Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update and /etc/portage/package.*

2006-12-27 Thread Arnau Bria
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 20:40:58 +0100 Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Friday 22 December 2006 12:30, Arnau Bria wrote: [...] It's done because of the updates files in /usr/portage/profiles/updates/ which I think are read during `emerge --sync`. I'm not aware of any documentation for this so I

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update and /etc/portage/package.*

2006-12-23 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 22 December 2006 12:30, Arnau Bria wrote: It's the first time that etc-update changes something in my /etc/portage dir. It has changed x11-themes/emerald-themes cause it has changed its category and removed ksudoku... I undestand first change, but not second one, so could someone

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update vs dispatch-conf

2006-10-14 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 13 October 2006 18:56, maxim wexler wrote: Hello group, Interesting discussion here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-478783.html What does the group think? -Maxim I am not 'the group' but I am using etc-update. It is all that I need. I tried dispatch-conf once and it was

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update vs dispatch-conf

2006-10-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 11:46:16 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Why? No need for that. etc-update covers all my needs - I don't have stupid fingers... My fingers aren't stupid, but they can be downright disobedient at times :( I prefer dispatch-conf, but not for the RCS feature, rdiff-backup

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update vs dispatch-conf

2006-10-13 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 13 October 2006 11:56, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] etc-update vs dispatch-conf': Interesting discussion here: I didn't read it, but after I heard about dispatch-conf, I set it up to use RCS and turned on all the auto-merge options and never looked back.

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update vs dispatch-conf

2006-10-13 Thread Justin Patrin
On 10/13/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 13 October 2006 11:56, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] etc-update vs dispatch-conf': Interesting discussion here: I didn't read it, but after I heard about dispatch-conf, I set it up to use RCS and

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update vs dispatch-conf

2006-10-13 Thread Mark Shields
On 10/13/06, Justin Patrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/13/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 13 October 2006 11:56, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] etc-update vs dispatch-conf': Interesting discussion here: I didn't read it, but after I

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update vs dispatch-conf

2006-10-13 Thread maxim wexler
dispatch-conf is just a more robust and full-featured system for updating config files. I read the first page of that discussion and it seems most of those who use etc-update haven't tried dispatch-conf. The rest feel they don't need the added features. IMHO dispatch-conf should be the

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update: what's the meaning of using_editor setting?

2006-09-09 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2006 September 09 Saturday 11:06:21 PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: Hello! In /etc/etc-update.conf, there's the using_editor= (with 0 and 1, for false and true) setting. What's that supposed to mean? What does it do? When should it be set to 1 (true) and when to 0? What's an

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-07-02 Thread Alexander Skwar
Gerhard Hoogterp wrote: On Thursday 29 June 2006 18:09, A. Khattri wrote: On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, David Corbin wrote: I don't see why use other tool. Etc-update works great... It works great, But the interface sucks. What exactly sucks? Be specific rather than making some vague sweeping

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-29 Thread A. Khattri
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, Alexander Skwar wrote: A. Khattri wrote: For example, looking at diffs using vim via etc-update is easier to read than dispatch-conf. The fact that dispatch-conf can use archiving is nice but it uses the (archaic) rcs tool to do it. For me, seeing the diffs

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-29 Thread A. Khattri
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, David Corbin wrote: I don't see why use other tool. Etc-update works great... It works great, But the interface sucks. What exactly sucks? Be specific rather than making some vague sweeping statement. -- A -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-29 Thread A. Khattri
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, Philip Webb wrote: Even if you're not normally a Vim user, this shows the diffs very clearly allows you to copy your personal changes from old to new versions. Vim is great for looking at diffs and copying between config files. Anyone hacked dispath-conf to use cvs/svn

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:38:49 +0200, Gerhard Hoogterp wrote: The interface oh well.. but what I dislike about etc-update (and it's replacements afaik) is this tendency to want to restore files to their original state.. One keypress to many, one moment of not paying enough attention an

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-29 Thread David Corbin
On Thursday 29 June 2006 12:09 pm, A. Khattri wrote: On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, David Corbin wrote: I don't see why use other tool. Etc-update works great... It works great, But the interface sucks. What exactly sucks? Be specific rather than making some vague sweeping statement. The action

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-29 Thread Tamas Sarga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daevid Vincent wrote: I use Meld as well. It's outstanding. But like you, I want to use a 'console' diff program for my remote servers (that don't have X installed). I've looked for a HOWTO or quick tutorial on vimdiff and couldn't find one.

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-29 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 29 June 2006 23:42, David Corbin wrote: I wonder if something could be done with digital signatures, so that it only pestered you about files you've edited. That's something dispatch-conf can do. From /etc/dispatch-conf (note the default is no): # Automerge files that the user

RE: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-28 Thread Daevid Vincent
basically. DÆVID -Original Message- From: Bo Ørsted Andresen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:38 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update On Monday 26 June 2006 16:24, Alexander Skwar wrote: Hm. Why? What's bad about etc

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Monday 26 June 2006 14:36, Sean wrote: What is the best way to handle the files that etc-update states needs to be updated? There are three competing utilities for this purpose. The official etc-update (which sucks and should have been deprecated a long time ago... ;) ), dispatch-conf and

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread Alexander Skwar
Sean wrote: What is the best way to handle the files that etc-update states needs to be updated? Check them. It displays a list of all the files that need updating, but does it actually put this list into a file anywhere Not to my knowledge. so that I can manually look them over to

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread Alexander Skwar
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Monday 26 June 2006 14:36, Sean wrote: What is the best way to handle the files that etc-update states needs to be updated? There are three competing utilities for this purpose. The official etc-update (which sucks and should have been deprecated a long time

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread A. Khattri
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: There are three competing utilities for this purpose. The official etc-update (which sucks and should have been deprecated a long time ago... ;) ), dispatch-conf and cfg-update. Actually all the update tools have pros and cons. For example,

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Monday 26 June 2006 16:29, A. Khattri wrote: For example, looking at diffs using vim via etc-update is easier to read than dispatch-conf. The fact that dispatch-conf can use archiving is nice but it uses the (archaic) rcs tool to do it. For me, seeing the diffs clearly is more important...

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 6/26/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 26 June 2006 14:36, Sean wrote: What is the best way to handle the files that etc-update states needs to be updated? There are three competing utilities for this purpose. The official etc-update (which sucks and should have

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread Teresa and Dale
Daniel da Veiga wrote: On 6/26/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 26 June 2006 14:36, Sean wrote: What is the best way to handle the files that etc-update states needs to be updated? There are three competing utilities for this purpose. The official etc-update

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:59:09 -0500, Teresa and Dale wrote: I don't see why use other tool. Etc-update works great... I've been using it since my first Gentoo install 2 years ago and never needed (neither bothered looking for) this other tools you mentioned. If you haven't tried them, you

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread Teresa and Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:59:09 -0500, Teresa and Dale wrote: I don't see why use other tool. Etc-update works great... I've been using it since my first Gentoo install 2 years ago and never needed (neither bothered looking for) this other tools you mentioned. If

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread A. Khattri
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Monday 26 June 2006 16:29, A. Khattri wrote: For example, looking at diffs using vim via etc-update is easier to read than dispatch-conf. The fact that dispatch-conf can use archiving is nice but it uses the (archaic) rcs tool to do it.

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread A. Khattri
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, Teresa and Dale wrote: I also seem to recall that dispatch-conf didn't keep back-ups on mine. I had the directory but it was always empty even after a lot of updates. You know of any reason for that? Is use-rcs=yes in /etc/dispath-conf.conf ? -- A --

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread Alexander Skwar
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Monday 26 June 2006 16:24, Alexander Skwar wrote: Hm. Why? What's bad about etc-update? I dislike using diff. Hm. dispatch-conf uses diff as well and etc-update can be configured to use a different program. On my desktop I use meld (all graphical) and on my

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Monday 26 June 2006 19:28, A. Khattri wrote: For me, seeing the diffs clearly is more important... Why would you think that cfg-update and dispatch-conf cannot show you the diffs? Vim diff? Was that a question?! diff is the default. I have used vimdiff, kompare and now I'm using

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread Alexander Skwar
A. Khattri wrote: For example, looking at diffs using vim via etc-update is easier to read than dispatch-conf. The fact that dispatch-conf can use archiving is nice but it uses the (archaic) rcs tool to do it. For me, seeing the diffs clearly is more important... ACK But dispatch-conf uses

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread Teresa and Dale
A. Khattri wrote: On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, Teresa and Dale wrote: I also seem to recall that dispatch-conf didn't keep back-ups on mine. I had the directory but it was always empty even after a lot of updates. You know of any reason for that? Is use-rcs=yes in /etc/dispath-conf.conf ?

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread Philip Webb
060626 Sean wrote: What is the best way to handle the files that etc-update states needs to be updated? You provoked a bit of a debate (smile), but in case it's still not clear, I've long used Etc-update with Gvim as defined in /etc/etc-update.conf : # pager for use with diff commands (see

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread leszek
Le lundi 26 juin 2006 à 08:36 -0400, Sean a écrit : What is the best way to handle the files that etc-update states needs to be updated? I use dispatch-conf with color highlighting the big advantage of dispatch-conf is that you can configure it to replace config files that you didn't modify

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update

2006-06-26 Thread David Corbin
I don't see why use other tool. Etc-update works great... It works great, But the interface sucks. I've been using it since my first Gentoo install 2 years ago and never needed (neither bothered looking for) this other tools you mentioned. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update after 'emerge -e world'

2005-12-06 Thread Grant
On 12/5/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I 'emerge sync' and 'emerge -DuN world' daily so why did 'emerge -e system' and 'emerge -e world' (for the GCC upgrade) each come up with a bunch of etc files to be updated via etc-update? - Grant Because emerge -e re-installs every package

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update after 'emerge -e world'

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Fairles
Grant wrote: I 'emerge sync' and 'emerge -DuN world' daily so why did 'emerge -e system' and 'emerge -e world' (for the GCC upgrade) each come up with a bunch of etc files to be updated via etc-update? - Grant Missed a few last time around? If you made your own changes it might be trying

Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update after 'emerge -e world'

2005-12-05 Thread Michael Crute
On 12/5/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I 'emerge sync' and 'emerge -DuN world' daily so why did 'emerge -e system' and 'emerge -e world' (for the GCC upgrade) each come up with a bunch of etc files to be updated via etc-update? - Grant Because emerge -e re-installs every package on your