Am Sonntag 14 Februar 2010 02:51:57 schrieb Damian:
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Damian damian.o...@gmail.com wrote:
HTH...
Dirk
Thanks a lot for your responses. That looks just like what I needed.
Ok, I just cannot make this work.
I've created a file /etc/conf.d/mpd
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 08:01:50 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
The OP then doesn't have to deal with 600+ conf-update complaints
Run conf-update and press a then d :)
But I'm a paranoid snarky old git and that doesn't work for me!
But d rejects all the changes, leaving your own configs.
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 08:01:50 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
The OP then doesn't have to deal with 600+ conf-update complaints
Run conf-update and press a then d :)
But I'm a paranoid snarky old git and that doesn't work for me!
But
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Saturday 13 February 2010 14:07:05 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
I agree with the concept that people who don't want KDE dependancies,
e.g. dbus, shouldn't use KDE apps. Therefore, I avoid amarok,
kaffeine, kplayer, etc. What got
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:03:40 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On a more serious note, conf-update automatically merges trivial
changes, so any configs you ran at the default, which is probably the
majority, won't be flaged at all.
so does cfg-update
Every now and then, someone
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:08:05 +0700, Robin Atwood wrote:
Do you use Oxygen or anything else as window decorator? I use crystal,
where tabbing does not work. However, after I changed to Oxygen, it
did. So the Decorator has to support it.
Thanks, that's the problem, I use Crystal.
Hi Dirk,
In your first post you stated that you want to have both started, right? But
after is about order, not dependency. I'd say you need to put
rc_need=mpd
into /etc/conf.d/mpdscrible and put mpdscrible into default runlevel, not mpd.
I understand, but that isn't what I want, because
On Sunday 14 February 2010 13:02:48 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
I highly recommend drivers to gain the skill of driving a vehicle
crash-style without a clutch. Comes in useful sometimes.
:-)
the point was not stick but unsyncronized ;)
I know. I just felt like tossing sounding in
Damian:
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 12:56:14PM +0100, Damian wrote:
I understand, but that isn't what I want, because when I boot up, I
don't always start up mpd.
Maybe a combination of both
rc_after=mpdscrible
rc_need=mpdscrible
in /etc/conf.d/mpd could also work.
That's the problem.
Greetings;
I'm needing to add an ebuild, but there is something I'm not doing
right it seems.
I have xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r2.ebuild. The file that is.
I place it in /usr/portage/x11-base/xorg-server/
I run ebuild xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r2.ebuild digest I can see that
the file Manifest is
Neil Bothwick wrote:
For example, Network Manager uses D-Bus to tell programs when
your Internet connection is available and not, so your mail
client goes into offline mode rather than pointlessly
trying to access your mailbox.
Why should an MUA care about some local interface at all ?
It
Alan McKinnon wrote:
Example: You have any old arbitrary email client. A mail contains a URL.
Click
it. The URL should open in your preferred browser, whatever that should be.
Please note that any email client should support launching any browser,
whether the dev built in support for it
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Skippy wrote:
Greetings;
I'm needing to add an ebuild, but there is something I'm not doing
right it seems.
I have xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r2.ebuild. The file that is.
I place it in /usr/portage/x11-base/xorg-server/
you should place it in
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells
a broweser or mail app that they are offline?
use the filesystem ?
guess what: I've got a filesystem (a tiny 9p server) which even
lets me control the network interfaces.
cu
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Neil Bothwick wrote:
You're on a train, it goes into a 3G dead zone, your mailer hangs until
it times out, meaning you can't even read cached mails until that happens.
Probably fix that broken MUA (or let it run via an caching proxy) ?
cu
--
I am getting rather confused by this back and forth (I thought I
understood what you wanted and Dirk and other's answers should be
right, but now I am not so sure). Can you answer the following for me
just to make sure we are on the same page?
Sure, I'm sorry for the confusion.
(a) What is
Alan McKinnon wrote:
You are assuming that smaller WMs don't need IPC. I believe that assumption
to
be false. If my belief is true, then your argument falls flat.
Guess what, there are even very small WMs that have an IPC, and a
very clear/portable/network-agnostic one: wmii uses 9P.
By
Alan McKinnon wrote:
However. ELF is analogous (with the exception that you don't
have one or two binary apps), and nothing is stopping you from
building everything statically, or still using .a
Actually, if libraries hadn't been grown that extremly fat,
but instead using small tailored ones
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
However. ELF is analogous (with the exception that you don't
have one or two binary apps), and nothing is stopping you from
building everything statically, or still using .a
Actually, if libraries hadn't been grown
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells
a broweser or mail app that they are offline?
use the filesystem ?
guess what: I've got a filesystem (a tiny 9p server) which even
lets me control
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
KDE apps use PHONON, so they don't have to deal with the underlying sound
system.
KDE apps use SOLID, so they don't need to care about hardware, hot plugin,
etc.
KDE apps use dbus so they can share code and easily communicate.
One thing I never understood
BRM wrote:
It does not exist so that Kmail can index all the files on the
system but for the opposite - so that Kmail can participate in
the search by allowing the system to be able to search _its_ data.
Just to let me get the point right: kmail provides some kind of
search/date integration
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells
a broweser or mail app that they are offline?
use the filesystem ?
guess what: I've got a filesystem (a tiny 9p server)
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
startup time is not dependet on the size, harddisks are way
Assuming you're using an harddisk (or another fast-enough
medium) at all.
too fast - but symbol resolution. More libs, more work to
resolve them, longer startup times.
Exactly. And that wouldn't be
On 14 Feb 2010, at 11:56, Damian wrote:
Hi Dirk,
In your first post you stated that you want to have both started,
right? But
after is about order, not dependency. I'd say you need to put
rc_need=mpd
into /etc/conf.d/mpdscrible and put mpdscrible into default
runlevel, not mpd.
I
On 14 Feb 2010, at 14:28, Skippy wrote:
I'm needing to add an ebuild, but there is something I'm not doing
right it seems.
I have xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r2.ebuild. The file that is.
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Overlay#Creating_a_local_overlay
Stroller.
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 03:54:10PM +0100, Damian wrote:
(d) What versions of openrc and baselayout are you using?
openrc is not installed, and the baselayout version is 1.12.13.
I am thinking that Dirk's advice maybe OpenRC/baselayout2 specific.
Which is perhaps why those configuration
Am Sonntag 14 Februar 2010 12:56:14 schrieb Damian:
into /etc/conf.d/mpdscrible and put mpdscrible into default runlevel, not
mpd.
I understand, but that isn't what I want, because when I boot up, I
don't always start up mpd.
Well, then don't put it in any runlevel, but if you start the
Am Sonntag 14 Februar 2010 16:48:00 schrieb Stroller:
Is it possible that you Dirk are using different versions of
baselayout?
Yes, I am running OpenRC/BL2. I didn't even think for a second that somebody
could still be using BL1, sorry for that ;)
Bye...
Dirk
Thanks y'all
In addition to not using the local location, I didn't know about the
line in make.conf.
Done and done. Plus I couldn't find the right info as I was searching
for adding an ebuild or such things instead of adding local overlay
which would have probably been more helpful. :)
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells
a broweser or mail app that they are offline?
use the filesystem ?
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
BRM wrote:
It does not exist so that Kmail can index all the files on the
system but for the opposite - so that Kmail can participate in
the search by allowing the system to be able to search _its_ data.
Just to let me get the point
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
KDE apps use PHONON, so they don't have to deal with the underlying sound
system.
KDE apps use SOLID, so they don't need to care about hardware, hot
plugin, etc.
KDE apps use dbus so they can share code and
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
startup time is not dependet on the size, harddisks are way
Assuming you're using an harddisk (or another fast-enough
medium) at all.
too fast - but symbol resolution. More libs, more work to
resolve them,
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
don't waste your time - dbis is already there...
dbus lets me access my network interfaces via filesystem ?
cu
--
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Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/
cellphone: +49 174
What can be this
/ bin / sh: lzma: command not found
make [2]: *** [arch/x86/boot/compressed/vmlinux.bin.lzma] Error 1
make [1]: *** [arch/x86/boot/compressed/vmlinux] Error 2
make: *** [bzImage] Error 2
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
don't waste your time - dbis is already there...
dbus lets me access my network interfaces via filesystem ?
no, it is ported to different architectures.
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
no, but with static exes you have to recompile everything
everytime a security bug is found.
That's the job of the distro buildsystem. Ah, and that dramatically
minimizes the chance that things break apart (i still remember
the old times when libc updates tended to
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Dirk Heinrichs
dirk.heinri...@online.de wrote:
Am Sonntag 14 Februar 2010 16:48:00 schrieb Stroller:
Is it possible that you Dirk are using different versions of
baselayout?
Yes, I am running OpenRC/BL2. I didn't even think for a second that somebody
could
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Another service?
Yes, a service that will be started only on-demand.
Great - but then shut up about dbus.
Who the frak are you to tell me shut up ?!
cu
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Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service
German Lopez Cortina schrieb am 14.02.2010 19:45:
What can be this
/ bin / sh: lzma: command not found
make [2]: *** [arch/x86/boot/compressed/vmlinux.bin.lzma] Error 1
make [1]: *** [arch/x86/boot/compressed/vmlinux] Error 2
make: *** [bzImage] Error 2
You have lzma compression
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
phonon: because phonon is part of qt? And qt is more than
just a toolkit?
What is it then ? An own OS ? ;-o
cu
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Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/
cellphone: +49
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
don't waste your time - dbis is already there...
dbus lets me access my network interfaces via filesystem ?
no, it is ported to different architectures.
the only thing i have yet to
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
don't waste your time - dbis is already there...
dbus lets me access my network interfaces via filesystem ?
no, it is ported
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
no, but with static exes you have to recompile everything
everytime a security bug is found.
That's the job of the distro buildsystem. Ah, and that dramatically
minimizes the chance that things break apart (i
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
phonon: because phonon is part of qt? And qt is more than
just a toolkit?
What is it then ? An own OS ? ;-o
are you insisting going down the stupid road?
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Another service?
Yes, a service that will be started only on-demand.
so I have to wait for the service to start first? Sounds even crappier.
Great - but then shut up about dbus.
Who the frak are you to
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:27:45 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
For example, Network Manager uses D-Bus to tell programs when
your Internet connection is available and not, so your mail
client goes into offline mode rather than pointlessly
trying to access your mailbox.
Why should an MUA
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:45:49 -0500 German Lopez Cortina
glo...@estudiantes.uci.cu wrote:
What can be this
/ bin / sh: lzma: command not found
make [2]: *** [arch/x86/boot/compressed/vmlinux.bin.lzma] Error 1
make [1]: *** [arch/x86/boot/compressed/vmlinux] Error 2
make: *** [bzImage]
On Sunday 14 February 2010 16:40:01 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Just to bring this back to your original statement of Unix philosophy.
IPC on modern desktops conforms exactly to the Unix philosophy.
On dbus, everything's a file ?
You are either ignorant, or trying to be a jackass. Either way,
On Sunday 14 February 2010 20:44:32 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
no, but with static exes you have to recompile everything
everytime a security bug is found.
That's the job of the distro buildsystem. Ah, and that dramatically
minimizes the chance that things break
kos...@gentoo /usr/bin $ ls -al gcc*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14504 Jun 17 2008 gcc
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root62 Jan 24 06:25 gcc-4.3.4 -
/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.4/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 21711 Jan 24 01:46 gcc-config
kos...@gentoo /usr/bin $
Maybe I have to
kos...@gentoo /usr/bin $ ls -al gcc*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14504 Jun 17 2008 gcc
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root62 Jan 24 06:25 gcc-4.3.4 -
/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.4/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 21711 Jan 24 01:46 gcc-config
kos...@gentoo /usr/bin $
Maybe I have
Am Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:54:10 +0100
schrieb Damian damian.o...@gmail.com:
(d) What versions of openrc and baselayout are you using?
openrc is not installed, and the baselayout version is 1.12.13.
As Willie Wong mentioned, that ought to explain it. The features Dirk was
referring to are AFAIK
Hi,
Mostly in support of (I think) KDE I have poppler installed which
seems to cause eix-test-obsolete a little indigestion. It sees
virtual/poppler as installed but says they are not in the database.
Do I have a problem here (eix-test-obsolete itself or my use of it,
use flags, some sort
On Sunday 14 February 2010 22:10:05 Mark Knecht wrote:
Hi,
Mostly in support of (I think) KDE I have poppler installed which
seems to cause eix-test-obsolete a little indigestion. It sees
virtual/poppler as installed but says they are not in the database.
Do I have a problem here
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 14 February 2010 22:10:05 Mark Knecht wrote:
Hi,
Mostly in support of (I think) KDE I have poppler installed which
seems to cause eix-test-obsolete a little indigestion. It sees
virtual/poppler as
dhk wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Friday 12 February 2010 00:58:52 dhk wrote:
I put /usr/bin/java back the way it was.
ln -s /usr/bin/run-java-tool /usr/bin/java
I set the CLASSPATH, got it from java-config --runtime
export CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:/opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.18/jre/lib/resources.jar:
On 14 Feb 2010, at 20:31, Mark Knecht wrote:
...
poppler isn't in my world file:
...
Are you suggesting the I unmerge poppler and then do a
revdep-rebuild (or emerge -DuN @world) to get it reinstalled without
this problem?
Yes.
Stroller.
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Stroller
strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
On 14 Feb 2010, at 20:31, Mark Knecht wrote:
...
poppler isn't in my world file:
...
Are you suggesting the I unmerge poppler and then do a
revdep-rebuild (or emerge -DuN @world) to get it reinstalled without
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 08:20:52PM +0100, hp_sebastian wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:45:49 -0500 German Lopez Cortina
glo...@estudiantes.uci.cu wrote:
What can be this
/ bin / sh: lzma: command not found
make [2]: *** [arch/x86/boot/compressed/vmlinux.bin.lzma] Error 1
make [1]:
Hi everyone,
I have purchased an HP C4795 Photosmart All-in-One printer, scanner and
copier. I have gotten the printer to work fine after installing the
unstable version of hplip. The copy mechanism works also. However, I
am having trouble with the scanner. I again have installed unstable
Am Sonntag, 7. Februar 2010 schrieb Mark Knecht:
Hi Willie,
OK - it turns out if I start fdisk using the -u option it show me
sector numbers. Looking at the original partition put on just using
default values it had the starting sector was 63 - probably about the
worst value it could be.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 01:48:01AM +0100, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
Sorry if I reheat a topic that some already consider closed. I used the
weekend to experiment on that stuff and need to report my results. Because
they startle me a little.
I first tried different start sectors around
2010/2/14 Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 01:48:01AM +0100, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
SNIP
action SS (1st) SS (2nd) SS+2 SS+4 SS+6 SS+8
-+--+--+--+--+--+--
untar portage
Error ffmpeg installing
make: *** [libavcodec/x86/dsputil_mmx.o] Error 1
* ERROR: media-video/ffmpeg-0.5_p20373 failed:
* make failed
On Monday 15 February 2010 05:49:23 German Lopez Cortina wrote:
Error ffmpeg installing
Please report with the build error.
It's earlier than the bit you quoted, you need to examine the output to find
it.
make: *** [libavcodec/x86/dsputil_mmx.o] Error 1
* ERROR:
On Monday 15 February 2010 00:04:21 Mark Knecht wrote:
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Stroller
strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
On 14 Feb 2010, at 20:31, Mark Knecht wrote:
...
poppler isn't in my world file:
...
Are you suggesting the I unmerge poppler and then do a
On Sunday 14 February 2010 22:37:03 dhk wrote:
dhk wrote:
Ok, I think the problem is in the rt.jar file. The beginning of the
error is as follows:
# /opt/sun-j2ee-1.3.1/bin/j2ee -verbose
J2EE server listen port: 1050
Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
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