Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 12 February 2011 01:39:44 Keith Dart wrote: Start by resetting to all defaults.. ;-) That was the obvious first step. Many motherboards these days support unsafe settings (overclocking, etc.) Yes, this one does, but I've never used them. if you haven't already. I have, as you

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-12 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Sat, 02/12, Peter Humphrey wrote: === That was the obvious first step. === Well then, I would use this as an excuse to get a nice new system. ;-) -- Keith Dart -- -- ~ Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz public

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 12 February 2011 21:53:36 Keith Dart wrote: Well then, I would use this as an excuse to get a nice new system. ;-) Nice idea. It's only a year old though, and I could hardly justify the expense then. Thanks anyway. -- Rgds Peter

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 08 February 2011 01:00:11 Keith Dart wrote: That really sounds like flaky hardware, possibly bad memory. try running memtest86+. Let it run overnight. That's what I thought. I have run memtest86+ overnight, but of course it didn't find anything. As Gentoo seems to be immune to

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-11 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Fri, 02/11, Peter Humphrey wrote: === As Gentoo seems to be immune to this problem, I assume that other kernels are setting some parameters that push the hardware to its limit, so the next thing I'll try is to detune the performance somewhat. Trouble is, the BIOS setup screens have so

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 04 February 2011 18:12:50 Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: At the risk of hijacking the thread, this reminds me of a problem on my workstation. It runs Gentoo fine (well, sluggishly) but when I installed Fedora 14

[OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-04 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 03 February 2011 08:14:21 Dale wrote: I'm just glad to have something that doesn't kill my mouse and keyboard. ;-) At the risk of hijacking the thread, this reminds me of a problem on my workstation. It runs Gentoo fine (well, sluggishly) but when I installed Fedora 14 to try it,

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-04 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2011 08:14:21 Dale wrote: I'm just glad to have something that doesn't kill my mouse and keyboard. ;-) At the risk of hijacking the thread, this reminds me of a problem on my

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-03 Thread KH
Am 03.02.2011 00:20, schrieb Brian Waters: Anyway, I digress. Maybe I'll start a thread on that when the time comes. - BW Hi, you might want to take a look at the forums: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-highlight-.html Regards kh -- _ ASCII ribbon

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-03 Thread Dale
Brian Waters wrote: On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:41 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: In GIMP under the file menu, there is a option to get pictures from a camera. I have never used that but I guess that is where hal comes in. It may be something else but that is all I could find.

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-03 Thread Jacques Montier
Le 02/02/2011 23:59, Brian Waters a écrit : Hi there. I recently took a few months off from Gentoo to try Ubuntu (I heard it just works, and that is a Good Thing) only to find that I'd much rather be back on Gentoo again. (The fact that Ubuntu ships with PulseAudio means that sound it

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Brian Waters brianmwat...@gmail.com wrote: [...] So I'm wondering what versions of udev and X server (and any other packages, dbus maybe?) I need to unmask in order to get rid of the HAL dependency. Using GNOME, the only package that depends by default on HAL

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Brian Waters
Thanks Canek, that's perfect because for this upcoming install I'm planning on using acpid for power management anyway. I don't think power management is something that should run as a regular logged in user, and it causes problems like your laptop not sleeping when you're logged out with the

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Brian Waters brianmwat...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there. I recently took a few months off from Gentoo to try Ubuntu (I heard it just works, and that is a Good Thing) only to find that I'd much rather be back on Gentoo again. (The fact that Ubuntu ships with

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Dale
Brian Waters wrote: Hi there. I recently took a few months off from Gentoo to try Ubuntu (I heard it just works, and that is a Good Thing) only to find that I'd much rather be back on Gentoo again. (The fact that Ubuntu ships with PulseAudio means that sound it basically broken out of the box,

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:59 on Thursday 03 February 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Brian Waters wrote: Hi there. I recently took a few months off from Gentoo to try Ubuntu (I heard it just works, and that is a Good Thing) only to find that I'd much rather be back on Gentoo again.

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Brian Waters
I can't imagine why the GIMP would depend on HAL... lol. And for the record, yes, I am not on Gentoo right now. - BW On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 01:59 on Thursday 03 February 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Brian

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Dale
Brian Waters wrote: I can't imagine why the GIMP would depend on HAL... lol. And for the record, yes, I am not on Gentoo right now. - BW In GIMP under the file menu, there is a option to get pictures from a camera. I have never used that but I guess that is where hal comes in. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Brian Waters
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:41 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: In GIMP under the file menu, there is a option to get pictures from a camera.  I have never used that but I guess that is where hal comes in.  It may be something else but that is all I could find. Christ, it's like .dll hell all

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Philip Webb
110202 Brian Waters wrote: I recently took a few months off from Gentoo to try Ubuntu -- I heard it just works and that is a Good Thing -- only to find that I'd much rather be back on Gentoo again. When I set up my little EEE netbook 2009 , I considered alternatives, but quickly decided that