[gentoo-user] question about wireless setting
Hello list. I have a laptop I installed 2.6.30-r8 I wish to use wireless. So. Type lspci. localhost ~ # lspci 05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) And type iwconfig. localhost ~ # iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. sit0 no wireless extensions. localhost ~ # I could see wireless driver when typed lspci. But, when typed iwconfig, I can’t see wlan0. So typed this emerge ipw3945 and modprobe ipw3945 but result is same. localhost ~ # iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. sit0 no wireless extensions. localhost ~ # what is a problem?
Re: [gentoo-user] question about wireless setting
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 08:46:51 김무성 wrote: Hello list. I have a laptop I installed 2.6.30-r8 I wish to use wireless. So. Type lspci. localhost ~ # lspci 05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) And type iwconfig. localhost ~ # iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. sit0 no wireless extensions. localhost ~ # I could see wireless driver when typed lspci. But, when typed iwconfig, I can’t see wlan0. So typed this emerge ipw3945 and modprobe ipw3945 but result is same. localhost ~ # iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. sit0 no wireless extensions. localhost ~ # what is a problem? You have the wrong module. Use the one in the kernel. emerge -C ipw3945 emerge net-wireless/iwl3945-ucode -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord fails to burn dvd
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:44:13PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: José Romildo Malaquias j.romi...@gmail.com wrote: Then please test again with -v It works. See attached the output of the command: # script -f -c /var/tmp/CDRTOOLS/opt/schily/bin/cdrecord -v -sao -eject speed=8 fs=256m driveropts=burnfree /var/tmp/image.iso /var/tmp/cdrecord.log This is really good news and the -v output shows that the first 1-2 MB, there is no display for the drive buffer fill ratio as cdrecord does not call read buffer cap. I just released 2.01.01a69 at: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/ that includes the change. Jörg I want to thank Jörg for his persistence in helping me to solve the issue with my system. Thanks for his effort, and for the solution he has found. Romildo
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:54:45 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote: you guys are killing me -- the problem goes away when the ac cord is plugged in. I open files watch videos surf the web and so on -- no problems. I'm no expert, but that would seem to suggest that the fs is OK, no? No! You're missing the point. You are telling us that the system works fine if you fsck the root partition before trying to mount it rw, but fails to mount if it is not fscked. That means there is something wrong. Hint: I am typing this on an Asus Eee PC that was just booted up on battery power. -- Neil Bothwick EASY TO INSTALL = Difficult to install, but instruction manual has pictures. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 06:54:45PM -0700, Penguin Lover Maxim Wexler squawked: you guys are killing me -- the problem goes away when the ac cord is plugged in. I open files watch videos surf the web and so on -- no problems. I'm no expert, but that would seem to suggest that the fs is OK, no? I set this forth above. Did your eyes glaze over at that point? Nope. But please clarify if I remember wrong, since I have been only half-following this thread since the beginning: (a) When AC cord is plugged in, fsck runs on boot. (b) When running on battery, fsck refuses to run on boot. (c) When fsck does not run, your computer refuses to mount /var and /home? Are all three of the above assertions correct? If not, please correct our impressions. If yes, then what Alan and Neil said are perfectly reasonable: (i) You have a broken ext2 file system. Probably marked dirty from a bad unmount prior to shutdown. (ii) On boot, when the AC cord is plugged in, fsck runs, so any error is fixed, and if no error, the file system is marked clean again. (ii') When running on battery, because devs don't want fsck to run half way and have the computer run out of battery (which may corrupt the FS beyond whatever state it is already in), fsck does not run. (iii) Since the file system is marked clean, when the AC cord is in, the system boots fine. Directories are mounted, you can use it as usual. (iii') When the AC cord is out, the file system is still marked dirty, since fsck did not have a chance to look at it. Mount refuses to process those directories because Bad Things (tm) can happen. So your boot fails. Again, if (a-c) are correct, then what Neil and Alan said does NOT in anyway contradict your observation I quoted just above; in fact, your quote seems to make their diagnosis even more reasonable. According to what I vaguely remember of this thread (again correct me if I am wrong), you see the symptom that (iii) behaves differently from (iii'), and want to fix it by making its immediate causes (ii) and (ii') agree. What Neil and Alan are telling you is that (ii) vs (ii') should never be a problem (and I agree: on my Gigabyte netbook my ext2 and my ext3 partitions never showed any behaviour like yours), and in fact it is probably by design. That the reason why (iii) and (iii') differ is actually (i). If you think this analysis is incorrect, please point out exactly where my assumptions went awry. Cheers, W -- Unfamilliarity does bring terror, so I sympathize with those of you who aren't. ~DeathMech, S. Sondhi. P-town PHY 205 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1089 days, 8:35
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 06:54:45PM -0700, Penguin Lover Maxim Wexler squawked: Roy Marples, who is a(the?) openrc developer, roped me into using git to do whatever git is supposed to do and now it's much worse. /dev/sd1 and 2 fail to mount as before PLUS many init services fail to start PLUS it no longer matters if the battery is being used or the ac cord: Chaos ensues, castles crumble, empires totter ... Well, a question: after doing whatever Roy told you to do, does the computer run fsck on boot at all (both with and without AC cord please)? If it does not run fsck, then it further vindicates the points of many of the individuals in this thread. Try booting into a rescue medium and checking those filesystems. If it does run fsck... show us the actual error message perhaps? It maybe that whatever you did left your system, excuse the pun, completely fscked. W -- Intolerant people should be shot. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1089 days, 8:49
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 09:29:30PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: There is a tool I've used in the past called PasswordMaker. It uses a master password and a flexible set of parameters to generate passwords and if necessary, enter them on a site. snip Once you enter the master password and select the appropriate settings (length, character set, hashing algorithm etc etc), the password will be generated. You can also use the current website as a salt, so using the same settings will yield a different password for different sites. Isn't this just security by obscurity? You still use the same master password: so finding out the one password is enough to break into ALL your sites. The only additional protection you gain is by that the Bad Guys do not know that you are using the tool. The salt hardly matters: to make sure the plugin will behave the same if you run firefox from different computers, they are still using the same hash function and same salt for the same site. If someone is saavy enough to know the list of websites you access and the usernames you use to access them, then that someone should also be able to find out the tool you are using for the passwords. In the end, I think it offers only marginally more protection than having the same very strong password on all your sites. The only case I think encryption/hash approach is useful is when you have a low security account (say an online game, or a MUD that you connect to via telnet) whose password is transmited in plaintext. If you insist on only using one master password, and don't want to bother memorizing a different one for the low security account, I guess by passing your password through a one-way hash makes it harder for your other accounts to be compromised. But that's about it. Just my two cents W -- Where do you get Mercury? H.G. Wells Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1089 days, 8:58
Re: [gentoo-user] question about wireless setting
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 03:46:51PM +0900, Penguin Lover ?? squawked: localhost ~ # lspci 05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) snip localhost ~ # iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. sit0 no wireless extensions. snip I could see wireless driver when typed lspci. No you can't. You see the pci devices. You don't see drivers. You need a drive either emerged or compiled into your kernel before the device will function. snip So typed this emerge ipw3945 and modprobe ipw3945 Did these two commands return successfully? After running your modprobe, what does lsmod show? Also, what kernel version are you running? If it is reasonably new, (newer than 2.6.24), then don't use the standalone drivers from portage, please use the driver provided in the kernel. See http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Iwlwifi for example configurations for kernels 2.6.{25,26,30} But first you will have to remove ipw3945 and ipw3945-ucode from your system, and you will also need to instal iwl3945-ucode instead. Cheers, W -- Hospitality is making your guests feel at home even though you wish they were. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1089 days, 9:16
Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 09:48:12PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked: I would just love to help... but your Chrome Messenger seems to be b0rked. W -- Being politically correct means always having to say you're sorry. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1089 days, 9:27
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord fails to burn dvd
José Romildo Malaquias wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:44:13PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: José Romildo Malaquias j.romi...@gmail.com wrote: Then please test again with -v It works. See attached the output of the command: # script -f -c /var/tmp/CDRTOOLS/opt/schily/bin/cdrecord -v -sao -eject speed=8 fs=256m driveropts=burnfree /var/tmp/image.iso /var/tmp/cdrecord.log This is really good news and the -v output shows that the first 1-2 MB, there is no display for the drive buffer fill ratio as cdrecord does not call read buffer cap. I just released 2.01.01a69 at: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/ that includes the change. Jörg I want to thank Jörg for his persistence in helping me to solve the issue with my system. Thanks for his effort, and for the solution he has found. Romildo When it comes to CD/DVD stuff, he's the man. He sort of reminds me of a transmission commercial. If he can't fix it, then it ain't broke. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] question about wireless setting
2009/12/1 Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 03:46:51PM +0900, Penguin Lover ?? squawked: I could see wireless driver when typed lspci. No you can't. You see the pci devices. You don't see drivers. You need a drive either emerged or compiled into your kernel before the device will function. Afaik lspci -v shows the driver in use. -- Daniel Pielmeier
Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??
Willie Wong wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 09:48:12PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked: I would just love to help... but your Chrome Messenger seems to be b0rked. W I'll enter this again in a bit. I have since went back to Seamonkey 1. It appears Seamonkey 2 and KDE 4 are really good bed buddies right now. They LOOK all cute and fuzzy but are not quite ready for prime time. Why not copy from the message I sent you ask? It's blank to. Not so much as a period or any other pixels that are useful. Thanks for letting me know this was blank. Gmail doesn't send me a copy back so I had no clue. I thought I had stumped everyone with this one. O_O Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] gcc 4.2.4 fails to build
Hello, I need to build gcc 4.2 on a core 2 duo system. The only 4.2.x version is 4.2.4, which is masked by ~. When I try to build it fails: ... /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc -B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/build/./gcc/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/ -isystem /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include -O2 -O2 -O2 -march=core2 -pipe -DIN_GCC-W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition -isystem ./include -fPIC -g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED -msse -c \ /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c \ -o crtfastmath.o /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c:1: error: bad value (core2) for -march= switch /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c:1: error: bad value (core2) for -mtune= switch I do indeed have -march=core2 in /etc/make.conf. I suppose I could change -march= to something else and try again - but what should I change it to? gcc-4.2.4 would only be used for non-portage compiling so, am I right in thinking that after it is built it would be safe to revert to -march=core2? Thanks, Roger
Re: [gentoo-user] OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml
On Monday 30 November 2009 00:06:23 daid kahl wrote: I've been getting the same silly OpenOffice compile error for a couple weeks now. Nothing I can search up or think of seems to do the trick. Since it takes about 2 hours + to crash out (the *exact* same way), it's also not trivial to try lots of different ideas. I'd read something that suggested maybe I should update my kernel, so I got around to that last week, but it doesn't change the error. revdep-rebuild says the linking is fine. Somewhere in this thread was a mention of a failed patch. Where version of patch are you using? If it's 2.6, downgrade it as 2.6 is horribly broken http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/12/01/gentoo-service-announcement-keep-clear-of- gnu-patch-2-6 -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass
Willie Wong wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 09:29:30PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: There is a tool I've used in the past called PasswordMaker. It uses a master password and a flexible set of parameters to generate passwords and if necessary, enter them on a site. snip Once you enter the master password and select the appropriate settings (length, character set, hashing algorithm etc etc), the password will be generated. You can also use the current website as a salt, so using the same settings will yield a different password for different sites. Isn't this just security by obscurity? You still use the same master password: so finding out the one password is enough to break into ALL your sites. The only additional protection you gain is by that the Bad Guys do not know that you are using the tool. The salt hardly matters: to make sure the plugin will behave the same if you run firefox from different computers, they are still using the same hash function and same salt for the same site. If someone is saavy enough to know the list of websites you access and the usernames you use to access them, then that someone should also be able to find out the tool you are using for the passwords. In the end, I think it offers only marginally more protection than having the same very strong password on all your sites. The only case I think encryption/hash approach is useful is when you have a low security account (say an online game, or a MUD that you connect to via telnet) whose password is transmited in plaintext. If you insist on only using one master password, and don't want to bother memorizing a different one for the low security account, I guess by passing your password through a one-way hash makes it harder for your other accounts to be compromised. But that's about it. Just my two cents W Well this is where some things are not real clear. I'm not sure when the master password would be sent to the website. It may be only when doing the setup but you could be right. Of course, I also read a study done by a group of Universities a few years ago that said a LOT of the security stuff that is done doesn't really work. If a person uses common information for their password, then anything the websites do is pretty much meaningless anyway. I actually sent a link to my bank regarding the specific set up they are using. I think the point is, a good secure password is the best policy. For me tho, having a good tool that is local and secure to type that sucker in for me is really good. I'm not worried about someone stealing my computer and gaining access that way, I'm just worried that someone could keep banging away at my password until it guesses it. As mentioned before, my password is not anything related to information about me but just a random bunch of stuff. Given time tho, a hacker would eventually guess it. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?
Hi, Is it a common thing, or really easy to do, to redirect the content from a server to another one? Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all data travelling there?? Thanks for information. Laurent
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 4.2.4 fails to build
if you're using an intel core2 processor, the proper -march setting is -march=nocona On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:26:28 +0100, Roger Mason rma...@mun.ca wrote: Hello, I need to build gcc 4.2 on a core 2 duo system. The only 4.2.x version is 4.2.4, which is masked by ~. When I try to build it fails: ... /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc -B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/build/./gcc/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/ -isystem /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include -O2 -O2 -O2 -march=core2 -pipe -DIN_GCC-W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition -isystem ./include -fPIC -g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED -msse -c \ /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c \ -o crtfastmath.o /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c:1: error: bad value (core2) for -march= switch /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c:1: error: bad value (core2) for -mtune= switch I do indeed have -march=core2 in /etc/make.conf. I suppose I could change -march= to something else and try again - but what should I change it to? gcc-4.2.4 would only be used for non-portage compiling so, am I right in thinking that after it is built it would be safe to revert to -march=core2? Thanks, Roger
[gentoo-user] Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
Everyone should read the following and follow the advice given: http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/12/01/gentoo-service-announcement-keep-clear-of-gnu-patch-2-6
Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??
Willie Wong wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 09:48:12PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked: I would just love to help... but your Chrome Messenger seems to be b0rked. W OK. I'm not sure how I did this before but here we go with version 2.0. I sync'ed last night, ran emerge -uvDNa world and got this: r...@smoker / # emerge -uvDNa world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy ~net-libs/ortp-0.7.1. (dependency required by kde-base/kopete-3.5.10-r4 [ebuild]) (dependency required by kde-base/kdenetwork-meta-3.5.10 [installed]) (dependency required by kde-base/kde-meta-3.5.10 [installed]) (dependency required by @world [argument]) r...@smoker / # As I understand this, kde-meta:3.5 is in world, which it is, kde-meta pulls in kdenetwork-meta which pulls in kopete. It seems that kopete wants to install ortp. I don't need it but this is where we are since I am using kde-meta. This is using the kde-sunset layman thingy. I'm not big on layman stuff but it keeps me a working KDE since KDE 4 is not ready yet. Anyway, it claims it needs ortp-0.7.1 which according to google exists somewhere but it's not in portage. I get that from here: r...@smoker / # equery list -p net-libs/ortp [ Searching for package 'ortp' in 'net-libs' among: ] * installed packages * Portage tree (/usr/portage) [-P-] [ ] net-libs/ortp-0.13.1-r1 (0) [-P-] [M~] net-libs/ortp-0.15.0 (0) [-P-] [ ] net-libs/ortp-0.15.0_p1 (0) [-P-] [M~] net-libs/ortp-0.16.0 (0) r...@smoker / # Two options. 1: Convince portage not to install ortp somehow since I don't need it anyway. 2: Figure out where it is so portage can find the package it needs which appears to not be in the tree and may be a seriously old version to boot. I prefer #1 but #2 would be OK. I'm scared of option #3. I don't want to add any more overlay stuff. It makes portage really slow here It takes several minutes sometimes for it to calculate what is needed for updates and such even where there is very little to update. Let's drift away from that if we can. ;-) Since I am back to my trusty old Seamonkey 1, let's see if this works better. Ideas anyone? Dale :-) :-) P. S. I like that Penguin Lover part up there. I do love my Linux. Windoze is banned here. Windoze is right above hal. lol
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 4.2.4 fails to build
Roger Mason schrieb: Hello, I need to build gcc 4.2 on a core 2 duo system. The only 4.2.x version is 4.2.4, which is masked by ~. When I try to build it fails: ... /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc -B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/build/./gcc/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/ -isystem /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include -O2 -O2 -O2 -march=core2 -pipe -DIN_GCC-W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition -isystem ./include -fPIC -g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED -msse -c \ /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c \ -o crtfastmath.o /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c:1: error: bad value (core2) for -march= switch /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1/work/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/config/i386/crtfastmath.c:1: error: bad value (core2) for -mtune= switch I do indeed have -march=core2 in /etc/make.conf. I suppose I could change -march= to something else and try again - but what should I change it to? gcc-4.2.4 would only be used for non-portage compiling so, am I right in thinking that after it is built it would be safe to revert to -march=core2? You can try march=native. Maybe it is a good choice for make.conf too?! And yes, you can switch back to core2 after emerge gcc-4.2.4. It's only used from emerge processes. Steffen
Re: [gentoo-user] question about wireless setting
Daniel Pielmeier wrote: 2009/12/1 Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 03:46:51PM +0900, Penguin Lover ?? squawked: I could see wireless driver when typed lspci. No you can't. You see the pci devices. You don't see drivers. You need a drive either emerged or compiled into your kernel before the device will function. Afaik lspci -v shows the driver in use. lspci -k is shorter which helps if in a console with big fonts. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?
On 12/1/2009 10:07 AM, laurent wrote: Hi, Is it a common thing, or really easy to do, to redirect the content from a server to another one? Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all data travelling there?? Thanks for information. Laurent And this is relevant here because?
Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:24:02 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Willie Wong wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 09:48:12PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked: I would just love to help... but your Chrome Messenger seems to be b0rked. W OK. I'm not sure how I did this before but here we go with version 2.0. I sync'ed last night, ran emerge -uvDNa world and got this: r...@smoker / # emerge -uvDNa world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy ~net-libs/ortp-0.7.1. (dependency required by kde-base/kopete-3.5.10-r4 [ebuild]) (dependency required by kde-base/kdenetwork-meta-3.5.10 [installed]) (dependency required by kde-base/kde-meta-3.5.10 [installed]) (dependency required by @world [argument]) r...@smoker / # As I understand this, kde-meta:3.5 is in world, which it is, kde-meta pulls in kdenetwork-meta which pulls in kopete. It seems that kopete wants to install ortp. I don't need it but this is where we are since I am using kde-meta. This is using the kde-sunset layman thingy. I'm not big on layman stuff but it keeps me a working KDE since KDE 4 is not ready yet. Anyway, it claims it needs ortp-0.7.1 which according to google exists somewhere but it's not in portage. I get that from here: r...@smoker / # equery list -p net-libs/ortp [ Searching for package 'ortp' in 'net-libs' among: ] * installed packages * Portage tree (/usr/portage) [-P-] [ ] net-libs/ortp-0.13.1-r1 (0) [-P-] [M~] net-libs/ortp-0.15.0 (0) [-P-] [ ] net-libs/ortp-0.15.0_p1 (0) [-P-] [M~] net-libs/ortp-0.16.0 (0) r...@smoker / # Two options. 1: Convince portage not to install ortp somehow since I don't need it anyway. 2: Figure out where it is so portage can find the package it needs which appears to not be in the tree and may be a seriously old version to boot. I prefer #1 but #2 would be OK. I'm scared of option #3. I don't want to add any more overlay stuff. It makes portage really slow here It takes several minutes sometimes for it to calculate what is needed for updates and such even where there is very little to update. Let's drift away from that if we can. ;-) Since I am back to my trusty old Seamonkey 1, let's see if this works better. Ideas anyone? Add -jingle to wherever you want to keep your USE flags for kopete. See kopete-3.5.10-r4 ebuild. HTH -- BigTone
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case
On 11/30/2009 9:13 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Dan Cowsill danthe...@gmail.com writes: As a matter of curiosity, why can't you open the case? Aside from extreme laziness, I'd prefer to spend 2 seconds getting the info than first pulling the machine out of some piled up mess of several machines, then getting my beat up old body into some contorted position where I can see inside, and finally just hoping I'll be able to see something worthwhile that isn't covered with monstor Tuniq 120 cooler or some such. So guess in short, it would be, aside from extreme laziness extreme laziness... Actually, I have found it difficult to find out the motherboard of a computer without taking the whole thing apart including the cooling fan (of course, it might just be me not knowing the correct way to check these types of things). It would be much easier to just compile and run a program, even if I had to ask here about which program to use. Marcus
[gentoo-user] spamassassin error
Hi all, I've a cron which trains my spamassassin and it has sttoped working: /usr/bin/sa-learn --spam /home/arnau/Mail/SPAM/ ERROR: the Bayes learn function returned an error, please re-run with -D for more information the problem comes because there's a missing package: perl-core/DB_File but seems that emerge doesn't want to install it, and I'm wondering what use I'm missing: [I] mail-filter/spamassassin Available versions: 3.1.8 3.1.8-r1 ~3.2.0 ~3.2.0-r1 ~3.2.1 3.2.1-r1 ~3.2.2 ~3.2.3 ~3.2.4 ~3.2.5 ~3.2.5-r1 {berkdb doc ipv6 ldap mysql postgres qmail sqlite ssl tools} Installed versions: 3.2.1-r1(06:15:05 PM 11/11/2009)(ssl -berkdb -doc -ipv6 -ldap -mysql -postgres -qmail -sqlite -tools) or what I'm doing wrong :-) do I have to add DB_File to world? cause if I install the package with oneshot option, depclean wants to remove it. Anyone faced same problem? Cheers, -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity
Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?
Is it a common thing, or really easy to do, to redirect the content from a server to another one? Change dns records/ip addresses? Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all data travelling there?? tcpdump? -- Kyle
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
Roy Marples, who is a(the?) openrc developer, roped me into using git to do whatever git is supposed to do and now it's much worse. /dev/sd1 and 2 fail to mount as before PLUS many init services fail to start PLUS it no longer matters if the battery is being used or the ac cord: Chaos ensues, castles crumble, empires totter ... If you don't know what git is, then probably it's a good idea to stay far, far away from it. It's just a repository for a number of project source code. But Gentoo is already building things from source and helping you to configure that source code correctly based on your make.conf settings and so on. Unless you are a developer or trying to get around bugs in portage where the ebuild isn't working, you should need to use git as a Gentoo user. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with git, but I don't think it's very good advice in this situation. I can't see at all how it's related to the problem except that someone who's not involved with Gentoo wants to be sure it's not a Gentoo issue. But there's no reason to think it's a Gentoo-specific problem. And, for the record, while people might be arguing with you, it's not malicious. We are only trying to help. ~daid
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
Unless you are a developer or trying to get around bugs in portage where the ebuild isn't working, you should need to use git as a Gentoo user. *Shouldn't* need to use git.
Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?
laurent a écrit : Hi, Is it a common thing, or really easy to do, to redirect the content from a server to another one? Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all data travelling there?? Thanks for information. Laurent hm now I see in my webmin HTTP Tunnel. It would make ue of my server as a kind of proxy to reach an uri ? Any link information about that matter would please me. :) Thnaks Laurent
Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?
On 1 Dec, laurent wrote: Hi, Is it a common thing, or really easy to do, to redirect the content from a server to another one? Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all data travelling there?? You might consider ssh tunneling google for these 2 words, e.g. you get http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/ssh-tunnel.html https://calomel.org/firefox_ssh_proxy.html http://members.shaw.ca/nicholas.fong/vnc/ and many more. Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml
Somewhere in this thread was a mention of a failed patch. Where version of patch are you using? If it's 2.6, downgrade it as 2.6 is horribly broken http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/12/01/gentoo-service-announcement-keep-clear-of- gnu-patch-2-6 There was some patching things that caught my eye related to redland. However, I found out that it was applied in both OO.o-3.0.0 and OO.o-3.1.1 and so I assumed it was not to blame. I can't remember if I actually posted about it in my brainstorming. In any case, I have not modified patch since dealing with the OO.o problems, and: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] sys-devel/patch-2.5.9 USE=-static 0 kB Thanks for the notice, though. ~daid
Re: [gentoo-user] spamassassin error
So the package needs another package and it's not in DEPENDS. Of course --depclean will remove it if you emerge it with -1, what else would you expect to happen? So add it to world of course On Dec 1, 2009 6:33 PM, Arnau Bria ar...@emergetux.net wrote: Hi all, I've a cron which trains my spamassassin and it has sttoped working: /usr/bin/sa-learn --spam /home/arnau/Mail/SPAM/ ERROR: the Bayes learn function returned an error, please re-run with -D for more information the problem comes because there's a missing package: perl-core/DB_File but seems that emerge doesn't want to install it, and I'm wondering what use I'm missing: [I] mail-filter/spamassassin Available versions: 3.1.8 3.1.8-r1 ~3.2.0 ~3.2.0-r1 ~3.2.1 3.2.1-r1 ~3.2.2 ~3.2.3 ~3.2.4 ~3.2.5 ~3.2.5-r1 {berkdb doc ipv6 ldap mysql postgres qmail sqlite ssl tools} Installed versions: 3.2.1-r1(06:15:05 PM 11/11/2009)(ssl -berkdb -doc -ipv6 -ldap -mysql -postgres -qmail -sqlite -tools) or what I'm doing wrong :-) do I have to add DB_File to world? cause if I install the package with oneshot option, depclean wants to remove it. Anyone faced same problem? Cheers, -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity
Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 08:24:02AM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked: emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy ~net-libs/ortp-0.7.1. (dependency required by kde-base/kopete-3.5.10-r4 [ebuild]) (dependency required by kde-base/kdenetwork-meta-3.5.10 [installed]) (dependency required by kde-base/kde-meta-3.5.10 [installed]) (dependency required by @world [argument]) As I understand this, kde-meta:3.5 is in world, which it is, kde-meta pulls in kdenetwork-meta which pulls in kopete. It seems that kopete wants to install ortp. Isn't KDE 3 about to be axed? Maybe this is just extra incentive for you to transition to KDE 4. :) I don't need it but this is where we are since I am using kde-meta. This is using the kde-sunset layman thingy. I'm not big on layman stuff but it keeps me a working KDE since KDE 4 is not ready yet. Anyway, it claims it needs ortp-0.7.1 which according to google exists somewhere but it's not in portage. I get that from here: r...@smoker / # equery list -p net-libs/ortp [ Searching for package 'ortp' in 'net-libs' among: ] * installed packages * Portage tree (/usr/portage) [-P-] [ ] net-libs/ortp-0.13.1-r1 (0) [-P-] [M~] net-libs/ortp-0.15.0 (0) [-P-] [ ] net-libs/ortp-0.15.0_p1 (0) [-P-] [M~] net-libs/ortp-0.16.0 (0) r...@smoker / # Maybe, I am not saying that it'll work but it is worth a try, you can send an e-mail to the kde team and ask nicely to have the needed version of ortp included in the kde-sunset overlay? If it is a package that is necessary for KDE 3 to work, and if they are already going through the trouble of providing a sunset overlay, maybe it is not too much to ask they also provide the e-builds for the supporting libraries. Cheers, W -- You feel stuck with your debt if you can't budge it. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1089 days, 16:35
Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??
Thanks for letting me know this was blank. Gmail doesn't send me a copy back so I had no clue. I thought I had stumped everyone with this one. O_O I thought maybe you were testing some new super-concise method of asking for help by including all relevant info in the subject line. Hey...less to read! ~daid
Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 04:07:44PM +0100, Penguin Lover laurent squawked: Is it a common thing, or really easy to do, to redirect the content from a server to another one? Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all data travelling there?? You need to be a bit more precise about what you mean... If you are talking about client A sitting behind router B which interfaces with Big Scary Internet C, then it is trivial for the router B to have a transparent proxy or some other form of package re-write that redirects your traffic. If you are talking about client A and server B and server C then it is also trivial for server B to redirect all its traffic to server C. If you are talking about client A and server B and Bad server C and attacker D, I don't see how in general the attacker D can redirect traffic from B to C, unless D somehow sits on the only node that connects A to B (in which case you are essentially back to scenario 1). (Yes yes, there are DNS injections and what nots, but in essence they are just variations of scenario 1.) There are also other possible scenarios. So please describe in a bit more detail what you are thinking of and why you care. Cheers, W -- English lessons for programmers #28: Fewer is of type int; whereas less is of type double. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1089 days, 16:41
[gentoo-user] Firefox crashes when open an menu
Hi, i installed the newest firefox and (www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.5.4) and if i touch the menu or if i want to use the contextual menu then the browser freezes. I made already revdep-rebuild. Any idea? Regards Frank Schwidom
Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?
Marcus Wanner a écrit : On 12/1/2009 10:07 AM, laurent wrote: Hi, Is it a common thing, or really easy to do, to redirect the content from a server to another one? Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all data travelling there?? Thanks for information. Laurent And this is relevant here because? hm yes true. Because I'm sure some people know that here and it's about network, server, gentoo is a network based operating system.(-ok this is not somehow true but..) Because you guys are damn good geeks so I would find some common interest here. Ok I know this subject can relate to hacking where my point is not here at all. I just poped on configuring my server on that security issue. If not using SSL with proper certificate it was made possible to tunnel my remote communication with my server. And then I found also this HTTP Tunnel module in my webmin. So I wanted to have more information about all this, and so you're the people I relate too. cheers Laurent
Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??
Tony2 wrote: Add -jingle to wherever you want to keep your USE flags for kopete. See kopete-3.5.10-r4 ebuild. HTH Thanks. I couldn't get it to show me the USE flags, just that error. But it started a whole new error. Sorry this is sort of long. r...@smoker / # emerge -uvDNa world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict: kde-base/libknotificationitem:4.3 ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.1', 'merge') pulled in by =kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.1[-kdeprefix] required by ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.1', 'merge') =kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.1[-kdeprefix] required by ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.1', 'merge') =kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.1[-kdeprefix] required by ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.1', 'merge') (and 1 more) ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.3', 'nomerge') pulled in by =kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kde-env-4.3.3', 'nomerge') =kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.3', 'nomerge') =kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.3', 'nomerge') (and 228 more) kde-base/kdebase-data:4.3 ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.3', 'nomerge') pulled in by =kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.3', 'nomerge') =kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.3.3', 'nomerge') ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.1', 'merge') pulled in by =kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.1:4.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.1-r2', 'merge') kde-base/ktimezoned:4.3 ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.3', 'nomerge') pulled in by =kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.3.3', 'nomerge') =kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kdebase-startkde-4.3.3-r1', 'nomerge') =kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.3', 'nomerge') ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.1', 'merge') pulled in by =kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.1:4.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.1-r2', 'merge') kde-base/kdelibs:4.3 ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.1-r2', 'merge') pulled in by =kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.1[-kdeprefix] required by ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kde-env-4.3.1', 'merge') =kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.1[-kdeprefix] required by ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.1', 'merge') =kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.1[-kdeprefix] required by ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/ktimezoned-4.3.1', 'merge') (and 5 more) ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.3', 'nomerge') pulled in by =kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kde-env-4.3.3', 'nomerge') =kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.3', 'nomerge') =kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.3', 'nomerge') (and 239 more) kde-base/libkcddb:4.3 ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.3', 'nomerge') pulled in by =kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kdemultimedia-kioslaves-4.3.3', 'nomerge') =kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kscd-4.3.3', 'nomerge') =kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kdemultimedia-meta-4.3.3', 'nomerge') ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.1', 'merge') pulled in by =kde-base/libkcddb-4.3 required by ('installed', '/', 'app-cdr/k3b-1.68.0_alpha3', 'nomerge') kde-base/kde-env:4.3 ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kde-env-4.3.3', 'nomerge') pulled in by =kde-base/kde-env-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.3', 'nomerge') ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kde-env-4.3.1', 'merge') pulled in by =kde-base/kde-env-4.3.1:4.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.1-r2', 'merge') kde-base/oxygen-icons:4.3 ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/oxygen-icons-4.3.1', 'merge') pulled in by =kde-base/oxygen-icons-4.3.1:4.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.1', 'merge') ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/oxygen-icons-4.3.3', 'nomerge') pulled in by =kde-base/oxygen-icons-4.3.3[-kdeprefix] required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kdebase-data-4.3.3', 'nomerge') It may be possible to solve this problem by using package.mask to prevent one of those
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!FIXED -- almost
On 12/1/09, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:54:45 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote: you guys are killing me -- the problem goes away when the ac cord is plugged in. I open files watch videos surf the web and so on -- no problems. I'm no expert, but that would seem to suggest that the fs is OK, no? No! You're missing the point. You are telling us that the system works fine if you fsck the root partition before trying to mount it rw, but fails to mount if it is not fscked. That means there is something wrong. To hell with that. Read the damn title of THIS THREAD!! Hint: I am typing this on an Asus Eee PC that was just booted up on battery power. so what? it isn't mine. You trying to say your hardware and data are electron for electron and bit for bit a clone of mine? marples git openrc repo wiped my fsck and I forgot to add the line 'sleep 5' in the fsck start() func. Voila! Volumes mount -- no problem. Everything boots fine with battery power or AC. Problem sorted. Only thing, git sync failed to update /etc/init.d/net.lo. In /var/git/openrc net.lo.in for some reason was not transformed into net.lo and copied to /etc/init.d/. So of course net.lo and net.eth0(the symlink) are not available when boot completes. Now if you will just withdraw your fangs and help me with this latest glitch I'll be muy contento. mw
Re: [gentoo-user] spamassassin error
On 1 Dec 2009, at 16:30, Arnau Bria wrote: ... the problem comes because there's a missing package: perl-core/DB_File ... do I have to add DB_File to world? cause if I install the package with oneshot option, depclean wants to remove it. `emerge -1 perl-core/DB_File` and file a bug. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?
Willie Wong a écrit : On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 04:07:44PM +0100, Penguin Lover laurent squawked: Is it a common thing, or really easy to do, to redirect the content from a server to another one? Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all data travelling there?? You need to be a bit more precise about what you mean... If you are talking about client A sitting behind router B which interfaces with Big Scary Internet C, then it is trivial for the router B to have a transparent proxy or some other form of package re-write that redirects your traffic. If you are talking about client A and server B and server C then it is also trivial for server B to redirect all its traffic to server C. If you are talking about client A and server B and Bad server C and attacker D, I don't see how in general the attacker D can redirect traffic from B to C, unless D somehow sits on the only node that connects A to B (in which case you are essentially back to scenario 1). (Yes yes, there are DNS injections and what nots, but in essence they are just variations of scenario 1.) There are also other possible scenarios. So please describe in a bit more detail what you are thinking of and why you care. Cheers, W I was talking about the A,B,C,D case. You say this is not common or easy to achieve. I was interested on how work tunneling and what are the possibilies of its use. I will read that first: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_tunnel :) thanks Laurent
[gentoo-user] git openrc skips init service
Hi group, I used the repo offered by Tony Marples to update openrc(0.5.2-r2 - 0.5.2.4df8778) using git. It did a fine job except it failed to update /etc/init.d/net.lo. The original instance remains. Under /var/git/openrc all the init services were updated from service.in to service and installed in /etc/init.d -- except for net.lo. Now net.lo and the symlink net.eth0 can't be found, fail to start etc. I used /var/git/openrc/git pull --rebase to do the deed. Is there a way to focus the command on just the one service? Maxim
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
And, for the record, while people might be arguing with you, it's not malicious. We are only trying to help. Fine, then read what I say and, until you know better, believe it.
[gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case
Marcus Wanner marc...@cox.net writes: On 11/30/2009 9:13 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Dan Cowsill danthe...@gmail.com writes: As a matter of curiosity, why can't you open the case? Aside from extreme laziness, I'd prefer to spend 2 seconds getting the info than first pulling the machine out of some piled up mess of several machines, then getting my beat up old body into some contorted position where I can see inside, and finally just hoping I'll be able to see something worthwhile that isn't covered with monstor Tuniq 120 cooler or some such. So guess in short, it would be, aside from extreme laziness extreme laziness... Actually, I have found it difficult to find out the motherboard of a computer without taking the whole thing apart including the cooling fan (of course, it might just be me not knowing the correct way to check these types of things). It would be much easier to just compile and run a program, even if I had to ask here about which program to use. So I guess you suffer from the ExL syndrome too then ... hehe.
Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?
Helmut Jarausch a écrit : On 1 Dec, laurent wrote: Hi, Is it a common thing, or really easy to do, to redirect the content from a server to another one? Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all data travelling there?? You might consider ssh tunneling google for these 2 words, e.g. you get http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/ssh-tunnel.html https://calomel.org/firefox_ssh_proxy.html http://members.shaw.ca/nicholas.fong/vnc/ and many more. Helmut. So it means I could always connect to internet through my remote server. Anywhere I am on this planet I connect to my server and it/he get the content for me. Kinda sweet. Does it mean it could balance/regulate and augmente my bandwith power for my workstation? Laurent
Re: [gentoo-user] spamassassin error
Arnau Bria wrote: Hi all, I've a cron which trains my spamassassin and it has sttoped working: /usr/bin/sa-learn --spam /home/arnau/Mail/SPAM/ ERROR: the Bayes learn function returned an error, please re-run with -D for more information the problem comes because there's a missing package: perl-core/DB_File but seems that emerge doesn't want to install it, and I'm wondering what use I'm missing: [I] mail-filter/spamassassin Available versions: 3.1.8 3.1.8-r1 ~3.2.0 ~3.2.0-r1 ~3.2.1 3.2.1-r1 ~3.2.2 ~3.2.3 ~3.2.4 ~3.2.5 ~3.2.5-r1 {berkdb doc ipv6 ldap mysql postgres qmail sqlite ssl tools} Installed versions: 3.2.1-r1(06:15:05 PM 11/11/2009)(ssl -berkdb -doc -ipv6 -ldap -mysql -postgres -qmail -sqlite -tools) or what I'm doing wrong :-) do I have to add DB_File to world? cause if I install the package with oneshot option, depclean wants to remove it. Anyone faced same problem? Cheers, Looking at the ebuild looks like berkdb pulls it in; spamassassin/spamassassin-3.2.1-r1.ebuild berkdb? ( virtual/perl-DB_File virtual/perl-DB_File/perl-DB_File-1.813.ebuild DESCRIPTION=Virtual for DB_File RDEPEND=~perl-core/DB_File-${PV}
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:57:58 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote: Fine, then read what I say and, until you know better, believe it. OK, you're right, everyone else is wrong and there's no point in any of us trying to help you. -- Neil Bothwick There is absolutely no substitute for a genuine lack of preparation. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] tunneling or redirect attack?
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:53 PM, laurent laur...@logiquefloue.org wrote: Helmut Jarausch a écrit : On 1 Dec, laurent wrote: Hi, Is it a common thing, or really easy to do, to redirect the content from a server to another one? Like launching an lil app telling the port to listen and then get all data travelling there?? You might consider ssh tunneling google for these 2 words, e.g. you get http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/ssh-tunnel.html https://calomel.org/firefox_ssh_proxy.html http://members.shaw.ca/nicholas.fong/vnc/ and many more. Helmut. So it means I could always connect to internet through my remote server. Anywhere I am on this planet I connect to my server and it/he get the content for me. Kinda sweet. Does it mean it could balance/regulate and augmente my bandwith power for my workstation? Laurent Well, if you mean always connect to internet through your remote server in terms of bypassing a firewall or silent proxy, possibly but not guaranteed (and likely against whatever agreement you have that put you in a position to be behind that firewall or proxy anyhow). To use it for that purpose, you would have to be able to, at the least, get to your remote server... which is just somewhere else on the internet itself. As for augmenting bandwidth for your local system, using the remote one... not really, no. Whatever link you use to get to the remote server is likely to be the same you're going to use to get to anywhere else on the internet, and it's that last link that tends to be the most limiting factor on speed. I have, however, used a slow link to connect to a system I had on a faster link somewhere, downloaded the files I wanted on that system, then pulled them off onto a usb drive when I was physically with that system the next time... but trying to pull from that system to where I was controlling it from would have been the same as, if not slower than, pulling those files directly from the original source. So an all around yes, but no, answer ;) -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 22:19:24 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:57:58 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote: Fine, then read what I say and, until you know better, believe it. OK, you're right, everyone else is wrong and there's no point in any of us trying to help you. Wise Chinese man say: young tempestuous fellow need to bang head on rock many more time before lesson be learned. Allow young man to bang head, obviously he like. Maybe he get head rush? One day he'll realise that he has installed a combination of software packages that just does not do what suits him best. Then he will change it. Until then, well, many happy non-booting returns! -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??
Willie Wong wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 08:24:02AM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked: emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy ~net-libs/ortp-0.7.1. (dependency required by kde-base/kopete-3.5.10-r4 [ebuild]) (dependency required by kde-base/kdenetwork-meta-3.5.10 [installed]) (dependency required by kde-base/kde-meta-3.5.10 [installed]) (dependency required by @world [argument]) As I understand this, kde-meta:3.5 is in world, which it is, kde-meta pulls in kdenetwork-meta which pulls in kopete. It seems that kopete wants to install ortp. Isn't KDE 3 about to be axed? Maybe this is just extra incentive for you to transition to KDE 4. :) I have KDE 4, it doesn't work for some of the things I do therefore it is not a option at the moment. It's not incentive that is lacking, it is being able to do the things that I need KDE 4 to do that is lacking. It's getting there but it's not there yet. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??
daid kahl wrote: Thanks for letting me know this was blank. Gmail doesn't send me a copy back so I had no clue. I thought I had stumped everyone with this one. O_O I thought maybe you were testing some new super-concise method of asking for help by including all relevant info in the subject line. Hey...less to read! ~daid I thought I had a problem that had everyone stumped until I was told it was blank. For the record, if you plan to use Seamonkey for your email, it ain't ready just yet. Need to wait a little longer. Browser is great tho. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 16:57, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: And, for the record, while people might be arguing with you, it's not malicious. We are only trying to help. Fine, then read what I say and, until you know better, believe it. Your problem has nothing to do with openrc, kernels, etc. Your filesystem is not cleanly umounting, and thus is marked dirty, mount will not work because its considered danger to mount an unclean fs. FSCK will not run cause it is extremely dangerous to run while on battery, so this is all EXPECTED BEHAVIOR from the software. Running fsck every boot is a workaround, not an answer to your problem. We are trying to give you a solution, not a workaround. What is your netbook model? This can narrow things down. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
meh, you got nothing On 12/1/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 01 December 2009 22:19:24 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:57:58 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote: Fine, then read what I say and, until you know better, believe it. OK, you're right, everyone else is wrong and there's no point in any of us trying to help you. Wise Chinese man say: young tempestuous fellow need to bang head on rock many more time before lesson be learned. Allow young man to bang head, obviously he like. Maybe he get head rush? One day he'll realise that he has installed a combination of software packages that just does not do what suits him best. Then he will change it. Until then, well, many happy non-booting returns! -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] how to know which driver a device is using?
Hi, when i start my system from gentoo live dvd, all my hardware works fine. but if i want to have a small system, so i removed many drivers when i am compiling my own system. the result is some times, i do not know which driver should i choose for my hardware, and my hardware cannot use when i boot from my new system. i wonder if there is a way to see which driver is loaded for my hardware. this should help me choose the drivers when compiling my system. -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/ http://meme.yahoo.com/davidshen84/
Re: [gentoo-user] how to know which driver a device is using?
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Xi Shen davidshe...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, when i start my system from gentoo live dvd, all my hardware works fine. but if i want to have a small system, so i removed many drivers when i am compiling my own system. the result is some times, i do not know which driver should i choose for my hardware, and my hardware cannot use when i boot from my new system. i wonder if there is a way to see which driver is loaded for my hardware. this should help me choose the drivers when compiling my system. lspci -k HTH -James -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/ http://meme.yahoo.com/davidshen84/
Re: [gentoo-user] how to know which driver a device is using?
you can try sys-apps/lshw On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Xi Shen davidshe...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, when i start my system from gentoo live dvd, all my hardware works fine. but if i want to have a small system, so i removed many drivers when i am compiling my own system. the result is some times, i do not know which driver should i choose for my hardware, and my hardware cannot use when i boot from my new system. i wonder if there is a way to see which driver is loaded for my hardware. this should help me choose the drivers when compiling my system. -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/ http://meme.yahoo.com/davidshen84/ -- Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1] Sent from Campinas, SP, Brazil
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:14:09 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote: meh, you got nothing Well, we haven't got broken systems that won't start up without a filesystem repair at every boot. If that's nothing, nothing will do me. If you really want help, I'd suggest you stop the tantrums, read the advice you were given and hope there is still someone prepared to help despite your attitude. -- Neil Bothwick Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:10:41 -0600 Harry Putnam wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:37:49 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: How can I determine the motherboard make and model? I mean without opening the case. sys-apps/lshw Good call Neil, I found that tool shortly after posting. It gives as good as dmidecode, at least in my case. hwinfo and lspci provide similar info to lshw. They can be found in sys-apps/hwinfo and sys-apps/pciutil. For grins, whenever I restart my computer I run hwinfo, lshw, lspci, and a variety of other utilities and save the results. That way, when next something goes wrong, I'll have a record of when things went right and will (hopefully) be able to recover.
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: We just want to help you -- that's what the police say before they tase your ass On 12/1/09, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: meh, you got nothing On 12/1/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 01 December 2009 22:19:24 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:57:58 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote: Fine, then read what I say and, until you know better, believe it. OK, you're right, everyone else is wrong and there's no point in any of us trying to help you. Wise Chinese man say: young tempestuous fellow need to bang head on rock many more time before lesson be learned. Allow young man to bang head, obviously he like. Maybe he get head rush? One day he'll realise that he has installed a combination of software packages that just does not do what suits him best. Then he will change it. Until then, well, many happy non-booting returns! -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com I *almost* feel sorry for you, after several people here have tried to help, even WITHOUT you giving an actual direct error message that you're receiving beyond the *expected* behavior of the fsck being skipped on boot, and even despite your being belligerent toward several of the most helpful people I've seen on the list overall. What I do fail to understand, though, is why a person would post, asking for help, disregard every bit of help given, and *both* act as though they're being forced to listen to help they didn't ask for *and* as though they're not getting any help at all. If someone gives you an answer that is wrong for the situation as you see it, it typically means one of two things... 1) you didn't give all the details needed for them to understand what you're seeing and to know WHY the answer they're giving isn't correct, which 2) you're overlooking or ignoring something that they're trying to point out in their answer and, despite what you may want to hear, they are in fact correct. Now, a-typically, it's possible you know what's wrong, what's causing it, and the solution, so you can instantly know that answers you're receiving are wrong... but in my experience, in those cases, people don't waste other people's time asking for help. -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] how to know which driver a device is using?
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Xi Shen davidshe...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, when i start my system from gentoo live dvd, all my hardware works fine. but if i want to have a small system, so i removed many drivers when i am compiling my own system. the result is some times, i do not know which driver should i choose for my hardware, and my hardware cannot use when i boot from my new system. i wonder if there is a way to see which driver is loaded for my hardware. this should help me choose the drivers when compiling my system. -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/ http://meme.yahoo.com/davidshen84/ Boot with the Gentoo install CD and the use lsmod and modinfo to build a list of what's actually loaded. That will give you a good starting point for what to choose in your kernel. If you end up building a few extras or miss one at least you'll be pretty close in my experience. Good luck, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case
On Wednesday 02 December 2009 01:25:16 David Relson wrote: For grins, whenever I restart my computer I run hwinfo, lshw, lspci, and a variety of other utilities and save the results. Good God. I hope you don't do that more than once a decade. Just how long can a life be? -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 02 December 2009 01:25:16 David Relson wrote: For grins, whenever I restart my computer I run hwinfo, lshw, lspci, and a variety of other utilities and save the results. Good God. I hope you don't do that more than once a decade. Just how long can a life be? Unless he changes hardware while it is shutdown. I don't think the drivers have ever changed on my system since I built it. I have had to add a couple, ethernet card and a SATA card, but other than that, it should be the same. I have to say tho, booting a CD and doing lspci -k or -v is the best way to get the right drivers. That is providing the hardware works when that is done. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
so tell me how come none of you quarter-brights have responded to the email where I say this problem has been fixed? you want to help? answer me this: why did # /var/git/openrc/git pull --rebase update all init.d services except net.lo? That's today's scintillating question. On 12/1/09, Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: We just want to help you -- that's what the police say before they tase your ass On 12/1/09, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: meh, you got nothing On 12/1/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 01 December 2009 22:19:24 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:57:58 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote: Fine, then read what I say and, until you know better, believe it. OK, you're right, everyone else is wrong and there's no point in any of us trying to help you. Wise Chinese man say: young tempestuous fellow need to bang head on rock many more time before lesson be learned. Allow young man to bang head, obviously he like. Maybe he get head rush? One day he'll realise that he has installed a combination of software packages that just does not do what suits him best. Then he will change it. Until then, well, many happy non-booting returns! -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com I *almost* feel sorry for you, after several people here have tried to help, even WITHOUT you giving an actual direct error message that you're receiving beyond the *expected* behavior of the fsck being skipped on boot, and even despite your being belligerent toward several of the most helpful people I've seen on the list overall. What I do fail to understand, though, is why a person would post, asking for help, disregard every bit of help given, and *both* act as though they're being forced to listen to help they didn't ask for *and* as though they're not getting any help at all. If someone gives you an answer that is wrong for the situation as you see it, it typically means one of two things... 1) you didn't give all the details needed for them to understand what you're seeing and to know WHY the answer they're giving isn't correct, which 2) you're overlooking or ignoring something that they're trying to point out in their answer and, despite what you may want to hear, they are in fact correct. Now, a-typically, it's possible you know what's wrong, what's causing it, and the solution, so you can instantly know that answers you're receiving are wrong... but in my experience, in those cases, people don't waste other people's time asking for help. -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
should be /var/git/openrc# git pull --rebase On 12/1/09, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: so tell me how come none of you quarter-brights have responded to the email where I say this problem has been fixed? you want to help? answer me this: why did # /var/git/openrc/git pull --rebase update all init.d services except net.lo? That's today's scintillating question. On 12/1/09, Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: We just want to help you -- that's what the police say before they tase your ass On 12/1/09, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: meh, you got nothing On 12/1/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 01 December 2009 22:19:24 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:57:58 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote: Fine, then read what I say and, until you know better, believe it. OK, you're right, everyone else is wrong and there's no point in any of us trying to help you. Wise Chinese man say: young tempestuous fellow need to bang head on rock many more time before lesson be learned. Allow young man to bang head, obviously he like. Maybe he get head rush? One day he'll realise that he has installed a combination of software packages that just does not do what suits him best. Then he will change it. Until then, well, many happy non-booting returns! -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com I *almost* feel sorry for you, after several people here have tried to help, even WITHOUT you giving an actual direct error message that you're receiving beyond the *expected* behavior of the fsck being skipped on boot, and even despite your being belligerent toward several of the most helpful people I've seen on the list overall. What I do fail to understand, though, is why a person would post, asking for help, disregard every bit of help given, and *both* act as though they're being forced to listen to help they didn't ask for *and* as though they're not getting any help at all. If someone gives you an answer that is wrong for the situation as you see it, it typically means one of two things... 1) you didn't give all the details needed for them to understand what you're seeing and to know WHY the answer they're giving isn't correct, which 2) you're overlooking or ignoring something that they're trying to point out in their answer and, despite what you may want to hear, they are in fact correct. Now, a-typically, it's possible you know what's wrong, what's causing it, and the solution, so you can instantly know that answers you're receiving are wrong... but in my experience, in those cases, people don't waste other people's time asking for help. -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy