Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome calendar - Start on Sunday instead of Saturday?

2006-01-25 Thread Holly Bostick
Mark Knecht schreef:
 Hi, Title says it. My wife wants to configure this item and I cannot 
 find the control of it in the preferences page. Anyone know how to 
 make it start on Sunday instead?
 
 Thanks, Mark
 
I'm sorry not to be more precise, but I suspect that I may not have the
calendar application you are using. But here is what I found:

1. emerge (or run if installed, but it's now a separate package, and I
didn't have it, amazingly) gconf-editor.

2. in gconf-editor, go to / = apps = evolution = calendar (this of
course assumes that evo controls the calendar, which it well might,
since I don't have evo or eds installed and I still have this settings
tree) = display

3. In the display tree (items shown now in the right pane), change

week_start_day

from 1 (Monday, which is what must be the default, as that's what mine
is set to and I've never touched it)

to

0 (which represents Sunday, as the text will tell you).

I suppose there's an easier way to do this (perhaps if you have
Evolution installed, you can change it in their prefs setting), and
perhaps this is in fact not the setting that controls the calendar, but
I hope it is, and I hope it helps.

If not, trawl through gconf-editor and see if anything else looks
relevant (for example, if you know the name of the calendar application,
it probably has a settings tree in gconf-editor).

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mysterious dev-lang/php 'n' junk 'n' stuff....

2006-01-25 Thread Holly Bostick
gentuxx schreef:
 Hi all,
 
snip
 I went to do an `emerge -Duatv world` tonight, and I get dev-php/php 
 and dev-php/mod_php blocking.  So I uninstalled them, and thought
 that I would re-install later (if necessary).  When I run it again, I
 get dev-lang/php blocking dev-php/php-4.4.0-r4 (which is the one I
 just unemerged).  So, same logical progression, I go to unemerge 
 dev-lang/php, and, lo and behold, it's not installed.
 
snip
 
 So, my questions to the group are these:
 
 1)  Why does `emerge -Duatv world` find a package (which blocks 
 another that it wants to update) that `emerge -CDatv world` does NOT
 find?

As far as I know, emerge -CDatv world is not even a valid command (at
least I hope it isn't).

This translates to

emerge --unmerge --deep --ask --tree --verbose world, and it seems to me
would unmerge everything on your system if it was allowed.

The usual use for --unmerge is to tell Portage what you specifically
want to unmerge; this should not be an automatic function (except in the
case of repair utilities such as depclean, which even those give you a
HUGE warning that unmerging random --as in not pre-specified by the
user, but determined by a script-- packages automatically can break the
system).

The actual answer to your question, though, is that the blocking package
is not a problem unless you want to emerge something that it blocks. So
of course it's not going to be noticed until you attempt to perform
such an action (emerging a package that is blocked by the installed
package).
 
 2)  How do I rectify this little version discrepancy fixed so that
 I can get things updating normally again?

Iirc from several threads recently, there are one or more packages on
your system that rely on php which must be updated to ~arch, or else
they keep trying to bring in PHP4 (only the ~arch version can depend on
PHP5; the stable versions have a fixed dependency on PHP4).

I don't remember which programs they are, but if you don't feel like
searching the archives, you can look at your tree view to see what is
actually pulling in PHP4, upgrading that (or keywording it to unstable,
rather) and see if you still get the block.

Hope this helps,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] [POLL] portage-2.1 USE flag ordering

2006-01-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:47:29 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:

  I have the above URL showing the Forum topic on Konqueror 3.5
   there is no choice to click nor any submit button: yes, I logged
  in.
  Strange. Well, you should be able to find it
  near the top of the Portage  Programming forum.
 
 Well, that gets the same topic  still no buttons to click.
 However, it does work with Firefox, so perhaps it's a javascript issue.

Are you really logging in? I foundI was no longer able to log in with
Konqqueror. It accepted my login/password with no errors, but still showed
me as a guest. The solution was to delete all cookies for
forums.gentoo.org. Then I could log in properly and vote.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Boot System Setup

2006-01-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:23:51 -0600, Dale wrote:

 If grub gets hosed, you can boot a Win 98 CD or a boot floppy and run
 fdisk /mbr on it.  I recently took a hard drive of mine out of a friends
 computer that was dual booting and that was what I did.  Now windoze XP
 boots up like Linux was never there.  I'm not sure if you can do that
 from the win XP CD or not though. 

You can, but the command is now fixmbr.


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RE: [gentoo-user] Dual Boot System Setup

2006-01-25 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 25 January 2006 06:24
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Boot System Setup
 
 
 If grub gets hosed, you can boot a Win 98 CD or a boot floppy and run
 fdisk /mbr on it.  I recently took a hard drive of mine out 
 of a friends
 computer that was dual booting and that was what I did.  Now 
 windoze XP
 boots up like Linux was never there.  I'm not sure if you can do that
 from the win XP CD or not though.  I'm not a windoze person.  I don't
 have and never had windoze, ever. 

The command fixmbr ran with the WinXP installation CD will reinstall the
M$Windoze boot code in the MBR.  Similarly the command fixboot will
rewrite the partition boot sector if by mistake Grub was installed in
the WinXP partition boot sector instead of the MBR. A lot of people
unnecessarily reinstall M$Windoze when either of these two little tips
could save the day.
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RE: [gentoo-user] composing fancy html in kmail

2006-01-25 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Persson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 25 January 2006 00:46
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] composing fancy html in kmail
 
 
 I want to send an email with both embedded thumbnail images 
 and external 
 hyperlinks. My email client is kmail.
 
 What I want to do is certainly impossible with the kmail 
 editor, however kmail 
 gives you the option of using an external editor. Is there 
 any way I can do 
 what I want and get the result, complete with embedded images 
 and hyperlinks, 
 back into kmail for sending?
 
 If not, is there another email client which will allow me to 
 do what I want - 
 ideally one that will allow me to work in a joined up way 
 like you can with 
 kontact, evolution, m-ess outlook etc?

I can't remember if Thunderbird has a GUI for HTML editing (never used
it), but have you tried using applications like Quanta+ or even OOo as
an external editor to kmail?  Alternatively, would something like
Vim/kate/etc. work, but you will need to write your own HTML tags and
also change the mail header in kmail to reflect the fact that this is a
multipart text/html message (not sure how to do this).

I am not at my machine to try any of the above, but please post back if
you can get it working.  Some times HTML tags are more useful to convey
information than plain text.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Boot System Setup

2006-01-25 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:23:51 -0600, Dale wrote:

  

If grub gets hosed, you can boot a Win 98 CD or a boot floppy and run
fdisk /mbr on it.  I recently took a hard drive of mine out of a friends
computer that was dual booting and that was what I did.  Now windoze XP
boots up like Linux was never there.  I'm not sure if you can do that
from the win XP CD or not though. 



You can, but the command is now fixmbr.


  

Good to know that.  I learned something today.  Now I can go to bed.  :-) 

Oh, just so you know, my ISP got the email sorted out and my connection
problems too.  They called in a guru and he worked on some other
problems first then tackled my email problem.  I no longer connect to
Qwest network.  I connect to datasync and they have it set up correctly
for me and Mozilla. 

Now to finish downloading the new Open Office with a 26K connection. 
O_O Dale goes to cry himself to sleep 

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome calendar - Start on Sunday instead of Saturday?

2006-01-25 Thread Frédéric Grosshans
Le mercredi 25 janvier 2006 à 09:39 +0100, Holly Bostick a écrit :

 I'm sorry not to be more precise, but I suspect that I may not have the
 calendar application you are using. But here is what I found:

I guess he speaks of the calendar which appears when you left-click on
the clock-applet.


 2. in gconf-editor, go to / = apps = evolution = calendar (this of
 course assumes that evo controls the calendar, which it well might,
 since I don't have evo or eds installed and I still have this settings
 tree) = display

My evolution calendar starts weeks on monday, and my clock-applet
calendar make them start on sunday, so I guess this calendar is not the
one controlled by evolution :=(

Fred

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Re: [gentoo-user] usb wacom tablet

2006-01-25 Thread Roger Mason
Hello Robert,

Robert Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 12:38 -0330, Roger Mason wrote:
 Hello,
 
[snip]
 Can anyone suggest what may be wrong?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Roger Mason

 It doen't look like you have USB HID turned on in your kernel.
 Here is what I have for the USB portion of my kernel config:
 CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_HCD=y
 CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_OHCI=y
 CONFIG_USB=y
 CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y
 CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=m
 CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD=m
 CONFIG_USB_OHCI_LITTLE_ENDIAN=y
 CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=m
 CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=m
 CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=m
 CONFIG_USB_HID=m
 CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y
 CONFIG_USB_WACOM=m
 CONFIG_USB_EGALAX=m

 If that doesn't work, maybe try to plug it directly into the computer
 instead of the hub. I've had devices not like being plugged into a hub
 before.
[snip]
 For what it's worth, here is what I have showing up in dmesg when I plug
 my tablet in:
 ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup
 usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2
 input: Wacom Intuos2 6x8 on usb-:00:02.0-1

 Robert

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Thanks for your reply.  After I posted the message I figured out that
HID support was required.  That was not the only problem - it worked
(at least it shows up in /proc/...) only when I added the ohci and
uhci drivers.  My mistake, I got idea that only ehci was needed
because that is what my NEC controlled card uses.

Now to set the appropriate entries in xorg.conf.

Thanks again,

Roger
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[gentoo-user] cfengine any one?

2006-01-25 Thread Jean Blignaut








I saw cfengine mentioned here: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/infrastructure/server-standards.xml



But my searching thru the forums and cfengines website
arent yielding the kind of result Id expect:


 What are its features
 
 Screenshots? 
 How to configure/setup (if its
 what Im looking for) 






My goals are to try and keep multiple production servers up-to-date
and running with out having to manually emerge packages every day and especially
having to do etc-update








[gentoo-user] meld dependencies

2006-01-25 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
Hi 

I am a KDE 3.5 user and do not want GNOME since i don't use it. The best diff 
application that I know of is Meld (I have tried kdiff3, kompare, gtkdiff, 
tkdiff and of course diff). Meld is a GNOME and Python application and 
depends on among others gnome-python and gnome-python-extras.
Hence Meld pulls in a LOT of packages including gnome-panel, gnome-themes, 
totem and nautilus (I've counted 50 packages that would be removed if I did 
uninstalled meld). 

Therefore I decided I would remove some of the packages that obviously are not 
necessary. I did this by copying meld, gnome-python and gnome-python-extras 
to an overlay and removing dependencies that I knew wasn't necessary (I put 
in a gnome use flag, which I have disabled and let them depend on that use 
flag).

The following shows the packages that I have removed and meld is still working 
as intended (of course a lot of them are deep dependencies so the packages I 
actually removed through the ebuilds are a lot fewer):

[ebuild  N]   gnome-extra/gtkhtml-3.8.2  -debug -static 1,218 kB
[ebuild  N]net-libs/libsoup-2.2.7  -debug -doc +ssl -static 430 kB
[ebuild  N]   media-video/totem-1.2.1  -a52 -debug +dvd +flac -gnome +lirc 
+mad +mpeg -nsplugin +ogg -theora +vorbis +win32codecs +xine +xv 0 kB
[ebuild  N]app-text/iso-codes-0.49  3,612 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-python/pyxml-0.8.4  0 kB
[ebuild  N]   gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner-2.12.2  +cdr -debug -dvdr 
-hal -static 0 kB
[ebuild  N]gnome-base/nautilus-2.12.2  +X -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/librsvg-2.12.7  -debug -doc -gnome -nsplugin 
+zlib 0 kB
[ebuild  N]  dev-libs/libcroco-0.6.0  -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N]  gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.1  +bzip2 -debug -doc -gnome 
-static 0 kB
[ebuild  N]gnome-base/eel-2.12.2  +X -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-util/desktop-file-utils-0.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/gail-1.8.8  -debug -doc 568 kB
[ebuild  N]   gnome-base/libgtop-2.12.2  +X -debug +gdbm -static 0 kB
[ebuild  N]   gnome-base/libgnomeprintui-2.12.1  -debug -doc 631 kB
[ebuild  N]   gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.12.2  -debug -doc -eds 0 kB
[ebuild  N]gnome-base/gnome-menus-2.12.0-r1  -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N]gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.12.2  -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N]app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.4.4  -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.12.1  -accessibility -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.12.1  -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N]  x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.8  0 kB


Now the problem is that when I run emerge meld -uvpD it wants to pull in three 
of them, and I cannot figure out why:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# emerge meld -uvpDt

These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.12.1  -accessibility -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.12.1  -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N]  x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.8  0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# equery d gnome-themes
[ Searching for packages depending on gnome-themes... ]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# equery d gnome-icon-theme
[ Searching for packages depending on gnome-icon-theme... ]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# equery d hicolor-icon-theme
[ Searching for packages depending on hicolor-icon-theme... ]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# 


Does anyone have any ideas for finding out why they're pulled in? I have 
posted the output of emerge --info below. Any help is appreciated.

/Bo

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# emerge --info
Portage 2.0.54 (default-linux/x86/2005.0, gcc-3.4.5, glibc-2.3.5-r2, 
2.6.15-gentoo-r1 i686)
=
System uname: 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1600MHz
Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14
dev-lang/python: 2.3.5-r2, 2.4.2
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.12
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.59-r6
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1
sys-devel/binutils:  2.16.1
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.22
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.11-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
AUTOCLEAN=yes
CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-march=pentium-m -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config 
/usr/share/config /var/qmail/control
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gconf /etc/env.d
CXXFLAGS=-march=pentium-m -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo/ 
http://mirror.uni-c.dk/gentoo/ 

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-25 Thread Tom Smith
Uwe Thiem wrote:

On 25 January 2006 06:46, Tom Smith wrote:

  

I read something some time ago that suggested if you transfer a
compressed file over a compressed SFTP connection, for example, that it
would take longer to transfer the data versus if only the data or the
connection was compressed. The reason, as I recall, had to do with
compressing already compressed data--this apparently created some
overhead on the connection.



What is a compressed sftp connection?

Uwe

  

In ssh, sftp, scp you can use the -C option to enable compression. This
simply (de)compresses, on the fly, the data being transferred between
the client and the server computer. It's generally suggested for use
over slow connections (such as dial-ups) but I've experienced
performance improvements in X11 forwarding, and some data transfers,
when using it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mysterious dev-lang/php 'n' junk 'n' stuff....

2006-01-25 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 25 January 2006 09:50, gentuxx wrote:

 I went to do an `emerge -Duatv world` tonight, and I get dev-php/php
 and dev-php/mod_php blocking.  So I uninstalled them, and thought that
 I would re-install later (if necessary).  When I run it again, I get
 dev-lang/php blocking dev-php/php-4.4.0-r4 (which is the one I just
 unemerged).  So, same logical progression, I go to unemerge
 dev-lang/php, and, lo and behold, it's not installed.

 I vaguely remembered that the portage crew did some tinkering with
 the portage tree when PHP5 came out, and it had something to do with
 the whole dev-php/php-dev-lang/php issue.

 So, my questions to the group are these:

 1)  Why does `emerge -Duatv world` find a package (which blocks
 another that it wants to update) that `emerge -CDatv world` does NOT find?

 2)  How do I rectify this little version discrepancy fixed so that I
 can get things updating normally again?

I solved it for me by emerge --unmerge php and emerge dev-lang/php.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-25 Thread Alexander Skwar
Trenton Adams wrote:

 Not possible
 on a windows machine. :P

Wrong.

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Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-25 Thread John Jolet

I read something some time ago that suggested if you transfer a
compressed file over a compressed SFTP connection, for example,  
that it

would take longer to transfer the data versus if only the data or the
connection was compressed. The reason, as I recall, had to do with
compressing already compressed data--this apparently created some
overhead on the connection.

Did you look at this situation in your tests? If so, what were the  
results?


No, I see absolutely no reason to use sftp.  Just scp.  By default,  
compression is off on that, unless you've modified your ssh_conf.

But I have heard the same thing about doubly-compressing things.

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[gentoo-user] Module names???

2006-01-25 Thread Andrew Lowe

Hi all,
	A simple question, where do I find out modules names? I've currently 
got menconfig loaded and trying to decide as to whether to go static or 
module. My problem is that I can't find the names of the modules for 
most of the options hence how do I know what to load if it is a module. 
For exmaple, if I want to use the XFS file system, in the menuconfig 
help it says:


... choose M here; the module will be called xfs...

Conversly if I want to use AES encryption there is nothing in the help 
that tells me what the module name will be.


	If anyone can inform me where I can find these module names, it would 
be greatly appreciated. I don't know why they  aren't all placed in the 
help in the first place.


Regards,
Andrew

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[gentoo-user] modules PID

2006-01-25 Thread Cláudio Henrique
how do I find out the PID of a module?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Module names???

2006-01-25 Thread Holly Bostick
Andrew Lowe schreef:
 Hi all, A simple question, where do I find out modules names? I've
 currently got menconfig loaded and trying to decide as to whether to
 go static or module. My problem is that I can't find the names of the
 modules for most of the options hence how do I know what to load if
 it is a module. For exmaple, if I want to use the XFS file system, in
 the menuconfig help it says:
 
 ... choose M here; the module will be called xfs...
 
 Conversly if I want to use AES encryption there is nothing in the
 help that tells me what the module name will be.
 

To some degree, they are:

The title of the help for the option usually includes something closely
related to the module name.

For CONFIG_CRYPTO_AES_586

I would guess that the module name might well be aes-586. Apparently
there's a 64-bit module as well, but it may be that that doesn't appear
in my kernel config because I have already specified that I don't have a
64-bit CPU. In any case, the format for the help title is

CONFIG_GROUPNAME_SOMETHING_LIKE_THE_MODULE_NAME (but module names
usually use hyphens where the kernel config uses underscores).

However, you most likely will not need to load the modules manually
anyway; assuming you have automatic kernel module loading enabled, the
kernel will load necessary modules when it notices that they are
necessary (when a device using the module is detected and initialized).
Also, I would not myself think that encryption is the kind of thing
you'd want to load only some of the time (so I'd compile it statically
anyway).

Thirdly, are you sure that all of the options that you're looking for
the module names for are capable of being compiled as modules? Some aren't.

In the case that you don't know (it could happen :-) ), options
appearing with brackets ([ ]) can only be compiled statically; options
appearing with greater-than/less-than signs ( ) can be compiled
either statically or as modules. So it's also possible that some of the
help doesn't contain module names simply because the option cannot be
compiled as a loadable module.

HTH,
Holly


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Re: [gentoo-user] Module names???

2006-01-25 Thread Dale
Andrew Lowe wrote:

 snip
 If anyone can inform me where I can find these module names, it
 would be greatly appreciated. I don't know why they  aren't all placed
 in the help in the first place.

 Regards,
 Andrew


It does tell you.  You even put it in your email.  ;-)  If you build xfs
as a module, you need to load the module, xfs.  That's it.

If after you get done you need to know what modules are available to
load, modprobe -l , thats a lower case L by the way, should list them
for you.  Here is mine:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # modprobe -l
 /lib/modules/2.6.14-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/hwmon/w83627hf.ko
 /lib/modules/2.6.14-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/hwmon/hwmon-vid.ko
 /lib/modules/2.6.14-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-isa.ko
 /lib/modules/2.6.14-gentoo-r5/video/nvidia.ko
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #


I don't like modules to much but I used to have to reset my sensors
since they would lock up sometimes.  They have fixed it now so next
time, it will be built in like everything else.

Hope that helps,

Dale
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2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.  
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3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.  Named Pokey
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [POLL] portage-2.1 USE flag ordering

2006-01-25 Thread Philip Webb
060125 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:47:29 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
 I have the above URL showing the Forum topic on Konqueror 3.5
  there is no choice to click nor submit button: yes, I logged in.
 Strange. Well, you should be able to find it
 near the top of the Portage  Programming forum.
 Well, that gets the same topic  still no buttons to click.
 However, it does work with Firefox, so perhaps it's a javascript issue.
 Are you really logging in? I found I was unable to log in with Konqueror.
 It accepted my login/password with no errors, but showed me as guest.
 The solution was to delete all cookies for forums.gentoo.org.
 Then I could log in properly and vote.

Yes, that was probably what I was experiencing: I voted with Firefox.
Generally, Firefox is more practical for typical Internet activities,
but it slowly eats memory  tends to abuse CPU with flash installed;
if I uninstall flash, I may not be able to see things I want,
eg astronomy animations, so my compromise is to use Konqueror (smile).

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Re: [gentoo-user] modules PID

2006-01-25 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/25/06, Cláudio Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 how do I find out the PID of a module?

What kind of module?  kernel modules have no process ID, because they
are not a process.

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Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-25 Thread Jeff
It brings me great joy to know that my original post has spawned such
madness.

:-)

John Jolet wrote:
 I read something some time ago that suggested if you transfer a
 compressed file over a compressed SFTP connection, for example,  that it
 would take longer to transfer the data versus if only the data or the
 connection was compressed. The reason, as I recall, had to do with
 compressing already compressed data--this apparently created some
 overhead on the connection.

 Did you look at this situation in your tests? If so, what were the 
 results?

 No, I see absolutely no reason to use sftp.  Just scp.  By default, 
 compression is off on that, unless you've modified your ssh_conf.
 But I have heard the same thing about doubly-compressing things.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Building Kernel Modules with custom kernel trees

2006-01-25 Thread Harald Arnesen
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:00:01 +, Alex Bennee wrote:

 There really is no need to force people to build as root under /usr/src
 so is it possible to educate portage to use the uname method to
 determine the root of the kernel tree for building kernel modules?

 Portage doesn't build the modules in /usr/src, but it uses
 the /usr/src/linux symlink to determine the kernel for which you wish to
 build the modules; which may not be the same as returned by uname -r.

And that is a bug, in my opinion.
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Re: [gentoo-user] meld dependencies

2006-01-25 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi,
On (25/01/06 13:24), Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
 Hi 
 
 I am a KDE 3.5 user and do not want GNOME since i don't use it. The best diff 
 application that I know of is Meld (I have tried kdiff3, kompare, gtkdiff, 
 tkdiff and of course diff). Meld is a GNOME and Python application and 
 depends on among others gnome-python and gnome-python-extras.
 Hence Meld pulls in a LOT of packages including gnome-panel, gnome-themes, 
 totem and nautilus (I've counted 50 packages that would be removed if I did 
 uninstalled meld). 
 
 Therefore I decided I would remove some of the packages that obviously are 
 not 
 necessary. I did this by copying meld, gnome-python and gnome-python-extras 
 to an overlay and removing dependencies that I knew wasn't necessary (I put 
 in a gnome use flag, which I have disabled and let them depend on that use 
 flag).
 
 The following shows the packages that I have removed and meld is still 
 working 
 as intended (of course a lot of them are deep dependencies so the packages I 
 actually removed through the ebuilds are a lot fewer):
 
 [ebuild  N]   gnome-extra/gtkhtml-3.8.2  -debug -static 1,218 kB
 [ebuild  N]net-libs/libsoup-2.2.7  -debug -doc +ssl -static 430 kB
 [ebuild  N]   media-video/totem-1.2.1  -a52 -debug +dvd +flac -gnome 
 +lirc 
 +mad +mpeg -nsplugin +ogg -theora +vorbis +win32codecs +xine +xv 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]app-text/iso-codes-0.49  3,612 kB
 [ebuild  N] dev-python/pyxml-0.8.4  0 kB
 [ebuild  N]   gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner-2.12.2  +cdr -debug -dvdr 
 -hal -static 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]gnome-base/nautilus-2.12.2  +X -debug 0 kB
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/librsvg-2.12.7  -debug -doc -gnome -nsplugin 
 +zlib 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]  dev-libs/libcroco-0.6.0  -debug 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]  gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.1  +bzip2 -debug -doc -gnome 
 -static 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]gnome-base/eel-2.12.2  +X -debug 0 kB
 [ebuild  N] dev-util/desktop-file-utils-0.10  0 kB
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/gail-1.8.8  -debug -doc 568 kB
 [ebuild  N]   gnome-base/libgtop-2.12.2  +X -debug +gdbm -static 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]   gnome-base/libgnomeprintui-2.12.1  -debug -doc 631 kB
 [ebuild  N]   gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.12.2  -debug -doc -eds 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]gnome-base/gnome-menus-2.12.0-r1  -debug 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.12.2  -debug 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.4.4  -debug 0 kB
 [ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.12.1  -accessibility -debug 0 kB
 [ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.12.1  -debug 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]  x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.8  0 kB
 
 
 Now the problem is that when I run emerge meld -uvpD it wants to pull in 
 three 
 of them, and I cannot figure out why:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# emerge meld -uvpDt
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:
 
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.12.1  -accessibility -debug 0 kB
 [ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.12.1  -debug 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]  x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.8  0 kB
 
 Total size of downloads: 0 kB
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# equery d gnome-themes
 [ Searching for packages depending on gnome-themes... ]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# equery d gnome-icon-theme
 [ Searching for packages depending on gnome-icon-theme... ]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# equery d hicolor-icon-theme
 [ Searching for packages depending on hicolor-icon-theme... ]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# 
 
 
 Does anyone have any ideas for finding out why they're pulled in? I have 
 posted the output of emerge --info below. Any help is appreciated.
 
 /Bo
 ...SKIP...
 
Here're direct dependecies of 'meld':
dev-util/meld-1.1.2:
=dev-lang/python-2.2dev-lang/python-2.4.2
=dev-python/gnome-python-1.99.15 
dev-python/gnome-python-2.12.1
=dev-python/pygtk-1.99.15 dev-python/pygtk-2.8.2
=dev-python/pyorbit-1.99.0 dev-python/pyorbit-2.0.1
=gnome-base/libglade-2  gnome-base/libglade-2.5.1
=gnome-base/libgnome-2  gnome-base/libgnome-2.12.0.1
=sys-apps/sed-4 sys-apps/sed-4.1.4
dev-python/gnome-python-extras 
dev-python/gnome-python-extras-2.12.0
!bootstrap? sys-devel/patch  sys-devel/patch-2.5.9-r1
...END...
Quite none of them are conditional USE flag controlled app exept patch 
('bootstrap').
So some of these apps probably fetches these three new packages.
For any deps you can directly check the ebuild file (DEPEND|RDEPEND).
HTH.Rumen

Re: [gentoo-user] Error message on kde startup

2006-01-25 Thread Paul
On Tuesday 24 Jan 2006 17:45, Manuel McLure wrote:
 Paul wrote:
  Hi all,
  Recently I had to update about 24 packages, all went well and any config
  files were updated.  However, I now have a problem when kde starts, I get
  an error-kdesktop message saying The KDE Mediamanager is not running 
  In the control Centre - Service Manager under startup Services the KDED
  Media Manager has a status of Not Running.  If I try to start it manually
  I just get a message saying Unable to start service.
 
  I just don't know what to try next -  any suggestions?

 Just got this last night - the problem is that the new dbus/hal changed
 the shared library they use. revdep-rebuild should solve the problem (in
 my case it made me rebuild kioslaves and k3b.)
revdep-rebuild solved the problem
Thanks to all who replied
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Re: [gentoo-user] modules PID

2006-01-25 Thread Cláudio Henrique
well, let me describe the problem.

sometimes, when I try to synchronize my Palm, pilot-xfer throws a
error, and the devices /dev/tts/USBn do not disappear. if it happens
repeatedly... well, I guess the scene is painted.

I thought it could solve it killing the module. I have tried modprobe
-rf visor but visor do not want to die.

any ideas?

On 1/25/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 1/25/06, Cláudio Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  how do I find out the PID of a module?

 What kind of module?  kernel modules have no process ID, because they
 are not a process.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Building Kernel Modules with custom kernel trees

2006-01-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:05:21 +0100, Harald Arnesen wrote:

  Portage doesn't build the modules in /usr/src, but it uses
  the /usr/src/linux symlink to determine the kernel for which you wish
  to build the modules; which may not be the same as returned by uname
  -r.

 And that is a bug, in my opinion.

It provides the opportunity to build modules for a new kernel before
booting into it, which uname -r does not.


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Re: [gentoo-user] modules PID

2006-01-25 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Cláudio,
on Wednesday, 2006-01-25 at 13:47:21, you wrote:
 I thought it could solve it killing the module. I have tried modprobe
 -rf visor but visor do not want to die.
 
 any ideas?

Do you have forced module unloading enabled in your kernel? If you do,
it's probably a problem in the module itself that can't be solved
without hacking the source.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate mouse clicks??

2006-01-25 Thread Yann Garnier

Hi,

Since hardware is involved, Did you check:

1 - With another USB mouse ?
2 - With your mouse on a different USB port ?

I know it seems evident but it's just to be sure that your problem  
is  a software one

and not a hardware one.


Le 25 janv. 06 à 16:38, Paul a écrit :


Hi all,
Recently I have been having a problem with my usb mouse actions.
In kmail when deleting messages using the bin icon sometimes 2  
messages will

be deleted instead of 1.
Sometimes when reading messages another instance will appear in a  
separate

window.
Sometimes I have to click a number of time to raise the menu.
If I exit out of a program (file exit) the program exits but the  
desktop icon

underneath gets activated.
It's almost like 2 clicks are happening instead of 1.
KDE is set up for single click.
This has only started happening within the last week.

I'm sure this will turn out to be something simple and stupid that  
I have

done, but I just can't solve it.
Can anyone HELP please
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.

2006-01-25 Thread Trenton Adams
upgrade the firmware on the router.

On 1/25/06, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My son has a toshiba laptop running XP. When ever he plugs in his network
 cable, The router linksys goes down. I cannot ping it from my machine.
 Rebooting the router allows all machines to reach internet and LAN addresses
 for a few seconds until the router crashes again. Leaving the cable unplugged
 from his laptop allows the router to work properly. Any ideas?
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[gentoo-user] Problems with printer Canon LBP-800

2006-01-25 Thread Mikhail Yarmish

Hello guys,
   Has somebody setuped Canon LBP-800? Coud he explain how to do that? 
I've tried to do that like somebody sad at forums about LBP-810 but that 
haven't worked for me.

   Thanks in advance!
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[gentoo-user] Re: Dual Boot System Setup

2006-01-25 Thread James
Sean rsh.lists at comcast.net writes:


 I have a laptop I want to setup to boot either Gentoo or Windows.

 Looking around I am trying to find recommendations as to which is better 
 to install first, Gentoo or Windows. From what I found, either often 
 gets a recommendation.
 Would anyone recommend which is the best method for setup, start with 
 Gentoo or Windows?

Here's what works, flawlessly for me:

A: use the Gentoo live CD to boot up the laptop
1. check/note the hardware
lshw, lspci are great for this. Make sure drivers
exist for your video and ethernet hardware.

B: Decide to proceed:

1. If windoz is not already installed, install it.
2. Use Partion Magic to reduce the partion size of the
windows install and put the remainder into a second partion.
Installing partion magic under windoze is a great idea for 
later resizing of the windoz partition(s).
3. Install Gentoo. During your setup, you'll access the drive
not touching the first partion, and use a scheme like this:
  a. Follow the gentoo installation guide
  b. use the minimal partions as suggested in the guide
 1. for example one fstab possibility:
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0  
/dev/fd0 
proc
/dev/hda2   /boot  reiserfsnoatime,notail  1 2
/dev/hda3none  swapsw  0 0
/dev/hda4   /  reiserfsnotail  0 0

Your only allowed 3 primarys so I make the / dir an extended.

Once you install gentoo (follow the guide) on the second and 
fourth partition, you'll need to config grub.conf for dual boot
per the instructions. It takes some time, but well worth the effort.

 I also want to setup a common partition for data storage which both can 
 access. Again, can anyone recommend a setup?

I'm not up on how stable the writing to NTFS is from the linux side,
but you'd add another (fifth partion) and use VFAT. Mount it from
both windows (using partion magic) and Linux and you can move file
between the OSes or share music and such..


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.

2006-01-25 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 13:42, a tiny voice compelled 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to write:
 Recheck (I assume you've checked it already G) his network settings.  He
 may have a bad card.  Can you setup a network trace/sniffer on your linux
 box to see what happens?  Also the Linksys will log some events - check
 it's log setup and see how detailed you can get.

  From: Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2006/01/25 Wed PM 01:36:44 EST
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
  Subject: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.
 
  My son has a toshiba laptop running XP. When ever he plugs in his network
  cable, The router linksys goes down. I cannot ping it from my machine.
  Rebooting the router allows all machines to reach internet and LAN
  addresses for a few seconds until the router crashes again. Leaving the
  cable unplugged from his laptop allows the router to work properly. Any
  ideas?
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I played a bit with his laptop (damn it's a bi**h to do anything with winders) 
and found that Internet Connection Sharing was enabled. I disabled same and 
it seems to have done the trick. My God! I fealt like a noobie trying to 
fumble my way around that thing. Is there no way of restarting the network on 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.

2006-01-25 Thread Trenton Adams
You can restart the network on XP by right clicking the network
connection and clicking repair I believe.

On 1/25/06, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 January 2006 13:42, a tiny voice compelled
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to write:
  Recheck (I assume you've checked it already G) his network settings.  He
  may have a bad card.  Can you setup a network trace/sniffer on your linux
  box to see what happens?  Also the Linksys will log some events - check
  it's log setup and see how detailed you can get.
 
   From: Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: 2006/01/25 Wed PM 01:36:44 EST
   To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
   Subject: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.
  
   My son has a toshiba laptop running XP. When ever he plugs in his network
   cable, The router linksys goes down. I cannot ping it from my machine.
   Rebooting the router allows all machines to reach internet and LAN
   addresses for a few seconds until the router crashes again. Leaving the
   cable unplugged from his laptop allows the router to work properly. Any
   ideas?
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 I played a bit with his laptop (damn it's a bi**h to do anything with winders)
 and found that Internet Connection Sharing was enabled. I disabled same and
 it seems to have done the trick. My God! I fealt like a noobie trying to
 fumble my way around that thing. Is there no way of restarting the network on
 XP?
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.

2006-01-25 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 14:39, a tiny voice compelled Trenton Adams to 
write:
 You can restart the network on XP by right clicking the network
 connection and clicking repair I believe.

Hmm might work. ipconfig /release
and then 
ipconfig /renew still seem to need a reboot, though ipconfig will show a valid 
IP#.  I used to know winders pretty good. Of course that was 7 years ago.

 On 1/25/06, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 January 2006 13:42, a tiny voice compelled
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] to write:
   Recheck (I assume you've checked it already G) his network settings. 
   He may have a bad card.  Can you setup a network trace/sniffer on your
   linux box to see what happens?  Also the Linksys will log some events -
   check it's log setup and see how detailed you can get.
  
From: Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/01/25 Wed PM 01:36:44 EST
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.
   
My son has a toshiba laptop running XP. When ever he plugs in his
network cable, The router linksys goes down. I cannot ping it from my
machine. Rebooting the router allows all machines to reach internet
and LAN addresses for a few seconds until the router crashes again.
Leaving the cable unplugged from his laptop allows the router to work
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  I played a bit with his laptop (damn it's a bi**h to do anything with
  winders) and found that Internet Connection Sharing was enabled. I
  disabled same and it seems to have done the trick. My God! I fealt like a
  noobie trying to fumble my way around that thing. Is there no way of
  restarting the network on XP?
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[gentoo-user] Re: php blocking

2006-01-25 Thread James
Uwe Thiem uwix at iway.na writes:


 Just emerge --unmerge php and emerge dev-lang/php. You will have to fiddle 
 with the USE flags for php a bit.

# emerge --unmerge php
--- Couldn't find php to unmerge.
unmerge: No packages selected for removal.

That's the problem it does not see the php or pear modules.

emerge --unmerge pear
--- Couldn't find pear to unmerge.
unmerge: No packages selected for removal.

I even 'emerge --sync' again, today and still
I have:


[blocks B ] dev-php/mod_php (is blocking dev-lang/php-5.0.5-r5)
[blocks B ] dev-php/php (is blocking dev-lang/php-5.0.5-r5)
[blocks B ] dev-php/mod_php (is blocking dev-php/PEAR-PEAR-1.4.6-r1)
[blocks B ] dev-php/php (is blocking dev-php/PEAR-PEAR-1.4.6-r1)


ideas?


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.

2006-01-25 Thread Phil Sexton

Ernie Schroder wrote:
Is there no way of restarting the network on 
XP?


From the dos prompt, command:

ipconfig /renew

(I think)

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[gentoo-user] Using 'world' file to clone another machine

2006-01-25 Thread Jeff
I'm sure this one's been asked a million times too...

Machine A, runs Gentoo/KDE and a handful of other apps I've collected
over the year.

I would like Machine B to have the same exact packages.

How would I use Machine A's /var/lib/portage/world file to make my 'clone'?

Thanks all.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Using 'world' file to clone another machine

2006-01-25 Thread Michael A. Smith

Jeff wrote:

I'm sure this one's been asked a million times too...

Machine A, runs Gentoo/KDE and a handful of other apps I've collected
over the year.

I would like Machine B to have the same exact packages.

How would I use Machine A's /var/lib/portage/world file to make my 'clone'?

Thanks all.


Hypothetically (I haven't tried it.)

1) scp a:/etc/make.conf b:/etc/make.conf
2) modify the CFLAGS in b:/etc/make.conf to suit, but leave the USE 
unchanged.
3) do a basic install on b, you'll want to make sure it can boot into 
a kernel before you do the next step.

4) scp a:/var/lib/portage/world b:/tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst
5) emerge `cat /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst`



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Re: [gentoo-user] Using 'world' file to clone another machine

2006-01-25 Thread Michael A. Smith

Michael A. Smith wrote:

Jeff wrote:


I'm sure this one's been asked a million times too...

Machine A, runs Gentoo/KDE and a handful of other apps I've collected
over the year.

I would like Machine B to have the same exact packages.

How would I use Machine A's /var/lib/portage/world file to make my 
'clone'?


Thanks all.



Hypothetically (I haven't tried it.)

1) scp a:/etc/make.conf b:/etc/make.conf
2) modify the CFLAGS in b:/etc/make.conf to suit, but leave the USE 
unchanged.
3) do a basic install on b, you'll want to make sure it can boot into a 
kernel before you do the next step.

4) scp a:/var/lib/portage/world b:/tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst
5) emerge `cat /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst`



Have a nice day.


Correction. emerge --ask `cat /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst`

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Re: [gentoo-user] Using 'world' file to clone another machine

2006-01-25 Thread Chris White
On Thursday 26 January 2006 06:03, Michael A. Smith wrote:
 Correction. emerge --ask `cat /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst`

Correction, Correction:
`emerge --ask $( /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst)`

or heck:

`emerge --ask  /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst`

might even work

 ;-D

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.

2006-01-25 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 14:52, a tiny voice compelled Phil Sexton to 
write:
 Ernie Schroder wrote:
  Is there no way of restarting the network on
  XP?

  From the dos prompt, command:

 ipconfig /renew

 (I think)


I did a release and renew and got a valid IP from the router but I couldn't 
connect to the internet until I rebooted. I didn't try pinging inside or 
outside of the LAN so I don't know what was up. Someone know a link to a 
sniffer how-to?
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.

2006-01-25 Thread Trenton Adams
Use ethereal, as it has a GUI.

On 1/25/06, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 January 2006 14:52, a tiny voice compelled Phil Sexton to
 write:
  Ernie Schroder wrote:
   Is there no way of restarting the network on
   XP?
 
   From the dos prompt, command:
 
  ipconfig /renew
 
  (I think)
 

 I did a release and renew and got a valid IP from the router but I couldn't
 connect to the internet until I rebooted. I didn't try pinging inside or
 outside of the LAN so I don't know what was up. Someone know a link to a
 sniffer how-to?
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Re: [gentoo-user] composing fancy html in kmail

2006-01-25 Thread Robert Persson
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 01:29 Michael Kintzios was like:
 I can't remember if Thunderbird has a GUI for HTML editing (never used
 it), but have you tried using applications like Quanta+ or even OOo as
 an external editor to kmail?

I did try using OOo. Unfortunately it could not manage to return something 
that the kmail compose window would even display as html, let alone allow me 
to embed pictures.

However I have now found that it +is+ possible to do everything I want in 
Evolution. Could this be time to switch? Does anyone has any thoughts or 
flames about kmail/kontact vs. evolution in general?

Many thanks
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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.

2006-01-25 Thread brettholcomb
Isn't windows fun G.  Someone has a sense of humor.  In my new assignment I 
am now the Administrator for Windows servers and SQL Servers!  I asked it that 
was because a) no one else wanted windows (we're AIX/Linux/Netware) and b) I 
was low man on the totem pole.  The answer was jokingly yes - plus I've worked 
with Windows before (guess my resume had to much info on it!).  Well I do get 
to run Linux here and at home.

 
 From: Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/25 Wed PM 02:36:51 EST
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.
 
 On Wednesday 25 January 2006 13:42, a tiny voice compelled 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to write:
  Recheck (I assume you've checked it already G) his network settings.  He
  may have a bad card.  Can you setup a network trace/sniffer on your linux
   gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
 
 I played a bit with his laptop (damn it's a bi**h to do anything with 
 winders) 
 and found that Internet Connection Sharing was enabled. I disabled same and 
 it seems to have done the trick. My God! I fealt like a noobie trying to 
 fumble my way around that thing. Is there no way of restarting the network on 
 XP?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Using 'world' file to clone another machine

2006-01-25 Thread Michael A. Smith

Chris White wrote:

On Thursday 26 January 2006 06:03, Michael A. Smith wrote:


Correction. emerge --ask `cat /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst`


Correction, Correction:
`emerge --ask $( /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst)`


Way to decrease entropy, Chris. Why don't you email the whole list 
and tell them how to implement a minute reduction in CPU cycles. ;-D

(I'm just kidding, this is a better way.)


or heck:

`emerge --ask  /tmp/welcome_to_my_world.lst`


This doesn't work, nor does

cat welcome_to_my_world.lst | emerge --ask
cat welcome_to_my_world.lst | emerge --pretend
cat welcome_to_my_world.lst | xargs emerge --ask

However,

cat welcome_to_my_world.lst | xargs emerge --pretend

does work.

I didn't try it without pretend, but I betcha it'd work.

Weird, huh?

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[gentoo-user] kernel config power-saving arcana; and getting acpi working.

2006-01-25 Thread Robert Persson
Some while back I was trying to get power saving working fully on my desktop 
box and I found people talking about swsusp (as opposed to swsusp2) being 
part of the official kernel sources. This puzzled me greatly because I have 
never come across this option when configuring a kernel. In the end I 
resigned myself to it being just one of those things.

However yesterday, while I was trying in vain to get at least one acpi 
function working, I became vastly more perplexed to find that there is 
supposed to be a kernel config parameter called CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP. Again, I 
have never come across this option when I have configured a kernel. Yet it is 
supposed to be part of the vanilla kernel (e.g. 2.6.15). Am I delusional?

I have tried a whole load of other things to get things like acpi sleep 
working, such as patching the 2.6.15 kernel with the patches from 
acpi.sourceforge.net, making sure APM is disabled, as well as patching the 
kernel with a debugged version of my motherboard's DSDT, but nothing gets any 
kind of suspend or sleep working.

I understand that I should be able to trigger power saving states by writing 
to /sys/power/state, but whenever I 'echo -n standby  /sys/power/state' or 
'echo mem  /sys/power/state', even as root, nothing happens. I have checked 
the write permissions and they are fine. However 'cat /sys/power/state' 
invariably returns 'standby mem', no matter what I do.

acpid works, at least to the extent that the machine will halt when the power 
button is pressed.

If I could ditch acpi and get by with apm then I would, however I am not 
optimistic about this because apm is supposed not to like multiple processors 
and I have a hyperthreading P4.

How am I to get power saving (well, sleep at least) working?

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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config power-saving arcana; and getting acpi working.

2006-01-25 Thread Ian Kester-Haney
On 1/25/06, Robert Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Some while back I was trying to get power saving working fully on my desktop
 box and I found people talking about swsusp (as opposed to swsusp2) being
 part of the official kernel sources. This puzzled me greatly because I have
 never come across this option when configuring a kernel. In the end I
 resigned myself to it being just one of those things.
Its a parameter that should point to an empty partition for the kernel
to park RAM information for use in a reboot.  Its like specifing a
specific hibernation file in windows, you pass the option to use the
suspend partition to start the system.

 However yesterday, while I was trying in vain to get at least one acpi
 function working, I became vastly more perplexed to find that there is
 supposed to be a kernel config parameter called CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP. Again, I
 have never come across this option when I have configured a kernel. Yet it is
 supposed to be part of the vanilla kernel (e.g. 2.6.15). Am I delusional?

I have had my omputer sleep under linux, at least my STR part of it,
wakes up on keypress.
 I have tried a whole load of other things to get things like acpi sleep
 working, such as patching the 2.6.15 kernel with the patches from
 acpi.sourceforge.net, making sure APM is disabled, as well as patching the
 kernel with a debugged version of my motherboard's DSDT, but nothing gets any
 kind of suspend or sleep working.

I just enable ACPI
 I understand that I should be able to trigger power saving states by writing
 to /sys/power/state, but whenever I 'echo -n standby  /sys/power/state' or
 'echo mem  /sys/power/state', even as root, nothing happens. I have checked
 the write permissions and they are fine. However 'cat /sys/power/state'
 invariably returns 'standby mem', no matter what I do.

 acpid works, at least to the extent that the machine will halt when the power
 button is pressed.

 If I could ditch acpi and get by with apm then I would, however I am not
 optimistic about this because apm is supposed not to like multiple processors
 and I have a hyperthreading P4.

 How am I to get power saving (well, sleep at least) working?

 Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config power-saving arcana; and getting acpi working.

2006-01-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:48:55 -0800, Robert Persson wrote:

 Some while back I was trying to get power saving working fully on my
 desktop box and I found people talking about swsusp (as opposed to
 swsusp2) being part of the official kernel sources. This puzzled me
 greatly because I have never come across this option when configuring a
 kernel. In the end I resigned myself to it being just one of those
 things.

Type / followed by susp while in make menuconfig to find it. Just
browsing the options won't necessarily find what you want, because some
only appear when others are enabled, whereas the search function shows
all matching options, and tells you what else you need to enable.


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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config power-saving arcana; and getting acpi working.

2006-01-25 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 19:27, a tiny voice compelled Neil Bothwick to 
write:
 On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:48:55 -0800, Robert Persson wrote:
  Some while back I was trying to get power saving working fully on my
  desktop box and I found people talking about swsusp (as opposed to
  swsusp2) being part of the official kernel sources. This puzzled me
  greatly because I have never come across this option when configuring a
  kernel. In the end I resigned myself to it being just one of those
  things.

 Type / followed by susp while in make menuconfig to find it. Just
 browsing the options won't necessarily find what you want, because some
 only appear when others are enabled, whereas the search function shows
 all matching options, and tells you what else you need to enable.


Now THAT is about the most valuable tip I've ever hear of for making a kernel. 
I've never seen that documented before.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: php blocking

2006-01-25 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/25/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 # emerge --unmerge php
 --- Couldn't find php to unmerge.
 unmerge: No packages selected for removal.

 That's the problem it does not see the php or pear modules.

 emerge --unmerge pear
 --- Couldn't find pear to unmerge.
 unmerge: No packages selected for removal.

Try PEAR-PEAR (packages names are case-sensitive).


 I even 'emerge --sync' again, today and still
 I have:

Add the --tree option to see what is actually trying to bring in
dev-php/mod_php and dev-php/php.

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[gentoo-user] Strangeness on a fresh install

2006-01-25 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
Hi all, I am having a real strange problem on a fresh install, I had
used a stage3 tarball from internet and when I try to emerge syslog-ng
I got this error
checking for C compiler default output...configure: error: C compiler
cannot create executables
See config.log for more details.

I had a look at config.log and do not understand nothing can
someone help with that one

--
An application asked:
Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better,
so I've installed Linux
This file contains any messages produced by compilers while
running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.

It was created by configure, which was
generated by GNU Autoconf 2.59.  Invocation command line was

  $ ./configure --prefix=/usr --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man 
--infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc 
--localstatedir=/var/lib --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu

## - ##
## Platform. ##
## - ##

hostname = livecd
uname -m = i686
uname -r = 2.6.12-gentoo-r6
uname -s = Linux
uname -v = #1 SMP Wed Aug 3 20:26:57 UTC 2005

/usr/bin/uname -p = Pentium III (Coppermine)
/bin/uname -X = unknown

/bin/arch  = i686
/usr/bin/arch -k   = unknown
/usr/convex/getsysinfo = unknown
hostinfo   = unknown
/bin/machine   = unknown
/usr/bin/oslevel   = unknown
/bin/universe  = unknown

PATH: /sbin
PATH: /usr/sbin
PATH: /usr/lib/portage/bin
PATH: /bin
PATH: /usr/bin
PATH: /opt/bin
PATH: /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/3.3.5-20050130


## --- ##
## Core tests. ##
## --- ##

configure:1538: checking for a BSD-compatible install
configure:1593: result: /bin/install -c
configure:1604: checking whether build environment is sane
configure:1647: result: yes
configure:1680: checking for gawk
configure:1696: found /bin/gawk
configure:1706: result: gawk
configure:1716: checking whether make sets $(MAKE)
configure:1736: result: yes
configure:1924: checking whether build environment is sane
configure:1967: result: yes
configure:1978: checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
configure:1994: found /usr/bin/i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
configure:2004: result: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
configure:2286: checking for C compiler version
configure:2289: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc --version /dev/null 5
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc (GCC) 3.3.5-20050130 (Gentoo 3.3.5.20050130-r1, 
ssp-3.3.5.20050130-1, pie-8.7.7.1)
Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

configure:2292: $? = 0
configure:2294: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -v /dev/null 5
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/specs
Configured with: 
/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.5.20050130-r1/work/gcc-3.3.5/configure 
--enable-version-specific-runtime-libs --prefix=/usr 
--bindir=/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/3.3.5-20050130 
--includedir=/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/include 
--datadir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130 
--mandir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/man 
--infodir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/info 
--with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/include/g++-v3
 --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --disable-altivec 
--enable-nls --without-included-gettext --with-system-zlib --disable-checking 
--disable-werror --disable-libunwind-exceptions --disable-multilib 
--disable-libgcj --enable-languages=c,c++,f77 --enable-shared 
--enable-threads=posix --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu
Thread model: posix
gcc version 3.3.5-20050130 (Gentoo 3.3.5.20050130-r1, ssp-3.3.5.20050130-1, 
pie-8.7.7.1)
configure:2297: $? = 0
configure:2299: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -V /dev/null 5
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: `-V' option must have argument
configure:2302: $? = 1
configure:2325: checking for C compiler default output file name
configure:2328: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O3 -march=pentium3 -pipe 
-fomit-frame-pointer -msse -mmmx -mfpu   conftest.c  5
cc1: error: invalid option `fpu'
configure:2331: $? = 1
configure: failed program was:
| /* confdefs.h.  */
| 
| #define PACKAGE_NAME 
| #define PACKAGE_TARNAME 
| #define PACKAGE_VERSION 
| #define PACKAGE_STRING 
| #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT 
| /* end confdefs.h.  */
| 
| int
| main ()
| {
| 
|   ;
|   return 0;
| }
configure:2370: error: C compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details.

##  ##
## Cache variables. ##
##  ##

ac_cv_env_CC_set=
ac_cv_env_CC_value=
ac_cv_env_CFLAGS_set=set
ac_cv_env_CFLAGS_value='-O3 -march=pentium3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -msse 
-mmmx -mfpu'
ac_cv_env_CPPFLAGS_set=
ac_cv_env_CPPFLAGS_value=
ac_cv_env_CPP_set=
ac_cv_env_CPP_value=
ac_cv_env_CXXCPP_set=
ac_cv_env_CXXCPP_value=
ac_cv_env_CXXFLAGS_set=set
ac_cv_env_CXXFLAGS_value='-O3 -march=pentium3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -msse 
-mmmx -mfpu'
ac_cv_env_CXX_set=

Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness on a fresh install

2006-01-25 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 26 January 2006 11:49, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
 Hi all, I am having a real strange problem on a fresh install, I had
 used a stage3 tarball from internet and when I try to emerge syslog-ng
 I got this error
 checking for C compiler default output...configure: error: C compiler
 cannot create executables
 See config.log for more details.
 
 I had a look at config.log and do not understand nothing can
 someone help with that one

configure:2328: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O3 -march=pentium3 -pipe 
-fomit-frame-pointer -msse -mmmx -mfpu   conftest.c  5
cc1: error: invalid option `fpu'

These are the important lines. By the look of it you have -mfpu in your 
CFLAGS which, as the following output says, is not a valid option (unless you 
are running SPARC).

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[gentoo-user] Re: php blocking

2006-01-25 Thread James
Richard Fish bigfish at asmallpond.org writes:

 Try PEAR-PEAR (packages names are case-sensitive).

 # emerge --unmerge PEAR-PEAR
--- Couldn't find PEAR-PEAR to unmerge.
 unmerge: No packages selected for removal.

  I even 'emerge --sync' again, today and still
  I have:

 Add the --tree option to see what is actually trying to bring in
 dev-php/mod_php and dev-php/php.

# emerge --unmerge --tree PEAR-PEAR
 --tree implies --pretend... adding --pretend to options.
 These are the packages that I would unmerge:
--- Couldn't find PEAR-PEAR to unmerge.
 unmerge: No packages selected for removal.


I'm not so sure I tried what you are suggesting.
Can if I missed your point, can you be more explicit
in your syntax suggestions?


Remember, I ran eix php and eix pear and  now 'eix PEAR'
Absolutely nothing is installed with any of these
keywords in the name.on the system with this trouble.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: php blocking

2006-01-25 Thread Andreas Claesson
On 1/26/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Richard Fish bigfish at asmallpond.org writes:

  Add the --tree option to see what is actually trying to bring in
  dev-php/mod_php and dev-php/php.

 # emerge --unmerge --tree PEAR-PEAR
  --tree implies --pretend... adding --pretend to options.
  These are the packages that I would unmerge:
 --- Couldn't find PEAR-PEAR to unmerge.
  unmerge: No packages selected for removal.


 I'm not so sure I tried what you are suggesting.
 Can if I missed your point, can you be more explicit
 in your syntax suggestions?


He suggested that you should add --tree to the emerge
command you did when you got the blockings.
This will show in more detail what your problem is.

/Andreas

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: php blocking

2006-01-25 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/25/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Richard Fish bigfish at asmallpond.org writes:
  Add the --tree option to see what is actually trying to bring in
  dev-php/mod_php and dev-php/php.

 # emerge --unmerge --tree PEAR-PEAR
  --tree implies --pretend... adding --pretend to options.
  These are the packages that I would unmerge:
 --- Couldn't find PEAR-PEAR to unmerge.
  unmerge: No packages selected for removal.


 I'm not so sure I tried what you are suggesting.
 Can if I missed your point, can you be more explicit
 in your syntax suggestions?

I meant to add --tree to the command that is producing the block
messagesI can't give you the exact command because you haven't
ever posted the command you are using :P  But this should give you
some more insight:

emerge --deep --update --tree --verbose world

-Richard



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 Absolutely nothing is installed with any of these
 keywords in the name.on the system with this trouble.


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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config power-saving arcana; and getting acpi working.

2006-01-25 Thread Robert Persson
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 16:27 Neil Bothwick was like:
 Type / followed by susp while in make menuconfig to find it. Just
 browsing the options won't necessarily find what you want, because some
 only appear when others are enabled, whereas the search function shows
 all matching options, and tells you what else you need to enable.

Thank you very much indeed!

It turns out that my problem with not being able to configure acpi_sleep and 
swsusp in the kernel was to do with having SMP enabled for my hyperthreading 
P4 processor.

This means I need SMP_SUSPEND, which in turn depends on HOTPLUG_CPU.

Now to see if it works...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mysterious dev-lang/php 'n' junk 'n' stuff....

2006-01-25 Thread gentuxx
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Holly Bostick wrote:

gentuxx schreef:

Hi all,

snip

I went to do an `emerge -Duatv world` tonight, and I get dev-php/php
and dev-php/mod_php blocking. So I uninstalled them, and thought
that I would re-install later (if necessary). When I run it again, I
get dev-lang/php blocking dev-php/php-4.4.0-r4 (which is the one I
just unemerged). So, same logical progression, I go to unemerge
dev-lang/php, and, lo and behold, it's not installed.

snip

So, my questions to the group are these:

1) Why does `emerge -Duatv world` find a package (which blocks
another that it wants to update) that `emerge -CDatv world` does NOT
find?


As far as I know, emerge -CDatv world is not even a valid command (at
least I hope it isn't).

This translates to

emerge --unmerge --deep --ask --tree --verbose world, and it seems to me
would unmerge everything on your system if it was allowed.


The unemerge isn't run from the script.  The `emerge world` is.  I
would think that it would only unemerge package that depended solely
on the package being unemerged.  But, perhaps the '--deep' is ignored
in this case.  I have never seen another package being brought for
unemerging when using this command.


The usual use for --unmerge is to tell Portage what you specifically
want to unmerge; this should not be an automatic function (except in the
case of repair utilities such as depclean, which even those give you a
HUGE warning that unmerging random --as in not pre-specified by the
user, but determined by a script-- packages automatically can break the
system).

The actual answer to your question, though, is that the blocking package
is not a problem unless you want to emerge something that it blocks. So
of course it's not going to be noticed until you attempt to perform
such an action (emerging a package that is blocked by the installed
package).

Well, this is what I would like to do.  ( I thought this would be
obvious.)  But I can't continue with the `emerge world` unless I'm
able to resolve the blocks.  The command/process dies almost
immediately complaining about the blocked packages.

2) How do I rectify this little version discrepancy fixed so that
I can get things updating normally again?


Iirc from several threads recently, there are one or more packages on
your system that rely on php which must be updated to ~arch, or else
they keep trying to bring in PHP4 (only the ~arch version can depend on
PHP5; the stable versions have a fixed dependency on PHP4).

I don't remember which programs they are, but if you don't feel like
searching the archives, you can look at your tree view to see what is
actually pulling in PHP4, upgrading that (or keywording it to unstable,
rather) and see if you still get the block.


I had several keyworded before, and removing those keywords seemed
to eliminate *some* of the blocking problem.  I'll try
upgrading/keywording the ones that seem to depend on php4 in the hopes
that they are now wanting php5.

Hope this helps,
Holly



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[gentoo-user] no trouble getting to sleep, but would rather die than wake up

2006-01-25 Thread Robert Persson
I have finally got some acpi sleep states working on my desktop box (thanks 
everyone!), but not all the way I would like.

The box has an asus p4p800-se motherboard and a hyperthreading p4 processor. 
Hyperthreading is enabled in the kernel (which is why it was hard to find out 
how to get sleep enabled in the kernel config).

'echo standby  /sys/power/state' works fine.

'echo disk  /sys/power/state' doesn't, but I'm not worried for now. swsusp2 
conflicts (or used to) with reiser4 (which I use) and the original swsusp is 
known to have problems.

'echo mem  /sys/power/state' is what is frustrating. It goes to sleep 
alright, but I can't wake it up. The only thing that does anything is the 
power button, and what that does is send the system into shutdown. If the 
sleep state is initiated from a console, the screen remains black during the 
brief reawakening. If the sleep state is initiated from the X server then I 
get some kind of funny pattern on the screen of the kind that says that the 
video card is confused.

This last one is the sleep state I most want to use, so any help getting it to 
work properly would be much appreciated.

many thanks
Robert
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