[gentoo-user] question about wireless setting

2009-12-01 Thread 김무성
Hello list.

 

I have a laptop

I installed 2.6.30-r8

I wish to use wireless.

 

So. Type lspci.

 

localhost ~ # lspci

05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] 
Network Connection (rev 02)

 

And type iwconfig.

 

localhost ~ # iwconfig

lono wireless extensions.

 

eth0  no wireless extensions.

 

sit0  no wireless extensions.

 

localhost ~ #

 

 

I could see wireless driver when typed lspci.

But, when typed iwconfig, I can’t see wlan0.

 

So typed this

emerge ipw3945 and modprobe ipw3945

but result is same.

 

localhost ~ # iwconfig

lono wireless extensions.

 

eth0  no wireless extensions.

 

sit0  no wireless extensions.

 

localhost ~ #

 

 

what is a problem?



Re: [gentoo-user] question about wireless setting

2009-12-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 08:46:51 김무성 wrote:
 Hello list.
 
 
 
 I have a laptop
 
 I installed 2.6.30-r8
 
 I wish to use wireless.
 
 
 
 So. Type lspci.
 
 
 
 localhost ~ # lspci
 
 05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan]
  Network Connection (rev 02)
 
 
 
 And type iwconfig.
 
 
 
 localhost ~ # iwconfig
 
 lono wireless extensions.
 
 
 
 eth0  no wireless extensions.
 
 
 
 sit0  no wireless extensions.
 
 
 
 localhost ~ #
 
 
 
 
 
 I could see wireless driver when typed lspci.
 
 But, when typed iwconfig, I can’t see wlan0.
 
 
 
 So typed this
 
 emerge ipw3945 and modprobe ipw3945
 
 but result is same.
 
 
 
 localhost ~ # iwconfig
 
 lono wireless extensions.
 
 
 
 eth0  no wireless extensions.
 
 
 
 sit0  no wireless extensions.
 
 
 
 localhost ~ #
 
 
 
 
 
 what is a problem?

You have the wrong module. Use the one in the kernel.

emerge -C ipw3945
emerge net-wireless/iwl3945-ucode


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord fails to burn dvd

2009-12-01 Thread José Romildo Malaquias
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:44:13PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 José Romildo Malaquias j.romi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Then please test again with -v
 
  It works. See attached the output of the command:
 
  # script -f -c /var/tmp/CDRTOOLS/opt/schily/bin/cdrecord -v -sao -eject 
  speed=8 fs=256m driveropts=burnfree /var/tmp/image.iso 
  /var/tmp/cdrecord.log
 
 This is really good news and the -v output shows that the first 1-2 MB, there 
 is no display for the drive buffer fill ratio as cdrecord does not call read
 buffer cap. I just released 2.01.01a69 at:
 
 ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/
 
 that includes the change.
 
 Jörg

I want to thank Jörg for his persistence in helping me to solve the
issue with my system. Thanks for his effort, and for the solution he has
found.

Romildo



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-12-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:54:45 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote:

 you guys are killing me -- the problem goes away when the ac cord is
 plugged in. I open files watch videos surf the web and so on -- no
 problems. I'm no expert, but that would seem to suggest that the fs is
 OK, no? 

No! You're missing the point. You are telling us that the system works
fine if you fsck the root partition before trying to mount it rw, but
fails to mount if it is not fscked. That means there is something wrong.

Hint: I am typing this on an Asus Eee PC that was just booted up on
battery power.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

EASY TO INSTALL = Difficult to install, but instruction manual has
pictures.


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Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-12-01 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 06:54:45PM -0700, Penguin Lover Maxim Wexler squawked:
 you guys are killing me -- the problem goes away when the ac cord is
 plugged in. I open files watch videos surf the web and so on -- no
 problems. I'm no expert, but that would seem to suggest that the fs is
 OK, no? I set this forth above. Did your eyes glaze over at that
 point?

Nope. But please clarify if I remember wrong, since I have been only
half-following this thread since the beginning:

(a) When AC cord is plugged in, fsck runs on boot. 
(b) When running on battery, fsck refuses to run on boot. 
(c) When fsck does not run, your computer refuses to mount /var and
/home?

Are all three of the above assertions correct? 

If not, please correct our impressions. If yes, then what Alan and
Neil said are perfectly reasonable: 

(i) You have a broken ext2 file system. Probably marked dirty from a 
  bad unmount prior to shutdown. 
(ii) On boot, when the AC cord is plugged in, fsck runs, so any error
  is fixed, and if no error, the file system is marked clean again.
(ii') When running on battery, because devs don't want fsck to run half
  way and have the computer run out of battery (which may corrupt the
  FS beyond whatever state it is already in), fsck does not run. 
(iii) Since the file system is marked clean, when the AC cord is in,
  the system boots fine. Directories are mounted, you can use it as
  usual. 
(iii') When the AC cord is out, the file system is still marked dirty,
  since fsck did not have a chance to look at it. Mount refuses to
  process those directories because Bad Things (tm) can happen. So
  your boot fails. 

Again, if (a-c) are correct, then what Neil and Alan said does NOT in
anyway contradict your observation I quoted just above; in fact, your
quote seems to make their diagnosis even more reasonable. 

According to what I vaguely remember of this thread (again correct me
if I am wrong), you see the symptom that (iii) behaves differently
from (iii'), and want to fix it by making its immediate causes (ii)
and (ii') agree. What Neil and Alan are telling you is that (ii) vs
(ii') should never be a problem (and I agree: on my Gigabyte netbook
my ext2 and my ext3 partitions never showed any behaviour like yours),
and in fact it is probably by design. That the reason why (iii) and
(iii') differ is actually (i). 

If you think this analysis is incorrect, please point out exactly
where my assumptions went awry. 

Cheers, 

W

-- 
Unfamilliarity does bring terror, so I sympathize with those of you who 
aren't.
~DeathMech, S. Sondhi. P-town PHY 205
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Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-12-01 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 06:54:45PM -0700, Penguin Lover Maxim Wexler squawked:
 Roy Marples, who is a(the?) openrc developer, roped me into using git
 to do whatever git is supposed to do and now it's much worse.
 /dev/sd1 and 2 fail to mount as before PLUS many init services fail to
 start PLUS it no longer matters if the battery is being used or the ac
 cord: Chaos ensues, castles crumble, empires totter ...

Well, a question: after doing whatever Roy told you to do, does the
computer run fsck on boot at all (both with and without AC cord
please)? 

If it does not run fsck, then it further vindicates the points of many
of the individuals in this thread. Try booting into a rescue medium
and checking those filesystems. 

If it does run fsck... show us the actual error message perhaps? It
maybe that whatever you did left your system, excuse the pun,
completely fscked. 

W
-- 
Intolerant people should be shot.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass

2009-12-01 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 09:29:30PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked:
 chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:
 There is a tool I've used in the past called PasswordMaker. It uses a 
 master password and a flexible set of parameters to generate passwords and 
 if necessary, enter them on a site.

snip

 Once you enter the master password and select the appropriate settings 
 (length, character set, hashing algorithm etc etc), the password will be 
 generated. You can also use the current website as a salt, so using the 
 same settings will yield a different password for different sites.

Isn't this just security by obscurity? You still use the same master
password: so finding out the one password is enough to break into ALL
your sites. The only additional protection you gain is by that the Bad
Guys do not know that you are using the tool. The salt hardly matters:
to make sure the plugin will behave the same if you run firefox from
different computers, they are still using the same hash function and
same salt for the same site. If someone is saavy enough to know the
list of websites you access and the usernames you use to access them,
then that someone should also be able to find out the tool you are
using for the passwords. 

In the end, I think it offers only marginally more protection than
having the same very strong password on all your sites. 

The only case I think encryption/hash approach is useful is when you
have a low security account (say an online game, or a MUD that you
connect to via telnet) whose password is transmited in plaintext. If
you insist on only using one master password, and don't want to bother
memorizing a different one for the low security account, I guess by
passing your password through a one-way hash makes it harder for your
other accounts to be compromised. But that's about it. 

Just my two cents 

W
-- 
Where do you get Mercury?

H.G. Wells
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Re: [gentoo-user] question about wireless setting

2009-12-01 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 03:46:51PM +0900, Penguin Lover ?? squawked:
 localhost ~ # lspci
 
 05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] 
 Network Connection (rev 02)

snip

 localhost ~ # iwconfig
 
 lono wireless extensions.
 
 eth0  no wireless extensions.
 
 sit0  no wireless extensions.
 

snip

 I could see wireless driver when typed lspci.

No you can't. You see the pci devices. You don't see drivers. You need
a drive either emerged or compiled into your kernel before the device
will function. 

snip

 So typed this
 
 emerge ipw3945 and modprobe ipw3945

Did these two commands return successfully? 
After running your modprobe, what does lsmod show?

Also, what kernel version are you running? If it is reasonably new, 
(newer than 2.6.24), then don't use the standalone drivers from
portage, please use the driver provided in the kernel. See
 http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Iwlwifi
for example configurations for kernels 2.6.{25,26,30}

But first you will have to remove ipw3945 and ipw3945-ucode from your
system, and you will also need to instal iwl3945-ucode instead. 

Cheers, 

W
-- 
Hospitality is making your guests feel at home even though you wish they were.
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Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??

2009-12-01 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 09:48:12PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked:
 
 

I would just love to help... but your Chrome Messenger seems to be
b0rked. 

W

-- 
Being politically correct means always having to say you're sorry.
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Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord fails to burn dvd

2009-12-01 Thread Dale

José Romildo Malaquias wrote:

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:44:13PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
  

José Romildo Malaquias j.romi...@gmail.com wrote:



Then please test again with -v


It works. See attached the output of the command:

# script -f -c /var/tmp/CDRTOOLS/opt/schily/bin/cdrecord -v -sao -eject speed=8 
fs=256m driveropts=burnfree /var/tmp/image.iso /var/tmp/cdrecord.log
  
This is really good news and the -v output shows that the first 1-2 MB, there 
is no display for the drive buffer fill ratio as cdrecord does not call read

buffer cap. I just released 2.01.01a69 at:

ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/

that includes the change.

Jörg



I want to thank Jörg for his persistence in helping me to solve the
issue with my system. Thanks for his effort, and for the solution he has
found.

Romildo
  


When it comes to CD/DVD stuff, he's the man.  He sort of reminds me of a 
transmission commercial.  If he can't fix it, then it ain't broke.  lol


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] question about wireless setting

2009-12-01 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2009/12/1 Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu:
 On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 03:46:51PM +0900, Penguin Lover ?? squawked:
 I could see wireless driver when typed lspci.

 No you can't. You see the pci devices. You don't see drivers. You need
 a drive either emerged or compiled into your kernel before the device
 will function.


Afaik lspci -v shows the driver in use.

-- 
Daniel Pielmeier



Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??

2009-12-01 Thread Dale

Willie Wong wrote:

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 09:48:12PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked:
  



I would just love to help... but your Chrome Messenger seems to be
b0rked. 


W

  


I'll enter this again in a bit.  I have since went back to Seamonkey 1.  
It appears Seamonkey 2 and KDE 4 are really good bed buddies right now.  
They LOOK all cute and fuzzy but are not quite ready for prime time.


Why not copy from the message I sent you ask?  It's blank to.  Not so 
much as a period or any other pixels that are useful.


Thanks for letting me know this was blank.  Gmail doesn't send me a copy 
back so I had no clue.  I thought I had stumped everyone with this one.  O_O


Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] gcc 4.2.4 fails to build

2009-12-01 Thread Roger Mason
Hello,

I need to build gcc 4.2 on a core 2 duo system.  The only 4.2.x version
is 4.2.4, which is masked by ~.  When I try to build it fails:

...
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc 
-B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/build/./gcc/ 
-B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/ -isystem 
/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include 
-O2  -O2 -O2 -march=core2 -pipe  -DIN_GCC-W -Wall -Wwrite-strings 
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition  -isystem 
./include  -fPIC -g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED  
-msse -c \

/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c
 \
-o crtfastmath.o
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c:1:
 error: bad value (core2) for -march= switch
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c:1:
error: bad value (core2) for -mtune= switch

I do indeed have -march=core2 in /etc/make.conf.  I suppose I could
change -march= to something else and try again - but what should I
change it to?  gcc-4.2.4 would only be used for non-portage compiling
so, am I right in thinking that after it is built it would be safe to
revert to -march=core2?

Thanks,
Roger



Re: [gentoo-user] OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml

2009-12-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 November 2009 00:06:23 daid kahl wrote:
 I've been getting the same silly OpenOffice compile error for a couple
 weeks now.  Nothing I can search up or think of seems to do the trick.
  Since it takes about 2 hours + to crash out (the *exact* same way),
 it's also not trivial to try lots of different ideas.  I'd read
 something that suggested maybe I should update my kernel, so I got
 around to that last week, but it doesn't change the error.
 revdep-rebuild says the linking is fine.


Somewhere in this thread was a mention of a failed patch.

Where version of patch are you using? If it's 2.6, downgrade it as 2.6 is 
horribly broken

http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/12/01/gentoo-service-announcement-keep-clear-of-
gnu-patch-2-6


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass

2009-12-01 Thread Dale

Willie Wong wrote:

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 09:29:30PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked:
  

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:

There is a tool I've used in the past called PasswordMaker. It uses a 
master password and a flexible set of parameters to generate passwords and 
if necessary, enter them on a site.
  


snip

  
Once you enter the master password and select the appropriate settings 
(length, character set, hashing algorithm etc etc), the password will be 
generated. You can also use the current website as a salt, so using the 
same settings will yield a different password for different sites.
  


Isn't this just security by obscurity? You still use the same master
password: so finding out the one password is enough to break into ALL
your sites. The only additional protection you gain is by that the Bad
Guys do not know that you are using the tool. The salt hardly matters:
to make sure the plugin will behave the same if you run firefox from
different computers, they are still using the same hash function and
same salt for the same site. If someone is saavy enough to know the
list of websites you access and the usernames you use to access them,
then that someone should also be able to find out the tool you are
using for the passwords. 


In the end, I think it offers only marginally more protection than
having the same very strong password on all your sites. 


The only case I think encryption/hash approach is useful is when you
have a low security account (say an online game, or a MUD that you
connect to via telnet) whose password is transmited in plaintext. If
you insist on only using one master password, and don't want to bother
memorizing a different one for the low security account, I guess by
passing your password through a one-way hash makes it harder for your
other accounts to be compromised. But that's about it. 

Just my two cents 


W
  


Well this is where some things are not real clear.  I'm not sure when 
the master password would be sent to the website.  It may be only when 
doing the setup but you could be right.


Of course, I also read a study done by a group of Universities a few 
years ago that said a LOT of the security stuff that is done doesn't 
really work.  If a person uses common information for their password, 
then anything the websites do is pretty much meaningless anyway.  I 
actually sent a link to my bank regarding the specific set up they are 
using. 

I think the point is, a good secure password is the best policy.  For me 
tho, having a good tool that is local and secure to type that sucker in 
for me is really good.  I'm not worried about someone stealing my 
computer and gaining access that way, I'm just worried that someone 
could keep banging away at my password until it guesses it.  As 
mentioned before, my password is not anything related to information 
about me but just a random bunch of stuff.  Given time tho, a hacker 
would eventually guess it. 


Dale

:-)  :-)



[gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?

2009-12-01 Thread laurent

Hi,

Is it a common thing, or really easy to do,  to redirect the content 
from a server to another one?


Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all 
data travelling there??


Thanks for information.
Laurent



Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 4.2.4 fails to build

2009-12-01 Thread Zeerak Waseem
if you're using an intel core2 processor, the proper -march setting is  
-march=nocona


On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:26:28 +0100, Roger Mason rma...@mun.ca wrote:


Hello,

I need to build gcc 4.2 on a core 2 duo system.  The only 4.2.x version
is 4.2.4, which is masked by ~.  When I try to build it fails:

...
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc  
-B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/build/./gcc/  
-B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/ -isystem  
/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem  
/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include -O2  -O2 -O2 -march=core2 -pipe   
-DIN_GCC-W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes  
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition  -isystem ./include  -fPIC  
-g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED  -msse -c \
		/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c  
\

-o crtfastmath.o
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c:1:  
error: bad value (core2) for -march= switch

/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c:1:
error: bad value (core2) for -mtune= switch

I do indeed have -march=core2 in /etc/make.conf.  I suppose I could
change -march= to something else and try again - but what should I
change it to?  gcc-4.2.4 would only be used for non-portage compiling
so, am I right in thinking that after it is built it would be safe to
revert to -march=core2?

Thanks,
Roger







[gentoo-user] Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug

2009-12-01 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Everyone should read the following and follow the advice given:

http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/12/01/gentoo-service-announcement-keep-clear-of-gnu-patch-2-6




Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??

2009-12-01 Thread Dale

Willie Wong wrote:

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 09:48:12PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked:
  



I would just love to help... but your Chrome Messenger seems to be
b0rked. 


W

  


OK.  I'm not sure how I did this before but here we go with version 2.0. 


I sync'ed last night, ran emerge -uvDNa world and got this:

r...@smoker / # emerge -uvDNa world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy ~net-libs/ortp-0.7.1.
(dependency required by kde-base/kopete-3.5.10-r4 [ebuild])
(dependency required by kde-base/kdenetwork-meta-3.5.10 [installed])
(dependency required by kde-base/kde-meta-3.5.10 [installed])
(dependency required by @world [argument])

r...@smoker / #

As I understand this, kde-meta:3.5 is in world, which it is, kde-meta 
pulls in kdenetwork-meta which pulls in kopete.  It seems that kopete 
wants to install ortp.  I don't need it but this is where we are since I 
am using kde-meta.  This is using the kde-sunset layman thingy.  I'm not 
big on layman stuff but it keeps me a working KDE since KDE 4 is not 
ready yet.


Anyway, it claims it needs ortp-0.7.1 which according to google exists 
somewhere but it's not in portage.  I get that from here:


r...@smoker / # equery list -p net-libs/ortp
[ Searching for package 'ortp' in 'net-libs' among: ]
* installed packages
* Portage tree (/usr/portage)
[-P-] [  ] net-libs/ortp-0.13.1-r1 (0)
[-P-] [M~] net-libs/ortp-0.15.0 (0)
[-P-] [  ] net-libs/ortp-0.15.0_p1 (0)
[-P-] [M~] net-libs/ortp-0.16.0 (0)
r...@smoker / #

Two options.  1:  Convince portage not to install ortp somehow since I 
don't need it anyway.  2:  Figure out where it is so portage can find 
the package it needs which appears to not be in the tree and may be a 
seriously old version to boot.  I prefer #1 but #2 would be OK.


I'm scared of option #3.  I don't want to add any more overlay stuff.  
It makes portage really slow here  It takes several minutes sometimes 
for it to calculate what is needed for updates and such even where there 
is very little to update.  Let's drift away from that if we can.  ;-) 

Since I am back to my trusty old Seamonkey 1, let's see if this works 
better.  Ideas anyone?


Dale

:-)  :-)

P. S.  I like that Penguin Lover part up there.  I do love my Linux.  
Windoze is banned here.  Windoze is right above hal.  lol 



Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 4.2.4 fails to build

2009-12-01 Thread Steffen Loos

Roger Mason schrieb:

Hello,

I need to build gcc 4.2 on a core 2 duo system.  The only 4.2.x version
is 4.2.4, which is masked by ~.  When I try to build it fails:

...
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc 
-B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/build/./gcc/ 
-B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/ -isystem 
/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include 
-O2  -O2 -O2 -march=core2 -pipe  -DIN_GCC-W -Wall -Wwrite-strings 
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition  -isystem 
./include  -fPIC -g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED  
-msse -c \

/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c
 \
-o crtfastmath.o
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c:1:
 error: bad value (core2) for -march= switch
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c:1:
error: bad value (core2) for -mtune= switch

I do indeed have -march=core2 in /etc/make.conf.  I suppose I could
change -march= to something else and try again - but what should I
change it to?  gcc-4.2.4 would only be used for non-portage compiling
so, am I right in thinking that after it is built it would be safe to
revert to -march=core2?


You can try march=native.

Maybe it is a good choice for make.conf too?! 


And yes, you can switch back to core2 after emerge gcc-4.2.4. It's only used 
from emerge processes.

Steffen



Re: [gentoo-user] question about wireless setting

2009-12-01 Thread Dale

Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

2009/12/1 Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu:
  

On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 03:46:51PM +0900, Penguin Lover ?? squawked:


I could see wireless driver when typed lspci.
  

No you can't. You see the pci devices. You don't see drivers. You need
a drive either emerged or compiled into your kernel before the device
will function.




Afaik lspci -v shows the driver in use.

  


lspci -k is shorter which helps if in a console with big fonts. 


Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?

2009-12-01 Thread Marcus Wanner

On 12/1/2009 10:07 AM, laurent wrote:

Hi,

Is it a common thing, or really easy to do,  to redirect the content 
from a server to another one?


Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all 
data travelling there??


Thanks for information.
Laurent

And this is relevant here because?



Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??

2009-12-01 Thread Tony2
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:24:02 -0600
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Willie Wong wrote:
  On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 09:48:12PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale
  squawked: 
  
 
  I would just love to help... but your Chrome Messenger seems to be
  b0rked. 
 
  W
 

 
 OK.  I'm not sure how I did this before but here we go with version
 2.0. 
 
 I sync'ed last night, ran emerge -uvDNa world and got this:
 
 r...@smoker / # emerge -uvDNa world
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 
 emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy ~net-libs/ortp-0.7.1.
 (dependency required by kde-base/kopete-3.5.10-r4 [ebuild])
 (dependency required by kde-base/kdenetwork-meta-3.5.10 [installed])
 (dependency required by kde-base/kde-meta-3.5.10 [installed])
 (dependency required by @world [argument])
 
 r...@smoker / #
 
 As I understand this, kde-meta:3.5 is in world, which it is, kde-meta 
 pulls in kdenetwork-meta which pulls in kopete.  It seems that kopete 
 wants to install ortp.  I don't need it but this is where we are
 since I am using kde-meta.  This is using the kde-sunset layman
 thingy.  I'm not big on layman stuff but it keeps me a working KDE
 since KDE 4 is not ready yet.
 
 Anyway, it claims it needs ortp-0.7.1 which according to google
 exists somewhere but it's not in portage.  I get that from here:
 
 r...@smoker / # equery list -p net-libs/ortp
 [ Searching for package 'ortp' in 'net-libs' among: ]
  * installed packages
  * Portage tree (/usr/portage)
 [-P-] [  ] net-libs/ortp-0.13.1-r1 (0)
 [-P-] [M~] net-libs/ortp-0.15.0 (0)
 [-P-] [  ] net-libs/ortp-0.15.0_p1 (0)
 [-P-] [M~] net-libs/ortp-0.16.0 (0)
 r...@smoker / #
 
 Two options.  1:  Convince portage not to install ortp somehow since
 I don't need it anyway.  2:  Figure out where it is so portage can
 find the package it needs which appears to not be in the tree and may
 be a seriously old version to boot.  I prefer #1 but #2 would be OK.
 
 I'm scared of option #3.  I don't want to add any more overlay
 stuff. It makes portage really slow here  It takes several minutes
 sometimes for it to calculate what is needed for updates and such
 even where there is very little to update.  Let's drift away from
 that if we can.  ;-) 
 
 Since I am back to my trusty old Seamonkey 1, let's see if this works 
 better.  Ideas anyone?
 
Add -jingle to wherever you want to keep your USE flags for kopete.
See kopete-3.5.10-r4 ebuild.
HTH
-- 
BigTone



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-12-01 Thread Marcus Wanner

On 11/30/2009 9:13 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:

Dan Cowsill danthe...@gmail.com writes:

  

As a matter of curiosity, why can't you open the case?



Aside from extreme laziness, I'd prefer to spend 2 seconds getting the
info than first pulling the machine out of some piled up mess of
several machines, then getting my beat up old body into some contorted
position where I can see inside, and finally just hoping I'll be able
to see something worthwhile that isn't covered with monstor Tuniq 120
cooler or some such.

So guess in short, it would be, aside from extreme
laziness extreme laziness...
  
Actually, I have found it difficult to find out the motherboard of a 
computer without taking the whole thing apart including the cooling fan 
(of course, it might just be me not knowing the correct way to check 
these types of things). It would be much easier to just compile and run 
a program, even if I had to ask here about which program to use.


Marcus



[gentoo-user] spamassassin error

2009-12-01 Thread Arnau Bria
Hi all,

I've a cron which trains my spamassassin and it has sttoped working:
/usr/bin/sa-learn --spam /home/arnau/Mail/SPAM/

ERROR: the Bayes learn function returned an error, please re-run with -D for 
more information

the problem comes because there's a missing package:
perl-core/DB_File

but seems that emerge doesn't want to install it, and I'm wondering
what use I'm missing:

[I] mail-filter/spamassassin
 Available versions:  3.1.8 3.1.8-r1 ~3.2.0 ~3.2.0-r1 ~3.2.1 3.2.1-r1 
~3.2.2 ~3.2.3 ~3.2.4 ~3.2.5 ~3.2.5-r1 {berkdb doc ipv6 ldap mysql postgres 
qmail sqlite ssl tools}
 Installed versions:  3.2.1-r1(06:15:05 PM 11/11/2009)(ssl -berkdb -doc 
-ipv6 -ldap -mysql -postgres -qmail -sqlite -tools)

or what I'm doing wrong :-)
do I have to add DB_File to world? cause if I install the package with
oneshot option, depclean wants to remove it.

Anyone faced same problem? 
Cheers,

-- 
Arnau Bria
http://blog.emergetux.net
Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity



Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?

2009-12-01 Thread Kyle Bader
 Is it a common thing, or really easy to do,  to redirect the content from a
 server to another one?

Change dns records/ip addresses?

 Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all data
 travelling there??

tcpdump?


-- 

Kyle



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-12-01 Thread daid kahl
 Roy Marples, who is a(the?) openrc developer, roped me into using git
 to do whatever git is supposed to do and now it's much worse.
 /dev/sd1 and 2 fail to mount as before PLUS many init services fail to
 start PLUS it no longer matters if the battery is being used or the ac
 cord: Chaos ensues, castles crumble, empires totter ...

If you don't know what git is, then probably it's a good idea to stay
far, far away from it.

It's just a repository for a number of project source code.  But
Gentoo is already building things from source and helping you to
configure that source code correctly based on your make.conf settings
and so on.

Unless you are a developer or trying to get around bugs in portage
where the ebuild isn't working, you should need to use git as a Gentoo
user.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with git, but I don't think
it's very good advice in this situation.  I can't see at all how it's
related to the problem except that someone who's not involved with
Gentoo wants to be sure it's not a Gentoo issue.  But there's no
reason to think it's a Gentoo-specific problem.

And, for the record, while people might be arguing with you, it's not
malicious.  We are only trying to help.

~daid



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-12-01 Thread daid kahl
 Unless you are a developer or trying to get around bugs in portage
 where the ebuild isn't working, you should need to use git as a Gentoo
 user.

*Shouldn't* need to use git.



Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?

2009-12-01 Thread laurent

laurent a écrit :

Hi,

Is it a common thing, or really easy to do,  to redirect the content 
from a server to another one?


Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all 
data travelling there??


Thanks for information.
Laurent



hm now I see in my webmin HTTP Tunnel. It would make ue of my server as 
a kind of proxy to reach an uri ?

Any link information about that matter would please me. :)

Thnaks
Laurent



Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?

2009-12-01 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On  1 Dec, laurent wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is it a common thing, or really easy to do,  to redirect the content 
 from a server to another one?
 
 Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all 
 data travelling there??
 

You might consider ssh tunneling

google for these 2 words, e.g. you get

http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/ssh-tunnel.html
https://calomel.org/firefox_ssh_proxy.html
http://members.shaw.ca/nicholas.fong/vnc/

and many more.

Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml

2009-12-01 Thread daid kahl

 Somewhere in this thread was a mention of a failed patch.

 Where version of patch are you using? If it's 2.6, downgrade it as 2.6 is
 horribly broken

 http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/12/01/gentoo-service-announcement-keep-clear-of-
 gnu-patch-2-6


There was some patching things that caught my eye related to redland.
However, I found out that it was applied in both OO.o-3.0.0 and
OO.o-3.1.1 and so I assumed it was not to blame.  I can't remember if
I actually posted about it in my brainstorming.

In any case, I have not modified patch since dealing with the OO.o
problems, and:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/patch-2.5.9  USE=-static 0 kB


Thanks for the notice, though.

~daid



Re: [gentoo-user] spamassassin error

2009-12-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
So the package needs another package and it's not in DEPENDS. Of course
--depclean will remove it if you emerge it with -1, what else would you
expect to happen?

So add it to world of course

On Dec 1, 2009 6:33 PM, Arnau Bria ar...@emergetux.net wrote:

Hi all,

I've a cron which trains my spamassassin and it has sttoped working:
/usr/bin/sa-learn --spam /home/arnau/Mail/SPAM/

ERROR: the Bayes learn function returned an error, please re-run with -D for
more information

the problem comes because there's a missing package:
perl-core/DB_File

but seems that emerge doesn't want to install it, and I'm wondering
what use I'm missing:

[I] mail-filter/spamassassin
Available versions:  3.1.8 3.1.8-r1 ~3.2.0 ~3.2.0-r1 ~3.2.1 3.2.1-r1
~3.2.2 ~3.2.3 ~3.2.4 ~3.2.5 ~3.2.5-r1 {berkdb doc ipv6 ldap mysql postgres
qmail sqlite ssl tools}
Installed versions:  3.2.1-r1(06:15:05 PM 11/11/2009)(ssl -berkdb -doc
-ipv6 -ldap -mysql -postgres -qmail -sqlite -tools)

or what I'm doing wrong :-)
do I have to add DB_File to world? cause if I install the package with
oneshot option, depclean wants to remove it.

Anyone faced same problem?
Cheers,

--
Arnau Bria
http://blog.emergetux.net
Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity


Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??

2009-12-01 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 08:24:02AM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked:
 emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy ~net-libs/ortp-0.7.1.
 (dependency required by kde-base/kopete-3.5.10-r4 [ebuild])
 (dependency required by kde-base/kdenetwork-meta-3.5.10 [installed])
 (dependency required by kde-base/kde-meta-3.5.10 [installed])
 (dependency required by @world [argument])

 As I understand this, kde-meta:3.5 is in world, which it is, kde-meta pulls 
 in kdenetwork-meta which pulls in kopete.  It seems that kopete wants to 
 install ortp.  

Isn't KDE 3 about to be axed? Maybe this is just extra incentive for
you to transition to KDE 4. :)

 I don't need it but this is where we are since I am using 
 kde-meta.  This is using the kde-sunset layman thingy.  I'm not big on 
 layman stuff but it keeps me a working KDE since KDE 4 is not ready yet.

 Anyway, it claims it needs ortp-0.7.1 which according to google exists 
 somewhere but it's not in portage.  I get that from here:

 r...@smoker / # equery list -p net-libs/ortp
 [ Searching for package 'ortp' in 'net-libs' among: ]
 * installed packages
 * Portage tree (/usr/portage)
 [-P-] [  ] net-libs/ortp-0.13.1-r1 (0)
 [-P-] [M~] net-libs/ortp-0.15.0 (0)
 [-P-] [  ] net-libs/ortp-0.15.0_p1 (0)
 [-P-] [M~] net-libs/ortp-0.16.0 (0)
 r...@smoker / #

Maybe, I am not saying that it'll work but it is worth a try, you can
send an e-mail to the kde team and ask nicely to have the needed
version of ortp included in the kde-sunset overlay? If it is a package
that is necessary for KDE 3 to work, and if they are already going
through the trouble of providing a sunset overlay, maybe it is not too
much to ask they also provide the e-builds for the supporting
libraries. 

Cheers, 

W
-- 
You feel stuck with your debt if you can't budge it.
Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1089 days, 16:35



Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??

2009-12-01 Thread daid kahl
 Thanks for letting me know this was blank.  Gmail doesn't send me a copy
 back so I had no clue.  I thought I had stumped everyone with this one.  O_O

I thought maybe you were testing some new super-concise method of
asking for help by including all relevant info in the subject line.

Hey...less to read!

~daid



Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?

2009-12-01 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 04:07:44PM +0100, Penguin Lover laurent squawked:
 Is it a common thing, or really easy to do,  to redirect the content from a 
 server to another one?

 Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all data 
 travelling there??

You need to be a bit more precise about what you mean...

If you are talking about client A sitting behind router B which
interfaces with Big Scary Internet C, then it is trivial for the
router B to have a transparent proxy or some other form of package
re-write that redirects your traffic. 

If you are talking about client A and server B and server C then it is
also trivial for server B to redirect all its traffic to server C. 

If you are talking about client A and server B and Bad server C and
attacker D, I don't see how in general the attacker D can redirect
traffic from B to C, unless D somehow sits on the only node that
connects A to B (in which case you are essentially back to scenario
1). (Yes yes, there are DNS injections and what nots, but in essence
they are just variations of scenario 1.) 

There are also other possible scenarios. So please describe in a bit
more detail what you are thinking of and why you care. 

Cheers, 

W


-- 
English lessons for programmers #28: 
Fewer is of type int; whereas less is of type double. 
Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1089 days, 16:41



[gentoo-user] Firefox crashes when open an menu

2009-12-01 Thread Frank Schwidom
Hi,

i installed the newest firefox and (www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.5.4)
and if i touch the menu or if i want to use the contextual menu then the
browser freezes. I made already revdep-rebuild.

Any idea?

Regards
Frank Schwidom



Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?

2009-12-01 Thread laurent

Marcus Wanner a écrit :

On 12/1/2009 10:07 AM, laurent wrote:

Hi,

Is it a common thing, or really easy to do,  to redirect the content 
from a server to another one?


Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all 
data travelling there??


Thanks for information.
Laurent

And this is relevant here because?



hm yes true. Because I'm sure some people know that here and it's about 
network, server, gentoo is a network based operating system.(-ok this 
is not somehow true but..)
Because you guys are damn good geeks so I would find some common 
interest here.


Ok I know this subject can relate to hacking where my point is not here 
at all. I just poped on configuring my server on that security issue.
If not using SSL with proper certificate it was made possible to tunnel 
my remote communication with my server.

And then I found also this HTTP Tunnel module in my webmin.
So I wanted to have more information about all this, and so you're the 
people I relate too.


cheers
Laurent



Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??

2009-12-01 Thread Dale

Tony2 wrote:

Add -jingle to wherever you want to keep your USE flags for kopete.
See kopete-3.5.10-r4 ebuild.
HTH
  


Thanks.  I couldn't get it to show me the USE flags, just that error.  
But it started a whole new error.  Sorry this is sort of long.


r...@smoker / # emerge -uvDNa world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:

kde-base/libknotificationitem:4.3

 ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.1', 'merge') pulled 
in by
   =kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.1[-kdeprefix] required by 
('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.1', 'merge')
   =kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.1[-kdeprefix] required by 
('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.1', 'merge')
   =kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.1[-kdeprefix] required by 
('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.1', 'merge')

   (and 1 more)

 ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.3', 'nomerge') 
pulled in by
   =kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by 
('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kde-env-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
   =kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by 
('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
   =kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by 
('installed', '/', 'kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.3', 'nomerge')

   (and 228 more)

kde-base/kdebase-data:4.3

 ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.3', 'nomerge') pulled in by
   =kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', 
'/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
   =kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', 
'/', 'kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.3.3', 'nomerge')


 ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.1', 'merge') pulled in by
   =kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.1:4.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('ebuild', 
'/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.1-r2', 'merge')


kde-base/ktimezoned:4.3

 ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.3', 'nomerge') pulled in by
   =kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', 
'/', 'kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
   =kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', 
'/', 'kde-base/kdebase-startkde-4.3.3-r1', 'nomerge')
   =kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', 
'/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.3', 'nomerge')


 ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.1', 'merge') pulled in by
   =kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.1:4.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('ebuild', 
'/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.1-r2', 'merge')


kde-base/kdelibs:4.3

 ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.1-r2', 'merge') pulled in by
   =kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.1[-kdeprefix] required by ('ebuild', '/', 
'kde-base/kde-env-4.3.1', 'merge')
   =kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.1[-kdeprefix] required by ('ebuild', '/', 
'kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.1', 'merge')
   =kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.1[-kdeprefix] required by ('ebuild', '/', 
'kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.1', 'merge')

   (and 5 more)

 ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.3', 'nomerge') pulled in by
   =kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 
'kde-base/kde-env-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
   =kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 
'kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
   =kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 
'kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.3', 'nomerge')

   (and 239 more)

kde-base/libkcddb:4.3

 ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.3', 'nomerge') pulled in by
   =kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 
'kde-base/kdemultimedia-kioslaves-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
   =kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 
'kde-base/kscd-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
   =kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 
'kde-base/kdemultimedia-meta-4.3.3', 'nomerge')


 ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.1', 'merge') pulled in by
   =kde-base/libkcddb-4.3 required by ('installed', '/', 
'app-cdr/k3b-1.68.0_alpha3', 'nomerge')


kde-base/kde-env:4.3

 ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kde-env-4.3.3', 'nomerge') pulled in by
   =kde-base/kde-env-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 
'kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.3', 'nomerge')


 ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kde-env-4.3.1', 'merge') pulled in by
   =kde-base/kde-env-4.3.1:4.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('ebuild', '/', 
'kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.1-r2', 'merge')


kde-base/oxygen-icons:4.3

 ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/oxygen-icons-4.3.1', 'merge') pulled in by
   =kde-base/oxygen-icons-4.3.1:4.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('ebuild', 
'/', 'kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.1', 'merge')


 ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/oxygen-icons-4.3.3', 'nomerge') pulled in by
   =kde-base/oxygen-icons-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', 
'/', 'kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.3', 'nomerge')



It may be possible to solve this problem by using package.mask to
prevent one of those 

Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!FIXED -- almost

2009-12-01 Thread Maxim Wexler
On 12/1/09, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:54:45 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote:

 you guys are killing me -- the problem goes away when the ac cord is
 plugged in. I open files watch videos surf the web and so on -- no
 problems. I'm no expert, but that would seem to suggest that the fs is
 OK, no?

 No! You're missing the point. You are telling us that the system works
 fine if you fsck the root partition before trying to mount it rw, but
 fails to mount if it is not fscked. That means there is something wrong.

To hell with that. Read the damn title of THIS THREAD!!

 Hint: I am typing this on an Asus Eee PC that was just booted up on
 battery power.


so what? it isn't mine. You trying to say your hardware and data are
electron for electron and bit for bit a clone of mine?

marples git openrc repo wiped my fsck and I forgot to add the line
'sleep 5' in the fsck start() func. Voila! Volumes mount -- no
problem.

Everything boots fine with battery power or AC. Problem sorted.

Only thing, git sync failed to update /etc/init.d/net.lo. In
/var/git/openrc net.lo.in for some reason was not transformed into
net.lo and copied to /etc/init.d/. So of course net.lo and
net.eth0(the symlink) are not available when boot completes.

Now if you will just withdraw your fangs and help me with this
latest glitch I'll be muy contento.

mw



Re: [gentoo-user] spamassassin error

2009-12-01 Thread Stroller


On 1 Dec 2009, at 16:30, Arnau Bria wrote:

...
the problem comes because there's a missing package:
perl-core/DB_File
...
do I have to add DB_File to world? cause if I install the package with
oneshot option, depclean wants to remove it.


`emerge -1 perl-core/DB_File` and file a bug.

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?

2009-12-01 Thread laurent

Willie Wong a écrit :

On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 04:07:44PM +0100, Penguin Lover laurent squawked:
  
Is it a common thing, or really easy to do,  to redirect the content from a 
server to another one?


Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all data 
travelling there??



You need to be a bit more precise about what you mean...

If you are talking about client A sitting behind router B which
interfaces with Big Scary Internet C, then it is trivial for the
router B to have a transparent proxy or some other form of package
re-write that redirects your traffic. 


If you are talking about client A and server B and server C then it is
also trivial for server B to redirect all its traffic to server C. 


If you are talking about client A and server B and Bad server C and
attacker D, I don't see how in general the attacker D can redirect
traffic from B to C, unless D somehow sits on the only node that
connects A to B (in which case you are essentially back to scenario
1). (Yes yes, there are DNS injections and what nots, but in essence
they are just variations of scenario 1.) 


There are also other possible scenarios. So please describe in a bit
more detail what you are thinking of and why you care. 

Cheers, 


W


  


I was talking about the A,B,C,D case. You say this is not common or easy 
to achieve.
I was interested on how work tunneling and what are the possibilies of 
its use.

I will read that first:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_tunnel

:) thanks
Laurent





[gentoo-user] git openrc skips init service

2009-12-01 Thread Maxim Wexler
Hi group,

I used the repo offered by Tony Marples to update openrc(0.5.2-r2 -
0.5.2.4df8778) using git. It did a fine job except it failed to update
/etc/init.d/net.lo. The original instance remains.

Under /var/git/openrc all the init services were updated from
service.in to service and installed in /etc/init.d -- except for
net.lo.

Now net.lo and the symlink net.eth0 can't be found, fail to start etc.

I used /var/git/openrc/git pull --rebase to do the deed. Is there a
way to focus the command on just the one service?

Maxim



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-12-01 Thread Maxim Wexler
And, for the record, while people might be arguing with you, it's not
 malicious.  We are only trying to help.

Fine, then read what I say and, until you know better, believe it.



[gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-12-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Marcus Wanner marc...@cox.net writes:

 On 11/30/2009 9:13 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Dan Cowsill danthe...@gmail.com writes:

   
 As a matter of curiosity, why can't you open the case?
 

 Aside from extreme laziness, I'd prefer to spend 2 seconds getting the
 info than first pulling the machine out of some piled up mess of
 several machines, then getting my beat up old body into some contorted
 position where I can see inside, and finally just hoping I'll be able
 to see something worthwhile that isn't covered with monstor Tuniq 120
 cooler or some such.

 So guess in short, it would be, aside from extreme
 laziness extreme laziness...
   
 Actually, I have found it difficult to find out the motherboard of a
 computer without taking the whole thing apart including the cooling
 fan (of course, it might just be me not knowing the correct way to
 check these types of things). It would be much easier to just compile
 and run a program, even if I had to ask here about which program to
 use.

So I guess you suffer from the ExL syndrome too then ... hehe.




Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?

2009-12-01 Thread laurent

Helmut Jarausch a écrit :

On  1 Dec, laurent wrote:
  

Hi,

Is it a common thing, or really easy to do,  to redirect the content 
from a server to another one?


Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all 
data travelling there??





You might consider ssh tunneling

google for these 2 words, e.g. you get

http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/ssh-tunnel.html
https://calomel.org/firefox_ssh_proxy.html
http://members.shaw.ca/nicholas.fong/vnc/

and many more.

Helmut.

  

So it means I could always connect to internet through my remote server.
Anywhere I am on this planet I connect to my server and it/he get the 
content for me.

Kinda sweet.
Does it mean it could balance/regulate and augmente my bandwith power 
for my workstation?


Laurent



Re: [gentoo-user] spamassassin error

2009-12-01 Thread David
Arnau Bria wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I've a cron which trains my spamassassin and it has sttoped working:
 /usr/bin/sa-learn --spam /home/arnau/Mail/SPAM/
 
 ERROR: the Bayes learn function returned an error, please re-run with -D for 
 more information
 
 the problem comes because there's a missing package:
 perl-core/DB_File
 
 but seems that emerge doesn't want to install it, and I'm wondering
 what use I'm missing:
 
 [I] mail-filter/spamassassin
  Available versions:  3.1.8 3.1.8-r1 ~3.2.0 ~3.2.0-r1 ~3.2.1 3.2.1-r1 
 ~3.2.2 ~3.2.3 ~3.2.4 ~3.2.5 ~3.2.5-r1 {berkdb doc ipv6 ldap mysql postgres 
 qmail sqlite ssl tools}
  Installed versions:  3.2.1-r1(06:15:05 PM 11/11/2009)(ssl -berkdb -doc 
 -ipv6 -ldap -mysql -postgres -qmail -sqlite -tools)
 
 or what I'm doing wrong :-)
 do I have to add DB_File to world? cause if I install the package with
 oneshot option, depclean wants to remove it.
 
 Anyone faced same problem? 
 Cheers,
 
Looking at the ebuild looks like berkdb pulls it in;

spamassassin/spamassassin-3.2.1-r1.ebuild
berkdb? (
virtual/perl-DB_File


virtual/perl-DB_File/perl-DB_File-1.813.ebuild
DESCRIPTION=Virtual for DB_File
RDEPEND=~perl-core/DB_File-${PV}



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-12-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:57:58 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote:

 Fine, then read what I say and, until you know better, believe it.

OK, you're right, everyone else is wrong and there's no point in any of
us trying to help you.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

There is absolutely no substitute for a genuine lack of preparation.


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Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?

2009-12-01 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:53 PM, laurent laur...@logiquefloue.org wrote:
 Helmut Jarausch a écrit :

 On  1 Dec, laurent wrote:


 Hi,

 Is it a common thing, or really easy to do,  to redirect the content from
 a server to another one?

 Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all
 data travelling there??



 You might consider ssh tunneling

 google for these 2 words, e.g. you get

 http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/ssh-tunnel.html
 https://calomel.org/firefox_ssh_proxy.html
 http://members.shaw.ca/nicholas.fong/vnc/

 and many more.

 Helmut.



 So it means I could always connect to internet through my remote server.
 Anywhere I am on this planet I connect to my server and it/he get the
 content for me.
 Kinda sweet.
 Does it mean it could balance/regulate and augmente my bandwith power for my
 workstation?

 Laurent

Well, if you mean always connect to internet through your remote
server in terms of bypassing a firewall or silent proxy, possibly but
not guaranteed (and likely against whatever agreement you have that
put you in a position to be behind that firewall or proxy anyhow). To
use it for that purpose, you would have to be able to, at the least,
get to your remote server... which is just somewhere else on the
internet itself.

As for augmenting bandwidth for your local system, using the remote
one... not really, no. Whatever link you use to get to the remote
server is likely to be the same you're going to use to get to anywhere
else on the internet, and it's that last link that tends to be the
most limiting factor on speed. I have, however, used a slow link to
connect to a system I had on a faster link somewhere, downloaded the
files I wanted on that system, then pulled them off onto a usb drive
when I was physically with that system the next time... but trying to
pull from that system to where I was controlling it from would have
been the same as, if not slower than, pulling those files directly
from the original source.

So an all around yes, but no, answer ;)

-- 
Poison [BLX]
Joshua M. Murphy



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-12-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 22:19:24 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:57:58 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote:
  Fine, then read what I say and, until you know better, believe it.
 
 OK, you're right, everyone else is wrong and there's no point in any of
 us trying to help you.
 

Wise Chinese man say: young tempestuous fellow need to bang head on rock many 
more time before lesson be learned. Allow young man to bang head, obviously he 
like. Maybe he get head rush?

One day he'll realise that he has installed a combination of software packages 
that just does not do what suits him best. Then he will change it. Until then, 
well, many happy non-booting returns!


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??

2009-12-01 Thread Dale

Willie Wong wrote:

On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 08:24:02AM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked:
  

emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy ~net-libs/ortp-0.7.1.
(dependency required by kde-base/kopete-3.5.10-r4 [ebuild])
(dependency required by kde-base/kdenetwork-meta-3.5.10 [installed])
(dependency required by kde-base/kde-meta-3.5.10 [installed])
(dependency required by @world [argument])

As I understand this, kde-meta:3.5 is in world, which it is, kde-meta pulls 
in kdenetwork-meta which pulls in kopete.  It seems that kopete wants to 
install ortp.  



Isn't KDE 3 about to be axed? Maybe this is just extra incentive for
you to transition to KDE 4. :)

  


I have KDE 4, it doesn't work for some of the things I do therefore it 
is not a option at the moment.  It's not incentive that is lacking, it 
is being able to do the things that I need KDE 4 to do that is lacking.  
It's getting there but it's not there yet.


Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??

2009-12-01 Thread Dale

daid kahl wrote:

Thanks for letting me know this was blank.  Gmail doesn't send me a copy
back so I had no clue.  I thought I had stumped everyone with this one.  O_O



I thought maybe you were testing some new super-concise method of
asking for help by including all relevant info in the subject line.

Hey...less to read!

~daid
  


I thought I had a problem that had everyone stumped until I was told it 
was blank. 

For the record, if you plan to use Seamonkey for your email, it ain't 
ready just yet.  Need to wait a little longer.  Browser is great tho. 


Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-12-01 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 16:57, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote:
 And, for the record, while people might be arguing with you, it's not
 malicious.  We are only trying to help.

 Fine, then read what I say and, until you know better, believe it.


Your problem has nothing to do with openrc, kernels, etc. Your
filesystem is not cleanly umounting, and thus is marked dirty, mount
will not work because its considered danger to mount an unclean fs.
FSCK will not run cause it is extremely dangerous to run while on
battery, so this is all EXPECTED BEHAVIOR from the software.

Running fsck every boot is a workaround, not an answer to your
problem. We are trying to give you a solution, not a workaround. What
is your netbook model? This can narrow things down.

-- 
Daniel da Veiga



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-12-01 Thread Maxim Wexler
meh, you got nothing

On 12/1/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tuesday 01 December 2009 22:19:24 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:57:58 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote:
  Fine, then read what I say and, until you know better, believe it.

 OK, you're right, everyone else is wrong and there's no point in any of
 us trying to help you.


 Wise Chinese man say: young tempestuous fellow need to bang head on rock
 many
 more time before lesson be learned. Allow young man to bang head, obviously
 he
 like. Maybe he get head rush?

 One day he'll realise that he has installed a combination of software
 packages
 that just does not do what suits him best. Then he will change it. Until
 then,
 well, many happy non-booting returns!


 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com





[gentoo-user] how to know which driver a device is using?

2009-12-01 Thread Xi Shen
Hi,

when i start my system from gentoo live dvd, all my hardware works
fine. but if i want to have a small system, so i removed many drivers
when i am compiling my own system. the result is some times, i do not
know which driver should i choose for my hardware, and my hardware
cannot use when i boot from my new system.

i wonder if there is a way to see which driver is loaded for my
hardware. this should help me choose the drivers when compiling my
system.


-- 
Best Regards,
David Shen

http://twitter.com/davidshen84/
http://meme.yahoo.com/davidshen84/



Re: [gentoo-user] how to know which driver a device is using?

2009-12-01 Thread James Ausmus
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Xi Shen davidshe...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 when i start my system from gentoo live dvd, all my hardware works
 fine. but if i want to have a small system, so i removed many drivers
 when i am compiling my own system. the result is some times, i do not
 know which driver should i choose for my hardware, and my hardware
 cannot use when i boot from my new system.

 i wonder if there is a way to see which driver is loaded for my
 hardware. this should help me choose the drivers when compiling my
 system.


lspci -k

HTH

-James




 --
 Best Regards,
 David Shen

 http://twitter.com/davidshen84/
 http://meme.yahoo.com/davidshen84/




Re: [gentoo-user] how to know which driver a device is using?

2009-12-01 Thread Crístian Viana
you can try sys-apps/lshw

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Xi Shen davidshe...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 when i start my system from gentoo live dvd, all my hardware works
 fine. but if i want to have a small system, so i removed many drivers
 when i am compiling my own system. the result is some times, i do not
 know which driver should i choose for my hardware, and my hardware
 cannot use when i boot from my new system.

 i wonder if there is a way to see which driver is loaded for my
 hardware. this should help me choose the drivers when compiling my
 system.


 --
 Best Regards,
 David Shen

 http://twitter.com/davidshen84/
 http://meme.yahoo.com/davidshen84/




-- 
Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1]
Sent from Campinas, SP, Brazil


Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-12-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:14:09 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote:

 meh, you got nothing

Well, we haven't got broken systems that won't start up without a
filesystem repair at every boot. If that's nothing, nothing will do me.

If you really want help, I'd suggest you stop the tantrums, read the
advice you were given and hope there is still someone prepared to help
despite your attitude.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-12-01 Thread David Relson
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:10:41 -0600
Harry Putnam wrote:

 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes:
 
  On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:37:49 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
 
  How can I determine the motherboard make and model?  I mean without
  opening the case.
 
  sys-apps/lshw
 
 Good call Neil, I found that tool shortly after posting.  It gives as
 good as dmidecode, at least in my case.
 

hwinfo and lspci provide similar info to lshw.  They can be found in
sys-apps/hwinfo and sys-apps/pciutil.

For grins, whenever I restart my computer I run hwinfo, lshw, lspci,
and a variety of other utilities and save the results.  

That way, when next something goes wrong, I'll have a record of when
things went right and will (hopefully) be able to recover.



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-12-01 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote:
 We just want to help you -- that's what the police say before they tase your 
 ass

 On 12/1/09, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote:
 meh, you got nothing

 On 12/1/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tuesday 01 December 2009 22:19:24 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:57:58 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote:
  Fine, then read what I say and, until you know better, believe it.

 OK, you're right, everyone else is wrong and there's no point in any of
 us trying to help you.


 Wise Chinese man say: young tempestuous fellow need to bang head on rock
 many
 more time before lesson be learned. Allow young man to bang head,
 obviously
 he
 like. Maybe he get head rush?

 One day he'll realise that he has installed a combination of software
 packages
 that just does not do what suits him best. Then he will change it. Until
 then,
 well, many happy non-booting returns!


 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

I *almost* feel sorry for you, after several people here have tried to
help, even WITHOUT you giving an actual direct error message that
you're receiving beyond the *expected* behavior of the fsck being
skipped on boot, and even despite your being belligerent toward
several of the most helpful people I've seen on the list overall. What
I do fail to understand, though, is why a person would post, asking
for help, disregard every bit of help given, and *both* act as though
they're being forced to listen to help they didn't ask for *and* as
though they're not getting any help at all. If someone gives you an
answer that is wrong for the situation as you see it, it typically
means one of two things... 1) you didn't give all the details needed
for them to understand what you're seeing and to know WHY the answer
they're giving isn't correct, which  2) you're overlooking or ignoring
something that they're trying to point out in their answer and,
despite what you may want to hear, they are in fact correct. Now,
a-typically, it's possible you know what's wrong, what's causing it,
and the solution, so you can instantly know that answers you're
receiving are wrong... but in my experience, in those cases, people
don't waste other people's time asking for help.

-- 
Poison [BLX]
Joshua M. Murphy



Re: [gentoo-user] how to know which driver a device is using?

2009-12-01 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Xi Shen davidshe...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 when i start my system from gentoo live dvd, all my hardware works
 fine. but if i want to have a small system, so i removed many drivers
 when i am compiling my own system. the result is some times, i do not
 know which driver should i choose for my hardware, and my hardware
 cannot use when i boot from my new system.

 i wonder if there is a way to see which driver is loaded for my
 hardware. this should help me choose the drivers when compiling my
 system.


 --
 Best Regards,
 David Shen

 http://twitter.com/davidshen84/
 http://meme.yahoo.com/davidshen84/


Boot with the Gentoo install CD and the use lsmod and modinfo to build
a list of what's actually loaded. That will give you a good starting
point for what to choose in your kernel. If you end up building a few
extras or miss one at least you'll be pretty close in my experience.

Good luck,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-12-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 02 December 2009 01:25:16 David Relson wrote:

 For grins, whenever I restart my computer I run hwinfo, lshw, lspci,
 and a variety of other utilities and save the results.

Good God. I hope you don't do that more than once a decade. Just how 
long can a life be?

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-12-01 Thread Dale

Peter Humphrey wrote:

On Wednesday 02 December 2009 01:25:16 David Relson wrote:

  

For grins, whenever I restart my computer I run hwinfo, lshw, lspci,
and a variety of other utilities and save the results.



Good God. I hope you don't do that more than once a decade. Just how 
long can a life be?


  


Unless he changes hardware while it is shutdown.  I don't think the 
drivers have ever changed on my system since I built it.  I have had to 
add a couple, ethernet card and a SATA card, but other than that, it 
should be the same.


I have to say tho, booting a CD and doing lspci -k or -v is the best way 
to get the right drivers.  That is providing the hardware works when 
that is done.


Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-12-01 Thread Maxim Wexler
so tell me how come none of you quarter-brights have responded to the
email where I say this problem has been fixed?

you want to help? answer me this: why did # /var/git/openrc/git pull
--rebase update all init.d services except net.lo? That's today's
scintillating question.

On 12/1/09, Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote:
 We just want to help you -- that's what the police say before they tase
 your ass

 On 12/1/09, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote:
 meh, you got nothing

 On 12/1/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tuesday 01 December 2009 22:19:24 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:57:58 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote:
  Fine, then read what I say and, until you know better, believe it.

 OK, you're right, everyone else is wrong and there's no point in any of
 us trying to help you.


 Wise Chinese man say: young tempestuous fellow need to bang head on rock
 many
 more time before lesson be learned. Allow young man to bang head,
 obviously
 he
 like. Maybe he get head rush?

 One day he'll realise that he has installed a combination of software
 packages
 that just does not do what suits him best. Then he will change it. Until
 then,
 well, many happy non-booting returns!


 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

 I *almost* feel sorry for you, after several people here have tried to
 help, even WITHOUT you giving an actual direct error message that
 you're receiving beyond the *expected* behavior of the fsck being
 skipped on boot, and even despite your being belligerent toward
 several of the most helpful people I've seen on the list overall. What
 I do fail to understand, though, is why a person would post, asking
 for help, disregard every bit of help given, and *both* act as though
 they're being forced to listen to help they didn't ask for *and* as
 though they're not getting any help at all. If someone gives you an
 answer that is wrong for the situation as you see it, it typically
 means one of two things... 1) you didn't give all the details needed
 for them to understand what you're seeing and to know WHY the answer
 they're giving isn't correct, which  2) you're overlooking or ignoring
 something that they're trying to point out in their answer and,
 despite what you may want to hear, they are in fact correct. Now,
 a-typically, it's possible you know what's wrong, what's causing it,
 and the solution, so you can instantly know that answers you're
 receiving are wrong... but in my experience, in those cases, people
 don't waste other people's time asking for help.

 --
 Poison [BLX]
 Joshua M. Murphy





Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-12-01 Thread Maxim Wexler
should be /var/git/openrc# git pull --rebase

On 12/1/09, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote:
 so tell me how come none of you quarter-brights have responded to the
 email where I say this problem has been fixed?

 you want to help? answer me this: why did # /var/git/openrc/git pull
 --rebase update all init.d services except net.lo? That's today's
 scintillating question.

 On 12/1/09, Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 We just want to help you -- that's what the police say before they tase
 your ass

 On 12/1/09, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote:
 meh, you got nothing

 On 12/1/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tuesday 01 December 2009 22:19:24 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:57:58 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote:
  Fine, then read what I say and, until you know better, believe it.

 OK, you're right, everyone else is wrong and there's no point in any
 of
 us trying to help you.


 Wise Chinese man say: young tempestuous fellow need to bang head on
 rock
 many
 more time before lesson be learned. Allow young man to bang head,
 obviously
 he
 like. Maybe he get head rush?

 One day he'll realise that he has installed a combination of software
 packages
 that just does not do what suits him best. Then he will change it.
 Until
 then,
 well, many happy non-booting returns!


 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

 I *almost* feel sorry for you, after several people here have tried to
 help, even WITHOUT you giving an actual direct error message that
 you're receiving beyond the *expected* behavior of the fsck being
 skipped on boot, and even despite your being belligerent toward
 several of the most helpful people I've seen on the list overall. What
 I do fail to understand, though, is why a person would post, asking
 for help, disregard every bit of help given, and *both* act as though
 they're being forced to listen to help they didn't ask for *and* as
 though they're not getting any help at all. If someone gives you an
 answer that is wrong for the situation as you see it, it typically
 means one of two things... 1) you didn't give all the details needed
 for them to understand what you're seeing and to know WHY the answer
 they're giving isn't correct, which  2) you're overlooking or ignoring
 something that they're trying to point out in their answer and,
 despite what you may want to hear, they are in fact correct. Now,
 a-typically, it's possible you know what's wrong, what's causing it,
 and the solution, so you can instantly know that answers you're
 receiving are wrong... but in my experience, in those cases, people
 don't waste other people's time asking for help.

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 Poison [BLX]
 Joshua M. Murphy