[gentoo-user] portage changelogs?

2005-10-11 Thread Graham Murray
New versions of portage 2.0.X are showing up in ~arch, but the
Changelog entries only mention 2.1.0_alpha versions. Where should I
look for what has changed, eg between 2.0.52* and 2.0.53_rc?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Shell through the web

2005-10-11 Thread Christoph Gysin

James Colby wrote:
I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions of a way to get to a shell 
over the web using only port 80 or port 443.  I would like to be able to 
open up a shell on my gentoo box from , but I am behind a firewall.  I 
have  searched sourcforge and freshmeat and have not had any luck.  Is 
anyone doing this that may have a suggestion/advice for me?


If it's only a firewall just let your sshd run on port 80 or 443. Then connect 
with:


$ ssh -p 80 yourhost.domain.com

If your also behind a proxy (very likely), you need to tunnel ssh through http:

http://www.nocrew.org/software/httptunnel.html

# emerge -avt net-misc/httptunnel

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[gentoo-user] imlib error

2005-10-11 Thread Jorge Almeida
I'm trying to emerge kde-meta. It fails with imlib:

checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes
checking for XShmAttach in -lXext... yes
checking for sys/ipc.h... yes
checking for sys/shm.h... yes
checking whether shmctl IPC_RMID allowes subsequent attaches... yes
checking X11/extensions/XShm.h... yes
checking for jpeg_destroy_decompress in -ljpeg... yes
checking for jpeglib.h... yes
checking for TIFFReadScanline in -ltiff... yes
checking for tiffio.h... yes
checking for gif_lib.h... no
configure: error: *** GIF header not found ***


[EMAIL PROTECTED] / $ emerge info
Portage 2.0.51.22-r3 (default-linux/x86/2005.1, gcc-3.3.6,
glibc-2.3.5-r2, 2.6.11 i686)
=
System uname: 2.6.11 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Gentoo Base System version 1.6.13
dev-lang/python: 2.3.5, 2.4.1-r1
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.11
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.59-r6
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1
sys-devel/binutils:  2.15.92.0.2-r10
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.18-r1
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.11-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
AUTOCLEAN=yes
CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config
/usr/share/config /var/qmail/control
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gconf /etc/env.d
CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://distfiles.gentoo.org
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo;
LANG=C
MAKEOPTS=-j2
PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
SYNC=rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=x86 X bitmap-fonts bzip2 crypt cups curl doc gif jpeg jpeg2k kde
ncurses nls nptl opengl pam perl pic png python qt readline ssl tiff
truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts xml zlib userland_GNU kernel_linux
elibc_glibc
Unset:  ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY

revdep-rebuild show no errors...

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[gentoo-user] udev and nvidia

2005-10-11 Thread Alexander Puchmayr
Hi!

After upgrading the system and hence switching to kernel 2.6.13 and udev, my 
nvidia device nodes are no longer available and I did not find any way to 
create them automatically by udev.

According to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml, I have 
* nvidia listed in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6, and verified that it 
is loaded.
* media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r4 is installed 
* sys-apps/baselayout-1.11.13-r1 is installed

Additionally, I installed the coldplug package.

grep nvidia /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules
KERNEL==nvidia*,  NAME=%k, GROUP=video

Why is there no /dev/nvidia[0-7] and nvidiactl ? 
What did I forget?

Thanks for suggestions and greetings
Alex
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Re: [gentoo-user] Shell through the web

2005-10-11 Thread Drew Tomlinson

James Colby wrote:


Hi All -

I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions of a way to get to a 
shell over the web using only port 80 or port 443.  I would like to be 
able to open up a shell on my gentoo box from , but I am behind a 
firewall.  I have  searched sourcforge and freshmeat and have not had 
any luck.  Is anyone doing this that may have a suggestion/advice for me?



Thanks for your replies,
James



Seems to me that Webmin has a shell.  In other words, the machine that 
is running Webmin offers clients shell access via their browsers to 
itself.  But then if the machine upon which you want to run Webmin 
already has a web server running on it, you'll have to configure the web 
server to server Webmin's pages instead of relying upon the one that's 
included to avoid port conflicts.


HTH,

Drew
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Re: [gentoo-user] udev and nvidia

2005-10-11 Thread Drew Tomlinson

Alexander Puchmayr wrote:


Hi!

After upgrading the system and hence switching to kernel 2.6.13 and udev, my 
nvidia device nodes are no longer available and I did not find any way to 
create them automatically by udev.


According to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml, I have 
* nvidia listed in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6, and verified that it 
is loaded.
* media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r4 is installed 
* sys-apps/baselayout-1.11.13-r1 is installed


Additionally, I installed the coldplug package.

grep nvidia /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules
KERNEL==nvidia*,  NAME=%k, GROUP=video

Why is there no /dev/nvidia[0-7] and nvidiactl ? 
What did I forget?


Thanks for suggestions and greetings
Alex
 



I recall reading somewhere that because of the binary nature of the 
nvidia driver, you have to re-emerge it after building a new kernel.  
Seems like it was on a gentoo.org page about the nvidia driver.


HTH,

Drew
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[gentoo-user] Keyboard troubles and new baselayout

2005-10-11 Thread Patrick Marquetecken
Hi,

After upgrading to baselayout-1.11.13-r1 i can't login to my servers
direct with the keyboard.
After the upgrade i have used the new /etc/rc.conf and changed the
/etc/conf.d/keymaps accourding to my Belgium keyboard KEYMAP=be-latin1,
and rebooted the machine !
It seems that the @ button not work on the keyboard, on the otherhand if i
login with ssh i can use the @ sign.
Must i change something else ?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Simple command line stuff

2005-10-11 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 00:25 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 
 Oh, and another thought.  The find command can do this for you as 
 well, IIRC.



find . -type f -iname '*.wav' -exec command {} {}.foo \;

   is the syntax, IIRC.   Note the \  that exists to escape the
semicolon, therefore telling find to end processing.

find . -type f -iname '*.wav' |while read LIST; do command ${LIST}
${LIST/old/new} ; done

is another possibility.Adding limiters to find can prevent it from
recursing too deeply.


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Re: [gentoo-user] struggling with dri

2005-10-11 Thread gentoo_falstaff
On my laptop with a Mobility Radeon M7 on I noticed the same problem
after a kernel recompilation (2.6 series ~x86 flag); that is I had
Direct Rendering switched off.
I was compiling AGP as a kernel module.
Actually I solved the problem compiling AGP directly in the kernel with
the chipset code too.
I'm also using x11-drm to obtain the correct Radeon driver compiled as a
module.

I made an attempt to use ati-drivers package but I found that it doesn't
complain my card anymore.

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Re: [gentoo-user] struggling with dri

2005-10-11 Thread Fernando Meira
On 10/11/05, gentoo_falstaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On my laptop with a Mobility Radeon M7 on I noticed the same problemafter a kernel recompilation (2.6 series ~x86 flag); that is I hadDirect Rendering switched off.I was compiling AGP as a kernel module.Actually I solved the problem compiling AGP directly in the kernel with
the chipset code too.I'm also using x11-drm to obtain the correct Radeon driver compiled as amodule.
Ok, good.. I'll do the same!! That or leave it radeon as module and not built in as it is now. 
Hopefully I'll have time to try that this afternoon.
I'm using x11-drm because the HOWTO mentioned that for 2.6-kernel it should be.. 
If the first option doesn't solve my problem, I'll also give x11-drm a try... 
 I made an attempt to use ati-drivers package but I found that it doesn'tcomplain my card anymore.

Yah, same problem here!

Cheers,
Fernando 



[gentoo-user] Re: conf.d/net static routes

2005-10-11 Thread Jochen Schalanda
On 10/10/2005 09:09 PM, Tim Watson wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I currently use a conf.d/local.start script to set my default routes:
 route add 10.255.255.1 dev eth0
 route add default gw 10.255.255.1
 
 I know I can set the second one using:
 routes_eth0=( default via 10.255.255.1 )
 
 but I cannot work out the correct syntax for the first.

Try the following format (basically just the part after route add):

routes_eth0=(
  10.255.255.1 dev eth0
  default via 10.255.255.1
)

Works flawless on a dedicated server from 11.

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[gentoo-user] Re: too many kernel problems!

2005-10-11 Thread James
Petteri Räty petteri.raty at saunalahti.fi writes:


 Let me just point out that your CFLAGS are kind of stupid. You have -g
 for producing debugging information but then you have
 fomit-frame-pointer, which makes debugging impossible on some machines.

Yes, a vestige, on a system that begs for attention


James



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Re: [gentoo-user] Shell through the web

2005-10-11 Thread John Jolet
On Monday 10 October 2005 23:21, James Colby wrote:
 Hi All -

 I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions of a way to get to a shell
 over the web using only port 80 or port 443. I would like to be able to
 open up a shell on my gentoo box from , but I am behind a firewall. I have
 searched sourcforge and freshmeat and have not had any luck. Is anyone
 doing this that may have a suggestion/advice for me?

just edit sshd_config to tell sshd to listen on port 80


 Thanks for your replies,
 James

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[gentoo-user] cdrecord trouble

2005-10-11 Thread Alexey Asprov
I have finally made my usb cdr to work, however I can't burn cds
This was what I made it to work:

Device Drivers -
SCSI device support -
[*] SCSI CDROM support
USB support -
[*] EHCI HCD
[*] USB Mass Storage support
[*] Freecom USB/ATAPI Bridge support
[*] ISD-200 USB/ATA Bridge support
[*] USBAT/USBAT02-based storage support


Now... 

cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling
cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r6
cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.33
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'HP' 'CD-Writer+ 8200e' '0001' Removable Disk
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *

And...

cdrecord -v -dao speed=4 dev=0,0,0 KNOPPIX_V4.0.2CD-2005-09-23-EN.iso
Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling
cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r6
cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '0,0,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.33
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
SCSI buffer size: 64512
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable Disk
Version: 0
Response Format: 1
Vendor_info: 'HP'
Identifikation : 'CD-Writer+ 8200e'
Revision   : '0001'
Device seems to be: Generic CCS Disk.
cdrecord: Sorry, no CD/DVD-Drive found on this target

Any suggestions? I see many people have the same problem, but couldn't find the 
solution. Thanks in advance.

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage changelogs?

2005-10-11 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 15:10, Graham Murray wrote:
 New versions of portage 2.0.X are showing up in ~arch, but the
 Changelog entries only mention 2.1.0_alpha versions. Where should I
 look for what has changed, eg between 2.0.52* and 2.0.53_rc?

To prevent duplication of work, the physical ChangeLog is no longer being 
maintained. Instead, a ChangeLog will be generated from the subversion commit 
logs instead. A script will be ready and the/a ChangeLog added back to the 
tarballs again in time for the next _rc / final release.

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Re: [gentoo-user] imlib error

2005-10-11 Thread Holly Bostick
Jorge Almeida schreef:
 I'm trying to emerge kde-meta. It fails with imlib:
 
 checking for gif_lib.h... no configure: error: *** GIF header not 
 found ***

I don't use kde-meta, but I went to www.gentoo-portage.com to track down
what package you're missing (this error clearly indicates you're missing
a package, but that package is not a direct dependency of kde-meta, or
it would have been installed). Here's what I found:

Programs That Depend On imlib

app-i18n/chinput
app-i18n/minichinput
app-misc/dfm
app-misc/endeavour
dev-lang/entity
dev-python/gnome-python
dev-python/pygtk
games-board/eboard
games-kids/lletters
games-kids/stickers
gnome-base/gnome-libs
==kde-base/kuickshow
mail-client/balsa
media-gfx/frontline
media-gfx/gphoto
media-gfx/qiv
media-gfx/scigraphica
media-gfx/xzgv
media-libs/fnlib
media-sound/yconsole
media-video/camserv
net-analyzer/cheops-ng
net-im/gnophone
net-irc/bitchx
www-client/amaya
x11-misc/bbacpi
x11-misc/idesk
x11-misc/pogo
x11-misc/xteddy
x11-plugins/epplets
x11-plugins/gkrellm-alltraxclock
x11-plugins/gkrellm-bfm
x11-plugins/gkrellm-console
x11-plugins/gkrellm-mailwatch
x11-plugins/gkrellm-radio
x11-plugins/gkrellmoon
x11-plugins/gkrellmouse
x11-plugins/gkrellsun
x11-terms/mlterm
x11-themes/gtk-engines
x11-wm/fvwm
x11-wm/sawfish
!gtk2 x11-themes/gtk-engines-qtpixmap
!imlib2 www-client/w3m
imlib app-editors/zoinks
imlib app-office/magicpoint
imlib kde-base/kdegraphics
imlib mail-client/sylpheed
imlib mail-client/sylpheed-claws
imlib media-gfx/gimageview
imlib media-gfx/iv
imlib net-im/amsn
imlib www-client/w3mmee
imlib x11-misc/wmakerconf
imlib x11-wm/icewm
imlib x11-wm/qvwm

Programs That Depend On kuickshow

kde-base/kdegraphics
kde-base/kdegraphics-meta

Programs That Depend On kdegraphics-meta

kde-base/kde-meta


So imlib is needed because kde-meta depends on kdegraphics-meta, which
depends on kuickshow, which depends on imlib. But some gif header needed
by imlib is not installed or broken:

(Piped to prevent quoting)

Runtime Dependencies
imlib-1.9.15

 |   = media-libs/giflib - 4.1.0
 |   = media-libs/jpeg - 6b
 |   = media-libs/libpng - 1.2.1
 |   = media-libs/tiff - 3.5.5
 |   gtk = x11-libs/gtk+ - 1.2*

imlib-1.9.14-r3

  |  = media-libs/giflib - 4.1.0
  |  = media-libs/jpeg - 6b
  |  = media-libs/libpng - 1.2.1
  |  = media-libs/tiff - 3.5.5
  |  = x11-libs/gtk+ - 1.2*

... aand my guess is that package would be

gif = media-libs/giflib - 4.1.0

Is this package installed? If so, I would consider re-emerging it (and
possibly imlib as well), with

emerge --oneshot --ask giflib

or

emerge --oneshot --onlydeps --ask imlib

You could just emerge either or both, but that would add them to your
world file, which is not necessarily the best choice (but maybe this is
not important to you).

Or, you could of course check b.g.o (bugs.gentoo.org) to see if this is
a known problem.

Hope this helps,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Shell through the web

2005-10-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 07:37 am, Steve [Gentoo] wrote:
 I'm also vaguely hopeful that there may
 be a more efficient lower-level solution which wouldn't require the
 overhead of a process to 'pass-on' the tcp data... maybe integrated with
 ipchains or pf or similar?

If you choose to roll your own solution, that would be difficult.  Youve 
already accepted the connection, so the firewall is now configured to allow 
the packets back and forth only when related to your connection.

Without 'exec()'ing a child process to retain the open file handle, you'll be 
forced to proxy the packets on your own.

And since you don't want to exec an instance of apache (hm, perhaps an 
instance of a lightweight web proxy instead, hmm) it will be less general 
overhead to proxy packets on your own.

Technically the proxy development is not difficult, but for newbies it can be 
frustrating working out the nuances of processing asynchronous data arriving 
on one pipe let alone two.
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Re: [gentoo-user] imlib error

2005-10-11 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, Holly Bostick wrote:

 Jorge Almeida schreef:
  I'm trying to emerge kde-meta. It fails with imlib:
  
  checking for gif_lib.h... no configure: error: *** GIF header not 
  found ***
 
 I don't use kde-meta, but I went to www.gentoo-portage.com to track down
 what package you're missing (this error clearly indicates you're missing
 a package, but that package is not a direct dependency of kde-meta, or
 it would have been installed). Here's what I found:
 
 Programs That Depend On imlib
 
 app-i18n/chinput
 app-i18n/minichinput
 app-misc/dfm
 app-misc/endeavour
 dev-lang/entity
 dev-python/gnome-python
 dev-python/pygtk
 games-board/eboard
 games-kids/lletters
 games-kids/stickers
 gnome-base/gnome-libs
 ==kde-base/kuickshow
 mail-client/balsa
 media-gfx/frontline
 media-gfx/gphoto
 media-gfx/qiv
 media-gfx/scigraphica
 media-gfx/xzgv
 media-libs/fnlib
 media-sound/yconsole
 media-video/camserv
 net-analyzer/cheops-ng
 net-im/gnophone
 net-irc/bitchx
 www-client/amaya
 x11-misc/bbacpi
 x11-misc/idesk
 x11-misc/pogo
 x11-misc/xteddy
 x11-plugins/epplets
 x11-plugins/gkrellm-alltraxclock
 x11-plugins/gkrellm-bfm
 x11-plugins/gkrellm-console
 x11-plugins/gkrellm-mailwatch
 x11-plugins/gkrellm-radio
 x11-plugins/gkrellmoon
 x11-plugins/gkrellmouse
 x11-plugins/gkrellsun
 x11-terms/mlterm
 x11-themes/gtk-engines
 x11-wm/fvwm
 x11-wm/sawfish
 !gtk2 x11-themes/gtk-engines-qtpixmap
 !imlib2 www-client/w3m
 imlib app-editors/zoinks
 imlib app-office/magicpoint
 imlib kde-base/kdegraphics
 imlib mail-client/sylpheed
 imlib mail-client/sylpheed-claws
 imlib media-gfx/gimageview
 imlib media-gfx/iv
 imlib net-im/amsn
 imlib www-client/w3mmee
 imlib x11-misc/wmakerconf
 imlib x11-wm/icewm
 imlib x11-wm/qvwm
 
 Programs That Depend On kuickshow
 
 kde-base/kdegraphics
 kde-base/kdegraphics-meta
 
 Programs That Depend On kdegraphics-meta
 
 kde-base/kde-meta
 
 
 So imlib is needed because kde-meta depends on kdegraphics-meta, which
 depends on kuickshow, which depends on imlib. But some gif header needed
 by imlib is not installed or broken:
 
 (Piped to prevent quoting)
 
 Runtime Dependencies
 imlib-1.9.15
 
  |   = media-libs/giflib - 4.1.0
  |   = media-libs/jpeg - 6b
  |   = media-libs/libpng - 1.2.1
  |   = media-libs/tiff - 3.5.5
  |   gtk = x11-libs/gtk+ - 1.2*
 
 imlib-1.9.14-r3
 
   |  = media-libs/giflib - 4.1.0
   |  = media-libs/jpeg - 6b
   |  = media-libs/libpng - 1.2.1
   |  = media-libs/tiff - 3.5.5
   |  = x11-libs/gtk+ - 1.2*
 
 ... aand my guess is that package would be
 
 gif = media-libs/giflib - 4.1.0
 
 Is this package installed? If so, I would consider re-emerging it (and
Yes, but when I emerged it the gif USE flag was not set! imlib
compiles now.
 possibly imlib as well), with
 
 emerge --oneshot --ask giflib
 
 or
 
 emerge --oneshot --onlydeps --ask imlib
 
 You could just emerge either or both, but that would add them to your
 world file, which is not necessarily the best choice (but maybe this is
 not important to you).
Yes, I don't mind having it in the world file.
 
 Or, you could of course check b.g.o (bugs.gentoo.org) to see if this is
 a known problem.
 
 Hope this helps,
Your replies are _always_ helpful!
 Holly
 

Thanks, 

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Re: [gentoo-user] imlib error

2005-10-11 Thread Holly Bostick
Jorge Almeida schreef:
 On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, Holly Bostick wrote:
 
 
 Jorge Almeida schreef:
 
 I'm trying to emerge kde-meta. It fails with imlib:
 
 checking for gif_lib.h... no configure: error: *** GIF header not
  found ***
 
 I don't use kde-meta, but I went to www.gentoo-portage.com to track
  down what package you're missing (this error clearly indicates 
 you're missing a package, but that package is not a direct 
 dependency of kde-meta, or it would have been installed). Here's 
 what I found:
 
snip
 So imlib is needed because kde-meta depends on kdegraphics-meta, 
 which depends on kuickshow, which depends on imlib. But some gif 
 header needed by imlib is not installed or broken:
 
 (Piped to prevent quoting)
 
 Runtime Dependencies imlib-1.9.15
 
 |   = media-libs/giflib - 4.1.0 |   = media-libs/jpeg - 6b |   =
  media-libs/libpng - 1.2.1 |   = media-libs/tiff - 3.5.5 |   gtk =
  x11-libs/gtk+ - 1.2*
 
 imlib-1.9.14-r3
 
 |  = media-libs/giflib - 4.1.0 |  = media-libs/jpeg - 6b |  = 
 media-libs/libpng - 1.2.1 |  = media-libs/tiff - 3.5.5 |  = 
 x11-libs/gtk+ - 1.2*
 
 ... aand my guess is that package would be
 
 gif = media-libs/giflib - 4.1.0
 
 Is this package installed? If so, I would consider re-emerging it 
 (and
 
 Yes, but when I emerged it the gif USE flag was not set! imlib 
 compiles now.

I noticed that, too-- when I checked imlib and giflib on my own system,
I saw:

emerge -pv imlib giflib

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/imlib-1.9.14-r3  574 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/giflib-4.1.3  +X +gif 556 kB

.. which looked awful weird to me for two reasons:

1) it seems a bit nuts to me that a program called 'giflib' should need
optional support for 'gif' (if you compile giflib without gif support,
what the h-e-double-hockey-sticks does it do??)

2) the 'gif' USE flag is not listed on gentoo-portage.com (although
maybe it's an error in the site, since the flag that *is* listed does
not seem to come up in Portage):

Runtime Dependencies
giflib-4.1.3-r2

! media-libs/libungif -
rle media-libs/urt
X virtual/x11

giflib-4.1.3-r1

! media-libs/libungif -
X virtual/x11

giflib-4.1.3

X virtual/x11

Although gentoo-portage.com is apparently correct, given the output of a
search for the 'rle' USE flag:

useflag rle
/usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc:media-libs/giflib:rle - Build
converters for RLE format (utah raster toolkit)

which makes sense, I don't get why the 'rle' USE flag does not appear if
I request to emerge giflib, while an apparently useless 'gif' USE flag does.

So something definitely looks wonky here, but it's not you, and it would
seem that enabling the 'gif' USE flag hacks this mess into working
(insofar as imlib compiles for both of us with this flag set). Thus,
problem solved, but not eliminated, it would seem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] struggling with dri

2005-10-11 Thread Fernando Meira
On 10/10/05, Jason Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fernando Meira ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled: I think I have radeon driver built-in the kernel.. does that mean that it is loaded before agpgart? agpgart and intel_agp are both modules...
 should I them recompile my kernel and leave radeon as module?yes.
Ok, with this modules being loaded at boot:
agpgart
intel_agp
radeon

I still don't have rendering! 
So, should I try to compile all built-in the kernel? Or should I go for x11-drm?

Cheers,
Fernando


[gentoo-user] nfs shutdown deps

2005-10-11 Thread Jan Hübner

Hi people,

this one is concerning the order of scripts during shutdown. Yesterday I 
forgot to umount some NFS shares on my notebook and shut down the 
computer. My ethernet devices eth0 and eth1 became stopped and _after_ 
that it tried to stop the nfsmount script. This is somewhat senseless, 
it only works with network being up and running. Well to be exact it 
worked this way aswell, after waiting for ~30 seconds four times (once 
for each share).


Does anyone know a way to change this behaviour or should I file a bug?

Sorry for my engrish ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo in a tight placeWHACK-A-MOLE

2005-10-11 Thread maxim wexler
You fix it here it breaks again over there :( Turns
out the drive is OK(at least the file system), it was
another drive on the same cable. But now grub wont
work at all.  Interesting, at first grub could boot xp
and gentoo, then xp failed and now gentoo wont boot --
no matter how I set grub up, from the command-line,
boot floppy, as a grub-install. It doesn't matter the
partition either; there's either a crash or the thing
boots to an error message such as end_request: I/O
error, dev fd0, sector 0. Needless to say the floppy
drive is fine. Or, The file /boot/grub/stage1 not
read correctly

 Um, maybe I missed something Maxim.  Do you have a
 cdrom?  If so, just boot 
 from a knoppix cd.  Comes with tons of repair tools
 already on it.  Then you 
 wouldn't have to struggle with trying to get that
 small drive into a bootable 
 state...
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] struggling with dri

2005-10-11 Thread Fernando Meira
On 10/11/05, Fernando Meira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/10/05, Jason Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Fernando Meira ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled: I think I have radeon driver built-in the kernel.. does that mean that it is
 loaded before agpgart? agpgart and intel_agp are both modules...
 should I them recompile my kernel and leave radeon as module?yes.
Ok, with this modules being loaded at boot:
agpgart
intel_agp
radeon

I still don't have rendering! 
So, should I try to compile all built-in the kernel? Or should I go for x11-drm?

Cheers,
Fernando

Just to add a new question:

- I'll need to connect a projector to my laptop. What do I need to do so?
Does it connect as the second monitor? If so, then would I need to reboot to make it work?

Thanks,
Fernando


Re: [gentoo-user] struggling with dri

2005-10-11 Thread Holly Bostick
Fernando Meira schreef:
 On 10/10/05, Jason Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Fernando Meira ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 
 I think I have radeon driver built-in the kernel.. does that mean
  that
 
 it is
 
 loaded before agpgart? agpgart and intel_agp are both modules...
 
 should I them recompile my kernel and leave radeon as module?
 
 yes.
 
 
 
 Ok, with this modules being loaded at boot: agpgart intel_agp radeon
 
 I still don't have rendering! So, should I try to compile all 
 built-in the kernel? Or should I go for x11-drm?
 
 Cheers, Fernando
 

I'm not sure I understand what you're doing here.

As far as I know (and I must stress that I'm not that familiar with
either the radeon driver or how it works with the Mobility chips,
because I have a 9800SE that must use the fglrx drivers to get OpenGL/3D
hardware acceleration/direct rendering), the radeon driver is a 2D
driver that is used in combination with the kernel's DRM and the Mesa
libraries to get direct rendering/3D hardware acceleration enabled.

So my first question would be:

What is the status of DRM in your kernel?

Device Drivers=Character Devices=Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86
4.1.0 and higher DRI support)

Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI support
  x CONFIG_DRM:

  x

  x Kernel-level support for the Direct Rendering Infrastructure (DRI)
  x introduced in XFree86 4.0. If you say Y here, you need to select
  x the module that's right for your graphics card from the list below.
  x These modules provide support for synchronization, security, and
  x DMA transfers. Please see http://dri.sourceforge.net/ for more
  x details.  You should also select and configure AGP

  x (/dev/agpgart) support.

  x

  x Symbol: DRM [=m]
  x Prompt: Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI support)
  x   Defined at drivers/char/drm/Kconfig:7
  x   Depends on: AGP || AGP=n
  x   Location:
  x - Device Drivers
  x   - Character devices
  x


Now, I know that for the fglrx drivers to run, this kernel option must
be *unset*, but it's clear that you can't even have the 'radeon' module
if DRM is not set. However, in looking at these settings in my own
kernel (and assuming that the Mobility chipset in your lappy can use
these drivers to provide 3D hardware acceleration), I noticed that:

- when I had /dev/agpgart set as a module, I could only build DRM as a
module (the kernel gave me a message to this effect);

- setting /dev/agpgart to statically compiled (Y) allowed me to build
DRM statically compiled (but I could still build Radeon as a module, and
intel_agp as a module under agpgart).

Again, I'm no big expert on the radeon kernel drivers, but I find it
hard to believe that in this situation it can be a good thing for
/dev/agpgart and /DRM themselves to be compiled as loadable modules
rather than statically (although the sub-functions, intel_agp and
radeon, most likely *should* be compiled as modules).

So I would suggest that your kernel config should look like this:

* /dev/agpgart (AGP Support)
ALI chipset support
ATI chipset support
AMD Irongate, 761, and 762 chipset support
AMD Opteron/Athlon64 on-CPU GART support
M   Intel 440LX/BX/GX, I8xx and E7x05 chipset support
NVIDIA nForce/nForce2 chipset support
SiS chipset support
Serverworks LE/HE chipset support
VIA chipset support
Transmeta Efficeon support
* Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI support)
3dfx Banshee/Voodoo3+ (NEW)
ATI Rage 128 (NEW)
M   ATI Radeon
Intel I810 (NEW)
Intel 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G
Matrox g200/g400 (NEW)
SiS video cards (NEW)

For what it's worth. You could then take agpgart out of
/etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 (since it's no longer a loadable
module, you can't load it that way anyway. but then intel_agp should
hopefully load correctly).

You would perhaps also want to check your build of xorg:

emerge -pv xorg-x11

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r4  -3dfx +3dnow +bitmap-fonts
-cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc +font-server -insecure-drivers -ipv6
-minimal +mmx +nls -nocxx +opengl -pam -sdk +sse -static +truetype-fonts
+type1-fonts (-uclibc) +xprint +xv 0 kB

As you see, opengl support is *optional*, and if not compiled,
presumably the Mesa libraries that allow X to render 3D for those
drivers that don't do so natively would also not be available.


Hope this helps,
Holly
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[gentoo-user] About a proxy-like idea... (was Shell through the web)

2005-10-11 Thread Steve [Gentoo]

Dave Nebinger wrote:

On Tuesday 11 October 2005 07:37 am, Steve [Gentoo] wrote:
  

I'm also vaguely hopeful that there may
be a more efficient lower-level solution which wouldn't require the
overhead of a process to 'pass-on' the tcp data... maybe integrated with
ipchains or pf or similar?

If you choose to roll your own solution, that would be difficult.  Youve 
already accepted the connection, so the firewall is now configured to allow 
the packets back and forth only when related to your connection.
  
I realise that the idea would necessarily be substantially more 
challenging than just writing a proxy... but I'm sure it is possible.  
I'm guessing I'd need to interact at the IP packet level, recognise the 
start of a TCP stream (buffering packets as necessary) then re-play them 
to the right port and force the packet filter to re-direct that TCP 
stream.  It would not be worth my time to try and make this work if it 
isn't already available for me to just compile and use.
Technically the proxy development is not difficult, but for newbies it can be 
frustrating working out the nuances of processing asynchronous data arriving 
on one pipe let alone two.
  
I'm confident that I could write a proxy that would do this... as you 
suggest - it's not rocket science.  Conversely, I'm lazy enough to just 
use one that's already written if one exists... which, I'm guessing, is 
likely as I doubt I'm the first person to tackle this.


Steve

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[gentoo-user] Update installed packages, but not install new ones

2005-10-11 Thread Nikodemus Karlsson
Hi,
almost every time when I do a complete packages upgrade using emerge -u world, 
portage flags for new packages which is going to be installed. Is there an 
option to get rid of this behavior, so I only get the updated packages with 
one command? In the meantime, the upgrade flags for install of a package 
uw-mailutils-2004g, which conflicts with pine. I don't want 
uw-mailutils-2004g, but I want pine. Ok, it's easy to upgrade manually all 
the packages except uw-mailutils-2004g, but then I lose the convinience with 
the world file, even in the future. Anyone who knows how to solve this 
problem?

TIA
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[gentoo-user] [OT] free HTTPS not-anonymous proxy

2005-10-11 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Hi,

Will anybody be so kind to tell me about free HTTPS _not-anonymous_ proxy?
It seems like some routing problem exists on the way from my IP to target host
(it is https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org, IP is determined like 82.113.61.162)
I have asked alsa users - the host works.

Andrew Gaydenko
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo in a tight place

2005-10-11 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Monday 10 October 2005 18:32, maxim wexler wrote:
 Hello everybody,

 That min-install I was talking about failed due to
 lack of disk space. I'm trying to install on a 3.2G
 drive. Partitions are :
 / of 1.47G  ext2
 /home 1.1G ext2
 500M swap
 100M /boot reiserfs


why reiserfs on boot?
why 100mb boot?

10mb boot/ext2 are way enough.
And since /boot is never mounted except when installing a new kernel, 
journaling is just overkill.
Or 500mb swap  - you can reduce it to 0 and use a swapfile.
swapfiles are not necessary slower than swappartitions, with 2.6 kernels.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Update installed packages, but not install new ones

2005-10-11 Thread Douglas James Dunn
Can you paste a emerge -uDpvt world please?

On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 19:19 +0200, Nikodemus Karlsson wrote:
 Hi,
 almost every time when I do a complete packages upgrade using emerge -u 
 world, 
 portage flags for new packages which is going to be installed. Is there an 
 option to get rid of this behavior, so I only get the updated packages with 
 one command? In the meantime, the upgrade flags for install of a package 
 uw-mailutils-2004g, which conflicts with pine. I don't want 
 uw-mailutils-2004g, but I want pine. Ok, it's easy to upgrade manually all 
 the packages except uw-mailutils-2004g, but then I lose the convinience with 
 the world file, even in the future. Anyone who knows how to solve this 
 problem?
 
 TIA
 Nikodemus
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Re: [gentoo-user] Update installed packages, but not install new ones

2005-10-11 Thread Nikodemus Karlsson
tisdag 11 oktober 2005 19.35 skrev Douglas James Dunn:
 Can you paste a emerge -uDpvt world please?

Here we go...
jupiter ~ # emerge -uDpvt world

These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] mail-client/pine-4.64-r1 (is blocking 
net-mail/uw-mailutils-2004g)
[ebuild UD] x11-misc/xosview-1.8.2 [1.8.2-r1] 0 kB
[nomerge  ] sys-apps/mkinitrd-3.5.7-r2  (-selinux)
[ebuild U ]  dev-libs/dietlibc-0.28 [0.25] -debug 547 kB
[nomerge  ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.8.10
[nomerge  ]   media-libs/gst-plugins-0.8.10  +alsa -debug -esd +oss
[nomerge  ]gnome-base/gconf-2.10.1-r1  -debug -doc -static
[ebuild U ] gnome-base/orbit-2.12.3 [2.12.2] -debug -doc +ssl -static 
662 kB
[ebuild U ]  dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.6 [0.8.5] -debug -static 342 kB
[nomerge  ]  kde-base/kdeartwork-3.4.1  +arts -debug -kdeenablefinal 
+opengl -xinerama -xscreensaver
[nomerge  ]   kde-base/kdebase-3.4.1-r1  +arts +cups -debug -hal -ieee1394 
-java -kdeenablefinal -ldap -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse +opengl +pam -samba 
+ssl -xinerama
[ebuild U ]sys-apps/eject-2.0.13-r2 [2.0.13-r1] +nls 0 kB
[nomerge  ] mail-filter/qmail-scanner-1.25-r1  -spamassassin
[ebuild U ]  net-mail/tnef-1.3.3 [1.3.2] 1,601 kB
[nomerge  ] net-print/foomatic-3.0.2
[ebuild U ]  net-print/foomatic-db-20050606 [20041220] +cups -ppds 525 kB
[ebuild UD] app-crypt/pinentry-0.7.2 [0.7.2-r1] -gtk -gtk2 +ncurses +qt 0 
kB
[nomerge  ] app-office/lyx-1.3.5-r2  -cjk +cups -debug +nls +qt
[nomerge  ]  app-text/sgmltools-lite-3.0.3-r7  +tetex
[ebuild U ]   app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.1-r3 [3.1-r2] 0 kB
[ebuild U ]   app-text/docbook-dsssl-stylesheets-1.79 [1.77-r2] 271 kB
[nomerge  ]  dev-tex/chktex-1.6.2  -debug
[nomerge  ]   dev-tex/latex2html-2002.2.1_pre20041025  +gif +png
[ebuild U ]media-libs/netpbm-10.28 [10.20] +jpeg +png -svga +tiff 
+zlib 2,270 kB
[nomerge  ] kde-base/kde-i18n-3.4.1  +arts -debug -kdeenablefinal 
-xinerama
[nomerge  ]  kde-base/kdelibs-3.4.1-r1  +alsa +arts +cups -debug -doc 
-jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal -kerberos -openexr +spell +ssl +tiff -xinerama 
-zeroconf
[nomerge  ]   kde-base/arts-3.4.1-r2  +alsa +arts -artswrappersuid -debug 
-esd -hardened -jack -kdeenablefinal +mp3 +vorbis -xinerama
[ebuild U ]kde-base/kde-env-3-r4 [3-r3] 0 kB
[nomerge  ] dev-perl/DBD-mysql-2.9003
[ebuild U ]  x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r8 [3.3.4-r3] +cups -debug -doc -examples 
-firebird +gif -immqt -immqt-bc -ipv6* +mysql -nas -odbc +opengl -postgres 
-sqlite -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild U ] mail-client/pine-4.64-r1 [4.63-r3] -debug -kerberos 
-largeterminal -ldap +pam -passfile +ssl 3,202 kB
[ebuild  N]  net-mail/uw-mailutils-2004g  2,194 kB
[nomerge  ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.07  +nls
[nomerge  ]  sys-apps/man-1.6-r1  +nls
[nomerge  ]   sys-apps/groff-1.19.1-r2  +X
[ebuild U ]sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r2 [4.8-r1] -build +nls -static 0 kB
[nomerge  ] x11-terms/xterm-204  -Xaw3d -toolbar +truetype -unicode
[nomerge  ]  sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.6
[nomerge  ]   app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r3
[nomerge  ]sys-apps/file-4.13  -build +python
[nomerge  ]x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.3-r3
[nomerge  ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r4  -3dfx -3dnow +bitmap-fonts 
-cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server -insecure-drivers -ipv6 -minimal 
-mmx +nls -nocxx +opengl +pam -sdk -sse -static +truetype-fonts +type1-fonts 
(-uclibc) -xprint +xv
[nomerge  ]  sys-apps/util-linux-2.12r  +crypt +nls -old-crypt 
+pam +perl (-selinux) -static
[nomerge  ]   sys-apps/pam-login-3.17  -livecd +nls (-selinux)
[nomerge  ]sys-apps/shadow-4.0.7-r4  +nls -nousuid +pam 
(-selinux) -skey
[nomerge  ] sys-apps/portage-2.0.51.22-r3  -build (-selinux)
[nomerge  ]  dev-python/python-fchksum-1.7.1
[ebuild  NS   ]   dev-lang/python-2.4.1-r1  +X +berkdb -bootstrap 
-build -doc +gdbm -ipv6 +ncurses -nocxx +readline +ssl -tcltk -ucs2 7,663 kB
[nomerge  ] app-admin/perl-cleaner-1.01
[nomerge  ]sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r6  +emacs
[nomerge  ] sys-devel/m4-1.4.3  +nls
[nomerge  ]  sys-devel/gettext-0.14.4  -doc +emacs +nls
[nomerge  ]   sys-libs/glibc-2.3.5-r2  -build -erandom 
-glibc-compat20 -glibc-omitfp -hardened -linuxthreads-tls (-multilib) +nls 
-nptl -nptlonly -pic -profile (-selinux) -userlocales
[nomerge  ]sys-devel/gcc-3.3.6  (-altivec) -bootstrap 
-boundschecking -build +fortran -gcj -gtk -hardened -ip28 (-multilib) 
-multislot (-n32) (-n64) +nls -nocxx -nopie -nossp -objc -static -vanilla
[nomerge  ] sys-devel/binutils-2.15.92.0.2-r10  -multislot 
-multitarget +nls -test
[ebuild U ]  sys-devel/binutils-config-1.8-r5 [1.8-r2] 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 19,280 kB
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[gentoo-user] Updating portage cache - slow, slower, slowest ever

2005-10-11 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   It seems that over the last few months that the 'Updating portage
cache' part of an emerge sync has gotten very, very low on my
machines. Has anything changed that should have caused this? Did I
possibly miss some update step somewhere to make this run faster.

   I'd say that this step is now taking at least 10 minutes - maybe 15
minutes. Good reason not to update too often!

   I do think the speed at which emerge gets to this point is a bit
faster, and certainly I'd expect it to slow down a bit as the library
grows ever larger. I see no change at all in emerging a package - only
the sync step.

   Thanks in advance for any info.

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Update installed packages, but not install new ones

2005-10-11 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:52:47 +0200 Nikodemus Karlsson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 tisdag 11 oktober 2005 19.35 skrev Douglas James Dunn:
  Can you paste a emerge -uDpvt world please?
 
 Here we go...
 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 [blocks B ] mail-client/pine-4.64-r1 (is blocking 
 [ebuild U ] mail-client/pine-4.64-r1 [4.63-r3] -debug -kerberos 
 -largeterminal -ldap +pam -passfile +ssl 3,202 kB
 [ebuild  N]  net-mail/uw-mailutils-2004g  2,194 kB

Nothing wrong with that. The new version of pine depends on
uw-mailutils-2004g. The first line tells you that pine versions _prior_
to 4.64-r1 do not work with uw-mailutils-2004g. That means you have to
unmerge pine and then emerge it again. It will install the new pine
and pull uw-mailutils as a dependency. You would think, portage could
have been a bit smarter and do that itself, but it is dangerous. What
if you need pine while emerge is still running and it unmerges it while
you are using it?

 almost every time when I do a complete packages upgrade using emerge
 -u world, portage flags for new packages which is going to be
 installed. Is there an option to get rid of this behavior, so I only
 get the updated packages with one command?

Why would you want to do that? If the package, that you want to upgrade,
depends on something you don't have installed it will obviously have to
emerge it first. There is only one situation where it is not the case.
The new package may be a dependency based on a (new) USE-flag. If it is
so you can disable that USE-flag in package.keywords and not install
the new package.


Cheers,
Renat

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Re: [gentoo-user] imlib error

2005-10-11 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Jorge Almeida wrote:
 On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, Holly Bostick wrote:
  You could just emerge either or both, but that would add them
  to your world file, which is not necessarily the best choice
  (but maybe this is not important to you).

 Yes, I don't mind having it in the world file.

Better not do that.  The world file should (mostly) just contain the 
packages that you actually directly use, not their dependencies.  
Having dependencies in there can later cause perplexing problems, 
if for example imlib or giflib were replaced by something else.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo in a tight place

2005-10-11 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 10/11/05, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 10 October 2005 18:32, maxim wexler wrote:
  Hello everybody,
 
  That min-install I was talking about failed due to
  lack of disk space. I'm trying to install on a 3.2G
  drive. Partitions are :
  / of 1.47G  ext2
  /home 1.1G ext2
  500M swap
  100M /boot reiserfs
 

 why reiserfs on boot?
 why 100mb boot?

 10mb boot/ext2 are way enough.

Except when you have more than 2 or 3 kernels for testing and need
space for those, the default (Gentoo Handbook) value is 38MB... But
you're right, reiserfs is not a good fs for /boot.

 And since /boot is never mounted except when installing a new kernel,
 journaling is just overkill.
 Or 500mb swap  - you can reduce it to 0 and use a swapfile.
 swapfiles are not necessary slower than swappartitions, with 2.6 kernels.

Too much discussion over this (file or partition use for swap), so, I
won't say anything.

To the question, resize is not a very secure operation, heh, I don't
like it because I had issues like having to erase and rebuild my
whole partition table (thus loosing all info, thank God had all
ebuilds and configs backed up to another drive), or having to swim
over lost+found to find files and move them to the right location.

I would use links, MHO.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Update installed packages, but not install new ones

2005-10-11 Thread Holly Bostick
Nikodemus Karlsson schreef:
 Hi, almost every time when I do a complete packages upgrade using 
 emerge -u world, portage flags for new packages which is going to be
  installed. Is there an option to get rid of this behavior, so I only
  get the updated packages with one command?

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. Sometimes updating a package
requires new dependent packages to be installed (which new packages the
previous version of the package in your world file did not require, so
they're not installed already). In fact, this is the only reason I can
think of that an emerge -u world would install new packages, other than
changed USE flags, which is more or less the same thing.

The most likely to succeed way to eliminate most of the extra dependent
packages is to do an emerge -uav(Dt) world, which will enable you to see
what USE flags are enabled for the packages requested to emerge, which
often will reveal what's going on without you having to do anything more
(for example, if you're updating gnome to 2.12 (as I'm doing today), and
in the course of the prospective emerge you notice (as I did) that 1)
epiphany is being updated (normal), and 2) mozilla is being emerged (not
desired), an emerge -pv epiphany shows that

emerge -pv epiphany

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] www-client/mozilla-1.7.12-r2  +crypt -debug +gnome -ipv6
+java +ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop +moznocompose +moznoirc +moznomail
-moznoxft +mozsvg -postgres +ssl +truetype -xinerama +xprint 468 kB
[ebuild U ] www-client/epiphany-1.8.2 [1.6.4] +dbus -debug -doc
-firefox +python 3,275 kB

looking at the USE flags for epiphany, I see that there is a 'firefox'
USE flag which is not enabled. As you might imagine, I do use Firefox
(since as you see, I don't have Mozilla installed), and being clever, I
guess that I can replace Epiphany's dependency on 'some Mozilla browser'
by enabling the 'firefox' USE flag, and that is the case:


 emerge -pv epiphany

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild U ] www-client/epiphany-1.8.2 [1.6.4] +dbus -debug -doc
+firefox* +python 3,275 kB

The star next to the firefox USE flag indicates that it is a flag whose
status has changed since I last emerged this application.

And as you see, Mozilla will not be installed.

For more troublesome to debug dependencies, an emerge -uavt(D) world
will show what packages are requiring the additional packages to be
emerged so that you can see their USE flags (which may be requiring the
additional packages), or at least which packages may have new hard
dependencies that require the additonal packages (which status you can
look up using equery or other tools whose names I momentarily forget, or
online at www.gentoo-portage.com ).

 In the meantime, the upgrade flags for install of a package 
 uw-mailutils-2004g, which conflicts with pine. I don't want 
 uw-mailutils-2004g, but I want pine. Ok, it's easy to upgrade 
 manually all the packages except uw-mailutils-2004g, but then I lose
  the convinience with the world file, even in the future. Anyone who
  knows how to solve this problem?

This looks fairly insoluble without giving something up:

Runtime Dependencies
uw-mailutils-2004g

! mail-client/pine - 4.64-r1
! net-mail/uw-imap - 2004g-r1
virtual/libc

Pine cannot be installed with uw-mailutils. OK, but why are we
installing uw-mailutils in the first place?

Programs That Depend On uw-mailutils

net-mail/uw-imap

Do you need uw-imap? If not, then get rid of it, and unmerge
uw-mailutils, and pine will upgrade by itself.

Oh, I see, the upgraded pine needs it.

And uw-imap needs uw-mailutils, but not of the -r1 revision that
conflicts with the upgrade to uw-imap, and pine.

So then mask the versions of uw-mailutils above 2004g, and keep an eye
on portage, as this looks like a bug which would need to be resolved,
and I would imagine that it would be in short order.

# echo =net-mail/uw-mailutils-2004g-r1 /etc/portage/package.mask

This command assumes that the directory /etc/portage exists already (but
the file package.mask need not exist; as long as the folder exists, the
file will be created and this line will be added to it; if the file does
exist, the mask command will be added to it).

Hope this helps,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Update installed packages, but not install new ones

2005-10-11 Thread Nikodemus Karlsson
Thank you! 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating portage cache - slow, slower, slowest ever

2005-10-11 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Mark Knecht ha scritto:
 Hi,
It seems that over the last few months that the 'Updating portage
 cache' part of an emerge sync has gotten very, very low on my
 machines. Has anything changed that should have caused this? Did I
 possibly miss some update step somewhere to make this run faster.
 
I'd say that this step is now taking at least 10 minutes - maybe 15
 minutes. Good reason not to update too often!
 
I do think the speed at which emerge gets to this point is a bit
 faster, and certainly I'd expect it to slow down a bit as the library
 grows ever larger. I see no change at all in emerging a package - only
 the sync step.
 
Thanks in advance for any info.
 
 Cheers,
 Mark
 
maybe this can interest you
Cache rewrite backport
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.portage.devel/1105
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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating portage cache - slow, slower, slowest ever

2005-10-11 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 20:07, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi,
It seems that over the last few months that the 'Updating portage
 cache' part of an emerge sync has gotten very, very low on my
 machines. Has anything changed that should have caused this? Did I
 possibly miss some update step somewhere to make this run faster.

I'd say that this step is now taking at least 10 minutes - maybe 15
 minutes. Good reason not to update too often!

I do think the speed at which emerge gets to this point is a bit
 faster, and certainly I'd expect it to slow down a bit as the library
 grows ever larger. I see no change at all in emerging a package - only
 the sync step.

Thanks in advance for any info.

 Cheers,
 Mark

you may find this link very helpfull:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb
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Re: [gentoo-user] nfs shutdown deps

2005-10-11 Thread Jan Hübner
Funny, this time it worked. Any reasons for it working sometimes as 
expectedt but not always? Is stopping scripts done randomly?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating portage cache - slow, slower, slowest ever

2005-10-11 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi,
It seems that over the last few months that the 'Updating
 portage cache' part of an emerge sync has gotten very, very low
 on my machines. Has anything changed that should have caused
 this?

To me it seemed the metadata part got much bigger a few weeks ago, 
the updating time for the portage cache has almost tripled, and the 
slowness is somewhere in the middle, around the 48-52% stage.

Benno
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Re: [gentoo-user] Update installed packages, but not install new ones

2005-10-11 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:10:40 +0200 Renat Golubchyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:52:47 +0200 Nikodemus Karlsson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  almost every time when I do a complete packages upgrade using emerge
  -u world, portage flags for new packages which is going to be
  installed. Is there an option to get rid of this behavior, so I only
  get the updated packages with one command?
 
 Why would you want to do that? If the package, that you want to
 upgrade, depends on something you don't have installed it will
 obviously have to emerge it first. There is only one situation where
 it is not the case. The new package may be a dependency based on a
 (new) USE-flag. If it is so you can disable that USE-flag in
 package.keywords and not install the new package.
  

s/keywords/use


Cheers,
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[gentoo-user] OT: help on rpm fake/virtual spec file

2005-10-11 Thread Sascha Lucas

Hi,

I want an fake/vitual rpm spec to satisfy dependencies of some commercial 
software with an ugly install script.


My spec looks like this:

Summary: Use to generate virtual package to fake /bin/sh.
Vendor:  bla
Name:fake-bin-sh
Version: 0.0.0
Release: r1
Group:   foo
License: GPL2
buildarch: noarch

%description
Create virtual package specifying /bin/sh as a virtual package.

provides: /bin/sh

%prep
%build
%install
%clean
%files

But this does not what I want. Can some help me to fix this?

$ rpm -q --provides --specfile fake-rpm.spec
(none)
# rpmbuild -bb fake-rpm.spec
$ rpm -qp --provides /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/noarch/fake-bin-sh-0.0.0-r1.noarch.rpm
fake-bin-sh = 0.0.0-r1

Thanks,

Sascha.
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[gentoo-user] java nightmare

2005-10-11 Thread Jorge Almeida
java hates me.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ revdep-rebuild -p

Checking reverse dependencies...
Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by any package update,
will be recompiled.

Collecting system binaries and libraries... done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.1_files)

  Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH... done.
(/root/.revdep-rebuild.2_ldpath)

Checking dynamic linking consistency...
  broken /opt/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.02/jre/lib/i386/libjsoundalsa.so
  (requires libasound.so.2)
   done.
 (/root/.revdep-rebuild.3_rebuild)

 Assigning files to ebuilds... done.
   (/root/.revdep-rebuild.4_ebuilds)

   Evaluating package order... done.
 (/root/.revdep-rebuild.5_order)

 All prepared. Starting rebuild...
 emerge --oneshot --nodeps -p
 =dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.02

 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild   R   ] dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.02
 Now you can remove -p (or --pretend) from arguments and
 re-run revdep-rebuild.

I already reemerged dev-java/blackdown-jdk, which is the only java
installed, and didn't forget to env-update and source /etc/profile.
Running revdep-rebuild is useless, as a second revdep-rebuild -p will
still give the same error message.

And why should something named
/opt/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.02/jre/lib/i386/libjsoundalsa.so exist? I don't
have the alsa USE flag set, for the excelent reason that this is an
office workstation with no sound equipment whatsoever.
Could it be that somehow the ebuild is ignoring this point?
I unset browserplugin before emerging, just in case this was pulling
sound support. Still, mozilla was set; the emerge says that the former
USE variable is the latter renamed...

What to do? Can I safely ignore the revdep-rebuild messages?
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo in a tight placeWHACK-A-MOLE

2005-10-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 12:32 pm, maxim wexler wrote:
 But now grub wont work at all.
 there's either a crash or the thing
 boots to an error message such as end_request: I/O
 error, dev fd0, sector 0. Needless to say the floppy
 drive is fine. Or, The file /boot/grub/stage1 not
 read correctly

Maxim I had a similar thing happen when grub went thru an upgrade on the box 
that I missed.  Next boot resulted in grub complaining.  Re-installing grub 
to the MBR fixed it (using the version of grub that was installed on the box, 
not the grub on the knoppix cd).

Have you tried that?
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo in a tight place

2005-10-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 02:36 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 I have three or four kernels in /boot and have 16mb... way enough

I've got a 100MB /boot partition, and with 12 kernels I'm still only using 
50%...

cornholio ~ # df -h /boot
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1  99M   46M   49M  49% /boot

cornholio ~ # ls /boot
System.map-2.6.11-gentoo-r4   System.map-2.6.13.2   
config-2.6.12.3-firewall  vmlinuz-2.6.11.7
System.map-2.6.11.11  boot@ config-2.6.12.4 
  
vmlinuz-2.6.12
System.map-2.6.11.6   config-2.6.11 config-2.6.13   
  
vmlinuz-2.6.12.2
System.map-2.6.11.6-bridgeconfig-2.6.11-gentoo-r4   config-2.6.13.2 
  
vmlinuz-2.6.12.2-firewall
System.map-2.6.11.7   config-2.6.11.11  grub/   
  
vmlinuz-2.6.12.3-firewall
System.map-2.6.12 config-2.6.11.6   
initrd-2.6.11-gentoo-r4   vmlinuz-2.6.12.4-firewall
System.map-2.6.12.2   config-2.6.11.6-bridge
kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r4   vmlinuz-2.6.13
System.map-2.6.12.2-firewall  config-2.6.11.7   lost+found/ 
  
vmlinuz-2.6.13.2
System.map-2.6.12.3-firewall  config-2.6.12 vmlinuz-2.6.11.11
System.map-2.6.12.4   config-2.6.12.2   vmlinuz-2.6.11.6
System.map-2.6.13 config-2.6.12.2-firewall  
vmlinuz-2.6.11.6-bridge
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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating portage cache - slow, slower, slowest ever

2005-10-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On 10/11/05, Bastian Balthazar Bux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht ha scritto:
  Hi,
 It seems that over the last few months that the 'Updating portage
  cache' part of an emerge sync has gotten very, very low on my
  machines. Has anything changed that should have caused this? Did I
  possibly miss some update step somewhere to make this run faster.
 
 I'd say that this step is now taking at least 10 minutes - maybe 15
  minutes. Good reason not to update too often!
 
 I do think the speed at which emerge gets to this point is a bit
  faster, and certainly I'd expect it to slow down a bit as the library
  grows ever larger. I see no change at all in emerging a package - only
  the sync step.
 
 Thanks in advance for any info.
 
  Cheers,
  Mark
 
 maybe this can interest you
 Cache rewrite backport
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.portage.devel/1105
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Interesting, but very new as I see it. Scary.

thanks,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating portage cache - slow, slower, slowest ever

2005-10-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On 10/11/05, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 11 October 2005 20:07, Mark Knecht wrote:
  Hi,
 It seems that over the last few months that the 'Updating portage
  cache' part of an emerge sync has gotten very, very low on my
  machines. Has anything changed that should have caused this? Did I
  possibly miss some update step somewhere to make this run faster.
 
 I'd say that this step is now taking at least 10 minutes - maybe 15
  minutes. Good reason not to update too often!
 
 I do think the speed at which emerge gets to this point is a bit
  faster, and certainly I'd expect it to slow down a bit as the library
  grows ever larger. I see no change at all in emerging a package - only
  the sync step.
 
 Thanks in advance for any info.
 
  Cheers,
  Mark

 you may find this link very helpfull:

 http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb

OohVERY scary. Not where I want to go for a problem like this.
I'll wait for the developers to make that sort of thing part of the
baseline setup. I couldn't administer it if it broke.

Thanks for the info though.

cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating portage cache - slow, slower, slowest ever

2005-10-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
  you may find this link very helpfull:
 
  http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb

 OohVERY scary. Not where I want to go for a problem like this.
 I'll wait for the developers to make that sort of thing part of the
 baseline setup. I couldn't administer it if it broke.

Trust it, Mark, it works great!  I've been using CDB for like 9 months now.  
I've had only one problem with it (the recent python 2.3 to 2.4 upgrade, I 
missed the fact that I was to run python-updater, so the CDB stuff was not 
automagically upgraded on it's own).

It's very quick, EIX supports it, and it works like a charm.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo in a tight place

2005-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:19:43 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:

 To the question, resize is not a very secure operation, heh, I don't
 like it because I had issues like having to erase and rebuild my
 whole partition table

Resizing a filesystem doesn't affect the partition table, you change that
separately. Enlarging a partition, which is what you need to do, is
intrinsically safe, because all you are doing is making the extra space
on the partition available to the filesystem, no data has to be moved.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating portage cache - slow, slower, slowest ever

2005-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:20:56 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

  http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb
 
 OohVERY scary. Not where I want to go for a problem like this.
 I'll wait for the developers to make that sort of thing part of the
 baseline setup. I couldn't administer it if it broke.

I found it very straightforward. What's the worst that can happen? Your
portage tree gets messed up, which can be fixed with emerge --sync.


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[gentoo-user] How to wipe windows for gentoo w/possibility of restoration...

2005-10-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
I've got a laptop.  It has a working win xp system on it (plus all apps, etc).

I want to wipe windows off of it and put gentoo on it.

But, after gentoo is up and running, I'd like to create a partition to restore 
the windows partition to.

Laptop has a CD burner for storing the data.

But I'm kinda at a loss on how to proceed.  Obviously it is more complicated 
than just doing a fresh install because I'd lose all of the applications, 
etc. (including the installed drivers, registry, etc.).

Anyone out there know if such a thing is possible?

Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] java nightmare

2005-10-11 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 22:01 +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote:
 java hates me.
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ revdep-rebuild -p
   
   Checking reverse dependencies...
   Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by any package update,
   will be recompiled.
   
   Collecting system binaries and libraries... done.
 (/root/.revdep-rebuild.1_files)
   
 Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH... done.
   (/root/.revdep-rebuild.2_ldpath)
   
   Checking dynamic linking consistency...
 broken /opt/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.02/jre/lib/i386/libjsoundalsa.so
 (requires libasound.so.2)
  done.
(/root/.revdep-rebuild.3_rebuild)
   
Assigning files to ebuilds... done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.4_ebuilds)
   
  Evaluating package order... done.
(/root/.revdep-rebuild.5_order)
   
All prepared. Starting rebuild...
emerge --oneshot --nodeps -p
=dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.02
   
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
   
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.02
Now you can remove -p (or --pretend) from arguments and
re-run revdep-rebuild.
   
 I already reemerged dev-java/blackdown-jdk, which is the only java
 installed, and didn't forget to env-update and source /etc/profile.
 Running revdep-rebuild is useless, as a second revdep-rebuild -p will
 still give the same error message.
 
 And why should something named
 /opt/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.02/jre/lib/i386/libjsoundalsa.so exist? I don't
 have the alsa USE flag set, for the excelent reason that this is an
 office workstation with no sound equipment whatsoever.
 Could it be that somehow the ebuild is ignoring this point?
 I unset browserplugin before emerging, just in case this was pulling
 sound support. Still, mozilla was set; the emerge says that the former
 USE variable is the latter renamed...
 
 What to do? Can I safely ignore the revdep-rebuild messages?
I think you can safely ignore that (unless you're running java
applications that use sound/alsa). the java packages are binary, that
means that you don't compile it according to your use flags, you install
the whole package, so some libraries (like libalsasound.so) will
complain if you don't have alsa support. I'm having this problem with
opera and libXm but I just ignore it.

btw, is there anyway to tell revdep-rebuild to ignore a package? it's
really not comfortable to run revdep-rebuild -p and then manually
re-install the packages that complain (because I don't want it to
re-install opera every time).

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Re: [gentoo-user] possible defective memory

2005-10-11 Thread bruce harding
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 03:16:52 +0200
Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 09 October 2005 03:08, bruce harding wrote:
  I've got 2 sticks of Kingston HyperX 3200 DDR Registered  ECC.  Is
  it possible that this if I ran memtest86+ for 2 days straight and
  found no error that the memory could still be defective?
 
  I ask because I can't get a complete compile of glibc.  I have to
  restart the process at lease 3 times before the compile will
  complete.
 
 
  Let me know what you think.
  --
 
 yes it is completly possible.
 
 But it is also possible, that your PSU is not powerfull enough. A big
 compile needs a lot of processing power and stresses the ram, so a
 lot of current is needed - and some PSUs aren't able to cope with
 such a load -exspecially if they are cheap and/or a little bit older.
 Try another PSU, do you still have problems, RMA the ram.
 
 Memtest86(+) is known not to find all errors.

Actually, I'm on my third PSU I now own a dual rail, 650watt
SilverStone.

And I don't get any errors.   The compile just appears to stop, but if
I do top the thread for the compile is running at 90%.  I got off the
phone with Kingston and they are going to replace the ram.  I hope that
solves my problem.

==
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Re: [gentoo-user] struggling with dri

2005-10-11 Thread Fernando Meira
On 10/11/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fernando Meira schreef: On 10/10/05, Jason Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fernando Meira ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
) scribbled: I think I have radeon driver built-in the kernel.. does that meanthat it is loaded before agpgart? agpgart and intel_agp are both modules...
 should I them recompile my kernel and leave radeon as module? yes. Ok, with this modules being loaded at boot: agpgart intel_agp radeon
 I still don't have rendering! So, should I try to compile all built-in the kernel? Or should I go for x11-drm? Cheers, FernandoI'm not sure I understand what you're doing here.
As far as I know (and I must stress that I'm not that familiar witheither the radeon driver or how it works with the Mobility chips,because I have a 9800SE that must use the fglrx drivers to get OpenGL/3D
hardware acceleration/direct rendering), the radeon driver is a 2Ddriver that is used in combination with the kernel's DRM and the Mesalibraries to get direct rendering/3D hardware acceleration enabled.So my first question would be:
What is the status of DRM in your kernel?Device Drivers=Character Devices=Direct Rendering Manager (XFree864.1.0 and higher DRI support)
It was DRM [=m].
All (agpgart, inter_agp, DRM, radeon) were [M].
 Now, I know that for the fglrx drivers to run, this kernel option mustbe *unset*, but it's clear that you can't even have the 'radeon' module
if DRM is not set. However, in looking at these settings in my ownkernel (and assuming that the Mobility chipset in your lappy can usethese drivers to provide 3D hardware acceleration), I noticed that:
- when I had /dev/agpgart set as a module, I could only build DRM as amodule (the kernel gave me a message to this effect);- setting /dev/agpgart to statically compiled (Y) allowed me to buildDRM statically compiled (but I could still build Radeon as a module, and
intel_agp as a module under agpgart).Again, I'm no big expert on the radeon kernel drivers, but I find ithard to believe that in this situation it can be a good thing for/dev/agpgart and /DRM themselves to be compiled as loadable modules
rather than statically (although the sub-functions, intel_agp andradeon, most likely *should* be compiled as modules).
So I would suggest that your kernel config should look like this:
* /dev/agpgart (AGP Support)  ALI chipset support  ATI chipset support  AMD Irongate, 761, and 762 chipset support  AMD Opteron/Athlon64 on-CPU GART support
M Intel 440LX/BX/GX, I8xx and E7x05 chipset support  NVIDIA nForce/nForce2 chipset support  SiS chipset support  Serverworks LE/HE chipset support  VIA chipset support
  Transmeta Efficeon support* Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI support)  3dfx Banshee/Voodoo3+ (NEW)  ATI Rage 128 (NEW)M ATI Radeon
  Intel I810 (NEW)  Intel 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G  Matrox g200/g400 (NEW)  SiS video cards (NEW)
Ok, so I do as you say, change agpgart and DRM to be statically and leave inter_agp and radeon as modules.
Exactly as you mention. 
For what it's worth. You could then take agpgart out of/etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-
2.6 (since it's no longer a loadablemodule, you can't load it that way anyway. but then intel_agp shouldhopefully load correctly).
Yes... done! 
You would perhaps also want to check your build of xorg:emerge -pv xorg-x11

Yes, I have opengl USE flag active and xorg-x1 compiled with it. 

Hope this helps,Holly
Well, I really appreciate it, but it's still not working. All the same, no errors and no rendering.
Xorg.0.log does not report any error, dmesg reports:

 agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at :00:00.0.
agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 1x mode
agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 1x mode

and lsmod:
radeon 60800 1 
intel_agp 15260 1 

So.. don't know what can be wrong... 

To add: now I lost the booting report!! After disabling DRM, FM support
(vesa-fb + ati + ddc/I2C) for trying fglrx driver.. I can't get back
the booting screen.. just a black screen from Grub to login manager..
The funny part is that I re-set all these kernel option.. well, all
less one, support for FB splash (inside /Device Drivers/Graphics
Support/Support for framebuffer devices/), which I can't find anymore..
weird.. very weird...

any clue? to any of the problems?

Thanks,
Fernando



Re: [gentoo-user] How to wipe windows for gentoo w/possibility of restoration...

2005-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 18:06:41 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote:

 I've got a laptop.  It has a working win xp system on it (plus all
 apps, etc).
 
 I want to wipe windows off of it and put gentoo on it.
 
 But, after gentoo is up and running, I'd like to create a partition to
 restore the windows partition to.

Why remove it? Wouldn't it be easier and better to resize your Windows
partition and install Gentoo in the remaining space?


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RE: [gentoo-user] possible defective memory

2005-10-11 Thread Bob Young
FWIW, I had the same problem, (compile would hang, no error, no message,
nothing), while installing a dual AMD64 system last week. I got past it by
using kernel switches to force single CPU (nosmp), and disabling the apic
(noapic), during the install. Don't know for sure which switch resolved it,
or if they were both needed. May not help you, but thought I'd mention it
just in case.

Regards,
Bob Young


-Original Message-
From: bruce harding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:13 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] possible defective memory

On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 03:16:52 +0200
Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 09 October 2005 03:08, bruce harding wrote:
  I've got 2 sticks of Kingston HyperX 3200 DDR Registered  ECC.  Is
  it possible that this if I ran memtest86+ for 2 days straight and
  found no error that the memory could still be defective?
 
  I ask because I can't get a complete compile of glibc.  I have to
  restart the process at lease 3 times before the compile will
  complete.
 
 
  Let me know what you think.
  --

 yes it is completly possible.

 But it is also possible, that your PSU is not powerfull enough. A big
 compile needs a lot of processing power and stresses the ram, so a
 lot of current is needed - and some PSUs aren't able to cope with
 such a load -exspecially if they are cheap and/or a little bit older.
 Try another PSU, do you still have problems, RMA the ram.

 Memtest86(+) is known not to find all errors.

Actually, I'm on my third PSU I now own a dual rail, 650watt
SilverStone.

And I don't get any errors.   The compile just appears to stop, but if
I do top the thread for the compile is running at 90%.  I got off the
phone with Kingston and they are going to replace the ram.  I hope that
solves my problem.

==
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo in a tight place

2005-10-11 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 23:13, Dave Nebinger wrote:
 On Tuesday 11 October 2005 02:36 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
  I have three or four kernels in /boot and have 16mb... way enough

 I've got a 100MB /boot partition, and with 12 kernels I'm still only using
 50%...

and the OP said, that he is doing rescue work, not testing kernels.
So 100mb for /boot sounds pretty pointless.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating portage cache - slow, slower, slowest ever

2005-10-11 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 23:20, Mark Knecht wrote:

 
  http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb

 OohVERY scary. Not where I want to go for a problem like this.
 I'll wait for the developers to make that sort of thing part of the
 baseline setup. I couldn't administer it if it broke.


I have done the python 2.3-2.4 update without any breakage. 

In fact, there were NO problems at all - and the syncs have become amazingly 
fast.
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo in a tight place

2005-10-11 Thread maxim wexler
Thanks for all your suggestions. I look forward to
implementing them just as soon as my 120G gets back in
service(if it does). BTW anybody know how long Maxtor
warranties their cheap ATA drives? The 120 in question
I bought from tigerdirect.ca about 6mos ago.

--- Hemmann, Volker Armin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 11 October 2005 23:13, Dave Nebinger
 wrote:
  On Tuesday 11 October 2005 02:36 pm, Hemmann,
 Volker Armin wrote:
   I have three or four kernels in /boot and have
 16mb... way enough
 
  I've got a 100MB /boot partition, and with 12
 kernels I'm still only using
  50%...
 
 and the OP said, that he is doing rescue work, not
 testing kernels.
 So 100mb for /boot sounds pretty pointless.
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Re: [gentoo-user] before I upgrade the kernel

2005-10-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:18 pm, Mark wrote:
 Is there a way I can apply all of the options I set last time I ran make
 menuconfig to the new kernel I just downloaded, or do I have to go through
 all the settings again?

1. cd /usr/src
2. tar xjf /path/to/downloaded/kernel.tar.bz2
3. cd linux-new-kernel
4. make mrproper
5. cp ../path.to.old.kernel/.config ./.config
6. make oldconfig

7. make  make modules_install  cp .config /boot/config-new-version  cp 
System.map /boot/System.map-new-version  cp 
arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-new-version  /bin/rm -f /usr/src/linux 
 ln -s /usr/src/linux-new-kernel /usr/src/linux  vi /boot/grub/menu.lst

A little terse, but yes.  make oldconfig pulls in your existing .config file.  
It will prompt for new offerings not part of your old .config, usually the 
suggested default at the prompt is the way to go.

When managing your own kernel, don't forget to a) install the modules (plus 
any other third party modules (i.e. nvidia driver modules) or your new kernel 
will give you grief, and b) recreate your /usr/src/linux symlink to point at 
the new kernel.

Those steps above are the ones that I typically take (yes, folks will say to 
use make install, but I'm still from the old school.

The only part of the rote script above that I'm unsure about is the System.map 
stuff.  I know it gets generated when the kernel is built, I know most 
systems have them in /boot, but for the life of me I never a) found out what 
it was for, b) found out if it had to be in /boot and if it had to be a 
special name (i.e. /boot/System.map explicitly), and c) why I even bother in 
the first place.

Dave
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Re: [gentoo-user] before I upgrade the kernel

2005-10-11 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 04:35, Dave Nebinger wrote:
 On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:18 pm, Mark wrote:
  Is there a way I can apply all of the options I set last time I ran make
  menuconfig to the new kernel I just downloaded, or do I have to go
  through all the settings again?

 1. cd /usr/src
 2. tar xjf /path/to/downloaded/kernel.tar.bz2
 3. cd linux-new-kernel
 4. make mrproper
 5. cp ../path.to.old.kernel/.config ./.config
 6. make oldconfig

 7. make  make modules_install  cp .config /boot/config-new-version 
 cp System.map /boot/System.map-new-version  cp
 arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-new-version  /bin/rm -f
 /usr/src/linux  ln -s /usr/src/linux-new-kernel /usr/src/linux  vi
 /boot/grub/menu.lst


or even better:
make all modules install install

which will cp bzImage to /boot/bmlinuz-yourversion, makes an symlink from 
vmlinuz to vmlinuz-yourversion and a vmlinuz.old symlink to your previous 
used kernel.
So all you need to have in grub.conf is a vmlinuz and a vmlinuz.old entry to 
choose between your latest and the previous kernel.
Hand copiing and editing grub.conf/menu.lst is just not needed.
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Re: [gentoo-user] before I upgrade the kernel

2005-10-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:39 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 Hand copiing and editing grub.conf/menu.lst is just not needed.

Come on, Volker, don't begrudge me a little fun ;-)

I like seeing my 12 kernels listed all nice and neat in the list.  Maybe one 
day I'll have a need to revert back to that 2.6.11 kernel.  Probably not, but 
at least I know it's 2.6.11 and not 'current kernel' vs 'previous kernel'.

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Re: [gentoo-user] before I upgrade the kernel

2005-10-11 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 04:50, Dave Nebinger wrote:
 On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:39 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
  Hand copiing and editing grub.conf/menu.lst is just not needed.

 Come on, Volker, don't begrudge me a little fun ;-)

 I like seeing my 12 kernels listed all nice and neat in the list.  Maybe
 one day I'll have a need to revert back to that 2.6.11 kernel.  Probably
 not, but at least I know it's 2.6.11 and not 'current kernel' vs 'previous
 kernel'.

at that point hitting 'e' and editing the command prompt should be sufficient 
and funny enough ;)
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[gentoo-user] Re: Updating portage cache - slow, slower, slowest ever

2005-10-11 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 01:18, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 On Tuesday 11 October 2005 23:20, Mark Knecht wrote:
   http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb
 
  OohVERY scary. Not where I want to go for a problem like this.
  I'll wait for the developers to make that sort of thing part of the
  baseline setup. I couldn't administer it if it broke.

 I have done the python 2.3-2.4 update without any breakage.

 In fact, there were NO problems at all - and the syncs have become
 amazingly fast.

Yesterday, after python update (dev-lang/python-2.4.1-r1), emerge 
refused to work, I had to comment both lines in /etc/portage/modules 
and reemerge dev-python/python-cdb.

It wasn't a stopper,  but it worth mention.

Ciao
Francesco
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating portage cache - slow, slower, slowest ever

2005-10-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 12:58 am, Francesco Talamona wrote:
 Yesterday, after python update (dev-lang/python-2.4.1-r1), emerge
 refused to work, I had to comment both lines in /etc/portage/modules
 and reemerge dev-python/python-cdb.

 It wasn't a stopper,  but it worth mention.

That was the part I mentioned earlier.  I think if you caught the note to run 
python-updater after the python upgrade it would have covered this.

Basically what happens is that, without running python-updater, you've got a 
number of python packages installed in /usr/lib/python-2.3/site-packages (or 
something like that).

After the python 2.4 upgrade, those packages are no longer available, as 2.4 
is looking for them in /usr/lib/python-2.4/site-packages (or whatever).

Running python-updater is supposed to get those old guys moved from 2.3 to 2.4 
so everything works.

Unfortunately if that message about running python-updater floats by in the 
middle of updating a bunch of packages it is easy to miss, and before you 
know it you think your system is majorly screwed.

I posted a message to gentoo-dev asking for an enhancement to portage that 
would collect the messages generated in the pkg_postinstall phase and 
re-report them after all packages have completed.  Fortunately it is already 
an enhancement that is on the list, but it's not clear when it will be 
released.  In the meantime I'm going to check out ENOTICE  
http://dev.gentoo.org/~eldad/ to see if it will work as a short-term 
solution.
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