Re: [gentoo-user] KDE VM Plasmashell corrupt

2018-05-22 Thread Philip Webb
180522 Neil Bothwick wrote: > KDE5 (or KF5 or whatever they want to call it) no longer uses ~/.kde4, > config files are stored in ~/.config I'm using kde-plasma 5.11.5 , kde-frameworks 5.43.0 , kde-apps 17.12.3 . There are lots of KDE files in ~/.config , but when I restarted the system a few

[gentoo-user] Servers down earlier?

2018-05-22 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
were some of the servers needed for install down a bit ago?  was having problems with dns temporarily not resolving? in any case it seems to be working now, just trying to figure out if my gear had an issue. mad.scientist.at.large (a good madscientist) --

[gentoo-user] Re: Annoying mapping of some keys

2018-05-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-22 07:01, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > The problem occurs using X or console or ssh. Check what byte sequences those keys in fact emit. Here: matica!2 ~$ echo '^[[7~' | hexdump -C 1b 5b 37 7e 0a|.[7~.| 0005 matica!3 ~$ echo '^[[8~' |

Re:emerge [gentoo-user] logging output

2018-05-22 Thread Lucas Ramage
Use less, emerge --ask --update --deep --newuse @world | less Or screen, screen emerge --ask --update --deep --newuse @world # then Ctrl+A Esc to go into copy mode which can be navigated with up and down arrow keys Or output to file, emerge --update --deep --newuse @world >

[gentoo-user] Re: logging output

2018-05-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-05-22, wrote: > how do i capture the output to a file and see it on the > display? Use "tee" https://linux.die.net/man/1/tee emerge | tee emerge.out -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards

[gentoo-user] Re: Home/End Insert a ~ Instead of Moving Cursor

2018-05-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-22 08:07, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > On debian not even bash is linked against readline. It probably bundles its own copy. Which of course makes things harder to debug - but hey, it's easier for the developers :P There was a time when this was one of the things debian was religious about

[gentoo-user] logging output

2018-05-22 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
when i type, for example "emerge --ask --update --deep --newuse @world", how do i capture the output to a file and see it on the display?  It doesn't all fit in the konsole buffer (or should i bump it way up?)  I ask because it apparently failed to install selinux but i couldn't reread it to

[gentoo-user] Re: X11 recovery ... somehow

2018-05-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-05-06, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > I am running X11 with Nvidia-drivers 396.18-r1. > > From time to time I accidentally hit a key combo > (ALT F*) and I am thrown to the LINUX console. > > Back in the years when one setups X11 by hand > carefully inserting timings for the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: logging output

2018-05-22 Thread John Covici
On Tue, 22 May 2018 10:29:11 -0400, Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2018-05-22, > wrote: > > > how do i capture the output to a file and see it on the > > display? > > Use "tee" > > https://linux.die.net/man/1/tee > > >

[gentoo-user] Perl, PERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT

2018-05-22 Thread karl
Hello, how do I make sure PERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT is defined when building perl ? Regards, /Karl Hammar --- Aspö Data Lilla Aspö 148 S-742 94 Östhammar Sweden +46 173 140 57

Re: [gentoo-user] Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor
On 05/22/2018 07:33 PM, tu...@posteo.de wrote: putty (has a gui and minimal configuration possibilities for serial connections and bunch more...) plink is the command line / text equivalent of PuTTY, from the same authors. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: Re:emerge [gentoo-user] logging output

2018-05-22 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 12:56:12PM +, Lucas Ramage wrote > Or output to file, > > emerge --update --deep --newuse @world > emerge.log > > # then you can open it in a text editor and search around. > # I took out the `--ask` so that it wouldn't prompt before starting This will

Re: [gentoo-user] Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread tuxic
On 05/22 03:43, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 12:39 PM, wrote: > > Hi > > > > I am currently exploring Mecrisp-Stellaris FORTH on a STM32F103C8 uC. > > > > To communicate with the FORTH-system I use a serlal terminal console > > like picocom. > > > > Since I am still

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor
On 05/22/2018 05:12 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: The 3270 was completely screen-oriented. An entire screen was loaded from the host. That screen included fields with various attributes (e.g. editable vs. read-only). You could edit whatever was editable on the screen, and then when you hit

Re: [gentoo-user] Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor
On 05/22/2018 03:06 PM, David M. Fellows wrote: As a terminal emulator that has a lot of configurabilty. I'm quite curious what sort of configuration you use in (what I understand to be) a text based communications package in your day to day activities. I do so much via SSH that I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread R0b0t1
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 12:39 PM, wrote: > Hi > > I am currently exploring Mecrisp-Stellaris FORTH on a STM32F103C8 uC. > > To communicate with the FORTH-system I use a serlal terminal console > like picocom. > > Since I am still learning this quirky though fascinating language

Re: [gentoo-user] Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread R0b0t1
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 4:03 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: > On 05/22/2018 02:43 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: >> >> Have you tried screen? It may have more features than kermit by default, >> but it is intended for speaking with "smart" terminal devices and will do >> lots of

[gentoo-user] Re: Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-05-22, Grant Taylor wrote: > On 05/22/2018 02:39 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> Just to be pedantic, ckermit isn't a terminal emulator. It's a serial >> comm package that will connect a serial port to whatever terminal/tty >> you used to run the ckermit

[gentoo-user] Re: Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-05-22, Grant Taylor wrote: > On 05/22/2018 12:45 PM, David M. Fellows wrote: >> Since you want to blast to the past... kermit may do what you >> need. Back in the day it connected everything to everything. >> See http://www.kermitproject.org/ emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor
On 05/22/2018 02:43 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: Have you tried screen? It may have more features than kermit by default, but it is intended for speaking with "smart" terminal devices and will do lots of input processing. Are you saying that screen (and possibly tmux, etc.) have the ability to inject

Re: [gentoo-user] Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor
On 05/22/2018 03:44 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: Yes - screen can hold everything until you hit enter and allow you to edit the line and do wrapping clientside. Screen also handles control codes properly. Good to know. Aside: Now my brain is trying to remember the old differences between telnet and

[gentoo-user] Re: Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-05-22, Grant Taylor wrote: > Aside: Now my brain is trying to remember the old differences between > telnet and 3270 / 5250. I think that telnet was inherently line > oriented (by default) and 3270 / 5250 were something else (but I don't > remember

Re: [gentoo-user] Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread David M. Fellows
>On 05/22/2018 12:45 PM, David M. Fellows wrote: >> Since you want to blast to the past... kermit may do what you >> need. Back in the day it connected everything to everything. >> See http://www.kermitproject.org/ emerge ckermit. > >Are you advocating kermit as a protocol or as a terminal

Re: [gentoo-user] Where are the AMD microcode updates for spectre?

2018-05-22 Thread Corbin Bird
On 05/22/2018 03:41 AM, Adam Carter wrote: > On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 2:47 PM, taii...@gmx.com > > wrote: > > The fam15h microcode update adds IBPB > >   * Indirect Branch Prediction Barrier (IBPB) >     * PRED_CMD MSR is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor
On 05/22/2018 02:39 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: Just to be pedantic, ckermit isn't a terminal emulator. It's a serial comm package that will connect a serial port to whatever terminal/tty you used to run the ckermit command. It's also a file transfer protocol, but that's pretty much irrelevant

Re: [gentoo-user] Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread David M. Fellows
>Hi > >I am currently exploring Mecrisp-Stellaris FORTH on a STM32F103C8 uC. > >To communicate with the FORTH-system I use a serlal terminal console >like picocom. > >Since I am still learning this quirky though fascinating language I >really would appreciate a commandline history. > >For that I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
Den 22. mai 2018 20:28, skrev Ian Zimmerman: > On 2018-05-22 12:00, Grant Taylor wrote: > >> You might also want to check out using vim or emacs as they have >> terminal emulators built in. They might be able to apply some command >> line history / editing (in a round about way). > Indeed, if

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor
On 05/22/2018 01:00 PM, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: Pro-tip: if running emacs on the remote machine, make sure your terminal-connection does not interpret Control-S as a STOP signal, i.e. anything to do with XON/XOFF you do NOT want enabled in your shell-connection. Just to clarify, this is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor
On 05/22/2018 12:45 PM, David M. Fellows wrote: Since you want to blast to the past... kermit may do what you need. Back in the day it connected everything to everything. See http://www.kermitproject.org/ emerge ckermit. Are you advocating kermit as a protocol or as a terminal (emulator)

Re: [gentoo-user] Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor
On 05/22/2018 11:54 AM, Grant Taylor wrote: Random thought:  I have no idea if Plan9's terminal emulator has any features for this or not.  It may be worth looking at.  I believe it's been ported to Linux. You might also want to check out using vim or emacs as they have terminal emulators

[gentoo-user] Re: Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-22 12:00, Grant Taylor wrote: > You might also want to check out using vim or emacs as they have > terminal emulators built in. They might be able to apply some command > line history / editing (in a round about way). Indeed, if there isn't a prepackaged way the next easiest is

[gentoo-user] Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread tuxic
Hi I am currently exploring Mecrisp-Stellaris FORTH on a STM32F103C8 uC. To communicate with the FORTH-system I use a serlal terminal console like picocom. Since I am still learning this quirky though fascinating language I really would appreciate a commandline history. For that I tried

Re: [gentoo-user] Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor
On 05/22/2018 11:39 AM, tu...@posteo.de wrote: I am currently exploring Mecrisp-Stellaris FORTH on a STM32F103C8 uC. #learningIsFun To communicate with the FORTH-system I use a serlal terminal console like picocom. Okay. Since I am still learning this quirky though fascinating language I

Re: [gentoo-user] Home/End Insert a ~ Instead of Moving Cursor

2018-05-22 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 That hint pointed me to what seems to be the issue. It seems for me that neither /etc/inputrc nor ~/.inputrc are used on gentoo. Gentoo already has the relevant mappings in /etc/inputrc but it seems to be not set. On debian (to have something to

Re: [gentoo-user] Home/End Insert a ~ Instead of Moving Cursor

2018-05-22 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Disregard (partly) my mail before. in bash, the questionable keys work. It is only zsh where it does not work. After some digging, I found that zsh is not linked against readline. Even more it wonders me why it work on other platforms. On debian

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 recovery ... somehow

2018-05-22 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, May 6, 2018 2:45:51 PM CEST tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Hi, > > I am running X11 with Nvidia-drivers 396.18-r1. > > From time to time I accidentally hit a key combo > (ALT F*) and I am thrown to the LINUX console. > > Back in the years when one setups X11 by hand > carefully inserting

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE VM Plasmashell corrupt

2018-05-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 21 May 2018 17:36:50 -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote: > I've logged in as root and completely deleted ~/.kde4 (under my normal > login) and rebooted without fixing the issue. KDE5 (or KF5 or whatever they want to call it) no longer uses ~/.kde4, config files are stored in ~/.config --

Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying mapping of some keys

2018-05-22 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, Am Di den 22. Mai 2018 um 0:38 schrieb Damo Brisbane: > Under X, xmodmap perhaps? Well, the problem seems to be no X problem than a problem of missing termcap mappings for delete-char,

Re: [gentoo-user] Home/End Insert a ~ Instead of Moving Cursor

2018-05-22 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, Am Di den 22. Mai 2018 um 3:23 schrieb R0b0t1: > How do I fix this? I found > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Home_and_End_keys_not_working, As mentioned above in <20180520081757.gc23...@ikki.ethgen.ch> ff., that is a generic issue with

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-238 and google?

2018-05-22 Thread Mick
On Tuesday, 22 May 2018 00:13:31 BST Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 3:53 AM, Mick wrote: > > I noticed network related google variables being added in the compilation > > by emerge as udev was being updated to 238 today: [snip ...] > > I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE VM Plasmashell corrupt

2018-05-22 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 21 May 2018 17:36:50 -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote: > >> I've logged in as root and completely deleted ~/.kde4 (under my normal >> login) and rebooted without fixing the issue. > KDE5 (or KF5 or whatever they want to call it) no longer uses ~/.kde4, > config files are

Re: [gentoo-user] Where are the AMD microcode updates for spectre?

2018-05-22 Thread Adam Carter
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 2:47 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > The fam15h microcode update adds IBPB > > * Indirect Branch Prediction Barrier (IBPB) > * PRED_CMD MSR is available: YES > * CPU indicates IBPB capability: YES (IBPB_SUPPORT feature bit) > My fam15 with