Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS

2013-09-04 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 09:22:37AM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 03.09.2013 23:31, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: This link gave me the deciding hint -- I didn't have cryptsetup-generator in my system, because I didn’t have the cryptsetup useflags enabled. I rebuilt systemd and

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS

2013-09-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 09:22:37AM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 03.09.2013 23:31, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: This link gave me the deciding hint -- I didn't have cryptsetup-generator in my system, because I

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS

2013-09-04 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 09:16:55AM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Well, it’s an experiment, but I’m still quite hesitant to switch. It really shuts down fast (1 to 2 seconds or so), but I don’t see much improvement in booting time (still around 40 seconds until KDM is finished). I like

[gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS

2013-09-03 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Hey list after the many discussions here about systemd I had a flash of objectivity (“Who cares if people rant about Lennart, the concept seems sound and I don’t care about separate /usr”). So I wanted to try systemd on my netbook. I cloned the / partition from sda2 to sda7 and chrooted into it.

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS

2013-09-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.09.2013 13:46, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: Hey list after the many discussions here about systemd I had a flash of objectivity (“Who cares if people rant about Lennart, the concept seems sound and I don’t care about separate /usr”). So I wanted to try systemd on my netbook. I

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS

2013-09-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.09.2013 14:32, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: I use a crypted /home on my thinkpad ... with systemd. I only have problems with the encrypted swap but /home works fine. But I think my /home gets mounted when I login ... pam_mount ... would have to check if it's mounted and available

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS

2013-09-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: Hey list after the many discussions here about systemd I had a flash of objectivity (“Who cares if people rant about Lennart, the concept seems sound and I don’t care about separate /usr”). So I wanted to try systemd on

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS

2013-09-03 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 03.09.2013 13:46, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: Hey list after the many discussions here about systemd I had a flash of objectivity (“Who cares if people rant about Lennart, the concept seems sound and I don’t care about separate /usr”). So I wanted to try systemd on my netbook. I

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS

2013-09-03 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 11:15:54AM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Hey list […] Rebooting works until the point of mounting /home, which is a LUKS container. I get the message: A start job is running for dev-mapper-home.service and eventually a timeout and prompt for root password

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-23 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 23.08.2013 00:44, schrieb Neil Bothwick: /etc/grub.d/40_custom Add you entries there, and change the number in the filename to have them appear before the autogenerated entries. Thanks for the pointer. Gotta play with that.

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-22 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wed, August 21, 2013 22:02, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:50:57 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: This sounds like a bug in LVM. If it was down to a version clash, why did a restart find the PVs? Sorry, ianap, but I do know that this kind of thing has never happened to me in my 8+

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/08/2013 08:20, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Wed, August 21, 2013 22:02, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:50:57 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: [snip] No one has demonstrated that it can. An initramfs isn't magic, it caries out a couple of trivial tasks before switching to the real root

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-22 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thu, August 22, 2013 08:39, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 22/08/2013 08:20, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Wed, August 21, 2013 22:02, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:50:57 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: [snip] No one has demonstrated that it can. An initramfs isn't magic, it caries out a

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:23:57 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: True, but with the scripts that are floating in this thread, a usable solution can be build. It took me a few seconds to do that, so why hasn't it been done before? It's obviously not due to the work involved, so it must be that no one

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:20:23 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: No one has demonstrated that it can. An initramfs isn't magic, it caries out a couple of trivial tasks before switching to the real root partition. The issue mentioned was an example. It was also: 1) The only one I can remember

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 07:26:38 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: So the only out of sync scenario that should matter is with the kernel or kernel modules. Even if it were out of sync with your current toolset it should still be able to perform the pivot. Shouldn't any userland stuff that breaks

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-22 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Aug 22, 2013 1:28 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Correct, and here lies the cause for the out of sync scenario. So the only out of sync scenario that should matter is with the kernel or kernel modules. Even if it were out of sync with your current toolset it should still be

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/08/2013 13:47, Mark David Dumlao wrote: On Aug 22, 2013 1:28 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org mailto:jo...@antarean.org wrote: Correct, and here lies the cause for the out of sync scenario. So the only out of sync scenario that should matter is with the kernel or kernel modules.

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-22 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thu, August 22, 2013 11:07, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:23:57 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: True, but with the scripts that are floating in this thread, a usable solution can be build. It took me a few seconds to do that, so why hasn't it been done before? It's obviously not

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-22 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thu, August 22, 2013 11:17, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:20:23 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: No one has demonstrated that it can. An initramfs isn't magic, it caries out a couple of trivial tasks before switching to the real root partition. The issue mentioned was an

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:55:58 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: No thanks you. As Alan said, portage doesn't have a mechanism to run a command after a batch emerge, it would have to be done after every single package. So the next time a bunch of Perl packages and their virtuals are updated, look

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-22 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 20.08.2013 08:54, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: Unless you want to learn the ins and outs of using an initramfs (and having a lot of fun and failed boots in the process), I highly recommend using Dracut. It does everything for you. I'd dig a short and working howto systemd and dracut. My

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 23:08:43 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Additionally I would really like to understand how to influence the default entry for grub2 ... letting grub2-mkconfig detect the available options is one thing ... but do I really have to count down the available kernels and

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread thegeezer
On 08/21/2013 02:13 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 01:54:26AM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote No, the kernel has a mini filesystem (doesn't matter which directory structure has inside), and it

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-21 3:06 AM, thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote: On 08/21/2013 02:13 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: The worry about falling out of sync, although justified, I think it's a little overreacted; even for things like LVM2 and NFS, how many times changes the metadata or format used by

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:40:32 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: update LVM2 kernel remains the same reboot initramfs finds all PVS and activates VG main system init /etc/init.d/lvm2 start error can't read from USB PVS login to system with missing PVS /etc/init.d/lvm2 restart all PVS

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-21 11:10 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:40:32 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: update LVM2 kernel remains the same reboot initramfs finds all PVS and activates VG main system init /etc/init.d/lvm2 start error can't read from USB PVS login to system with

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread thegeezer
On 08/21/2013 04:10 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:40:32 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: update LVM2 kernel remains the same reboot initramfs finds all PVS and activates VG main system init /etc/init.d/lvm2 start error can't read from USB PVS login to system with missing PVS

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM, thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote: On 08/21/2013 04:10 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:40:32 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: update LVM2 kernel remains the same reboot initramfs finds all PVS and activates VG main system init

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread thegeezer
On 08/21/2013 05:42 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM, thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote: On 08/21/2013 04:10 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:40:32 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: update LVM2 kernel remains the same reboot initramfs finds all PVS

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:56 PM, thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote: anyone have any good pointers to an initramfs interrogator, maybe that takes as argument kernel command line ? If you are looking to test an initramfs, qemu is handy. qemu-kvm -kernel /boot/vmlinuz -initrd

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:56:36 +0100, thegeezer wrote: anyone have any good pointers to an initramfs interrogator, maybe that takes as argument kernel command line ? I posted a script fragment that compares the contents of the kernel's initramfs config file with the live filesystem. Dracut users

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-21 2:52 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:56:36 +0100, thegeezer wrote: anyone have any good pointers to an initramfs interrogator, maybe that takes as argument kernel command line ? I posted a script fragment that compares the contents of the

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-08-21 2:52 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:56:36 +0100, thegeezer wrote: anyone have any good pointers to an initramfs interrogator, maybe that takes as argument kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:50:57 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: This sounds like a bug in LVM. If it was down to a version clash, why did a restart find the PVs? Sorry, ianap, but I do know that this kind of thing has never happened to me in my 8+ years of running this old system with a separate

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread thegeezer
On 08/21/2013 07:52 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:56:36 +0100, thegeezer wrote: anyone have any good pointers to an initramfs interrogator, maybe that takes as argument kernel command line ? I posted a script fragment that compares the contents of the kernel's initramfs

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 21:09:41 +0100, thegeezer wrote: I posted a script fragment that compares the contents of the kernel's initramfs config file with the live filesystem. Dracut users could use the same method by parsing the output from lsinitrd. the script you posted referenced

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-08-20 2:54 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Unless you want to learn the ins and outs of using an initramfs (and having a lot of fun and failed boots in the process), I highly recommend using

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-08-20 2:54 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Unless you want to learn the ins and outs of using an initramfs (and having a lot of fun and failed boots in the process), I highly recommend using

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-20 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 08/19/2013 04:55:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, what binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a system booting with init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd ? (I am building the initramsfs

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 20/08/2013 08:44, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 08/19/2013 04:55:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, what binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a system booting with

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: On 08/19/2013 04:55:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, what binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-20 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 08/20/2013 08:54:26 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: On 08/19/2013 04:55:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, what

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-20 2:54 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Unless you want to learn the ins and outs of using an initramfs (and having a lot of fun and failed boots in the process), I highly recommend using Dracut. It does everything for you. What about a previous posters comment that

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 06:57:02 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Unless you want to learn the ins and outs of using an initramfs (and having a lot of fun and failed boots in the process), I highly recommend using Dracut. It does everything for you. What about a previous posters comment that they

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:10:26 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: So, how do/can you *guarantee* that nothing ever gets out of sync? You could add a custom postinst function to /etc/portage that would check whether any of the files included in your initramfs are newer than the initramfs/kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-20 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 01:54:26AM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote No, the kernel has a mini filesystem (doesn't matter which directory structure has inside), and it executes the init script (or binary program) in the root of the initramfs. This init program/script is the responsible for

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 01:54:26AM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote No, the kernel has a mini filesystem (doesn't matter which directory structure has inside), and it executes the init script (or binary program) in the

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-20 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: On 08/19/2013 04:55:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, what binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a

[gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-19 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, what binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a system booting with init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd ? (I am building the initramsfs myself) Thanks for some hints, Helmut

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-19 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, what binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a system booting with init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd ? (I am building the initramsfs myself) You need to get your root filesystem and /usr

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-19 Thread thegeezer
On 08/19/2013 10:58 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, what binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a system booting with init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd ? (I am building the initramsfs myself) Thanks for some hints, Helmut my 2c would be to autobuild one using genkernel or

[gentoo-user] systemd and local equivalent

2013-08-15 Thread covici
Hi. I would like to be able to have an equivalent of /etc/local.d/ something to execute those commands which do not fit neatly into the boot scheme -- for instance I have several things which have something in init.d and I just have to say /etc/init.d/thing start after everything is up. There

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and local equivalent

2013-08-15 Thread Mark Pariente
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 17:41 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I would like to be able to have an equivalent of /etc/local.d/ something to execute those commands which do not fit neatly into the boot scheme -- for instance I have several things which have something in init.d and I just

Re: [gentoo-user] [systemd vs consolekit] packagekit-base

2013-07-26 Thread András Csányi
On 25 July 2013 22:31, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:06 PM, András Csányi sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu wrote: Hi All, [snip] Unity is in the tree? Where? In the unity-gentoo overlay. At the moment the overlay packages are clashing the already unmasked

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd and static network

2013-07-26 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.07.2013 17:42, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: What do you use - and what are the benefits of your method? I use the following unit in one of my servers: # --- [Unit] My current version, using

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd and static network

2013-07-26 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 2013-07-26 11:26, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 25.07.2013 17:42, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: What do you use - and what are the benefits of your method? I use the following unit in one of my servers: #

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Jul 23 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Tue, Jul 23 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote: I wouldn't stress about it too much, your choice is do you want to use Gnome3 or not? And then just use whatever Gnome3 gives as *that* part

[gentoo-user] Systemd and static network

2013-07-25 Thread Michael Hampicke
Howdy folks, currently I am migrating some servers to systemd, and I am wondering what's the best way to set up static networking. Until now, I always used dhcp + networkmanager (workstations, laptops). Some suggested creating your own network unit and manually start ifconfig/route or ip via

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd and static network

2013-07-25 Thread Douglas J Hunley
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote: What do you use - and what are the benefits of your method? Why not continue to use DHCP and simply set a static assignment based on the MAC inside the DHCP server? Then it doesn't matter how the system is setup, it just

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd and static network

2013-07-25 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Thursday 25 July 2013 17:23:56 I wrote: Systemd will not read /etc/conf.d/net like /etc/init.d/net.* scripts do. You need some service that will prepare the network. I personally prefer netctl, it is KISS enough. It was me who asked the devs to add it to the tree :) I tried NM too, it does

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd and static network

2013-07-25 Thread Pavel Volkov
KMail is messing with my emails here, quotations in sent letters are not the way they used to look in edit mode :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd and static network

2013-07-25 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Thursday 25 July 2013 08:18:00 Douglas J Hunley wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz[1] wrote: What do you use - and what are the benefits of your method? Systemd will not read /etc/conf.d/net like /etc/init.d/net.* scripts do. You need some service

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd and static network

2013-07-25 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 2013-07-25 14:18, schrieb Douglas J Hunley: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote: What do you use - and what are the benefits of your method? Why not continue to use DHCP and simply set a static assignment based on the MAC inside the DHCP server? Then it

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd and static network

2013-07-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 5:46 AM, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote: Howdy folks, currently I am migrating some servers to systemd, and I am wondering what's the best way to set up static networking. Until now, I always used dhcp + networkmanager (workstations, laptops). Some suggested

[gentoo-user] [systemd vs consolekit] packagekit-base

2013-07-25 Thread András Csányi
Hi All, Due to the fact I use Unity and it pulls lot of gnome stuff I started to migrate my desktop from consolekit to systemd. At the point described below I run out of knowledge. Does not matter what I do packagekit-base package wants consolekit. It looks like badly... :S Thanks in advance for

Re: [gentoo-user] [systemd vs consolekit] packagekit-base

2013-07-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:06 PM, András Csányi sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu wrote: Hi All, Due to the fact I use Unity and it pulls lot of gnome stuff I started to migrate my desktop from consolekit to systemd. At the point described below I run out of knowledge. Does not matter what I do

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd and static network

2013-07-25 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 25.07.2013 17:42, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 5:46 AM, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote: Howdy folks, currently I am migrating some servers to systemd, and I am wondering what's the best way to set up static networking. Until now, I always used dhcp +

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd and static network

2013-07-25 Thread Keith Dart
Re CADPrc803kq_c76b1oqp3PksvDgyP5MD+zqLGqcsxk=eCT2iYRA@mail.gmail.comCADPrc803kq_c76b1oqp3PksvDgyP5MD+zqLGqcsxk=eCT2iYRA@mail.gmail.com51f10221.1080...@hadt.biz, Michael Hampicke said: Tanks. I will give netctl a try in a VM. For now, on real machines, I am going with the unit you suggested.

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread András Csányi
On 22 July 2013 21:57, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote: Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, and purge CK from your system; I did that

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/07/13 09:11, András Csányi wrote: On 22 July 2013 21:57, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote: Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, and

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:58 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: [ snip ] I have several things depending on consolekit: sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.5_p20120320-r2 pulled in by: gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.8.3 requires

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 23/07/2013 11:31, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: So, this implies if I want to keep using gnome then systemd is required, or use another desktop. That is something to think about. Correct. I wouldn't stress about it too much, your choice is do you want to use Gnome3 or not? And then just use

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 2013-07-23 08:11, schrieb András Csányi: On 22 July 2013 21:57, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote: Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Jul 23 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote: I wouldn't stress about it too much, your choice is do you want to use Gnome3 or not? And then just use whatever Gnome3 gives as *that* part you don't have a choice about. Very clearly stated. Thanks. Currently I have gnome-base/gnome-3.6.2 with

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Monday 22 July 2013 21:57:06 Michael Hampicke wrote: Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, and purge CK from your system; I did that

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:31 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:58 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: [ snip ] I have several things depending on consolekit: sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.5_p20120320-r2 pulled in by:

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Tue, Jul 23 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote: I wouldn't stress about it too much, your choice is do you want to use Gnome3 or not? And then just use whatever Gnome3 gives as *that* part you don't have a choice about. Very clearly

[gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.4 requires systemd sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.6cannot coexist with systemd but many packages depend on sys-auth/consolekit : emerge -vpc sys-auth/consolekit gives sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.5_p20120320-r2 pulled in by:

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 22. Juli 2013, 09:03:46 schrieb Helmut Jarausch: Hi, gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.4 requires systemd sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.6cannot coexist with systemd but many packages depend on sys-auth/consolekit : emerge -vpc sys-auth/consolekit gives

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 22/07/13 10:03, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, How did you resolve this conflict? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut As a maintainer of sys-auth/consolekit, and xfce-base/xfce4-meta I can assure you sys-auth/consolekit is not about to be removed and the support for systemd-logind will be

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jul 22, 2013 6:34 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 22/07/13 10:03, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, How did you resolve this conflict? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut As a maintainer of sys-auth/consolekit, and xfce-base/xfce4-meta I can assure you sys-auth/consolekit is

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Philip Webb
130722 Helmut Jarausch wrote: gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.4 requires systemd sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.6cannot coexist with systemd but many packages depend on sys-auth/consolekit : How did you resolve this conflict? Don't use Gnome. I've been using Fluxbox for years

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread András Csányi
On 22 July 2013 15:35, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: 130722 Helmut Jarausch wrote: gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.4 requires systemd sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.6cannot coexist with systemd but many packages depend on sys-auth/consolekit : How did you resolve

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/07/2013 15:39, András Csányi wrote: On 22 July 2013 15:35, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: 130722 Helmut Jarausch wrote: gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.4 requires systemd sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.6cannot coexist with systemd but many packages depend on

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, and purge CK from your system; I did that almost a year ago. Regards. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 22/07/13 18:02, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, and purge CK from your system; I did that almost a year ago. It's how you look at it. I call it mature but

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
yeah, because it is so great to have that monster systemd on your box. Because xml configs are awesome and binary logs even more and I always wanted an init with builtin webbrowser. Security? bah, not needed. So when do I have to install mysql to use it? How long until some crap ala

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 09:35:22AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote: 130722 Helmut Jarausch wrote: gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.4 requires systemd sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.6cannot coexist with systemd but many packages depend on sys-auth/consolekit : How did you resolve

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, and purge CK from your system; I did that almost a year ago. Thanks, just purged consolekit from my

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
maybe you should not just believe everything posted. Especially from a systemd fanboi. 2013/7/22 Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Mark David Dumlao
This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally intended. But yeah you usually stay away from unmaintained upstreams. On Jul 22, 2013 11:03 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: ConsoleKit is for

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Mark David Dumlao
Thank you for the FUD. I was beginning to miss M$. Heres the freedesktop entry for a more authoritative statement. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit/ On Jul 23, 2013 4:57 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: maybe you should not just believe everything

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Mark David Dumlao
Thanks for the FUD. On Jul 22, 2013 11:15 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: yeah, because it is so great to have that monster systemd on your box. Because xml configs are awesome and binary logs even more and I always wanted an init with builtin webbrowser. Security?

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread covici
Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for the FUD. I was beginning to miss M$. Heres the freedesktop entry for a more authoritative statement. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit/ On Jul 23, 2013 4:57 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:58 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: [ snip ] I have several things depending on consolekit: sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.5_p20120320-r2 pulled in by: gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.8.3 requires sys-auth/consolekit Dependency of gnome-control-center: || ( (

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Mark Pariente
On Mon, 2013-07-22 at 17:14 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: yeah, because it is so great to have that monster systemd on your box. Because xml configs are awesome and binary logs even more and I always wanted an init with builtin webbrowser. Security? bah, not needed. So when do I have

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally intended. not possible, logind since systemd = 205 requires systemd and won't work on openrc, upstart, and such

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd: Smack is not enabled in the kernel, not loading access rules

2013-04-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM, João Matos jaon...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list, Every boot, since I don't know when, systemd display the warning message: Smack is not enabled in the kernel, not loading access rules. Today, I decide to check it out. Googled it, found out some stuff about

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2 SOLVED

2013-03-09 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Upgrading to systemd-198 and udev-198 magically enabled me to login via gdm again. Nice ... Stefan

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