Re: [gentoo-user] e17 fails to build from svn
On Tuesday 17 May 2011 23:46:17 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 00:22 on Wednesday 18 May 2011, Mick did opine thusly: On Tuesday 17 May 2011 21:32:06 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 21:34 on Tuesday 17 May 2011, Mick did opine thusly: On 17 May 2011 08:01, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: I compared by USE to yours and they are much the same apart from ofono (not relevant) and I have ukit enabled. You are running x86 (32 bit) right? Yes, this is a x86 mostly stable box (except for e17 of course). Ha! I believe we found the little fucker causing you grief. Very last comment here: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/759 (ignore raster's anti-gentoo packager rants) Per your initial post, you have: [ebuild R ] dev-libs/eeze-1.0.0 USE=nls -doc -static-libs 0 kB [0] I'm certain you forgot to unmask eeze when it first hit the overlay Yes! That was it! I had unmasked it on the first machine, but not the second. I am confused though, shouldn't it come back and tell me that ezee was required as a dependency and it was masked? Thank you very much! :) PS. You didn't say if icons for USB sticks disappear from your desktop when you unplug them. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: open-vm-tools FATAL: Module vmblock not found
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:15, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: I've emerged open-vm-tools, but why does startup now showing FATAL: Module vmblock not found. ? That said, system boots okay. It's a virtualized (cloud) server on top of VMware vSphere Cloud. When I created the VM, I specified using PV-SCSI instead of LSI Logic. Another (unrelated) thread in this list gave me the idea of trying module-rebuild ... and it works! Yay! Thanks, list! Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~
[gentoo-user] Re: open-vm-tools FATAL: Module vmblock not found
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 14:31, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:15, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: I've emerged open-vm-tools, but why does startup now showing FATAL: Module vmblock not found. ? That said, system boots okay. It's a virtualized (cloud) server on top of VMware vSphere Cloud. When I created the VM, I specified using PV-SCSI instead of LSI Logic. Another (unrelated) thread in this list gave me the idea of trying module-rebuild ... and it works! Yay! Thanks, list! Alright, it works... so what does vmblock actually do? Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~
Re: [gentoo-user] leafnode and xinetd?
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:20:01PM +0200, James Cloos wrote: I == Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com writes: Leafnode works fine here. I Output of xinetd -d Looks fine. In addition to the other reply's suggestions, does running /usr/sbin/leafnode from a root shell work? Have you run fetchnews at least once? Thanks, James. The fetchnews part is the only bit that works. I got xinetd running (not sure why it kept crashing, but an update appears to have fixed that), but never was able to use leafnode, as it refuses to allow connections at all of any kind. Did everything by the book, including the news account and all that but just no joy. Firewall lives on a separate machine, so it wasn't that. Tried everything including removing nearly all security just to see if it could work, but nothing. I can connect to various ports for other purposes (mpd, sshd are fine) but leafnode will not accept connections no matter what I do. So unless there's a suggestion I haven't already tried (doubtful, I tend to be thorough as only the obssessive can be) I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it doesn't work on this system. Since there might be all of four gentoo users actually running leafnode, it isn't surprising if it doesn't work on every configuration. :) -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
Re: [gentoo-user] --oneshot and --update
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 21:17, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Dale writes: Way back when, --update did not record to the world file. That may have changed but I sort of doubt it. It has changed indeed. Wonko So, if I do: emerge --update --newuse --pretend --deep world And then, let's say there's package 'foo' that I never emerged manually (not visible if I didn't use '--deep' above), and I do emerge --update foo Then 'foo' will be recorded in @world? Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~
Re: [gentoo-user] --oneshot and --update
On Wed, 18 May 2011 17:06:59 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: So, if I do: emerge --update --newuse --pretend --deep world And then, let's say there's package 'foo' that I never emerged manually (not visible if I didn't use '--deep' above), and I do emerge --update foo Then 'foo' will be recorded in @world? Yes. If a world update with --deep --with-bdeps y doesn't touch a package, you should either let depclean remove it or add it to world. It means the package is not a dependency of anything in world, either know you need it because you use it, in which case it should be in world, or it is a no longer needed dependency and should be cleaned up. -- Neil Bothwick I am ready to meet my Maker. Whether my Maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter. - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] is a nice place :-D
On Tue, 17 May 2011 18:38:33 +0100, Stroller wrote: Not addressed at you, specifically, but it rather seems like sed awk are much under-appreciated these days. I'd guess that this may be due to the changing nature of *nix users, but they seem to have gone out of fashion. Aside from sed's simple replace, I have certainly never learned to do anything useful with them. They both have a steep initial learning curve, which leads to their adoption being put off. I put awk in the same category as screen, one of those programs that you hear people going on about for years, but always manage to put off trying them. Once you do try them, you use them for everything but slicing bread. -- Neil Bothwick Hors d'oeuvres: 3 sandwiches cut into 40 pieces. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] leafnode and xinetd?
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:10:02AM +0200, Indi wrote: On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:20:01PM +0200, James Cloos wrote: I == Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com writes: Leafnode works fine here. I Output of xinetd -d Looks fine. In addition to the other reply's suggestions, does running /usr/sbin/leafnode from a root shell work? Have you run fetchnews at least once? Tried everything including removing nearly all security just to see if it could work, but nothing. I can connect to various ports for other purposes (mpd, sshd are fine) but leafnode will not accept connections no matter what I do. So unless there's a suggestion I haven't already tried (doubtful, I tend to be thorough as only the obssessive can be) I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it doesn't work on this system. Since there might be all of four gentoo users actually running leafnode, it isn't surprising if it doesn't work on every configuration. Solved, and apparently it was a PEBKAC error. Deleted all related configs and recreated them from scratch and now it works. My eyesight is quite poor, odds are there was a type-oh in one of the configs fouling it up. Sorry for the noise! -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Tuesday 17 May 2011 20:48:54 Dale wrote: The emerge -e world finished. It still doesn't work like it did a few weeks ago. So, I tried the nonetwork option. That starts about every service except the GUI, my UPS thingy and a couple others. Get this, it even starts the freaking network. Why is it called nonetwork if it starts the network too. Seeing the list of services it started, it didn't miss many. Did it start as part of Hey, there is a network card, lets use it? I believe the default configuration auto-starts network devices if any are found. There is something not right here. It appears that openrc or whatever is not working the way it should. The funniest part about this, it worked fine the other day and it works just fine from a console. It just doesn't work right when passed from grub. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? Try disabling auto-starting services? :) -- Joost
[gentoo-user] Framebuffer
Genthinktank, How can you determine all the available frambuffer resolutions and colour depths on a particular host for vesafb. I normally set this through trial and error but there must be a command to determine these? JDM
Re: [gentoo-user] Framebuffer
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 03:10:02PM +0200, JDM wrote: Genthinktank, How can you determine all the available frambuffer resolutions and colour depths on a particular host for vesafb. I normally set this through trial and error but there must be a command to determine these? JDM I think fbset will do, check the man page. -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
Re: [gentoo-user] Framebuffer
That's called vbe information.If you have grub2,you can enter the command mode and type 'vbeinfo',or if you use uvesafb,you will get vbe info here at /sys/devices/platform/uvesafb.0/graphics/fb0/modes 2011/5/18 Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 03:10:02PM +0200, JDM wrote: Genthinktank, How can you determine all the available frambuffer resolutions and colour depths on a particular host for vesafb. I normally set this through trial and error but there must be a command to determine these? JDM I think fbset will do, check the man page. -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 02:48:54 Dale wrote: The emerge -e world finished. It still doesn't work like it did a few weeks ago. So, I tried the nonetwork option. That starts about every service except the GUI, my UPS thingy and a couple others. Get this, it even starts the freaking network. Why is it called nonetwork if it starts the network too. Seeing the list of services it started, it didn't miss many. Put rc_hotplug=!net.* into /etc/rc.conf. The system is getting too clever by half; nowadays it starts whatever it can, and only then does it look to see what you've set via rc-update. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Framebuffer
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:57 AM, JDM j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk wrote: Genthinktank, How can you determine all the available frambuffer resolutions and colour depths on a particular host for vesafb. I normally set this through trial and error but there must be a command to determine these? JDM HTH, Mark c2stable ~ # hwinfo --framebuffer 02: None 00.0: 11001 VESA Framebuffer [Created at bios.459] Unique ID: rdCR.u0Yr_tr7pZ7 Hardware Class: framebuffer Model: NVIDIA GF100 Board - 10250008 Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Device: GF100 Board - 10250008 SubVendor: NVIDIA SubDevice: Revision: Chip Rev Memory Size: 14 MB Memory Range: 0xd500-0xd5df (rw) Mode 0x0300: 640x400 (+640), 8 bits Mode 0x0301: 640x480 (+640), 8 bits Mode 0x0303: 800x600 (+800), 8 bits Mode 0x030e: 320x200 (+640), 16 bits Mode 0x030f: 320x200 (+1280), 24 bits Mode 0x0311: 640x480 (+1280), 16 bits Mode 0x0312: 640x480 (+2560), 24 bits Mode 0x0314: 800x600 (+1600), 16 bits Mode 0x0315: 800x600 (+3200), 24 bits Mode 0x0330: 320x200 (+320), 8 bits Mode 0x0331: 320x400 (+320), 8 bits Mode 0x0332: 320x400 (+640), 16 bits Mode 0x0333: 320x400 (+1280), 24 bits Mode 0x0334: 320x240 (+320), 8 bits Mode 0x0335: 320x240 (+640), 16 bits Mode 0x0336: 320x240 (+1280), 24 bits Mode 0x033d: 640x400 (+1280), 16 bits Mode 0x033e: 640x400 (+2560), 24 bits Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown c2stable ~ #
Re: [gentoo-user] external monitor output during boot
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 22:48 -0400, Valmor de Almeida wrote: Hello, What controls the screen output to an external monitor connected to a laptop during boot or when just using a plain console without an X server running? Before a recent update the output would just automatically go to an external monitor when one is connected. Now it does not; not sure it has anything to do with the openrc migration. I think it largely depends on the particular hardware config. For my laptop it's a BIOS option. If you are using KMS however it seems to want to drive all outputs with a monitor attached.
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 18 May 2011 02:48:54 Dale wrote: The emerge -e world finished. It still doesn't work like it did a few weeks ago. So, I tried the nonetwork option. That starts about every service except the GUI, my UPS thingy and a couple others. Get this, it even starts the freaking network. Why is it called nonetwork if it starts the network too. Seeing the list of services it started, it didn't miss many. Put rc_hotplug=!net.* into /etc/rc.conf. The system is getting too clever by half; nowadays it starts whatever it can, and only then does it look to see what you've set via rc-update. I changed that and will test later on today. I'm trying to get some work done in my garden while it is dry. Sort of funny in a way. The Mississippi river is flooding on the other side of the state and I'm dry here on this side. I actually live less than a mile from a different river. Weather is so weird sometimes. I don't want to think about the folks North and South of me. Tornadoes a couple weeks ago. I live in a valley next to a hill, I'm not complaining tho. It keeps the BAD winds away. o_O If anyone saw it on the news, I'm about 40 miles or so South of Smithville MS. It's gone. I saw what was left with my own eyes. Houses are piles of rubbish. I haven't seen Tuscaloosa yet but it is about 60 miles East of me. Sounds bad and looks bad on TV. :-( Back on topic, I'll reboot and test this in a while. I had this setting before but missed it during the upgrade. Still can't figure out why it doesn't work from grub like it used to. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 14:56:59 Dale wrote: The Mississippi river is flooding on the other side of the state and I'm dry here on this side. I actually live less than a mile from a different river. Weather is so weird sometimes. I don't want to think about the folks North and South of me. Tornadoes a couple weeks ago. I live in a valley next to a hill, I'm not complaining tho. It keeps the BAD winds away. o_O If anyone saw it on the news, I'm about 40 miles or so South of Smithville MS. It's gone. I saw what was left with my own eyes. Houses are piles of rubbish. I haven't seen Tuscaloosa yet but it is about 60 miles East of me. Sounds bad and looks bad on TV. :-( Eek! I remember the two years I spent in Minneapolis, when we remarked that over there we had real weather. Back on topic, I'll reboot and test this in a while. I had this setting before but missed it during the upgrade. Still can't figure out why it doesn't work from grub like it used to. My setup works just fine with run-levels that I set up years ago. I have one for no-x, which as well as not starting X also omits services that are only useful in X. I also use the nonetwork run-level for major emerges such as wholesale upgrades of KDE. The only thing I can think of at the moment that annoys me about open-rc is the loss of alphabetical ordering in the output from rc-update -s -v; everything else just works (well, apart from Flash in web browsers, but that hardly counts). -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: open-vm-tools FATAL: Module vmblock not found
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: Alright, it works... so what does vmblock actually do? man vmblock :) Apparently it is a driver to assist with drag 'n drop operations in VMware, or something.
[gentoo-user] Recently reduced video/render performance
Hi list! Since updating to mplayer and KDE to current stable (media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20101114 and kde-4.6), I notice two performance regressions: 1. The system can no longer handle videos with VGA resolution or higher at 25 FPS (I'm talking about a Core i5 with corresponding intel graphics, btw). 2. glxgears reports Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate. 291 frames in 5.0 seconds = 58.121 FPS So, even if it is running vsync, 58 FPS is definitely not the refresh rate. Previously, it has been around 1000 FPS or something like this. I don't believe mplayer is really the problem since VLC also has this problem and ffmpeg was not updated. Does anyone else experience this? I don't have an xorg.conf file. Do I need to make some settings since updating KDE? Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Recently reduced video/render performance
On 18 May 2011 15:59, Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote: Hi list! Since updating to mplayer and KDE to current stable (media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20101114 and kde-4.6), I notice two performance regressions: 1. The system can no longer handle videos with VGA resolution or higher at 25 FPS (I'm talking about a Core i5 with corresponding intel graphics, btw). 2. glxgears reports Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate. 291 frames in 5.0 seconds = 58.121 FPS So, even if it is running vsync, 58 FPS is definitely not the refresh rate. Previously, it has been around 1000 FPS or something like this. I don't believe mplayer is really the problem since VLC also has this problem and ffmpeg was not updated. Does anyone else experience this? I don't have an xorg.conf file. Do I need to make some settings since updating KDE? Have you implemented KMS for intel as described here? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml The driver should pick up the necessary refresh rates from EDID and you should not need to set anything up manually. Xorg configuration is only necessary when you want to configure input devices if the default evdev settings are for some reason not suitable for you. I don't have an intel card to compare settings, but hopefully someone ought to come up soon. -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
Peter Humphrey wrote: My setup works just fine with run-levels that I set up years ago. I have one for no-x, which as well as not starting X also omits services that are only useful in X. I also use the nonetwork run-level for major emerges such as wholesale upgrades of KDE. The only thing I can think of at the moment that annoys me about open-rc is the loss of alphabetical ordering in the output from rc-update -s -v; everything else just works (well, apart from Flash in web browsers, but that hardly counts). I came in for a break. I'm disabled so I just do a little then take a breather. Whew!! Anyway, I think it is something on my rig that is not right. I'm hoping to test my old x86 rig soon. It is a really old install with some really old config files. If it works there, then I know it is just this install be it something specific to amd86 or just a setting I have that others don't. Could the kernel affect this somehow? Will try to reboot this rig later on. I'll have to get a monitor and stuff hooked to my old x86 rig to test it. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] RE: open-vm-tools FATAL: Module vmblock not found
-original message- Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: open-vm-tools FATAL: Module vmblock not found From: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com Date: 2011-05-18 21:29 On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: Alright, it works... so what does vmblock actually do? man vmblock :) Yeah. The thought crossed my mind just 10 seconds after hitting send :-/ Apparently it is a driver to assist with drag 'n drop operations in VMware, or something. A singularly misleading name if you ask me... Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: SNIP everything else just works (well, apart from Flash in web browsers, but that hardly counts). -- Rgds Peter What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since updating to OpenRC? Granted, I run only Firefox-3.6.X but I see no problem that I recognize on any of my machines. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 06:40:02PM +0200, Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: SNIP everything else just works (well, apart from Flash in web browsers, but that hardly counts). What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since updating to OpenRC? Granted, I run only Firefox-3.6.X but I see no problem that I recognize on any of my machines. Actually the latest flash update appears to have restored functional fullscreen video on my old thinkpad T-42. Several versions ago there was an update that had made it unwatchable in fullscreen. -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
[gentoo-user] Flash lockups
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:35:11 Mark Knecht wrote: What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since updating to OpenRC? Granted, I run only Firefox-3.6.X but I see no problem that I recognize on any of my machines. I upgraded to openrc 10 days ago and didn't notice anything untoward, but after a few days Firefox 3.6.17 started reporting that it couldn't find Flash. (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) I tried Opera, Chrome and Seamonkey, and they either said the same or just sat and looked at me when asked to stream audio. I tried re-merging adobe-flash and nspluginwrapper a couple of times and now the audio streaming runs, but I'm suffering random lockups when cycling desktops, and I think I remember reading that Flash does sometimes cause lockups. I'm thinking of removing everything flash and substituting gnash or something, because I do like to listen to the radio. This is an amd64 box. I have only: $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords ~app-office/libreoffice-3.3.1 -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:52:22 Indi wrote: Actually the latest flash update appears to have restored functional fullscreen video on my old thinkpad T-42. Several versions ago there was an update that had made it unwatchable in fullscreen. I've just installed version 10.2.159.1_p201011173. I'll see how that behaves - thanks. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Recently reduced video/render performance
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 16:59:13 Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! Since updating to mplayer and KDE to current stable (media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20101114 and kde-4.6), I notice two performance regressions: 1. The system can no longer handle videos with VGA resolution or higher at 25 FPS (I'm talking about a Core i5 with corresponding intel graphics, btw). 2. glxgears reports Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate. 291 frames in 5.0 seconds = 58.121 FPS So, even if it is running vsync, 58 FPS is definitely not the refresh rate. Previously, it has been around 1000 FPS or something like this. I don't believe mplayer is really the problem since VLC also has this problem and ffmpeg was not updated. Does anyone else experience this? I don't have an xorg.conf file. Do I need to make some settings since updating KDE? Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp you have vsync turned on. Turn it off.
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
on 05/18/2011 08:05 PM Peter Humphrey wrote the following: On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:52:22 Indi wrote: Actually the latest flash update appears to have restored functional fullscreen video on my old thinkpad T-42. Several versions ago there was an update that had made it unwatchable in fullscreen. I've just installed version 10.2.159.1_p201011173. I'll see how that behaves - thanks. If it doesn't work, try it with www-client/chromium.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Genkernel + ROOT=/tmp/rootfs ?
On 05/16/2011 03:24 PM, Kfir Lavi wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Kfir Lavi lavi.k...@gmail.com mailto:lavi.k...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm building a catalyst target for installing with ROOT=/tmp/rootfs Looking on the genkernel man page and I can't find a way to install the kernel to ROOT. Is there a way to do that? Thanks, Kfir Anyone? I could imagine that # Set the boot directory, default is /boot #BOOTDIR=/boot in /etc/genkernel.conf is what you need. Does that work? Best, Sebastian
Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:57:55 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:35:11 Mark Knecht wrote: What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since updating to OpenRC? Granted, I run only Firefox-3.6.X but I see no problem that I recognize on any of my machines. I upgraded to openrc 10 days ago and didn't notice anything untoward, but after a few days Firefox 3.6.17 started reporting that it couldn't find Flash. (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) I tried Opera, Chrome and Seamonkey, and they either said the same or just sat and looked at me when asked to stream audio. I tried re-merging adobe-flash and nspluginwrapper a couple of times and now the audio streaming runs, but I'm suffering random lockups when cycling desktops, and I think I remember reading that Flash does sometimes cause lockups. I'm thinking of removing everything flash and substituting gnash or something, because I do like to listen to the radio. This is an amd64 box. I have only: $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords ~app-office/libreoffice-3.3.1 I believe these may be related to having the oficial nvidia drivers. When having those, it wants to use hardware acceleration and adobe hasn't figured out how to do that properly yet -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Cmdline image resizer understanding gamma ?
On 05/05/2011 01:06 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: I stumbled upon the article Gamma error in picture scaling http://www.4p8.com/eric.brasseur/gamma.html#Use_a_correct_software recently. I was actually pointed to it be some tool applying the proper algortihm. I think it was command line. In the meantime a person called Jure kindly pointed me to media-gfx/imageworsener now, which is what I initially was looking for. Best, Sebastian
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.6 with two monitors does not respect boundaries/edges between them
Apparently, though unproven, at 05:50 on Wednesday 18 May 2011, Bill Longman did opine thusly: I don't know if this is considered hijacking this thread or not but I have a similar issue getting my kde to remember its screen layout. Two screens with different resolutions and kde just will NOT remember what I tell it to do. Is there some secret X mojo I have to do to the X configuration files Yes. Delete them. to augment what kde knows about the display geometry? What's more annoying is that I have other machines that have no problem. What's the general consensus for configuring multiple heads? Just go with xorg.conf? Add Monitor sections in xorg.conf.d? Do you have an xorg.conf? I suspect X has correctly figured out what you have and then you turn around and tell it something different. Whereupon it believes you. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:57:55 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:35:11 Mark Knecht wrote: What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since updating to OpenRC? Granted, I run only Firefox-3.6.X but I see no problem that I recognize on any of my machines. I upgraded to openrc 10 days ago and didn't notice anything untoward, but after a few days Firefox 3.6.17 started reporting that it couldn't find Flash. (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) I tried Opera, Chrome and Seamonkey, and they either said the same or just sat and looked at me when asked to stream audio. I tried re-merging adobe-flash and nspluginwrapper a couple of times and now the audio streaming runs, but I'm suffering random lockups when cycling desktops, and I think I remember reading that Flash does sometimes cause lockups. I'm thinking of removing everything flash and substituting gnash or something, because I do like to listen to the radio. This is an amd64 box. I have only: $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords ~app-office/libreoffice-3.3.1 I believe these may be related to having the oficial nvidia drivers. When having those, it wants to use hardware acceleration and adobe hasn't figured out how to do that properly yet -- Joost I do use the ~amd64 nvidia-driver flash here and haven't seen any problems, although I don't make a lot of use of Flash in Linux but rather do most media watching in a Win XP VM. - Mark mark@c2stable ~ $ eix -Ic flash [I] www-plugins/adobe-flash (10.3.181.14-r1@05/14/11): Adobe Flash Player mark@c2stable ~ $ eix -Ic nvidia [I] dev-util/nvidia-cuda-sdk (3.2@01/31/11): NVIDIA CUDA Software Development Kit [I] dev-util/nvidia-cuda-toolkit (3.2@01/31/11): NVIDIA CUDA Toolkit [I] media-video/nvidia-settings (260.19.29@01/26/11): NVIDIA Linux X11 Settings Utility [I] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers (270.41.06@05/11/11): NVIDIA X11 driver and GLX libraries Found 4 matches. mark@c2stable ~ $
Re: [gentoo-user] e17 fails to build from svn
Apparently, though unproven, at 08:43 on Wednesday 18 May 2011, Mick did opine thusly: Very last comment here: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/759 (ignore raster's anti-gentoo packager rants) Per your initial post, you have: [ebuild R ] dev-libs/eeze-1.0.0 USE=nls -doc -static-libs 0 kB [0] I'm certain you forgot to unmask eeze when it first hit the overlay Yes! That was it! I had unmasked it on the first machine, but not the second. I am confused though, shouldn't it come back and tell me that ezee was required as a dependency and it was masked? There's a bug in the ebuild: $ equery depends eeze * These packages depend on eeze: x11-wm/enlightenment- (udev ? dev-libs/eeze) (!hal ? dev-libs/eeze) $ All other deps for efl packages specifically state version - except this one. eeze is part of EFL and released as 1.0.0, so that dep is satisfied. Thank you very much! :) PS. You didn't say if icons for USB sticks disappear from your desktop when you unplug them. Haven't used e17 much lately and almost never use icons on the desktop (mount/umount in an xterm instead - old habit). But the google search that found the thread above also found something that automounting was done by hal in the past, that ehal is e17 code to interface with hal and it is enabled/disabled at run time using detection routines. Plus a few other snippets of info that led me to believe autodetection of devices doesn't work reliably at this time without hal. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] is a nice place :-D
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:17 on Wednesday 18 May 2011, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Tue, 17 May 2011 18:38:33 +0100, Stroller wrote: Not addressed at you, specifically, but it rather seems like sed awk are much under-appreciated these days. I'd guess that this may be due to the changing nature of *nix users, but they seem to have gone out of fashion. Aside from sed's simple replace, I have certainly never learned to do anything useful with them. They both have a steep initial learning curve, which leads to their adoption being put off. I put awk in the same category as screen, one of those programs that you hear people going on about for years, but always manage to put off trying them. Once you do try them, you use them for everything but slicing bread. Add bash to that list. Have you read the full man page for the bloody thing? No wonder most folk stop at launching it after login -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.6 with two monitors does not respect boundaries/edges between them
On 05/18/2011 11:53 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Do you have an xorg.conf? I suspect X has correctly figured out what you have and then you turn around and tell it something different. Whereupon it believes you. When I have NO xorg.conf file, KDE starts in clone mode. The 1280x1024 LCD wins and the 1680x1050 gets that same resolution. Or worse still, the widescreen is disabled. I've gone into krandrtray and Systems Settings and, in 4.6 now, can save it as the default. It never does, or, if it really is saving defaults, it is ignored upon next KDE restart.
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wed, 18 May 2011 14:28:45 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Put rc_hotplug=!net.* into /etc/rc.conf. The system is getting too clever by half; nowadays it starts whatever it can, and only then does it look to see what you've set via rc-update. Openrc defaults to having hotplug disabled # rc_hotplug is a list of services that we allow to be hotplugged. # By default we do not allow hotplugging. So someone must have enabled it. -- Neil Bothwick Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] is a nice place :-D
On Wed, 18 May 2011 21:03:47 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: They both have a steep initial learning curve, which leads to their adoption being put off. I put awk in the same category as screen, one of those programs that you hear people going on about for years, but always manage to put off trying them. Once you do try them, you use them for everything but slicing bread. Add bash to that list. Have you read the full man page for the bloody thing? It's better than the zsh man page, which is split into several pages. That sounds like a good idea, and it would have been if there had been some sort of index so you knew which page to look on. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 46: Found missing signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] is a nice place :-D
Hi, Alan. On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 09:03:47PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 12:17 on Wednesday 18 May 2011, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Tue, 17 May 2011 18:38:33 +0100, Stroller wrote: Not addressed at you, specifically, but it rather seems like sed awk are much under-appreciated these days. I'd guess that this may be due to the changing nature of *nix users, but they seem to have gone out of fashion. Aside from sed's simple replace, I have certainly never learned to do anything useful with them. They both have a steep initial learning curve, which leads to their adoption being put off. I put awk in the same category as screen, one of those programs that you hear people going on about for years, but always manage to put off trying them. Once you do try them, you use them for everything but slicing bread. Add bash to that list. Have you read the full man page for the bloody thing? You're not meant to read that man page through from beginning to end. Anybody who could learn bash that way would be superhuman. Unfortunately, the info pages for bash are not well organised. So beginners have to learn from books, many of which are not good. And bash is about the most disorganised, arbitrary language around, full of crazy little quirks and odd sytaxes. And I love it. ;-) No wonder most folk stop at launching it after login -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.6 with two monitors does not respect boundaries/edges between them
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 19:53:38 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 05:50 on Wednesday 18 May 2011, Bill Longman did opine thusly: I don't know if this is considered hijacking this thread or not but I have a similar issue getting my kde to remember its screen layout. Two screens with different resolutions and kde just will NOT remember what I tell it to do. Is there some secret X mojo I have to do to the X configuration files Yes. Delete them. to augment what kde knows about the display geometry? What's more annoying is that I have other machines that have no problem. What's the general consensus for configuring multiple heads? Just go with xorg.conf? Add Monitor sections in xorg.conf.d? Do you have an xorg.conf? I suspect X has correctly figured out what you have and then you turn around and tell it something different. Whereupon it believes you. Thank you all for your help, Florian's suggestion and Leonardo's confirmation is what worked for me too. Everything is as it was before KDE4.6, except for one thing, the kdm login box shows up on the left hand monitor, and the KDE splash comes up on the right hand monitor after entering the passwd. Previously it was in the middle of the whole virtual desktop and stayed there throughout the KDE startup process. This is more of an observation, rather than a complaint. It seems that the two monitors are separate under KDM and the KDM wallpaper is cloned, but the login box is not. In KDE-4.5.5, during KDM the two monitors behaved as one (xinerama style) and then they split into separate screens after KDE started up. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.6 with two monitors does not respect boundaries/edges between them
Apparently, though unproven, at 21:48 on Wednesday 18 May 2011, Bill Longman did opine thusly: On 05/18/2011 11:53 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Do you have an xorg.conf? I suspect X has correctly figured out what you have and then you turn around and tell it something different. Whereupon it believes you. When I have NO xorg.conf file, KDE starts in clone mode. The 1280x1024 LCD wins and the 1680x1050 gets that same resolution. Or worse still, the widescreen is disabled. I've gone into krandrtray and Systems Settings and, in 4.6 now, can save it as the default. It never does, or, if it really is saving defaults, it is ignored upon next KDE restart. I have a 1920x1200 internal LCD and two different Samsungs (home work), both 1920x1080. I do not have the issues you experience - everything works as it should and has done so for many versions now, with both nvidia and nouveau drivers. This would be a good time to post actual configs. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 20:59:59 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 18 May 2011 14:28:45 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Put rc_hotplug=!net.* into /etc/rc.conf. The system is getting too clever by half; nowadays it starts whatever it can, and only then does it look to see what you've set via rc-update. Openrc defaults to having hotplug disabled # rc_hotplug is a list of services that we allow to be hotplugged. # By default we do not allow hotplugging. So someone must have enabled it. I had mine enabled and that's why (I surmised) that softlevel=nonetwork booted up and started eth0, but did not start up iptables. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] is a nice place :-D
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:15 on Wednesday 18 May 2011, Alan Mackenzie did opine thusly: Hi, Alan. On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 09:03:47PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 12:17 on Wednesday 18 May 2011, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Tue, 17 May 2011 18:38:33 +0100, Stroller wrote: Not addressed at you, specifically, but it rather seems like sed awk are much under-appreciated these days. I'd guess that this may be due to the changing nature of *nix users, but they seem to have gone out of fashion. Aside from sed's simple replace, I have certainly never learned to do anything useful with them. They both have a steep initial learning curve, which leads to their adoption being put off. I put awk in the same category as screen, one of those programs that you hear people going on about for years, but always manage to put off trying them. Once you do try them, you use them for everything but slicing bread. Add bash to that list. Have you read the full man page for the bloody thing? You're not meant to read that man page through from beginning to end. Um, I did Anybody who could learn bash that way would be superhuman. I doubt I learned much though. I even took the effort to reformat it as an OOo doc so I could find stuff and give it to others. It was an interesting exercise, not necessary an interesting *learning* exercise Unfortunately, the info pages for bash are not well organised. So beginners have to learn from books, many of which are not good. And bash is about the most disorganised, arbitrary language around, full of crazy little quirks and odd sytaxes. And I love it. ;-) The difference between bash and perl? Perl was inspired by a linguist, who at least puts his foot down at the truly crazy suggestions. Bash has no such thing. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] e17 fails to build from svn
Apparently, though unproven, at 21:34 on Tuesday 17 May 2011, Mick did opine thusly: Anyway, tonight it failed right on the first package: Emerging (1 of 10) dev-libs/eina- from enlightenment [snip] ../../src/include/eina_binbuf.h:209: note: previous declaration of 'eina_binbuf_length_get' was here eina_amalgamation.c:17936: error: redefinition of '__STRBUF_MAGIC_STR' eina_amalgamation.c:1222: note: previous definition of '__STRBUF_MAGIC_STR' was here FYI, this is fixed in svn now -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.6 with two monitors does not respect boundaries/edges between them
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 21:24:17 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 21:48 on Wednesday 18 May 2011, Bill Longman did opine thusly: On 05/18/2011 11:53 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Do you have an xorg.conf? I suspect X has correctly figured out what you have and then you turn around and tell it something different. Whereupon it believes you. When I have NO xorg.conf file, KDE starts in clone mode. The 1280x1024 LCD wins and the 1680x1050 gets that same resolution. Or worse still, the widescreen is disabled. I've gone into krandrtray and Systems Settings and, in 4.6 now, can save it as the default. It never does, or, if it really is saving defaults, it is ignored upon next KDE restart. I have a 1920x1200 internal LCD and two different Samsungs (home work), both 1920x1080. I do not have the issues you experience - everything works as it should and has done so for many versions now, with both nvidia and nouveau drivers. This would be a good time to post actual configs. ... and following my recent experience start with: euse -i xinerama BTW, I do have an xorg file in which among other things I have defined two monitors: Section Monitor #DisplaySize 360 290 # mm Identifier Monitor0 VendorName NEC ModelNameNEC LCD1860NX HorizSync31.0 - 82.0 VertRefresh 55.0 - 85.0 Option PreferredMode 1280x1024 Option DPMS EndSection Section Monitor #DisplaySize 510 290 # mm Identifier Monitor1 VendorName DEL ModelNameDELL ST2320L HorizSync56.0 - 76.0 VertRefresh 30.0 - 83.0 Option PreferredMode 1920x1080 Option RightOf Monitor0 Option DPMS EndSection and under Section Device I have: Identifier Card0 Driver radeon BusID PCI:1:0:0 Option monitor-VGA-0 Monitor0 Option monitor-DVI-0 Monitor1 but these are historical. I have not tried removing them to see what happens. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] e17 fails to build from svn
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 21:31:54 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 21:34 on Tuesday 17 May 2011, Mick did opine thusly: Anyway, tonight it failed right on the first package: Emerging (1 of 10) dev-libs/eina- from enlightenment [snip] ../../src/include/eina_binbuf.h:209: note: previous declaration of 'eina_binbuf_length_get' was here eina_amalgamation.c:17936: error: redefinition of '__STRBUF_MAGIC_STR' eina_amalgamation.c:1222: note: previous definition of '__STRBUF_MAGIC_STR' was here FYI, this is fixed in svn now Thanks Alan, now that I sorted out ezee I'll give it a spin in a mo. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] decplean left libtunepimp.la behind
Had a depclean session which removed: media-libs/musicbrainz selected: 2.1.5 protected: none omitted: 3.0.2 Then I followed up with revdep-rebuild and this comes up: * Generated new 1_files.rr * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr * Checking dynamic linking consistency [ 67% ] * broken /usr/lib/libtunepimp.la (requires -lmusicbrainz) [snip ...] * Assigning files to packages * !!! /usr/lib/libtunepimp.la not owned by any package is broken !!! * /usr/lib/libtunepimp.la - (none) What is -lmusicbrainz and is it telling me to just delete /usr/lib/libtunepimp.la? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] decplean left libtunepimp.la behind
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: What is -lmusicbrainz and is it telling me to just delete /usr/lib/libtunepimp.la? It's a library for accessing music metadata from http://musicbrainz.org/ I think the *.la file might be left over because it was changed after being emerged (say, you upgraded to a new gcc and the .la files were updated by tool rather than re-emerging everything in the world). So unmerge would leave it behind because the checksum doesn't match that which was originally installed. So, yes, I would delete it. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] decplean left libtunepimp.la behind
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:06 on Wednesday 18 May 2011, Mick did opine thusly: Had a depclean session which removed: media-libs/musicbrainz selected: 2.1.5 protected: none omitted: 3.0.2 Then I followed up with revdep-rebuild and this comes up: * Generated new 1_files.rr * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr * Checking dynamic linking consistency [ 67% ] * broken /usr/lib/libtunepimp.la (requires -lmusicbrainz) [snip ...] * Assigning files to packages * !!! /usr/lib/libtunepimp.la not owned by any package is broken !!! * /usr/lib/libtunepimp.la - (none) What is -lmusicbrainz and is it telling me to just delete /usr/lib/libtunepimp.la? Look into any *.la file and you will see stuff like this: /usr/lib/libsqlite3.la:dependency_libs=' -ldl -lpthread' The .la files are hints to the linker telling it how to do stuff, the -l bits reference libraries that will be needed. Far more often than is acceptable, libtool cocks this up in spectacular ways, which is why we had lafilefixer --justfixit for so long, and why it is now built into portage. I have musicbrainz, but I do not have /usr/lib/libtunepimp.la and yours is orphaned anyway - it probably got left behind long ago when depclean didn't know it was related to musicbrainz. Just delete the thing, be done with it, revdep-rebuild will stfu and you will be a much happier chappy -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] decplean left libtunepimp.la behind
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 22:28:38 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:06 on Wednesday 18 May 2011, Mick did opine thusly: Had a depclean session which removed: media-libs/musicbrainz selected: 2.1.5 protected: none omitted: 3.0.2 Then I followed up with revdep-rebuild and this comes up: * Generated new 1_files.rr * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr * Checking dynamic linking consistency [ 67% ] * broken /usr/lib/libtunepimp.la (requires -lmusicbrainz) [snip ...] * Assigning files to packages * !!! /usr/lib/libtunepimp.la not owned by any package is broken !!! * /usr/lib/libtunepimp.la - (none) What is -lmusicbrainz and is it telling me to just delete /usr/lib/libtunepimp.la? Look into any *.la file and you will see stuff like this: /usr/lib/libsqlite3.la:dependency_libs=' -ldl -lpthread' The .la files are hints to the linker telling it how to do stuff, the -l bits reference libraries that will be needed. Far more often than is acceptable, libtool cocks this up in spectacular ways, which is why we had lafilefixer --justfixit for so long, and why it is now built into portage. I have musicbrainz, but I do not have /usr/lib/libtunepimp.la and yours is orphaned anyway - it probably got left behind long ago when depclean didn't know it was related to musicbrainz. Just delete the thing, be done with it, revdep-rebuild will stfu and you will be a much happier chappy Thanks guys, it's been blitzed! -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 07:10:02PM +0200, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:52:22 Indi wrote: Actually the latest flash update appears to have restored functional fullscreen video on my old thinkpad T-42. Several versions ago there was an update that had made it unwatchable in fullscreen. I've just installed version 10.2.159.1_p201011173. I'll see how that behaves - thanks. The version I have now is 10.3.181.14-r1 (~x86 machine). Never had any luck with fullscreen in the 10.2 series. -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 19:05:28 Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:57:55 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:35:11 Mark Knecht wrote: What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since updating to OpenRC? Granted, I run only Firefox-3.6.X but I see no problem that I recognize on any of my machines. I upgraded to openrc 10 days ago and didn't notice anything untoward, but after a few days Firefox 3.6.17 started reporting that it couldn't find Flash. (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) I tried Opera, Chrome and Seamonkey, and they either said the same or just sat and looked at me when asked to stream audio. I tried re-merging adobe-flash and nspluginwrapper a couple of times and now the audio streaming runs, but I'm suffering random lockups when cycling desktops, and I think I remember reading that Flash does sometimes cause lockups. I'm thinking of removing everything flash and substituting gnash or something, because I do like to listen to the radio. This is an amd64 box. I have only: $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords ~app-office/libreoffice-3.3.1 I believe these may be related to having the oficial nvidia drivers. When having those, it wants to use hardware acceleration and adobe hasn't figured out how to do that properly yet I realised a second after clicking Send that I hadn't said I'm using the nouveau driver. I don't have nvidia-drivers installed. So it isn't that. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 18:22:10 Thanasis wrote: If it doesn't work, try it with www-client/chromium. I've already tried chomium, konqueror and opera. No improvement. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups
I upgraded to openrc 10 days ago and didn't notice anything untoward, but after a few days Firefox 3.6.17 started reporting that it couldn't find Flash. (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) I tried Opera, Chrome and Seamonkey, and they either said the same or just sat and looked at me when asked to stream audio. I'm amd64 too, but run ~amd64 for flash and Firefox. 10.2 was a real piece of crap, but 10.3 has just hit portage and it seems fine so far. On a related note, who's using gnash (which is in portage), or lightspark (in portage but masked)? Are they drop in replacements for flash? As they're source I imagine they may be a better alternative for amd64 than the 32 bit adobe player.
[gentoo-user] portage python USE flags.
I have a quick question. I sync'd a bit ago and noticed something a bit odd. Here it is: [ebuild U *] sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha34 [2.2.0_alpha33] USE=(ipc) -build -doc -epydoc -python2 -python3 (-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl 794 kB I know portage needs python but check out the USE flags. Both python2 and python3 are disabled. Shouldn't one of those be enabled? Even better, shouldn't portage complain a bit about this before emerging? Thing is, I'm tempted to enable them both. 2.7 is currently being used but won't 3.1 be used eventually? Should I enable both or just emerge as is? That is the unstable version so if this is a problem, I want to file a bug before someone else runs into this and ends up with a borked system. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] portage python USE flags.
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 02:40:01AM +0200, Dale wrote: I have a quick question. I sync'd a bit ago and noticed something a bit odd. Here it is: [ebuild U *] sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha34 [2.2.0_alpha33] USE=(ipc) -build -doc -epydoc -python2 -python3 (-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl 794 kB I know portage needs python but check out the USE flags. Both python2 and python3 are disabled. Shouldn't one of those be enabled? Even better, shouldn't portage complain a bit about this before emerging? Thing is, I'm tempted to enable them both. 2.7 is currently being used but won't 3.1 be used eventually? Should I enable both or just emerge as is? Pretty sure that if you have -python2 or whatever that only works against building things which have an optional python bit, and has no effect on things you have which are python-based system bits. The USE flags affect options, they don't bar things altogether. I have -gtk -qt4 -qt3support in make.conf, but it doesn't stop me from installing gtk-based things -- just stops the building of *optional* gtk guis. Even so, I wouldn't do that with something as critical as python. The real question is why do you hate python? :) -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
Re: [gentoo-user] portage python USE flags.
Apparently, though unproven, at 02:30 on Thursday 19 May 2011, Dale did opine thusly: I have a quick question. I sync'd a bit ago and noticed something a bit odd. Here it is: [ebuild U *] sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha34 [2.2.0_alpha33] USE=(ipc) -build -doc -epydoc -python2 -python3 (-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl 794 kB I know portage needs python but check out the USE flags. Both python2 and python3 are disabled. Shouldn't one of those be enabled? Even better, shouldn't portage complain a bit about this before emerging? Thing is, I'm tempted to enable them both. 2.7 is currently being used but won't 3.1 be used eventually? Should I enable both or just emerge as is? That is the unstable version so if this is a problem, I want to file a bug before someone else runs into this and ends up with a borked system. The solution, as always, is in the ebuild. But first a clarification: USE flags are NOT some scheme where support will or will not be built, or that other packages will be magically removed somehow. They are programming variables and are used as such. Inside the ebuild, the code looks at the flag and does something with it. Usually it does what you expect: python_dep=python3? ( =dev-lang/python-3* ) !python2? ( !python3? ( build? ( || ( dev-lang/python:2.7 dev-lang/python:2.6 ) ) !build? ( || ( dev-lang/python:2.7 dev-lang/python:2.6 =dev- lang/python-3 ) ) ) ) python2? ( !python3? ( || ( dev-lang/python:2.7 dev-lang/python:2.6 ) ) ) What that basically comes down to (2nd and 3rd cases swapped for clarity) is: python3 is set = require python-3 python2 is set and python3 is not set = require python-2.6 or python-2.7 python2 is not set python3 is not set = require python-2.6 or python-2.7 Elsewhere is the ebuild you get stuff like this: if use python3; then python_set_active_version 3 elif use python2; then python_set_active_version 2 Which basically means always set active version to python-2.x regardless of anything else unless USE=python-3, in which case set the active version to python-3. So, no bug here, nothing to see, move along folks. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups
On Thursday 19 May 2011 01:23:10 Adam Carter wrote: 10.2 was a real piece of crap, but 10.3 has just hit portage and it seems fine so far. Ah, thanks. I've just installed that version and will see how it goes. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] portage python USE flags.
On Thursday 19 May 2011 01:30:32 Dale wrote: I know portage needs python but check out the USE flags. Both python2 and python3 are disabled. If you check emerge --info you may find, as I do, that just python is enabled, without reference to the version. In that case I suggest you shouldn't tamper with it! -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups
On 18/5/2011, at 5:57pm, Peter Humphrey wrote: ... (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) Why do you bother at all, then? Use get_iplayer: http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] portage python USE flags.
Indi wrote: On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 02:40:01AM +0200, Dale wrote: I have a quick question. I sync'd a bit ago and noticed something a bit odd. Here it is: [ebuild U *] sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha34 [2.2.0_alpha33] USE=(ipc) -build -doc -epydoc -python2 -python3 (-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl 794 kB I know portage needs python but check out the USE flags. Both python2 and python3 are disabled. Shouldn't one of those be enabled? Even better, shouldn't portage complain a bit about this before emerging? Thing is, I'm tempted to enable them both. 2.7 is currently being used but won't 3.1 be used eventually? Should I enable both or just emerge as is? Pretty sure that if you have -python2 or whatever that only works against building things which have an optional python bit, and has no effect on things you have which are python-based system bits. The USE flags affect options, they don't bar things altogether. I have -gtk -qt4 -qt3support in make.conf, but it doesn't stop me from installing gtk-based things -- just stops the building of *optional* gtk guis. Even so, I wouldn't do that with something as critical as python. The real question is why do you hate python? :) I don't hate python. I didn't disable python either. This just sort of popped up. I check USE flags and I don't recall seeing this before. Then again, I don't question portage updates to much either. I read other replies and it seems the ebuild is going to make sure everything stays sane so off to finish my updates. Thanks to all. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups
On Thursday 19 May 2011 02:28:21 Stroller wrote: On 18/5/2011, at 5:57pm, Peter Humphrey wrote: ... (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) Why do you bother at all, then? Use get_iplayer: http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git I'd never heard of it, that's why. Many thanks for the pointer. -- Rgds Peter
[gentoo-user] system rescue usb stick
Hello, Is SystemRescueCd still a good system rescue tool? The web site has not been updated for over 1 year. Thanks for other suggestions. -- Valmor
[gentoo-user] RIP lafilefixer: I must have missed the memo
I've been using dev-util/lafilefixer ever since I learned about it. Now I've bumped into a thread whose latest posts suggests that it is now obsolete, with a better capability built into portage. I hope this is true. I'd love to ditch it because lafilefixer --justfixit never fails to process some packages that are hardwired for one reason or another. Some search engine results suggest this may be true, but they're mostly old. Is this still and permanently true? If so, why is it still in portage and no mention of its obsolesence in the elogs? -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] portage python USE flags.
I don't hate python. I didn't disable python either. This just sort of popped up. I check USE flags and I don't recall seeing this before. Then again, I don't question portage updates to much either. I read other replies and it seems the ebuild is going to make sure everything stays sane so off to finish my updates. To get -pythonX, that would need to be set via IUSE in the build, or USE in your make.conf right?
Re: [gentoo-user] system rescue usb stick
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Is SystemRescueCd still a good system rescue tool? The web site has not been updated for over 1 year. Thanks for other suggestions. -- Valmor Yes I have used it quite a bit. they have been releasing new disc isos about once a month. James Wall
Re: [gentoo-user] system rescue usb stick
Valmor de Almeida wrote: Hello, Is SystemRescueCd still a good system rescue tool? The web site has not been updated for over 1 year. Thanks for other suggestions. -- Valmor I downloaded one a while back and used it recently and it worked fine. Basically, it is a minimal Gentoo from my understanding and from the looks of it. As long as the kernel supports the hardware, it should work fine. So, unless you have just built some bleeding edge rig, you shouldn't have any problems using it. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups
On 19/5/2011, at 2:41am, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 19 May 2011 02:28:21 Stroller wrote: On 18/5/2011, at 5:57pm, Peter Humphrey wrote: ... (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) Why do you bother at all, then? Use get_iplayer: http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git I'd never heard of it, that's why. Many thanks for the pointer. It's definitely worth joining the mailing list. It's low-volume, but that's where you'll discover updates. The BBC periodically change their SWF validation URL and stuff like this. get_iplayer is a bit obscenely complicated, but once you set a cron job to run `--pvr-queue` and daily email delivery of new programmes it becomes really simple just to queue a new show for download. I tend to use things like `get_iplayer --longhelp | grep search` when I do want to do something different. Make sure you use `--prefs-add` to ensure prioritisation of highest quality formats, output directory c. E.G.: `get_iplayer --nopurge --prefs-add get_iplayer --prefs-show` Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] external monitor output during boot
On 05/18/2011 09:50 AM, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 22:48 -0400, Valmor de Almeida wrote: Hello, What controls the screen output to an external monitor connected to a laptop during boot or when just using a plain console without an X server running? Before a recent update the output would just automatically go to an external monitor when one is connected. Now it does not; not sure it has anything to do with the openrc migration. I think it largely depends on the particular hardware config. For my laptop it's a BIOS option. If you are using KMS however it seems to want to drive all outputs with a monitor attached. I neglected to mention that the external monitor is connected through a dock base. Actually I should test whether the external monitor works as before by connecting it directly on the vga port on the laptop... -- Valmor
