Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome calendar - Start on Sunday instead of Saturday?
Mark Knecht schreef: Hi, Title says it. My wife wants to configure this item and I cannot find the control of it in the preferences page. Anyone know how to make it start on Sunday instead? Thanks, Mark I'm sorry not to be more precise, but I suspect that I may not have the calendar application you are using. But here is what I found: 1. emerge (or run if installed, but it's now a separate package, and I didn't have it, amazingly) gconf-editor. 2. in gconf-editor, go to / = apps = evolution = calendar (this of course assumes that evo controls the calendar, which it well might, since I don't have evo or eds installed and I still have this settings tree) = display 3. In the display tree (items shown now in the right pane), change week_start_day from 1 (Monday, which is what must be the default, as that's what mine is set to and I've never touched it) to 0 (which represents Sunday, as the text will tell you). I suppose there's an easier way to do this (perhaps if you have Evolution installed, you can change it in their prefs setting), and perhaps this is in fact not the setting that controls the calendar, but I hope it is, and I hope it helps. If not, trawl through gconf-editor and see if anything else looks relevant (for example, if you know the name of the calendar application, it probably has a settings tree in gconf-editor). HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mysterious dev-lang/php 'n' junk 'n' stuff....
gentuxx schreef: Hi all, snip I went to do an `emerge -Duatv world` tonight, and I get dev-php/php and dev-php/mod_php blocking. So I uninstalled them, and thought that I would re-install later (if necessary). When I run it again, I get dev-lang/php blocking dev-php/php-4.4.0-r4 (which is the one I just unemerged). So, same logical progression, I go to unemerge dev-lang/php, and, lo and behold, it's not installed. snip So, my questions to the group are these: 1) Why does `emerge -Duatv world` find a package (which blocks another that it wants to update) that `emerge -CDatv world` does NOT find? As far as I know, emerge -CDatv world is not even a valid command (at least I hope it isn't). This translates to emerge --unmerge --deep --ask --tree --verbose world, and it seems to me would unmerge everything on your system if it was allowed. The usual use for --unmerge is to tell Portage what you specifically want to unmerge; this should not be an automatic function (except in the case of repair utilities such as depclean, which even those give you a HUGE warning that unmerging random --as in not pre-specified by the user, but determined by a script-- packages automatically can break the system). The actual answer to your question, though, is that the blocking package is not a problem unless you want to emerge something that it blocks. So of course it's not going to be noticed until you attempt to perform such an action (emerging a package that is blocked by the installed package). 2) How do I rectify this little version discrepancy fixed so that I can get things updating normally again? Iirc from several threads recently, there are one or more packages on your system that rely on php which must be updated to ~arch, or else they keep trying to bring in PHP4 (only the ~arch version can depend on PHP5; the stable versions have a fixed dependency on PHP4). I don't remember which programs they are, but if you don't feel like searching the archives, you can look at your tree view to see what is actually pulling in PHP4, upgrading that (or keywording it to unstable, rather) and see if you still get the block. Hope this helps, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [POLL] portage-2.1 USE flag ordering
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:47:29 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: I have the above URL showing the Forum topic on Konqueror 3.5 there is no choice to click nor any submit button: yes, I logged in. Strange. Well, you should be able to find it near the top of the Portage Programming forum. Well, that gets the same topic still no buttons to click. However, it does work with Firefox, so perhaps it's a javascript issue. Are you really logging in? I foundI was no longer able to log in with Konqqueror. It accepted my login/password with no errors, but still showed me as a guest. The solution was to delete all cookies for forums.gentoo.org. Then I could log in properly and vote. -- Neil Bothwick This screen intentionally left blank. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Boot System Setup
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:23:51 -0600, Dale wrote: If grub gets hosed, you can boot a Win 98 CD or a boot floppy and run fdisk /mbr on it. I recently took a hard drive of mine out of a friends computer that was dual booting and that was what I did. Now windoze XP boots up like Linux was never there. I'm not sure if you can do that from the win XP CD or not though. You can, but the command is now fixmbr. -- Neil Bothwick Politically Incorrect -- and damn proud of it! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] Dual Boot System Setup
-Original Message- From: Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 January 2006 06:24 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Boot System Setup If grub gets hosed, you can boot a Win 98 CD or a boot floppy and run fdisk /mbr on it. I recently took a hard drive of mine out of a friends computer that was dual booting and that was what I did. Now windoze XP boots up like Linux was never there. I'm not sure if you can do that from the win XP CD or not though. I'm not a windoze person. I don't have and never had windoze, ever. The command fixmbr ran with the WinXP installation CD will reinstall the M$Windoze boot code in the MBR. Similarly the command fixboot will rewrite the partition boot sector if by mistake Grub was installed in the WinXP partition boot sector instead of the MBR. A lot of people unnecessarily reinstall M$Windoze when either of these two little tips could save the day. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] composing fancy html in kmail
-Original Message- From: Robert Persson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 January 2006 00:46 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] composing fancy html in kmail I want to send an email with both embedded thumbnail images and external hyperlinks. My email client is kmail. What I want to do is certainly impossible with the kmail editor, however kmail gives you the option of using an external editor. Is there any way I can do what I want and get the result, complete with embedded images and hyperlinks, back into kmail for sending? If not, is there another email client which will allow me to do what I want - ideally one that will allow me to work in a joined up way like you can with kontact, evolution, m-ess outlook etc? I can't remember if Thunderbird has a GUI for HTML editing (never used it), but have you tried using applications like Quanta+ or even OOo as an external editor to kmail? Alternatively, would something like Vim/kate/etc. work, but you will need to write your own HTML tags and also change the mail header in kmail to reflect the fact that this is a multipart text/html message (not sure how to do this). I am not at my machine to try any of the above, but please post back if you can get it working. Some times HTML tags are more useful to convey information than plain text. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Boot System Setup
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:23:51 -0600, Dale wrote: If grub gets hosed, you can boot a Win 98 CD or a boot floppy and run fdisk /mbr on it. I recently took a hard drive of mine out of a friends computer that was dual booting and that was what I did. Now windoze XP boots up like Linux was never there. I'm not sure if you can do that from the win XP CD or not though. You can, but the command is now fixmbr. Good to know that. I learned something today. Now I can go to bed. :-) Oh, just so you know, my ISP got the email sorted out and my connection problems too. They called in a guru and he worked on some other problems first then tackled my email problem. I no longer connect to Qwest network. I connect to datasync and they have it set up correctly for me and Mozilla. Now to finish downloading the new Open Office with a 26K connection. O_O Dale goes to cry himself to sleep Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome calendar - Start on Sunday instead of Saturday?
Le mercredi 25 janvier 2006 à 09:39 +0100, Holly Bostick a écrit : I'm sorry not to be more precise, but I suspect that I may not have the calendar application you are using. But here is what I found: I guess he speaks of the calendar which appears when you left-click on the clock-applet. 2. in gconf-editor, go to / = apps = evolution = calendar (this of course assumes that evo controls the calendar, which it well might, since I don't have evo or eds installed and I still have this settings tree) = display My evolution calendar starts weeks on monday, and my clock-applet calendar make them start on sunday, so I guess this calendar is not the one controlled by evolution :=( Fred -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] usb wacom tablet
Hello Robert, Robert Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 12:38 -0330, Roger Mason wrote: Hello, [snip] Can anyone suggest what may be wrong? Thanks, Roger Mason It doen't look like you have USB HID turned on in your kernel. Here is what I have for the USB portion of my kernel config: CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_OHCI=y CONFIG_USB=y CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=m CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD=m CONFIG_USB_OHCI_LITTLE_ENDIAN=y CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=m CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=m CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=m CONFIG_USB_HID=m CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y CONFIG_USB_WACOM=m CONFIG_USB_EGALAX=m If that doesn't work, maybe try to plug it directly into the computer instead of the hub. I've had devices not like being plugged into a hub before. [snip] For what it's worth, here is what I have showing up in dmesg when I plug my tablet in: ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2 input: Wacom Intuos2 6x8 on usb-:00:02.0-1 Robert -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Thanks for your reply. After I posted the message I figured out that HID support was required. That was not the only problem - it worked (at least it shows up in /proc/...) only when I added the ohci and uhci drivers. My mistake, I got idea that only ehci was needed because that is what my NEC controlled card uses. Now to set the appropriate entries in xorg.conf. Thanks again, Roger -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] cfengine any one?
I saw cfengine mentioned here: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/infrastructure/server-standards.xml But my searching thru the forums and cfengines website arent yielding the kind of result Id expect: What are its features Screenshots? How to configure/setup (if its what Im looking for) My goals are to try and keep multiple production servers up-to-date and running with out having to manually emerge packages every day and especially having to do etc-update
[gentoo-user] meld dependencies
Hi I am a KDE 3.5 user and do not want GNOME since i don't use it. The best diff application that I know of is Meld (I have tried kdiff3, kompare, gtkdiff, tkdiff and of course diff). Meld is a GNOME and Python application and depends on among others gnome-python and gnome-python-extras. Hence Meld pulls in a LOT of packages including gnome-panel, gnome-themes, totem and nautilus (I've counted 50 packages that would be removed if I did uninstalled meld). Therefore I decided I would remove some of the packages that obviously are not necessary. I did this by copying meld, gnome-python and gnome-python-extras to an overlay and removing dependencies that I knew wasn't necessary (I put in a gnome use flag, which I have disabled and let them depend on that use flag). The following shows the packages that I have removed and meld is still working as intended (of course a lot of them are deep dependencies so the packages I actually removed through the ebuilds are a lot fewer): [ebuild N] gnome-extra/gtkhtml-3.8.2 -debug -static 1,218 kB [ebuild N]net-libs/libsoup-2.2.7 -debug -doc +ssl -static 430 kB [ebuild N] media-video/totem-1.2.1 -a52 -debug +dvd +flac -gnome +lirc +mad +mpeg -nsplugin +ogg -theora +vorbis +win32codecs +xine +xv 0 kB [ebuild N]app-text/iso-codes-0.49 3,612 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/pyxml-0.8.4 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner-2.12.2 +cdr -debug -dvdr -hal -static 0 kB [ebuild N]gnome-base/nautilus-2.12.2 +X -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/librsvg-2.12.7 -debug -doc -gnome -nsplugin +zlib 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-libs/libcroco-0.6.0 -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.1 +bzip2 -debug -doc -gnome -static 0 kB [ebuild N]gnome-base/eel-2.12.2 +X -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-util/desktop-file-utils-0.10 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/gail-1.8.8 -debug -doc 568 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/libgtop-2.12.2 +X -debug +gdbm -static 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/libgnomeprintui-2.12.1 -debug -doc 631 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.12.2 -debug -doc -eds 0 kB [ebuild N]gnome-base/gnome-menus-2.12.0-r1 -debug 0 kB [ebuild N]gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.12.2 -debug 0 kB [ebuild N]app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.4.4 -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.12.1 -accessibility -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.12.1 -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.8 0 kB Now the problem is that when I run emerge meld -uvpD it wants to pull in three of them, and I cannot figure out why: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# emerge meld -uvpDt These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.12.1 -accessibility -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.12.1 -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.8 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# equery d gnome-themes [ Searching for packages depending on gnome-themes... ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# equery d gnome-icon-theme [ Searching for packages depending on gnome-icon-theme... ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# equery d hicolor-icon-theme [ Searching for packages depending on hicolor-icon-theme... ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# Does anyone have any ideas for finding out why they're pulled in? I have posted the output of emerge --info below. Any help is appreciated. /Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# emerge --info Portage 2.0.54 (default-linux/x86/2005.0, gcc-3.4.5, glibc-2.3.5-r2, 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 i686) = System uname: 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1600MHz Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14 dev-lang/python: 2.3.5-r2, 2.4.2 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.12 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r6 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 AUTOCLEAN=yes CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-march=pentium-m -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gconf /etc/env.d CXXFLAGS=-march=pentium-m -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo/ http://mirror.uni-c.dk/gentoo/
Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh
Uwe Thiem wrote: On 25 January 2006 06:46, Tom Smith wrote: I read something some time ago that suggested if you transfer a compressed file over a compressed SFTP connection, for example, that it would take longer to transfer the data versus if only the data or the connection was compressed. The reason, as I recall, had to do with compressing already compressed data--this apparently created some overhead on the connection. What is a compressed sftp connection? Uwe In ssh, sftp, scp you can use the -C option to enable compression. This simply (de)compresses, on the fly, the data being transferred between the client and the server computer. It's generally suggested for use over slow connections (such as dial-ups) but I've experienced performance improvements in X11 forwarding, and some data transfers, when using it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mysterious dev-lang/php 'n' junk 'n' stuff....
On 25 January 2006 09:50, gentuxx wrote: I went to do an `emerge -Duatv world` tonight, and I get dev-php/php and dev-php/mod_php blocking. So I uninstalled them, and thought that I would re-install later (if necessary). When I run it again, I get dev-lang/php blocking dev-php/php-4.4.0-r4 (which is the one I just unemerged). So, same logical progression, I go to unemerge dev-lang/php, and, lo and behold, it's not installed. I vaguely remembered that the portage crew did some tinkering with the portage tree when PHP5 came out, and it had something to do with the whole dev-php/php-dev-lang/php issue. So, my questions to the group are these: 1) Why does `emerge -Duatv world` find a package (which blocks another that it wants to update) that `emerge -CDatv world` does NOT find? 2) How do I rectify this little version discrepancy fixed so that I can get things updating normally again? I solved it for me by emerge --unmerge php and emerge dev-lang/php. Uwe -- Unix is sexy: who | grep -i blonde | date cd ~; unzip; touch; strip; finger mount; gasp; yes; uptime; umount sleep -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh
Trenton Adams wrote: Not possible on a windows machine. :P Wrong. Alexander Skwar -- printk(KERN_WARNING Warning: defective CD-ROM (volume sequence number). Enabling \cruft\ mount option.\n); linux-2.2.16/fs/isofs/inode.c -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh
I read something some time ago that suggested if you transfer a compressed file over a compressed SFTP connection, for example, that it would take longer to transfer the data versus if only the data or the connection was compressed. The reason, as I recall, had to do with compressing already compressed data--this apparently created some overhead on the connection. Did you look at this situation in your tests? If so, what were the results? No, I see absolutely no reason to use sftp. Just scp. By default, compression is off on that, unless you've modified your ssh_conf. But I have heard the same thing about doubly-compressing things. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Module names???
Hi all, A simple question, where do I find out modules names? I've currently got menconfig loaded and trying to decide as to whether to go static or module. My problem is that I can't find the names of the modules for most of the options hence how do I know what to load if it is a module. For exmaple, if I want to use the XFS file system, in the menuconfig help it says: ... choose M here; the module will be called xfs... Conversly if I want to use AES encryption there is nothing in the help that tells me what the module name will be. If anyone can inform me where I can find these module names, it would be greatly appreciated. I don't know why they aren't all placed in the help in the first place. Regards, Andrew -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] modules PID
how do I find out the PID of a module? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Module names???
Andrew Lowe schreef: Hi all, A simple question, where do I find out modules names? I've currently got menconfig loaded and trying to decide as to whether to go static or module. My problem is that I can't find the names of the modules for most of the options hence how do I know what to load if it is a module. For exmaple, if I want to use the XFS file system, in the menuconfig help it says: ... choose M here; the module will be called xfs... Conversly if I want to use AES encryption there is nothing in the help that tells me what the module name will be. To some degree, they are: The title of the help for the option usually includes something closely related to the module name. For CONFIG_CRYPTO_AES_586 I would guess that the module name might well be aes-586. Apparently there's a 64-bit module as well, but it may be that that doesn't appear in my kernel config because I have already specified that I don't have a 64-bit CPU. In any case, the format for the help title is CONFIG_GROUPNAME_SOMETHING_LIKE_THE_MODULE_NAME (but module names usually use hyphens where the kernel config uses underscores). However, you most likely will not need to load the modules manually anyway; assuming you have automatic kernel module loading enabled, the kernel will load necessary modules when it notices that they are necessary (when a device using the module is detected and initialized). Also, I would not myself think that encryption is the kind of thing you'd want to load only some of the time (so I'd compile it statically anyway). Thirdly, are you sure that all of the options that you're looking for the module names for are capable of being compiled as modules? Some aren't. In the case that you don't know (it could happen :-) ), options appearing with brackets ([ ]) can only be compiled statically; options appearing with greater-than/less-than signs ( ) can be compiled either statically or as modules. So it's also possible that some of the help doesn't contain module names simply because the option cannot be compiled as a loadable module. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Module names???
Andrew Lowe wrote: snip If anyone can inform me where I can find these module names, it would be greatly appreciated. I don't know why they aren't all placed in the help in the first place. Regards, Andrew It does tell you. You even put it in your email. ;-) If you build xfs as a module, you need to load the module, xfs. That's it. If after you get done you need to know what modules are available to load, modprobe -l , thats a lower case L by the way, should list them for you. Here is mine: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # modprobe -l /lib/modules/2.6.14-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/hwmon/w83627hf.ko /lib/modules/2.6.14-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/hwmon/hwmon-vid.ko /lib/modules/2.6.14-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-isa.ko /lib/modules/2.6.14-gentoo-r5/video/nvidia.ko [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I don't like modules to much but I used to have to reset my sensors since they would lock up sometimes. They have fixed it now so next time, it will be built in like everything else. Hope that helps, Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [POLL] portage-2.1 USE flag ordering
060125 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:47:29 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: I have the above URL showing the Forum topic on Konqueror 3.5 there is no choice to click nor submit button: yes, I logged in. Strange. Well, you should be able to find it near the top of the Portage Programming forum. Well, that gets the same topic still no buttons to click. However, it does work with Firefox, so perhaps it's a javascript issue. Are you really logging in? I found I was unable to log in with Konqueror. It accepted my login/password with no errors, but showed me as guest. The solution was to delete all cookies for forums.gentoo.org. Then I could log in properly and vote. Yes, that was probably what I was experiencing: I voted with Firefox. Generally, Firefox is more practical for typical Internet activities, but it slowly eats memory tends to abuse CPU with flash installed; if I uninstall flash, I may not be able to see things I want, eg astronomy animations, so my compromise is to use Konqueror (smile). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] modules PID
On 1/25/06, Cláudio Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do I find out the PID of a module? What kind of module? kernel modules have no process ID, because they are not a process. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh
It brings me great joy to know that my original post has spawned such madness. :-) John Jolet wrote: I read something some time ago that suggested if you transfer a compressed file over a compressed SFTP connection, for example, that it would take longer to transfer the data versus if only the data or the connection was compressed. The reason, as I recall, had to do with compressing already compressed data--this apparently created some overhead on the connection. Did you look at this situation in your tests? If so, what were the results? No, I see absolutely no reason to use sftp. Just scp. By default, compression is off on that, unless you've modified your ssh_conf. But I have heard the same thing about doubly-compressing things. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Han Solo: Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Building Kernel Modules with custom kernel trees
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:00:01 +, Alex Bennee wrote: There really is no need to force people to build as root under /usr/src so is it possible to educate portage to use the uname method to determine the root of the kernel tree for building kernel modules? Portage doesn't build the modules in /usr/src, but it uses the /usr/src/linux symlink to determine the kernel for which you wish to build the modules; which may not be the same as returned by uname -r. And that is a bug, in my opinion. -- Hilsen Harald. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] meld dependencies
Hi, On (25/01/06 13:24), Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: Hi I am a KDE 3.5 user and do not want GNOME since i don't use it. The best diff application that I know of is Meld (I have tried kdiff3, kompare, gtkdiff, tkdiff and of course diff). Meld is a GNOME and Python application and depends on among others gnome-python and gnome-python-extras. Hence Meld pulls in a LOT of packages including gnome-panel, gnome-themes, totem and nautilus (I've counted 50 packages that would be removed if I did uninstalled meld). Therefore I decided I would remove some of the packages that obviously are not necessary. I did this by copying meld, gnome-python and gnome-python-extras to an overlay and removing dependencies that I knew wasn't necessary (I put in a gnome use flag, which I have disabled and let them depend on that use flag). The following shows the packages that I have removed and meld is still working as intended (of course a lot of them are deep dependencies so the packages I actually removed through the ebuilds are a lot fewer): [ebuild N] gnome-extra/gtkhtml-3.8.2 -debug -static 1,218 kB [ebuild N]net-libs/libsoup-2.2.7 -debug -doc +ssl -static 430 kB [ebuild N] media-video/totem-1.2.1 -a52 -debug +dvd +flac -gnome +lirc +mad +mpeg -nsplugin +ogg -theora +vorbis +win32codecs +xine +xv 0 kB [ebuild N]app-text/iso-codes-0.49 3,612 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/pyxml-0.8.4 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner-2.12.2 +cdr -debug -dvdr -hal -static 0 kB [ebuild N]gnome-base/nautilus-2.12.2 +X -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/librsvg-2.12.7 -debug -doc -gnome -nsplugin +zlib 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-libs/libcroco-0.6.0 -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.1 +bzip2 -debug -doc -gnome -static 0 kB [ebuild N]gnome-base/eel-2.12.2 +X -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-util/desktop-file-utils-0.10 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/gail-1.8.8 -debug -doc 568 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/libgtop-2.12.2 +X -debug +gdbm -static 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/libgnomeprintui-2.12.1 -debug -doc 631 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.12.2 -debug -doc -eds 0 kB [ebuild N]gnome-base/gnome-menus-2.12.0-r1 -debug 0 kB [ebuild N]gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.12.2 -debug 0 kB [ebuild N]app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.4.4 -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.12.1 -accessibility -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.12.1 -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.8 0 kB Now the problem is that when I run emerge meld -uvpD it wants to pull in three of them, and I cannot figure out why: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# emerge meld -uvpDt These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.12.1 -accessibility -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.12.1 -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.8 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# equery d gnome-themes [ Searching for packages depending on gnome-themes... ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# equery d gnome-icon-theme [ Searching for packages depending on gnome-icon-theme... ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# equery d hicolor-icon-theme [ Searching for packages depending on hicolor-icon-theme... ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# Does anyone have any ideas for finding out why they're pulled in? I have posted the output of emerge --info below. Any help is appreciated. /Bo ...SKIP... Here're direct dependecies of 'meld': dev-util/meld-1.1.2: =dev-lang/python-2.2dev-lang/python-2.4.2 =dev-python/gnome-python-1.99.15 dev-python/gnome-python-2.12.1 =dev-python/pygtk-1.99.15 dev-python/pygtk-2.8.2 =dev-python/pyorbit-1.99.0 dev-python/pyorbit-2.0.1 =gnome-base/libglade-2 gnome-base/libglade-2.5.1 =gnome-base/libgnome-2 gnome-base/libgnome-2.12.0.1 =sys-apps/sed-4 sys-apps/sed-4.1.4 dev-python/gnome-python-extras dev-python/gnome-python-extras-2.12.0 !bootstrap? sys-devel/patch sys-devel/patch-2.5.9-r1 ...END... Quite none of them are conditional USE flag controlled app exept patch ('bootstrap'). So some of these apps probably fetches these three new packages. For any deps you can directly check the ebuild file (DEPEND|RDEPEND). HTH.Rumen
Re: [gentoo-user] Error message on kde startup
On Tuesday 24 Jan 2006 17:45, Manuel McLure wrote: Paul wrote: Hi all, Recently I had to update about 24 packages, all went well and any config files were updated. However, I now have a problem when kde starts, I get an error-kdesktop message saying The KDE Mediamanager is not running In the control Centre - Service Manager under startup Services the KDED Media Manager has a status of Not Running. If I try to start it manually I just get a message saying Unable to start service. I just don't know what to try next - any suggestions? Just got this last night - the problem is that the new dbus/hal changed the shared library they use. revdep-rebuild should solve the problem (in my case it made me rebuild kioslaves and k3b.) revdep-rebuild solved the problem Thanks to all who replied Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] modules PID
well, let me describe the problem. sometimes, when I try to synchronize my Palm, pilot-xfer throws a error, and the devices /dev/tts/USBn do not disappear. if it happens repeatedly... well, I guess the scene is painted. I thought it could solve it killing the module. I have tried modprobe -rf visor but visor do not want to die. any ideas? On 1/25/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/25/06, Cláudio Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do I find out the PID of a module? What kind of module? kernel modules have no process ID, because they are not a process. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Building Kernel Modules with custom kernel trees
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:05:21 +0100, Harald Arnesen wrote: Portage doesn't build the modules in /usr/src, but it uses the /usr/src/linux symlink to determine the kernel for which you wish to build the modules; which may not be the same as returned by uname -r. And that is a bug, in my opinion. It provides the opportunity to build modules for a new kernel before booting into it, which uname -r does not. -- Neil Bothwick Trekkers work out in the `He's Dead Gym'. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] modules PID
Hi Cláudio, on Wednesday, 2006-01-25 at 13:47:21, you wrote: I thought it could solve it killing the module. I have tried modprobe -rf visor but visor do not want to die. any ideas? Do you have forced module unloading enabled in your kernel? If you do, it's probably a problem in the module itself that can't be solved without hacking the source. regards Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665 Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0 8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665 pgpTiPIaX1Cto.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate mouse clicks??
Hi, Since hardware is involved, Did you check: 1 - With another USB mouse ? 2 - With your mouse on a different USB port ? I know it seems evident but it's just to be sure that your problem is a software one and not a hardware one. Le 25 janv. 06 à 16:38, Paul a écrit : Hi all, Recently I have been having a problem with my usb mouse actions. In kmail when deleting messages using the bin icon sometimes 2 messages will be deleted instead of 1. Sometimes when reading messages another instance will appear in a separate window. Sometimes I have to click a number of time to raise the menu. If I exit out of a program (file exit) the program exits but the desktop icon underneath gets activated. It's almost like 2 clicks are happening instead of 1. KDE is set up for single click. This has only started happening within the last week. I'm sure this will turn out to be something simple and stupid that I have done, but I just can't solve it. Can anyone HELP please Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- - Wanadoo vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti- virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. Cordially, Yann Garnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.
upgrade the firmware on the router. On 1/25/06, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My son has a toshiba laptop running XP. When ever he plugs in his network cable, The router linksys goes down. I cannot ping it from my machine. Rebooting the router allows all machines to reach internet and LAN addresses for a few seconds until the router crashes again. Leaving the cable unplugged from his laptop allows the router to work properly. Any ideas? -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Problems with printer Canon LBP-800
Hello guys, Has somebody setuped Canon LBP-800? Coud he explain how to do that? I've tried to do that like somebody sad at forums about LBP-810 but that haven't worked for me. Thanks in advance! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Dual Boot System Setup
Sean rsh.lists at comcast.net writes: I have a laptop I want to setup to boot either Gentoo or Windows. Looking around I am trying to find recommendations as to which is better to install first, Gentoo or Windows. From what I found, either often gets a recommendation. Would anyone recommend which is the best method for setup, start with Gentoo or Windows? Here's what works, flawlessly for me: A: use the Gentoo live CD to boot up the laptop 1. check/note the hardware lshw, lspci are great for this. Make sure drivers exist for your video and ethernet hardware. B: Decide to proceed: 1. If windoz is not already installed, install it. 2. Use Partion Magic to reduce the partion size of the windows install and put the remainder into a second partion. Installing partion magic under windoze is a great idea for later resizing of the windoz partition(s). 3. Install Gentoo. During your setup, you'll access the drive not touching the first partion, and use a scheme like this: a. Follow the gentoo installation guide b. use the minimal partions as suggested in the guide 1. for example one fstab possibility: /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /dev/fd0 proc /dev/hda2 /boot reiserfsnoatime,notail 1 2 /dev/hda3none swapsw 0 0 /dev/hda4 / reiserfsnotail 0 0 Your only allowed 3 primarys so I make the / dir an extended. Once you install gentoo (follow the guide) on the second and fourth partition, you'll need to config grub.conf for dual boot per the instructions. It takes some time, but well worth the effort. I also want to setup a common partition for data storage which both can access. Again, can anyone recommend a setup? I'm not up on how stable the writing to NTFS is from the linux side, but you'd add another (fifth partion) and use VFAT. Mount it from both windows (using partion magic) and Linux and you can move file between the OSes or share music and such.. Hth, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 13:42, a tiny voice compelled [EMAIL PROTECTED] to write: Recheck (I assume you've checked it already G) his network settings. He may have a bad card. Can you setup a network trace/sniffer on your linux box to see what happens? Also the Linksys will log some events - check it's log setup and see how detailed you can get. From: Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/25 Wed PM 01:36:44 EST To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router. My son has a toshiba laptop running XP. When ever he plugs in his network cable, The router linksys goes down. I cannot ping it from my machine. Rebooting the router allows all machines to reach internet and LAN addresses for a few seconds until the router crashes again. Leaving the cable unplugged from his laptop allows the router to work properly. Any ideas? -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I played a bit with his laptop (damn it's a bi**h to do anything with winders) and found that Internet Connection Sharing was enabled. I disabled same and it seems to have done the trick. My God! I fealt like a noobie trying to fumble my way around that thing. Is there no way of restarting the network on XP? -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.
You can restart the network on XP by right clicking the network connection and clicking repair I believe. On 1/25/06, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 25 January 2006 13:42, a tiny voice compelled [EMAIL PROTECTED] to write: Recheck (I assume you've checked it already G) his network settings. He may have a bad card. Can you setup a network trace/sniffer on your linux box to see what happens? Also the Linksys will log some events - check it's log setup and see how detailed you can get. From: Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/25 Wed PM 01:36:44 EST To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router. My son has a toshiba laptop running XP. When ever he plugs in his network cable, The router linksys goes down. I cannot ping it from my machine. Rebooting the router allows all machines to reach internet and LAN addresses for a few seconds until the router crashes again. Leaving the cable unplugged from his laptop allows the router to work properly. Any ideas? -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I played a bit with his laptop (damn it's a bi**h to do anything with winders) and found that Internet Connection Sharing was enabled. I disabled same and it seems to have done the trick. My God! I fealt like a noobie trying to fumble my way around that thing. Is there no way of restarting the network on XP? -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 14:39, a tiny voice compelled Trenton Adams to write: You can restart the network on XP by right clicking the network connection and clicking repair I believe. Hmm might work. ipconfig /release and then ipconfig /renew still seem to need a reboot, though ipconfig will show a valid IP#. I used to know winders pretty good. Of course that was 7 years ago. On 1/25/06, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 25 January 2006 13:42, a tiny voice compelled [EMAIL PROTECTED] to write: Recheck (I assume you've checked it already G) his network settings. He may have a bad card. Can you setup a network trace/sniffer on your linux box to see what happens? Also the Linksys will log some events - check it's log setup and see how detailed you can get. From: Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/25 Wed PM 01:36:44 EST To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router. My son has a toshiba laptop running XP. When ever he plugs in his network cable, The router linksys goes down. I cannot ping it from my machine. Rebooting the router allows all machines to reach internet and LAN addresses for a few seconds until the router crashes again. Leaving the cable unplugged from his laptop allows the router to work properly. Any ideas? -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I played a bit with his laptop (damn it's a bi**h to do anything with winders) and found that Internet Connection Sharing was enabled. I disabled same and it seems to have done the trick. My God! I fealt like a noobie trying to fumble my way around that thing. Is there no way of restarting the network on XP? -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: php blocking
Uwe Thiem uwix at iway.na writes: Just emerge --unmerge php and emerge dev-lang/php. You will have to fiddle with the USE flags for php a bit. # emerge --unmerge php --- Couldn't find php to unmerge. unmerge: No packages selected for removal. That's the problem it does not see the php or pear modules. emerge --unmerge pear --- Couldn't find pear to unmerge. unmerge: No packages selected for removal. I even 'emerge --sync' again, today and still I have: [blocks B ] dev-php/mod_php (is blocking dev-lang/php-5.0.5-r5) [blocks B ] dev-php/php (is blocking dev-lang/php-5.0.5-r5) [blocks B ] dev-php/mod_php (is blocking dev-php/PEAR-PEAR-1.4.6-r1) [blocks B ] dev-php/php (is blocking dev-php/PEAR-PEAR-1.4.6-r1) ideas? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.
Ernie Schroder wrote: Is there no way of restarting the network on XP? From the dos prompt, command: ipconfig /renew (I think) -- Phil My Home Page: http://fancypiper.info Our 2nd CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy Naomi's Fancy performances: http://naomisfancy.virtualave.net/schedule.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Using 'world' file to clone another machine
I'm sure this one's been asked a million times too... Machine A, runs Gentoo/KDE and a handful of other apps I've collected over the year. I would like Machine B to have the same exact packages. How would I use Machine A's /var/lib/portage/world file to make my 'clone'? Thanks all. -- Darth Vader: Impressive. Most impressive. Obi-wan has taught you well. You have controlled your fear. Now, release your anger! Only your hatred can destroy me! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using 'world' file to clone another machine
Jeff wrote: I'm sure this one's been asked a million times too... Machine A, runs Gentoo/KDE and a handful of other apps I've collected over the year. I would like Machine B to have the same exact packages. How would I use Machine A's /var/lib/portage/world file to make my 'clone'? Thanks all. Hypothetically (I haven't tried it.) 1) scp a:/etc/make.conf b:/etc/make.conf 2) modify the CFLAGS in b:/etc/make.conf to suit, but leave the USE unchanged. 3) do a basic install on b, you'll want to make sure it can boot into a kernel before you do the next step. 4) scp a:/var/lib/portage/world b:/tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst 5) emerge `cat /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst` Have a nice day. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using 'world' file to clone another machine
Michael A. Smith wrote: Jeff wrote: I'm sure this one's been asked a million times too... Machine A, runs Gentoo/KDE and a handful of other apps I've collected over the year. I would like Machine B to have the same exact packages. How would I use Machine A's /var/lib/portage/world file to make my 'clone'? Thanks all. Hypothetically (I haven't tried it.) 1) scp a:/etc/make.conf b:/etc/make.conf 2) modify the CFLAGS in b:/etc/make.conf to suit, but leave the USE unchanged. 3) do a basic install on b, you'll want to make sure it can boot into a kernel before you do the next step. 4) scp a:/var/lib/portage/world b:/tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst 5) emerge `cat /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst` Have a nice day. Correction. emerge --ask `cat /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst` ;-D -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using 'world' file to clone another machine
On Thursday 26 January 2006 06:03, Michael A. Smith wrote: Correction. emerge --ask `cat /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst` Correction, Correction: `emerge --ask $( /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst)` or heck: `emerge --ask /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst` might even work ;-D Chris White pgpB1vYuDNXoO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 14:52, a tiny voice compelled Phil Sexton to write: Ernie Schroder wrote: Is there no way of restarting the network on XP? From the dos prompt, command: ipconfig /renew (I think) I did a release and renew and got a valid IP from the router but I couldn't connect to the internet until I rebooted. I didn't try pinging inside or outside of the LAN so I don't know what was up. Someone know a link to a sniffer how-to? -- Phil My Home Page: http://fancypiper.info Our 2nd CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy Naomi's Fancy performances: http://naomisfancy.virtualave.net/schedule.html -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.
Use ethereal, as it has a GUI. On 1/25/06, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 25 January 2006 14:52, a tiny voice compelled Phil Sexton to write: Ernie Schroder wrote: Is there no way of restarting the network on XP? From the dos prompt, command: ipconfig /renew (I think) I did a release and renew and got a valid IP from the router but I couldn't connect to the internet until I rebooted. I didn't try pinging inside or outside of the LAN so I don't know what was up. Someone know a link to a sniffer how-to? -- Phil My Home Page: http://fancypiper.info Our 2nd CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy Naomi's Fancy performances: http://naomisfancy.virtualave.net/schedule.html -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] composing fancy html in kmail
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 01:29 Michael Kintzios was like: I can't remember if Thunderbird has a GUI for HTML editing (never used it), but have you tried using applications like Quanta+ or even OOo as an external editor to kmail? I did try using OOo. Unfortunately it could not manage to return something that the kmail compose window would even display as html, let alone allow me to embed pictures. However I have now found that it +is+ possible to do everything I want in Evolution. Could this be time to switch? Does anyone has any thoughts or flames about kmail/kontact vs. evolution in general? Many thanks Robert -- Robert Persson Conspiracy Bears: Once upon a time there were lots of conspiracy bears... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.
Isn't windows fun G. Someone has a sense of humor. In my new assignment I am now the Administrator for Windows servers and SQL Servers! I asked it that was because a) no one else wanted windows (we're AIX/Linux/Netware) and b) I was low man on the totem pole. The answer was jokingly yes - plus I've worked with Windows before (guess my resume had to much info on it!). Well I do get to run Linux here and at home. From: Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/25 Wed PM 02:36:51 EST To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router. On Wednesday 25 January 2006 13:42, a tiny voice compelled [EMAIL PROTECTED] to write: Recheck (I assume you've checked it already G) his network settings. He may have a bad card. Can you setup a network trace/sniffer on your linux gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I played a bit with his laptop (damn it's a bi**h to do anything with winders) and found that Internet Connection Sharing was enabled. I disabled same and it seems to have done the trick. My God! I fealt like a noobie trying to fumble my way around that thing. Is there no way of restarting the network on XP? -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using 'world' file to clone another machine
Chris White wrote: On Thursday 26 January 2006 06:03, Michael A. Smith wrote: Correction. emerge --ask `cat /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst` Correction, Correction: `emerge --ask $( /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst)` Way to decrease entropy, Chris. Why don't you email the whole list and tell them how to implement a minute reduction in CPU cycles. ;-D (I'm just kidding, this is a better way.) or heck: `emerge --ask /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst` This doesn't work, nor does cat welcome_to_my_world.lst | emerge --ask cat welcome_to_my_world.lst | emerge --pretend cat welcome_to_my_world.lst | xargs emerge --ask However, cat welcome_to_my_world.lst | xargs emerge --pretend does work. I didn't try it without pretend, but I betcha it'd work. Weird, huh? -Mike Smith -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] kernel config power-saving arcana; and getting acpi working.
Some while back I was trying to get power saving working fully on my desktop box and I found people talking about swsusp (as opposed to swsusp2) being part of the official kernel sources. This puzzled me greatly because I have never come across this option when configuring a kernel. In the end I resigned myself to it being just one of those things. However yesterday, while I was trying in vain to get at least one acpi function working, I became vastly more perplexed to find that there is supposed to be a kernel config parameter called CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP. Again, I have never come across this option when I have configured a kernel. Yet it is supposed to be part of the vanilla kernel (e.g. 2.6.15). Am I delusional? I have tried a whole load of other things to get things like acpi sleep working, such as patching the 2.6.15 kernel with the patches from acpi.sourceforge.net, making sure APM is disabled, as well as patching the kernel with a debugged version of my motherboard's DSDT, but nothing gets any kind of suspend or sleep working. I understand that I should be able to trigger power saving states by writing to /sys/power/state, but whenever I 'echo -n standby /sys/power/state' or 'echo mem /sys/power/state', even as root, nothing happens. I have checked the write permissions and they are fine. However 'cat /sys/power/state' invariably returns 'standby mem', no matter what I do. acpid works, at least to the extent that the machine will halt when the power button is pressed. If I could ditch acpi and get by with apm then I would, however I am not optimistic about this because apm is supposed not to like multiple processors and I have a hyperthreading P4. How am I to get power saving (well, sleep at least) working? Thanks Robert -- Robert Persson Conspiracy Bears: Once upon a time there were lots of conspiracy bears... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config power-saving arcana; and getting acpi working.
On 1/25/06, Robert Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some while back I was trying to get power saving working fully on my desktop box and I found people talking about swsusp (as opposed to swsusp2) being part of the official kernel sources. This puzzled me greatly because I have never come across this option when configuring a kernel. In the end I resigned myself to it being just one of those things. Its a parameter that should point to an empty partition for the kernel to park RAM information for use in a reboot. Its like specifing a specific hibernation file in windows, you pass the option to use the suspend partition to start the system. However yesterday, while I was trying in vain to get at least one acpi function working, I became vastly more perplexed to find that there is supposed to be a kernel config parameter called CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP. Again, I have never come across this option when I have configured a kernel. Yet it is supposed to be part of the vanilla kernel (e.g. 2.6.15). Am I delusional? I have had my omputer sleep under linux, at least my STR part of it, wakes up on keypress. I have tried a whole load of other things to get things like acpi sleep working, such as patching the 2.6.15 kernel with the patches from acpi.sourceforge.net, making sure APM is disabled, as well as patching the kernel with a debugged version of my motherboard's DSDT, but nothing gets any kind of suspend or sleep working. I just enable ACPI I understand that I should be able to trigger power saving states by writing to /sys/power/state, but whenever I 'echo -n standby /sys/power/state' or 'echo mem /sys/power/state', even as root, nothing happens. I have checked the write permissions and they are fine. However 'cat /sys/power/state' invariably returns 'standby mem', no matter what I do. acpid works, at least to the extent that the machine will halt when the power button is pressed. If I could ditch acpi and get by with apm then I would, however I am not optimistic about this because apm is supposed not to like multiple processors and I have a hyperthreading P4. How am I to get power saving (well, sleep at least) working? Thanks Robert -- Robert Persson Conspiracy Bears: Once upon a time there were lots of conspiracy bears... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config power-saving arcana; and getting acpi working.
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:48:55 -0800, Robert Persson wrote: Some while back I was trying to get power saving working fully on my desktop box and I found people talking about swsusp (as opposed to swsusp2) being part of the official kernel sources. This puzzled me greatly because I have never come across this option when configuring a kernel. In the end I resigned myself to it being just one of those things. Type / followed by susp while in make menuconfig to find it. Just browsing the options won't necessarily find what you want, because some only appear when others are enabled, whereas the search function shows all matching options, and tells you what else you need to enable. -- Neil Bothwick Always proofread carefully to see if you any words out. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config power-saving arcana; and getting acpi working.
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 19:27, a tiny voice compelled Neil Bothwick to write: On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:48:55 -0800, Robert Persson wrote: Some while back I was trying to get power saving working fully on my desktop box and I found people talking about swsusp (as opposed to swsusp2) being part of the official kernel sources. This puzzled me greatly because I have never come across this option when configuring a kernel. In the end I resigned myself to it being just one of those things. Type / followed by susp while in make menuconfig to find it. Just browsing the options won't necessarily find what you want, because some only appear when others are enabled, whereas the search function shows all matching options, and tells you what else you need to enable. Now THAT is about the most valuable tip I've ever hear of for making a kernel. I've never seen that documented before. -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: php blocking
On 1/25/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # emerge --unmerge php --- Couldn't find php to unmerge. unmerge: No packages selected for removal. That's the problem it does not see the php or pear modules. emerge --unmerge pear --- Couldn't find pear to unmerge. unmerge: No packages selected for removal. Try PEAR-PEAR (packages names are case-sensitive). I even 'emerge --sync' again, today and still I have: Add the --tree option to see what is actually trying to bring in dev-php/mod_php and dev-php/php. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Strangeness on a fresh install
Hi all, I am having a real strange problem on a fresh install, I had used a stage3 tarball from internet and when I try to emerge syslog-ng I got this error checking for C compiler default output...configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See config.log for more details. I had a look at config.log and do not understand nothing can someone help with that one -- An application asked: Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better, so I've installed Linux This file contains any messages produced by compilers while running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake. It was created by configure, which was generated by GNU Autoconf 2.59. Invocation command line was $ ./configure --prefix=/usr --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu ## - ## ## Platform. ## ## - ## hostname = livecd uname -m = i686 uname -r = 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 uname -s = Linux uname -v = #1 SMP Wed Aug 3 20:26:57 UTC 2005 /usr/bin/uname -p = Pentium III (Coppermine) /bin/uname -X = unknown /bin/arch = i686 /usr/bin/arch -k = unknown /usr/convex/getsysinfo = unknown hostinfo = unknown /bin/machine = unknown /usr/bin/oslevel = unknown /bin/universe = unknown PATH: /sbin PATH: /usr/sbin PATH: /usr/lib/portage/bin PATH: /bin PATH: /usr/bin PATH: /opt/bin PATH: /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/3.3.5-20050130 ## --- ## ## Core tests. ## ## --- ## configure:1538: checking for a BSD-compatible install configure:1593: result: /bin/install -c configure:1604: checking whether build environment is sane configure:1647: result: yes configure:1680: checking for gawk configure:1696: found /bin/gawk configure:1706: result: gawk configure:1716: checking whether make sets $(MAKE) configure:1736: result: yes configure:1924: checking whether build environment is sane configure:1967: result: yes configure:1978: checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc configure:1994: found /usr/bin/i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc configure:2004: result: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc configure:2286: checking for C compiler version configure:2289: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc --version /dev/null 5 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc (GCC) 3.3.5-20050130 (Gentoo 3.3.5.20050130-r1, ssp-3.3.5.20050130-1, pie-8.7.7.1) Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. configure:2292: $? = 0 configure:2294: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -v /dev/null 5 Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/specs Configured with: /var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.5.20050130-r1/work/gcc-3.3.5/configure --enable-version-specific-runtime-libs --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/3.3.5-20050130 --includedir=/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/include --datadir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130 --mandir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/man --infodir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/info --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/include/g++-v3 --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --disable-altivec --enable-nls --without-included-gettext --with-system-zlib --disable-checking --disable-werror --disable-libunwind-exceptions --disable-multilib --disable-libgcj --enable-languages=c,c++,f77 --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu Thread model: posix gcc version 3.3.5-20050130 (Gentoo 3.3.5.20050130-r1, ssp-3.3.5.20050130-1, pie-8.7.7.1) configure:2297: $? = 0 configure:2299: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -V /dev/null 5 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: `-V' option must have argument configure:2302: $? = 1 configure:2325: checking for C compiler default output file name configure:2328: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O3 -march=pentium3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -msse -mmmx -mfpu conftest.c 5 cc1: error: invalid option `fpu' configure:2331: $? = 1 configure: failed program was: | /* confdefs.h. */ | | #define PACKAGE_NAME | #define PACKAGE_TARNAME | #define PACKAGE_VERSION | #define PACKAGE_STRING | #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT | /* end confdefs.h. */ | | int | main () | { | | ; | return 0; | } configure:2370: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. ## ## ## Cache variables. ## ## ## ac_cv_env_CC_set= ac_cv_env_CC_value= ac_cv_env_CFLAGS_set=set ac_cv_env_CFLAGS_value='-O3 -march=pentium3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -msse -mmmx -mfpu' ac_cv_env_CPPFLAGS_set= ac_cv_env_CPPFLAGS_value= ac_cv_env_CPP_set= ac_cv_env_CPP_value= ac_cv_env_CXXCPP_set= ac_cv_env_CXXCPP_value= ac_cv_env_CXXFLAGS_set=set ac_cv_env_CXXFLAGS_value='-O3 -march=pentium3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -msse -mmmx -mfpu' ac_cv_env_CXX_set=
Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness on a fresh install
On Thursday 26 January 2006 11:49, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: Hi all, I am having a real strange problem on a fresh install, I had used a stage3 tarball from internet and when I try to emerge syslog-ng I got this error checking for C compiler default output...configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See config.log for more details. I had a look at config.log and do not understand nothing can someone help with that one configure:2328: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O3 -march=pentium3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -msse -mmmx -mfpu conftest.c 5 cc1: error: invalid option `fpu' These are the important lines. By the look of it you have -mfpu in your CFLAGS which, as the following output says, is not a valid option (unless you are running SPARC). -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: php blocking
Richard Fish bigfish at asmallpond.org writes: Try PEAR-PEAR (packages names are case-sensitive). # emerge --unmerge PEAR-PEAR --- Couldn't find PEAR-PEAR to unmerge. unmerge: No packages selected for removal. I even 'emerge --sync' again, today and still I have: Add the --tree option to see what is actually trying to bring in dev-php/mod_php and dev-php/php. # emerge --unmerge --tree PEAR-PEAR --tree implies --pretend... adding --pretend to options. These are the packages that I would unmerge: --- Couldn't find PEAR-PEAR to unmerge. unmerge: No packages selected for removal. I'm not so sure I tried what you are suggesting. Can if I missed your point, can you be more explicit in your syntax suggestions? Remember, I ran eix php and eix pear and now 'eix PEAR' Absolutely nothing is installed with any of these keywords in the name.on the system with this trouble. James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: php blocking
On 1/26/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Fish bigfish at asmallpond.org writes: Add the --tree option to see what is actually trying to bring in dev-php/mod_php and dev-php/php. # emerge --unmerge --tree PEAR-PEAR --tree implies --pretend... adding --pretend to options. These are the packages that I would unmerge: --- Couldn't find PEAR-PEAR to unmerge. unmerge: No packages selected for removal. I'm not so sure I tried what you are suggesting. Can if I missed your point, can you be more explicit in your syntax suggestions? He suggested that you should add --tree to the emerge command you did when you got the blockings. This will show in more detail what your problem is. /Andreas -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: php blocking
On 1/25/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Fish bigfish at asmallpond.org writes: Add the --tree option to see what is actually trying to bring in dev-php/mod_php and dev-php/php. # emerge --unmerge --tree PEAR-PEAR --tree implies --pretend... adding --pretend to options. These are the packages that I would unmerge: --- Couldn't find PEAR-PEAR to unmerge. unmerge: No packages selected for removal. I'm not so sure I tried what you are suggesting. Can if I missed your point, can you be more explicit in your syntax suggestions? I meant to add --tree to the command that is producing the block messagesI can't give you the exact command because you haven't ever posted the command you are using :P But this should give you some more insight: emerge --deep --update --tree --verbose world -Richard Remember, I ran eix php and eix pear and now 'eix PEAR' Absolutely nothing is installed with any of these keywords in the name.on the system with this trouble. James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config power-saving arcana; and getting acpi working.
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 16:27 Neil Bothwick was like: Type / followed by susp while in make menuconfig to find it. Just browsing the options won't necessarily find what you want, because some only appear when others are enabled, whereas the search function shows all matching options, and tells you what else you need to enable. Thank you very much indeed! It turns out that my problem with not being able to configure acpi_sleep and swsusp in the kernel was to do with having SMP enabled for my hyperthreading P4 processor. This means I need SMP_SUSPEND, which in turn depends on HOTPLUG_CPU. Now to see if it works... -- Robert Persson Conspiracy Bears: Once upon a time there were lots of conspiracy bears... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mysterious dev-lang/php 'n' junk 'n' stuff....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Holly Bostick wrote: gentuxx schreef: Hi all, snip I went to do an `emerge -Duatv world` tonight, and I get dev-php/php and dev-php/mod_php blocking. So I uninstalled them, and thought that I would re-install later (if necessary). When I run it again, I get dev-lang/php blocking dev-php/php-4.4.0-r4 (which is the one I just unemerged). So, same logical progression, I go to unemerge dev-lang/php, and, lo and behold, it's not installed. snip So, my questions to the group are these: 1) Why does `emerge -Duatv world` find a package (which blocks another that it wants to update) that `emerge -CDatv world` does NOT find? As far as I know, emerge -CDatv world is not even a valid command (at least I hope it isn't). This translates to emerge --unmerge --deep --ask --tree --verbose world, and it seems to me would unmerge everything on your system if it was allowed. The unemerge isn't run from the script. The `emerge world` is. I would think that it would only unemerge package that depended solely on the package being unemerged. But, perhaps the '--deep' is ignored in this case. I have never seen another package being brought for unemerging when using this command. The usual use for --unmerge is to tell Portage what you specifically want to unmerge; this should not be an automatic function (except in the case of repair utilities such as depclean, which even those give you a HUGE warning that unmerging random --as in not pre-specified by the user, but determined by a script-- packages automatically can break the system). The actual answer to your question, though, is that the blocking package is not a problem unless you want to emerge something that it blocks. So of course it's not going to be noticed until you attempt to perform such an action (emerging a package that is blocked by the installed package). Well, this is what I would like to do. ( I thought this would be obvious.) But I can't continue with the `emerge world` unless I'm able to resolve the blocks. The command/process dies almost immediately complaining about the blocked packages. 2) How do I rectify this little version discrepancy fixed so that I can get things updating normally again? Iirc from several threads recently, there are one or more packages on your system that rely on php which must be updated to ~arch, or else they keep trying to bring in PHP4 (only the ~arch version can depend on PHP5; the stable versions have a fixed dependency on PHP4). I don't remember which programs they are, but if you don't feel like searching the archives, you can look at your tree view to see what is actually pulling in PHP4, upgrading that (or keywording it to unstable, rather) and see if you still get the block. I had several keyworded before, and removing those keywords seemed to eliminate *some* of the blocking problem. I'll try upgrading/keywording the ones that seem to depend on php4 in the hopes that they are now wanting php5. Hope this helps, Holly - -- gentux echo hfouvyAdpy/ofu | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge' gentux's gpg fingerprint == 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40 9795 2D81 924A 6996 0993 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFD2FqqLYGSSmmWCZMRApprAJ0Qajgjrd3aYAoLJQyLVBvgLf8wCACgzs76 ZUn+4H0hS7R06fp0tsg4hs8= =WQJ7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] no trouble getting to sleep, but would rather die than wake up
I have finally got some acpi sleep states working on my desktop box (thanks everyone!), but not all the way I would like. The box has an asus p4p800-se motherboard and a hyperthreading p4 processor. Hyperthreading is enabled in the kernel (which is why it was hard to find out how to get sleep enabled in the kernel config). 'echo standby /sys/power/state' works fine. 'echo disk /sys/power/state' doesn't, but I'm not worried for now. swsusp2 conflicts (or used to) with reiser4 (which I use) and the original swsusp is known to have problems. 'echo mem /sys/power/state' is what is frustrating. It goes to sleep alright, but I can't wake it up. The only thing that does anything is the power button, and what that does is send the system into shutdown. If the sleep state is initiated from a console, the screen remains black during the brief reawakening. If the sleep state is initiated from the X server then I get some kind of funny pattern on the screen of the kind that says that the video card is confused. This last one is the sleep state I most want to use, so any help getting it to work properly would be much appreciated. many thanks Robert -- Robert Persson Conspiracy Bears: Once upon a time there were lots of conspiracy bears... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list