thing puzzles me -- there seems to be no > > grub command, I don't see it in the list of