Re: [gentoo-user-pl] avahi w gnome
Kacper Goc wrote: Raczej wolał bym po prostu nie używać tego pakietu. Nie rozumiem do czego ma być mi potrzebny skoro korzystam z GNOME? Kacper 2007/8/13, Robert Holeksa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kacper Goc wrote: Witam, mam mały problem. Postanowiłem zaktualizować system. W tym celu wykonałem komendy: emerge --sync emerge --update --deep --newuse world Po jakimś czasie kompilacja doszła do pakietu kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi-0.1.2 i wyłożyła się z błędem: Emerging (3 of 3) kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi-0.1.2 to / * kdnssd-avahi_0.1.2.orig.tar.gz MD5 ;-) ... [ ok ] * kdnssd-avahi_0.1.2.orig.tar.gz RMD160 ;-) ... [ ok ] * kdnssd-avahi_0.1.2.orig.tar.gz SHA1 ;-) ...[ ok ] * kdnssd-avahi_0.1.2.orig.tar.gz SHA256 ;-) ... [ ok ] * kdnssd-avahi_0.1.2.orig.tar.gz size ;-) ...[ ok ] * kde-admindir-3.5.5.tar.bz2 MD5 ;-) ... [ ok ] * kde-admindir-3.5.5.tar.bz2 RMD160 ;-) ... [ ok ] * kde-admindir-3.5.5.tar.bz2 SHA1 ;-) ...[ ok ] * kde-admindir-3.5.5.tar.bz2 SHA256 ;-) ... [ ok ] * kde-admindir-3.5.5.tar.bz2 size ;-) ...[ ok ] * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking auxfile checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking miscfile checksums ;-) ...[ ok ] * checking kdnssd-avahi_0.1.2.orig.tar.gz ;-) ...[ ok ] * checking kde-admindir-3.5.5.tar.bz2 ;-) ...[ ok ] * To compile kdnssd-avahi package you need Avahi with DBus and Qt 3.x support. * but net-dns/avahi is not built with qt3 and/or dbus USE flags enabled. !!! ERROR: kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi-0.1.2 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1648: Called dyn_setup ebuild.sh, line 714: Called qa_call 'pkg_setup' ebuild.sh, line 44: Called pkg_setup kdnssd-avahi-0.1.2.ebuild, line 26: Called die !!! Please, rebuild net-dns/avahi with the qt3 and dbus USE flags. !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. !!! A complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi-0.1.2/temp/build.log'. Wszystko by było ok gdyby nie to, że nie mam na swoim kompie KDE i nie mam potrzeby instalacji kdnssd-avahi, który jest częścią tego środowiska. Moje flagu use to: X aac acl acpi alsa apache2 apm asf avahi bash-completion berkdb bitmap-fonts bluetooth branding bzip2 cairo calendar cddb cdinstall cdparanoia cdr cli cracklib crparanoia crypt cups dbus dri dvd dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode esd fam firefox flac fortran gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk hal iconv ieee1394 ipod isdnlog jabber java javascript jpeg mad midi mikmod mime mmx mp3 mpeg mudflap musepack ncurses nls nocd nptl nptlonly ogg opengl openmp pam pcmcia pcre pdf perl png ppds pppd python quicktime rdesktop readline reflection samba sdl session spell spl sse sse2 ssl svg tcpd threads tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode usb vcd videos vorbis wifi win32codecs x86 xml xorg xscreensaver xv xvid zlib Jak widać nie ma wśród nich flag takich jak kde czy qt ponieważ korzystam z GNOME. Czy jset to błąd, który powinienem zgłosić na Bugzilli czy też popełniam jakąś pomyłkę?? Pozdrawiam, Kacper Goc Witam Please, rebuild net-dns/avahi with the qt3 and dbus USE flags. -- dorzuc flagi qt3 i dbus. Jesli nie chcesz ich uaktywaniac dla calego systemu dopisz je do pliku /etc/portage/package.use dla tego pakietu. Pozdrawiam Robert -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list W takim razie mozesz dopisac go do /etc/make.profile/package.provided system bedzie myslal ze juz jest zainstalowany i go ominie. Ewentualnie jak dojdzie do tego pakietu i sie wylozy wpisz: emerge --resume --skipfirst powroci do kompilacji opuszczajac ostatni pakiet. Mozna to bylo tez ustawic jakos ladniej przez przypisanie wartosci do jakiejs zmiennej zeby nie emergowal podanego w niej pakietu ale nie pamietam jaka to byla zmina.. jak ktos pamieta z checia sobie przypomne :) pozdrawiam Robert -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user-pl] XFS i Kernel panic (...) unable to mount root fs
Witam serdecznie, Instaluję Gentoo na laptopie CA M160S. Wycinek z /etc/fstab: /dev/sda1/boot ext2 noauto,noatime 1 2 /dev/sda5/ xfs noatime 0 1 Wycinki z /usr/src/linux/.config: CONFIG_XFS_FS=y CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y Wycinki z /boot/grub/menu.lst: title=Gentoo Linux root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/linux-2.6.22 root=/dev/sda5 initrd brak. Po restarcie i boocie z HDD grub grzecznie wybiera jądro, ładuje je i po jakimś czasie (o ile się nie mylę po wykryciu huba USB) staje z następującym komunikatem: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown_block(0,0) Google nie okazało się pomocne - Results 1 - 9 of 9 for xfs Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown_block(0,0). (0.34 seconds) Będę bardzo wdzięczny za wsparcie. Pozdrawiam Jan Stępien -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user-pl] XFS i Kernel panic (...) unable to mount root fs
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown_block(0,0) zwykle przyczyny takiego komunikatu mogą być dwie - nie wkompilowana w jądro na stałe (nie jako moduł) obsługa systemu plików na którym masz / albo nie wkompilowana też na stałe obsługa chipsetu. Poszukaj obu tych opcji w konfiguracji jądra i przekompiluj, powinno działać. Stilgar -- Opole - Miasto Bez Granic. http://www.opole.pl - tu znajdziesz nowe miejsca, nowe mozliwosci, nowe inspiracje... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CXXABI error after gcc upgrade
Hi, Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi all, another gcc upgrade issue :) I've read and followed the gcc upgrade gentoo howto, and also a few bugs on b.g.o, but I'm getting stuck... this all went well: # gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 # env-update source /etc/profile # fix_libtool_files.sh 3.4.6 # emerge --oneshot -av libtool then I did an emerge -eav system, also went well. Then I started upgrading, but came into this error: /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/libstdc++.so.6: version `CXXABI_1.3.1' not found so I ran `revdep-rebuild --library=libstdc++.so.6` but that got stuck on eix: src/eix: /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/libstdc++.so.6: version `CXXABI_1.3.1' not found (required by src/eix) libstdc++so.6 belongs to gcc 3.4.x, so I recompiled gcc 4.1.2 just in case, and then re-ran the entire above sequence, but it gets stuck again at the same place. libstdc++so.6 _still_ belongs to gcc 3.4.x. Is this a problem? [...] Unmerging the old gcc should take care of this. However, if might want to keep a 3.x gcc (e.g. app-emulation/qemu needs it to build), have a look at your /etc/ld.so.conf. Lately, I noticed on a Gentoo x86 machine with both gcc versions 3.4.x and 4.1.x installed that this file was a bit messed up, i.e. the old gcc libs got preferred over /lib /usr/lib etc. (though that shouldn't happen on an amd64 multilib system). My own little workaround: echo 'LDPATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib' /etc/env.d/04basic-ldpath env-update I kinda remember wanting to search for existing bugs / opening a new report, but it seems I've forgotten about that. Regards, Andi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Must I re-emerge gcc entirely?
kou yu wrote: I am a newbie to gentoo. Today I emerge my gcc to 4.2.0 When it finished, I found message that the libstdc++ manpage is not maked due to lack of doxygen. My question is whether I must re-emerge gcc entirely after emerging doxygen to make the manpage of libstdc++. Is there a alternative way to avoid compile whole gcc, because it takes a long time... No, you should be able to just do an 'emerge sys-libs/libstdc++-v3' -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] Help with Perl Datetime + Epoch
Been struggling with a new script I'm porting over from bash because perl's DBI is much more elegant than my previous usage of sqsh. I'm having trouble converting from a datetime into a unix epoch timestamp. under bash, this is done. date = -MM-DD HH:MM:SS epoch_date = date -d $date +%s $date Mon Aug 13 14:39:48 MYT 2007 $date -d 2007-08-13 14:39:48 +%s 1186987188 Under perl, I have no idea how this can be achieved. Neither localtime, timelocal or AFAICT, DateTime can achieve this easily. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Must I re-emerge gcc entirely?
Am Montag, 13. August 2007 schrieb ext kou yu: I am a newbie to gentoo. Today I emerge my gcc to 4.2.0 When it finished, I found message that the libstdc++ manpage is not maked due to lack of doxygen. My question is whether I must re-emerge gcc entirely after emerging doxygen to make the manpage of libstdc++. Is there a alternative way to avoid compile whole gcc, because it takes a long time... Yes, use ebuild. ebuild /path/to/gcc.ebuild compile ebuild /path/to/gcc.ebuild install ebuild /path/to/gcc.ebuild qmerge Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Help with Perl Datetime + Epoch
Ow Mun Heng wrote: Been struggling with a new script I'm porting over from bash because perl's DBI is much more elegant than my previous usage of sqsh. I'm having trouble converting from a datetime into a unix epoch timestamp. under bash, this is done. date = -MM-DD HH:MM:SS epoch_date = date -d $date +%s $date Mon Aug 13 14:39:48 MYT 2007 $date -d 2007-08-13 14:39:48 +%s 1186987188 Under perl, I have no idea how this can be achieved. Neither localtime, timelocal or AFAICT, DateTime can achieve this easily. The DateManip module may have what you need. From its description: This is a set of routines designed to make any common date/time manipulation easy to do...From the very beginning, the main focus of Date::Manip has been to be able to do ANY desired date/time operation easily See http://search.cpan.org/~sbeck/DateManip-5.44/Manip.pod or do an 'emerge -av DateManip' -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Help with Perl Datetime + Epoch
On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 02:43:04PM +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: Been struggling with a new script I'm porting over from bash because perl's DBI is much more elegant than my previous usage of sqsh. I'm having trouble converting from a datetime into a unix epoch timestamp. under bash, this is done. date = -MM-DD HH:MM:SS epoch_date = date -d $date +%s $date Mon Aug 13 14:39:48 MYT 2007 $date -d 2007-08-13 14:39:48 +%s 1186987188 Under perl, I have no idea how this can be achieved. Neither localtime, timelocal or AFAICT, DateTime can achieve this easily. Maybe I'm confusing what you're looking for, but a look at 'perldoc DateTime' shows that the perl DateTime module has a 'epoch' function: $epoch_time = $dt-epoch; # may return undef if the datetime is outside the range that is # representable by your OS's epoch system. So if you create your datetime object with the new() function, you can simply output the epoch time over. As another OOT suggestion, check out Class::DBI as something even more elegant than DBI. I've been using it for the last year or so and LOVE it's simplicity and OO-ness compared to DBI. -- Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://arcterex.net Beware of computer programmers that carry screwdrivers. -- Unknown -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Help with Perl Datetime + Epoch
On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 00:25 -0700, Alan wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 02:43:04PM +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: Been struggling with a new script I'm porting over from bash because perl's DBI is much more elegant than my previous usage of sqsh. I'm having trouble converting from a datetime into a unix epoch timestamp. under bash, this is done. date = -MM-DD HH:MM:SS epoch_date = date -d $date +%s $date Mon Aug 13 14:39:48 MYT 2007 $date -d 2007-08-13 14:39:48 +%s 1186987188 Under perl, I have no idea how this can be achieved. Neither localtime, timelocal or AFAICT, DateTime can achieve this easily. Maybe I'm confusing what you're looking for, but a look at 'perldoc DateTime' shows that the perl DateTime module has a 'epoch' function: $epoch_time = $dt-epoch; # may return undef if the datetime is outside the range that is # representable by your OS's epoch system. Yepp.. It's fine to get the current time's epoch via DateTime. What I want is actually to convert from a datetime into an epoch.. eg: User supplied Datetime = 2007-08-13 14:39:48 I want that Datetime converted into an Epoch Format. As another OOT suggestion, check out Class::DBI as something even more elegant than DBI. I've been using it for the last year or so and LOVE it's simplicity and OO-ness compared to DBI. Will loook into it, _after_ I settled all these date/time issues which is driving me a bit nutty. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: charset iso/utf
070813 Philip Webb wrote: I now have (via a line in .bashrc ): LANG= LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 ... snip ... LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 There's no difference in the headers. It occurs to me that I'm running Mutt via 'konsole -e mutt', which is restarted automatically by KDE . I did restart X thereby KDE Konsole+Mutt , but just possibly that won't use .bashrc : any thoughts ? Yes, I know, I should have started there (grimace): I checked the Gentoo dox re 'locale' was told to login again before restarting X , which I did with the following result : MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Moreover, the e-acute now appears correctly in Most , which I use as pager with Mutt ! So progress, but comments still welcome. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ACPI problem on Compaq
On Monday, 13. August 2007, Tim wrote: Have you tried just using 'init 0' rather than 'shutdown -h now'? (...) I'd say check in your BIOS to see what power options there are - some BIOSes can change the action on receiving a power button signal. Thanks for your suggestions. Init 0 did not seem to make a change, then I looked at all the BIOS options and turned off some settings that were on, or reverse - not always understanding what they were to do. Now it seems to work correctly. Perhaps it was a setting that said the power button should wake the computer? Thierry -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
Mark Knecht wrote: revdep-rebuild wanted to emerge again. I get quite tired, and frankly do not understand, why gcc itself should be on this list so often, Maybe because of this: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728#c29 Regrads mks -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT :video cameras and gentoo
Hi James i have a sony digital camera that takes movies, and it just shows up as a usb drive. Well, I went ahaed and purchased a sony DCR SR42. It does not show up with usbview, ivman or in the dmesg if I reboot and leave it attached via usb. I have a Sony DCR-SR32 that I use with my Gentoo Thinkpad. This is a great little camera that works well with Linux (i.e. shows up as a USB mass storage device). Your model is in the same range so I would imaging the following would work for you as well. To get the video off the camera, I do the following: 1. Plug the docking station into the wall socket and turn the wall power on. Plug the USB lead into the laptop. 2. Attach the camera to the docking station and switch the camera on. 3. Open up the LCD display. Select the computer hard disk button. 4. At that point /var/log/messages shows something like: Aug 13 10:07:59 obufki usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 Aug 13 10:07:59 obufki usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Aug 13 10:07:59 obufki scsi4 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Aug 13 10:07:59 obufki usb-storage: device found at 4 Aug 13 10:07:59 obufki usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki Vendor: Sony Model: Camcorder Rev: 1.00 Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki SCSI device sdb: 58605120 512-byte hdwr sectors (30006 MB) Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sdb: Write Protect is on Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sdb: Mode Sense: 00 32 00 80 Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sdb: assuming drive cache: write through Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki SCSI device sdb: 58605120 512-byte hdwr sectors (30006 MB) Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sdb: Write Protect is on Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sdb: Mode Sense: 00 32 00 80 Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sdb: assuming drive cache: write through Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sdb: sdb1 Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdb Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0 Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki usb-storage: device scan complete Aug 13 10:08:05 obufki scsi.agent[7784]: disk at /devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:0 5. The LCD shows: Connecting... Do not unplug the USB cable. Do not turn off the power. There is also an END button that you press after you have finished transfering the video. 6. Mount the device under Linux: e.g. mount /mnt/camcorder My /etc/fstab entry looks like: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/camcorder autonoauto,ro,user 0 0 7. cp /mnt/camcorder/mp_root/101pnv01/* ~/video 8. After video has finished transferring, umount /mnt/camcorder 9. Press the 'END' button on the camera LCD display and follow any instructions. The only gotcha for me was, the first time I tried this I hadn't connected the camera to the docking station properly. You really need to give it a good shove to make sure the connection is good. Did you activate anything special in your kernel? [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src/linux $ grep -i USB .config |grep -v 'is not set' CONFIG_BT_HCIUSB=y CONFIG_BT_HCIUSB_SCO=y CONFIG_BT_HCIBFUSB=y # Supported USB Adapters # USB devices CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO=m # USB support CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_OHCI=y CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_EHCI=y CONFIG_USB=y # Miscellaneous USB options CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y # USB Host Controller Drivers CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=y # USB Device Class drivers CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=y # NOTE: USB_STORAGE enables SCSI, and 'SCSI disk support' # may also be needed; see USB_STORAGE Help for more information CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=y # USB Input Devices CONFIG_USB_HID=y CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y # USB Imaging devices # USB Network Adapters # USB port drivers # USB Serial Converter support CONFIG_USB_SERIAL=m CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_GENERIC=y CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_FTDI_SIO=m CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_VISOR=m CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_MCT_U232=m # USB Miscellaneous drivers # USB DSL modem support # USB Gadget Support i would assume that the video recorders would work the same way. maybe you can take a laptop to a store that sells them and check to see if it works that way or find someone that has one and borrow it. if you dont want sony recorders im sure you can find another brand with the same interface. Well, If I cannot get it to at least mount the 30Gig HD like most usb devices, I might just return it for another model... ideas on things to try to get this DCR SR42 to work? Try the above. This is a great little camera and I am really glad I bought it. Good luck Garry -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CXXABI error after gcc upgrade
On Monday 13 August 2007 07:02, Andreas Niederl wrote: Hi, Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi all, another gcc upgrade issue :) I've read and followed the gcc upgrade gentoo howto, and also a few bugs on b.g.o, but I'm getting stuck... this all went well: # gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 # env-update source /etc/profile # fix_libtool_files.sh 3.4.6 # emerge --oneshot -av libtool then I did an emerge -eav system, also went well. Then I started upgrading, but came into this error: /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/libstdc++.so.6: version `CXXABI_1.3.1' not found so I ran `revdep-rebuild --library=libstdc++.so.6` but that got stuck on eix: src/eix: /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/libstdc++.so.6: version `CXXABI_1.3.1' not found (required by src/eix) libstdc++so.6 belongs to gcc 3.4.x, so I recompiled gcc 4.1.2 just in case, and then re-ran the entire above sequence, but it gets stuck again at the same place. libstdc++so.6 _still_ belongs to gcc 3.4.x. Is this a problem? [...] Unmerging the old gcc should take care of this. That's what I thought, but then noticed this: == # gcc-config -l [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardened [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopie [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopiessp [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednossp [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 * # emerge -C -p -v gcc These are the packages that would be unmerged: !!! 'sys-devel/gcc' is part of your system profile. !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system. sys-devel/gcc selected: 4.1.2 protected: none omitted: none 'Selected' packages are slated for removal. 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed. == So gcc-3.4.5 is no longer in my system, but gcc-config tells me that it is available. Don't know what to make of this. BTW I do not suffer (yet) from the same problem like the OP. -- Regards, Mick pgpA6qMHO6jFI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ACPI problem on Compaq
On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 09:41 +0200, Thierry de Coulon wrote: On Monday, 13. August 2007, Tim wrote: Have you tried just using 'init 0' rather than 'shutdown -h now'? (...) I'd say check in your BIOS to see what power options there are - some BIOSes can change the action on receiving a power button signal. Thanks for your suggestions. Init 0 did not seem to make a change, then I looked at all the BIOS options and turned off some settings that were on, or reverse - not always understanding what they were to do. Now it seems to work correctly. Perhaps it was a setting that said the power button should wake the computer? Thierry This often happens when the PC is set to power back up after an AC outage -- Regards, Tim Allingham Ph: 0420 605 370 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datafirst-it.com.au signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] vim encoding
Hi All, I am trying to find out how I can see what encoding my vim is using. Also would be good to know how to set it to a different encoding, if I need to. Some other questions that may help me understand how encoding works: - My /etc/vim/vimrc says scriptencoding utf-8, does this mean that this is the vim encoding and any new file will be saved with this encoding? - If I open a file which was saved with ISO-8859-1, edit it and save it, will it keep the original encoding? - The vimrc says: Make sure we have a sane fallback for encoding detection set fileencodings+=default I guess this is system default. How can I find what is the default setting? Sorry if these are simple questions but never got my head around encodings and charactersets. -- Regards, Mick pgpehDbXZmuee.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] vim encoding
Mick schrieb: Hi All, I am trying to find out how I can see what encoding my vim is using. Also would be good to know how to set it to a different encoding, if I need to. :set encoding should show you the encoding resently used. also you can set another encoding with, e.a.: :set encoding=utf-8 please see also :help encoding Steffen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] logrotate
Hi, I have my logrotate configured but it does not work propertly. Let me explain: mail # ls -lsah total 20M 4,0K drw--- 2 root root 4,0K ago 13 03:10 . 4,0K drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4,0K ago 13 03:10 .. 15M -rw--- 1 root root 15M ago 13 12:38 mail.log 2,4M -rw--- 1 root root 2,4M ago 13 03:10 mail.log.1.gz 336K -rw--- 1 root root 331K ago 12 03:10 mail.log.2.gz 2,4M -rw--- 1 root root 2,4M ago 12 00:02 mail.log.3.gz 364K -rw--- 1 root root 360K ago 11 03:10 mail.log.4.gz Seems it worked for days 11 12 and 13, but then, it keeps just one file and increases its size till I delete it, or I run logrotate by hand: afrodita mail # /usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf afrodita mail # ls -lsah total 5,9M 4,0K drw--- 2 root root 4,0K ago 13 12:40 . 4,0K drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4,0K ago 13 12:40 .. 4,0K -rw--- 1 root root 2,0K ago 13 12:40 mail.log 936K -rw--- 1 root root 932K ago 13 12:40 mail.log.1.gz 2,4M -rw--- 1 root root 2,4M ago 13 03:10 mail.log.2.gz 336K -rw--- 1 root root 331K ago 12 03:10 mail.log.3.gz 2,4M -rw--- 1 root root 2,4M ago 12 00:02 mail.log.4.gz I have logrotate in crontab: # crontab -l [...] 2 0 * * * /usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf and this is its conf: In logrotate.conf: include /etc/logrotate.d and there # cat /etc/logrotate.d/mail # Apache2 logrotate snipet for Gentoo Linux # Contributes by Chuck Short # /var/log/mail/*log { missingok notifempty sharedscripts size 5M postrotate /etc/init.d/postfix reload /dev/null 21 || true endscript } Things get worst in apache logs: 182M -rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 182M ago 13 12:37 blog_log_access_common # cat /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 # Apache2 logrotate snipet for Gentoo Linux # Contributes by Chuck Short # /var/log/apache2/*log { daily missingok notifempty sharedscripts postrotate /etc/init.d/apache2 reload /dev/null 21 || true endscript } 182 MB daily? I'm not a google server! TIA, -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] nvidia-driver crashes X
Hi! I'm experiencing some strange problems on one of my machines. Everytime I open the KDE Control Center and on random occasions in Firefox (sometimes after doing nothing for several minutes, just having it open in the background and switching back to it or when starting certain java scripts) the X-Server does no longer react. I can move the cursor but that's it. All I can do is open a remote shell. Top shows me that X is at 97-99% cpu usage and the only way to kill it is with kill -kill I've noticed the following in dmesg: NVRM: Xid: 13, 02005600 0056 0c28 00230291 0080 agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode NVRM: Xid: 13, 02005600 0056 0c28 00230291 0080 agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode That's the situation after two crashes within a few minutes (I tried to open the Control Center). I'm using an NVidia Geforce2 MX with nvidia-drivers-1.0.7185. I'll attach the whole dmesg and lshw output as well as my xorg.conf. Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp By the way: Should I compress attachments? KMail offers automatic zip-compression. Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout0 Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer EndSection Section Files EndSection Section Module Load freetype Load extmod Load glx Load dri Load dbe Load record Load xtrap Load type1 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol Auto Option Device /dev/input/mice EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel logiitc Option XkbLayout de EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 ### Comment all HorizSync and VertRefresh values to use DDC: HorizSync31.5 - 48.5 VertRefresh 50.0 - 70.0 Modeline 1280x768 80.1 1280 1344 1480 1680 768 770 786 795 EndSection Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver nvidia Option NVAgp 3 Option RenderAccel true Option AllowGLXWithComposite true Option TripleBuffer true Option DPMS TRUE Option NoLogo true VideoRam32768 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes1280x768 EndSubSection EndSection Section DRI Group0 Mode 0666 EndSection 0 ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x00] enabled) Processor #0 (Bootup-CPU) ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec0] gsi_base[0]) IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 2, address 0xfec0, GSI 0-23 ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl dfl) ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 low level) ACPI: IRQ0 used by override. ACPI: IRQ2 used by override. ACPI: IRQ9 used by override. Setting APIC routing to flat Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information Nosave address range: 0009f000 - 000a Nosave address range: 000a - 000cc000 Nosave address range: 000cc000 - 000d6000 Nosave address range: 000d6000 - 000f Nosave address range: 000f - 0010 Allocating PCI resources starting at 7000 (gap: 6000:9ec0) Built 1 zonelists. Total pages: 386736 Kernel command line: Initializing CPU#0 PID hash table entries: 4096 (order: 12, 32768 bytes) time.c: Detected 2000.104 MHz processor. Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Re: [gentoo-user] OT :video cameras and gentoo
I don't believe that's the case for video cameras, which usually use firewire for video transfer. I have a customer who bought a DV camcorder with a USB socket it transpired that this socket was only capable of transferring photos from the camera (which had both a video and a static photo mode). Video had to be transferred by firewire. Although videos appear in the mass storage device of my mum's digicam in proper video recorders firewire is MUCH more common. If I wanted to record video I would expect to be buying a firewire-capable video camera; although I might well take Iain Buchanan's advice of 13th August 2007 00:00:23 BST to supplant my previous expectations, I wouldn't expect USB is a serious camcorder. Stroller. On 12 Aug 2007, at 14:46, Paul wrote: i have a sony digital camera that takes movies, and it just shows up as a usb drive. i would assume that the video recorders would work the same way. maybe you can take a laptop to a store that sells them and check to see if it works that way or find someone that has one and borrow it. if you dont want sony recorders im sure you can find another brand with the same interface. On 8/10/07, Don Jerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/10/07, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to all, I'm in need of a portable video camera(or rig), such as the sony SR82, but one that is gentoo friendly for video transfer. Hopefully I can find a video camera that transfers directly to a gentoo sytem via usb 2.0? After my experience with a Sony Viao Laptop, I'm not really keen on anything else from sony (now that I think about it). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vim encoding
Mick wrote: - My /etc/vim/vimrc says scriptencoding utf-8, does this mean that this is the vim encoding and any new file will be saved with this encoding? No, scriptencoding is just the encoding of /etc/vim/vimrc. File encoding is handled by 'fileencodings' further down. - If I open a file which was saved with ISO-8859-1, edit it and save it, will it keep the original encoding? Yes. Vim will never change the encoding of a file. If you typed characters that don't fit in ISO-8859-1 (which can happen if you use a utf locale), you will get a CONVERSION ERROR upon writing the file, and 'quit' will refuse to quit without you forcing it. - The vimrc says: Make sure we have a sane fallback for encoding detection set fileencodings+=default I guess this is system default. How can I find what is the default setting? Open a new file and type :set enc; it will show the current (default) enconding. This default is what LANG says. See the output of 'locale'. Benno -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Re: Cannot build mono: The contents of your 'monolite' directory may be out-of-date
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to install mono on a new system. To do that, I'm building everything inside a chroot (it's the same system I referred to in the [...] mono-1.2.4 fails as well: [...] | [build/deps/basic-profile-check.exe] Error 1 make[6]: Entering directory | `/Gentoo/Portage/build/portage/dev-lang/mono-1.2.4/work/mono-1.2.4/mcs' | *** The contents of your 'monolite' directory may be out-of-date *** You | may want to try 'make get-monolite-latest' ` [...] I'm building/compiling all of that on a Athlon XP system (no 64bit). It should finally run on a Celeron M system (32bit as well). Hence the -march and -mtune combination (see above). Quite some time ago, I already ran into this on a different system and reported this to bgo at https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153781. Issue back then was, that I had security enhancements (PaX and the like) enabled. I don't have this now. Any ideas about what I might have to do to be able to build mono? I forgot to mount the proc filesystem into that chroot. So, to fix this problem, all I needed to do was mount -t proc ChrootProc /mnt/gentoo/proc Cheers, Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: charset iso/utf
Philip Webb wrote: 070813 Philip Webb wrote: I now have (via a line in .bashrc ): LANG= LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 ... snip ... LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 Ideally LANG should be set and LC_ALL unset. The individual LC_* variables will take their value from LANG when LC_ALL is unset. This has the advantage that you can override the individual variables, which is not possible when LC_ALL is set. In /etc/env.d/02locale I have just this: LANG=en_GB.utf8 LC_TIME=POSIX LC_COLLATE=POSIX and 'locale' produces: LANG=en_GB.utf8 LC_CTYPE=en_GB.utf8 LC_NUMERIC=en_GB.utf8 LC_TIME=POSIX LC_COLLATE=POSIX LC_MONETARY=en_GB.utf8 LC_MESSAGES=en_GB.utf8 LC_PAPER=en_GB.utf8 LC_NAME=en_GB.utf8 LC_ADDRESS=en_GB.utf8 LC_TELEPHONE=en_GB.utf8 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_GB.utf8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_GB.utf8 LC_ALL= Benno -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Re: Cannot build mono: The contents of your 'monolite' directory may be out-of-date
Alexander Skwar wrote: I forgot to mount the proc filesystem into that chroot. So, to fix this problem, all I needed to do was mount -t proc ChrootProc /mnt/gentoo/proc Cheers, Alexander Skwar I thought this was the proper command to mount proc: mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc What is the ChrootProc part? I never seen that before. Google didn't turn up anything either. Just curious. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] Re: Cannot build mono: The contents of your 'monolite' directory may be out-of-date
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Skwar wrote: [...] mount -t proc ChrootProc /mnt/gentoo/proc [...] I thought this was the proper command to mount proc: mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc What is the ChrootProc part? It doesn't matter if you write -t proc proc /mnt... or ChrootProc or FooBar. The source (proc, ChrootProc) is just symbolic name. To the system, it has no meaning whatsoever. It's just something for the user; and as I like to be able to easily differentiate between different things, I tend to chose names, which are differentiable. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] Re: Cannot build mono: The contents of your 'monolite' directory may be out-of-date
Alexander Skwar wrote: It doesn't matter if you write -t proc proc /mnt... or ChrootProc or FooBar. The source (proc, ChrootProc) is just symbolic name. To the system, it has no meaning whatsoever. It's just something for the user; and as I like to be able to easily differentiate between different things, I tend to chose names, which are differentiable. Alexander Skwar OK. I just had never seen that before and thought maybe something new had come out. Google not returning anything really made me curious. Since you used it, I just had to ask. Thanks much. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Must I re-emerge gcc entirely?
On Montag, 13. August 2007, kou yu wrote: I am a newbie to gentoo. Today I emerge my gcc to 4.2.0 When it finished, I found message that the libstdc++ manpage is not maked due to lack of doxygen. My question is whether I must re-emerge gcc entirely after emerging doxygen to make the manpage of libstdc++. Is there a alternative way to avoid compile whole gcc, because it takes a long time... do you need the libstdc++ manpage? if no, then you don't need to do anything. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-driver crashes X
On Montag, 13. August 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: Hi! I'm experiencing some strange problems on one of my machines. Everytime I open the KDE Control Center and on random occasions in Firefox (sometimes after doing nothing for several minutes, just having it open in the background and switching back to it or when starting certain java scripts) the X-Server does no longer react. I can move the cursor but that's it. All I can do is open a remote shell. Top shows me that X is at 97-99% cpu usage and the only way to kill it is with kill -kill I've noticed the following in dmesg: NVRM: Xid: 13, 02005600 0056 0c28 00230291 0080 agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode NVRM: Xid: 13, 02005600 0056 0c28 00230291 0080 agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode That's the situation after two crashes within a few minutes (I tried to open the Control Center). I'm using an NVidia Geforce2 MX with nvidia-drivers-1.0.7185. I'll attach the whole dmesg and lshw output as well as my xorg.conf. Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp By the way: Should I compress attachments? KMail offers automatic zip-compression. first, update you bios. Pull out the card, dust the case, put the card back, retry. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-driver crashes X
Am Montag 13 August 2007 15:14:18 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: On Montag, 13. August 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: Hi! I'm experiencing some strange problems on one of my machines. Everytime I open the KDE Control Center and on random occasions in Firefox (sometimes after doing nothing for several minutes, just having it open in the background and switching back to it or when starting certain java scripts) the X-Server does no longer react. I can move the cursor but that's it. All I can do is open a remote shell. Top shows me that X is at 97-99% cpu usage and the only way to kill it is with kill -kill I've noticed the following in dmesg: NVRM: Xid: 13, 02005600 0056 0c28 00230291 0080 agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode NVRM: Xid: 13, 02005600 0056 0c28 00230291 0080 agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode That's the situation after two crashes within a few minutes (I tried to open the Control Center). I'm using an NVidia Geforce2 MX with nvidia-drivers-1.0.7185. I'll attach the whole dmesg and lshw output as well as my xorg.conf. Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp By the way: Should I compress attachments? KMail offers automatic zip-compression. first, update you bios. Pull out the card, dust the case, put the card back, retry. Bios is updated to the last stable release. The latest beta (for almost 2 years now) crashes badly. The system was build less than two months ago and should not contain much dust. Anyway, it's got no fan at all but I've taken care of possible heat problems. I'll check the bios settings, maybe permanently limiting it to AGP2x helps. I've forgotten to mention that the card works flawlessly with the nv driver. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-driver crashes X
On Montag, 13. August 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: Am Montag 13 August 2007 15:14:18 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: On Montag, 13. August 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: Hi! I'm experiencing some strange problems on one of my machines. Everytime I open the KDE Control Center and on random occasions in Firefox (sometimes after doing nothing for several minutes, just having it open in the background and switching back to it or when starting certain java scripts) the X-Server does no longer react. I can move the cursor but that's it. All I can do is open a remote shell. Top shows me that X is at 97-99% cpu usage and the only way to kill it is with kill -kill I've noticed the following in dmesg: NVRM: Xid: 13, 02005600 0056 0c28 00230291 0080 agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode NVRM: Xid: 13, 02005600 0056 0c28 00230291 0080 agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode That's the situation after two crashes within a few minutes (I tried to open the Control Center). I'm using an NVidia Geforce2 MX with nvidia-drivers-1.0.7185. I'll attach the whole dmesg and lshw output as well as my xorg.conf. Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp By the way: Should I compress attachments? KMail offers automatic zip-compression. first, update you bios. Pull out the card, dust the case, put the card back, retry. Bios is updated to the last stable release. The latest beta (for almost 2 years now) crashes badly. The system was build less than two months ago and should not contain much dust. Anyway, it's got no fan at all but I've taken care of possible heat problems. I'll check the bios settings, maybe permanently limiting it to AGP2x helps. I've forgotten to mention that the card works flawlessly with the nv driver. yeah, because nv does not really stress the card and bus. Such signaling or power problems are masked away. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] logrotate
On 8/13/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have my logrotate configured but it does not work propertly. snip I have logrotate in crontab: # crontab -l [...] 2 0 * * * /usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf Just a stab in the dark - do you have your cron service running? Can you test that it properly runs other cron scripts? If you change the cron line to redirect any stdout + stderr output to a file, do you get anything? HTH- James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-driver crashes X
Am Montag 13 August 2007 16:06:50 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: On Montag, 13. August 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: Am Montag 13 August 2007 15:14:18 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: On Montag, 13. August 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: Hi! I'm experiencing some strange problems on one of my machines. Everytime I open the KDE Control Center and on random occasions in Firefox (sometimes after doing nothing for several minutes, just having it open in the background and switching back to it or when starting certain java scripts) the X-Server does no longer react. I can move the cursor but that's it. All I can do is open a remote shell. Top shows me that X is at 97-99% cpu usage and the only way to kill it is with kill -kill I've noticed the following in dmesg: NVRM: Xid: 13, 02005600 0056 0c28 00230291 0080 agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode NVRM: Xid: 13, 02005600 0056 0c28 00230291 0080 agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode That's the situation after two crashes within a few minutes (I tried to open the Control Center). I'm using an NVidia Geforce2 MX with nvidia-drivers-1.0.7185. I'll attach the whole dmesg and lshw output as well as my xorg.conf. Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp By the way: Should I compress attachments? KMail offers automatic zip-compression. first, update you bios. Pull out the card, dust the case, put the card back, retry. Bios is updated to the last stable release. The latest beta (for almost 2 years now) crashes badly. The system was build less than two months ago and should not contain much dust. Anyway, it's got no fan at all but I've taken care of possible heat problems. I'll check the bios settings, maybe permanently limiting it to AGP2x helps. I've forgotten to mention that the card works flawlessly with the nv driver. yeah, because nv does not really stress the card and bus. Such signaling or power problems are masked away. I still suspect a driver issue because I never had any problems on Windows. Anyway, if it makes you happy, I'll check it for connection problems as soon as possible (maybe tomorrow). But hardware problems can't explain why I can use it for office, watching DVDs, GoogleEarth and such like for hours while starting KDE's Control Panel crashes it immediately every time I try it. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-driver crashes X
On Montag, 13. August 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: Am Montag 13 August 2007 16:06:50 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: On Montag, 13. August 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: Am Montag 13 August 2007 15:14:18 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: On Montag, 13. August 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: Hi! I'm experiencing some strange problems on one of my machines. Everytime I open the KDE Control Center and on random occasions in Firefox (sometimes after doing nothing for several minutes, just having it open in the background and switching back to it or when starting certain java scripts) the X-Server does no longer react. I can move the cursor but that's it. All I can do is open a remote shell. Top shows me that X is at 97-99% cpu usage and the only way to kill it is with kill -kill I've noticed the following in dmesg: NVRM: Xid: 13, 02005600 0056 0c28 00230291 0080 agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode NVRM: Xid: 13, 02005600 0056 0c28 00230291 0080 agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up support for x2 x1 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode That's the situation after two crashes within a few minutes (I tried to open the Control Center). I'm using an NVidia Geforce2 MX with nvidia-drivers-1.0.7185. I'll attach the whole dmesg and lshw output as well as my xorg.conf. Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp By the way: Should I compress attachments? KMail offers automatic zip-compression. first, update you bios. Pull out the card, dust the case, put the card back, retry. Bios is updated to the last stable release. The latest beta (for almost 2 years now) crashes badly. The system was build less than two months ago and should not contain much dust. Anyway, it's got no fan at all but I've taken care of possible heat problems. I'll check the bios settings, maybe permanently limiting it to AGP2x helps. I've forgotten to mention that the card works flawlessly with the nv driver. yeah, because nv does not really stress the card and bus. Such signaling or power problems are masked away. I still suspect a driver issue because I never had any problems on Windows. Anyway, if it makes you happy, I'll check it for connection problems as soon as possible (maybe tomorrow). But hardware problems can't explain why I can use it for office, watching DVDs, GoogleEarth and such like for hours while starting KDE's Control Panel crashes it immediately every time I try it. because of the Xid. From the part in your mail it looks like you get your first one as soon as X starts. And after a Xid the gpu is in a highly unstable condition. You can post your problem in the nvnews-forum. Maybe you'll find some help there. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] mplayerplug-in not working
Hi, I'd like to view some videos hosted in a gallery. So, when I go to the web I see I need x-msvideo, so I install mplayerplugin-in, and I make a link: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/.mozilla/plugins $ pwd /home/arnau/.mozilla/plugins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/.mozilla/plugins $ ln -s /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins/mplayerplug-in.so ./ But after restarting firefox, I cannot see videos... any clue? TIA -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] logrotate
On 8/13/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 07:18:49 -0700 James Ausmus wrote: On 8/13/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Just a stab in the dark - do you have your cron service running? Can you test that it properly runs other cron scripts? Yep, cause I have 5 gziped log files, so I works until the fifth file... Have you verified it? If you do a ps -elf | grep -i cron Is there a /usr/sbin/cron listed? Just because it worked before doesn't mean it didn't die since. :) I've discovered (many times, the hard way, over and over ;) that it is unwise to make any assumptions when troubleshooting issues - if you do, then you can be very far down a complicated road to resolution when you discover it is a very basic issue that would have taken 10 seconds to fix. :) -James If you change the cron line to redirect any stdout + stderr output to a file, do you get anything? Did not test, but gonna do it. HTH- James Cheers, Arnau -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] logrotate
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 07:18:49 -0700 James Ausmus wrote: On 8/13/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Just a stab in the dark - do you have your cron service running? Can you test that it properly runs other cron scripts? Yep, cause I have 5 gziped log files, so I works until the fifth file... If you change the cron line to redirect any stdout + stderr output to a file, do you get anything? Did not test, but gonna do it. HTH- James Cheers, Arnau -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
On 8/12/07, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP I'll report back later as to the functionality of the system. It's still running mythbackend as this process goes on. At least it's helping my network do good things Cheers, Mark Thanks to all who responded to this thread. Your help was greatly appreciated. The machine has completed rebuilding and so far all the applications I've tried seem to be functioning fine. Great group of folks here! Unparalleled! Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] logrotate
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:19:17 -0700 James Ausmus wrote: On 8/13/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 07:18:49 -0700 James Ausmus wrote: On 8/13/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Just a stab in the dark - do you have your cron service running? Can you test that it properly runs other cron scripts? Yep, cause I have 5 gziped log files, so I works until the fifth file... Have you verified it? If you do a ps -elf | grep -i cron Is there a /usr/sbin/cron listed? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ps -elf | grep -i cron 5 S root 7880 1 0 76 0 - 540 - 01:42 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cron Just because it worked before doesn't mean it didn't die since. :) Well, in fact is a problem that has repeated so many times that I have to find a solution...I've asked in some list, and got no solution... So, it's not first time. I've discovered (many times, the hard way, over and over ;) that it is unwise to make any assumptions when troubleshooting issues - if you do, then you can be very far down a complicated road to resolution when you discover it is a very basic issue that would have taken 10 seconds to fix. :) Yep, sometimes is just you have your network wire unplugged... ;-) -James Thanks for your help. -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayerplug-in not working
Arnau Bria wrote: Hi, I'd like to view some videos hosted in a gallery. So, when I go to the web I see I need x-msvideo, so I install mplayerplugin-in, and I make a link: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/.mozilla/plugins $ pwd /home/arnau/.mozilla/plugins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/.mozilla/plugins $ ln -s /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins/mplayerplug-in.so ./ But after restarting firefox, I cannot see videos... any clue? Have you installed the essential codecs? http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html -- Phil Sexton: http://www.myspace.com/philsexton Praise Whistlers Abroad: http://praisewhistlers.org/ Naomi's Fancy: http://www.naomisfancy.net/ Naomi's Fancy myspace: http://www.myspace.com/naomisfancy/ The Old Bush: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy/ Crossing Borders: http://cdbaby.com/cd/naomisfancy2 Naomi's Fancy Free tunes: http://www.naomisfancy.net/modules.php?name=Downloads -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayerplug-in not working
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:17:50 -0400 Phil Sexton wrote: Arnau Bria wrote: Hi, I'd like to view some videos hosted in a gallery. So, when I go to the web I see I need x-msvideo, so I install mplayerplugin-in, and I make a link: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/.mozilla/plugins $ pwd /home/arnau/.mozilla/plugins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/.mozilla/plugins $ ln -s /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins/mplayerplug-in.so ./ But after restarting firefox, I cannot see videos... any clue? Have you installed the essential codecs? http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html Well, I had some (win32codecs use flag) in /usr/lib/win32, and now I have all... no better results :-( TA -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT :video cameras and gentoo
i meant its main function is taking photos. an added feature is it takes movies, i wouldn't consider it a serious camera. show us what you are getting in dmesg when you plug in the camera. and i think it is very stupid that someone would make it so you could only transfer photos with usb. if it shows up as a hard drive you should have to do more or less exactly what garry said. if you can get a usb thumbdrive to mount on your computer, you should be able to mount your camera in the same way. On 8/13/07, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe that's the case for video cameras, which usually use firewire for video transfer. I have a customer who bought a DV camcorder with a USB socket it transpired that this socket was only capable of transferring photos from the camera (which had both a video and a static photo mode). Video had to be transferred by firewire. Although videos appear in the mass storage device of my mum's digicam in proper video recorders firewire is MUCH more common. If I wanted to record video I would expect to be buying a firewire-capable video camera; although I might well take Iain Buchanan's advice of 13th August 2007 00:00:23 BST to supplant my previous expectations, I wouldn't expect USB is a serious camcorder. Stroller. On 12 Aug 2007, at 14:46, Paul wrote: i have a sony digital camera that takes movies, and it just shows up as a usb drive. i would assume that the video recorders would work the same way. maybe you can take a laptop to a store that sells them and check to see if it works that way or find someone that has one and borrow it. if you dont want sony recorders im sure you can find another brand with the same interface. On 8/10/07, Don Jerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/10/07, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to all, I'm in need of a portable video camera(or rig), such as the sony SR82, but one that is gentoo friendly for video transfer. Hopefully I can find a video camera that transfers directly to a gentoo sytem via usb 2.0? After my experience with a Sony Viao Laptop, I'm not really keen on anything else from sony (now that I think about it). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- / / \ O / \/_( .__ / \ __\/ ) ./ (
Re: [gentoo-user] CXXABI error after gcc upgrade
On Monday 13 August 2007, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] CXXABI error after gcc upgrade': # emerge -C -p -v gcc Wrong-ish command line. Try emerge -aP gcc -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
On 8/13/07, Markus Schönhaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: revdep-rebuild wanted to emerge again. I get quite tired, and frankly do not understand, why gcc itself should be on this list so often, Maybe because of this: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728#c29 Regrads mks Markus, Thanks. I tried the ~x86 version of gentoolkit and revdep-rebuild does not generate the requirement to rebuild gcc. That's an improvement. Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] upgrade to expat 2 blows up system
I guess someone else has come across this already in a different thread. Is there a guide yet? I like to emerge -u with D and N flags, but this can't happen again until expat upgrade is smoothed out? for amusement 420 emerge -auDNv system 422 emerge -auDNv world 424 emerge -av XML-Parser 431 emerge -auDNv world 432 emerge -Cv gnome-base/control-center 434 emerge -Cv app-dicts/aspell-en 435 emerge -av XML-Parser 436 emerge -auDNv world 437 /etc/init.d/gpm start 439 tac /var/log/portage/gnome-base:gnome-keyring-0.8.1:20070812-213457.log|less 443 equery b libfontconfig.so 444 revdep-rebuild -p fontconfig 446 locate libexpat.so 448 eix expat 449 emerge -av expat 450 equery d expat 452 emerge -aDv dbus 453 dispatch-conf 456 revdep-rebuild -X 457 tac /var/log/portage/x11-libs:qt-3.3.8-r3:20070812-215617.log |less 458 eix fontconfig 460 emerge -aDv fontconfig 461 emerge -aDv expat 462 eix expat 464 emerge -av =expat-1.95.8 465 revdep-rebuild -X 475 emerge -aDv gnome-light [ this quietly emerges expat 2, iirc ] [ getting desperate here ] 478 emerge -aCv XML-Parser 479 emerge -av XML-Parser 480 emerge -aDv gnome-light 481 locate libexpat.so.0 482 /etc/init.d/gpm 483 /etc/init.d/gpm start 485 locate libexpat.so.0 486 ls -l /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 487 eix expat 491 emerge -av --oneshot =dev-libs/expat-1.95.8 492 emerge -aCv XML-Parser 493 emerge -av XML-Parser 494 ls -l /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 495 emerge -aDv gnome-light 496 emerge -pDv gnome-light |less 497 emerge -pv gnome-light |less [ AHA! ] 498 emerge -av gnome-light 499 dispatch-conf /end amusement So, I'm still not upgraded to expat 2, but my system works again. So, is there a proven way to do upgrade to have a system using expat 2 libs? Cheers, -- Michael Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
On Monday 13 August 2007 20:35:58 Mark Knecht wrote: revdep-rebuild wanted to emerge again. I get quite tired, and frankly do not understand, why gcc itself should be on this list so often, Maybe because of this: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728#c29 Thanks. I tried the ~x86 version of gentoolkit and revdep-rebuild does not generate the requirement to rebuild gcc. That's an improvement. No, it's really not.. There are several bugs open against it. I'm pretty convinced the latest revdep-rebuild is just broken.. -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Internet bridge
Hi, basically, I want to share the internet using a Bridge on a pc with two NICS, one for internet, the other for Internal Network. Now, I know a easiest approuch would be to use NAT, which is how I'm doing now, but since I really need Level 2 Routing, I can't afford doing this with nat. A simple network layout would be like this: Internet[eth1]Gentoo[eth0]LAN So, what I've done was this: 1)Installed the net-misc/bridge-utils 2)Enable the bridge module on the kernel 3)Load it 4)ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 5)ifconfig eth1 0.0.0.0 6)brctl addbr br0 7)brctl setfd br0 0 8)brctl addif br0 eth0 9)brctl addif br0 eth1 10)ifconfig br0 up Now comes the tricky part, since the internet I recieve is via DHCP, and on eth1, if I make: dhcpcd eth1, it timesout, but if I use dhclient eth1, it works, almost, I can get an IP at least, so I've sticked with this 11)dhclient eth1 12)ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 Now, you would have to excuse me, because I really don't remember if that worked, but I think it didn't, what I made (that at least didn't put the whole network down), was all of this, but on step 10 forward: 10)ifconfig br0 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up 11)dhclient eth1 And by this, I can actually browse the internal network, but not the internet, in none of the machines, neither the bridge, with/without a iptables firewall enabled. Can anyone please help me? Thanks a lot. Mateus -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
When I was upgrading on one of the machines, I did encounter this same error on a couple gnome-related ebuilds (I don't actually have either gnome or kde desktops installed - only fluxbox). I ended up upgrading XML-Parser, then did a revdep-rebuild, which told me to re-install gettext, dbus, and dbus-glib. Once those steps were done, the packages that were giving me compile errors emerged smoothly. In the end, I had to also re-install audacious-plugins package. Most of the re-installs were due to expat lib as well. However, on my other machine, the upgrade of the same packages was seamless, and the list of packages to upgrade were somewhat different, although the two machines are configured pretty much identically. The only difference I could see is that my work machine has a different default RSYNC mirror selected than the one at home. Could some of the packages have been out of sync on the different mirrors and cause this messy upgrade procedure to happen on some machines? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
On 8/13/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 13 August 2007 20:35:58 Mark Knecht wrote: revdep-rebuild wanted to emerge again. I get quite tired, and frankly do not understand, why gcc itself should be on this list so often, Maybe because of this: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728#c29 Thanks. I tried the ~x86 version of gentoolkit and revdep-rebuild does not generate the requirement to rebuild gcc. That's an improvement. No, it's really not.. There are several bugs open against it. I'm pretty convinced the latest revdep-rebuild is just broken.. Well, you know better than I do Bo. All I'm saying is that for this problem I was not required to rebuild gvv for the 4th time in 3 days. I could always use the stable version and then delete gcc from the list of things to build. That would work also. However both ways leave a dummy like me not knowing if my machine is correctly configured and rebuilding gcc over and over again uses so much time and system power that it gets in the way of really using the machine. Anyway, thanks for the comments. - Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet bridge
Mateus Interciso wrote: Can anyone please help me? Thanks a lot. Errm . why don't you just buy a router? They are so cheap these days it doesn't make any sense not to. Be lucky, Neil -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
On Monday 13 August 2007 21:47:05 Mark Knecht wrote: Maybe because of this: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728#c29 Thanks. I tried the ~x86 version of gentoolkit and revdep-rebuild does not generate the requirement to rebuild gcc. That's an improvement. No, it's really not.. There are several bugs open against it. I'm pretty convinced the latest revdep-rebuild is just broken.. Well, you know better than I do Bo. All I'm saying is that for this problem I was not required to rebuild gvv for the 4th time in 3 days. I could always use the stable version and then delete gcc from the list of things to build. That would work also. However both ways leave a dummy like me not knowing if my machine is correctly configured and rebuilding gcc over and over again uses so much time and system power that it gets in the way of really using the machine. Or you could read the link to bugs.gentoo.org in the top of this mail. Or post the output from the stable version of revdep-rebuild --ignore. -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrade to expat 2 blows up system
On Monday 13 August 2007 21:43:03 Joshua Doll wrote: I find the easiest solution is to link /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1.5.2 to /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0, but I don't think that's the right of doing things. Things start working again though. Sure.. and occasionally things crash randomly as a result of it.. -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: Internet bridge
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:55:29 +0100, Neil Walker wrote: Mateus Interciso wrote: Can anyone please help me? Thanks a lot. Errm . why don't you just buy a router? They are so cheap these days it doesn't make any sense not to. Be lucky, Neil -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Can't, sorry, low on budget. :( -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet bridge
On 13 August 2007, Mateus Interciso wrote: Hi, basically, I want to share the internet using a Bridge on a pc with two NICS, one for internet, the other for Internal Network. Now, I know a easiest approuch would be to use NAT, which is how I'm doing now, Actually, masquerading would be the easiest way, but that's besides the point. but since I really need Level 2 Routing, I can't afford doing this with nat. I beg your pardon? NATting and masquerading takes place on layer 2 (IP). Oh, do you mean you need *incoming* routing? Won't work. A simple network layout would be like this: Internet[eth1]Gentoo[eth0]LAN So, what I've done was this: 1)Installed the net-misc/bridge-utils 2)Enable the bridge module on the kernel 3)Load it 4)ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 5)ifconfig eth1 0.0.0.0 6)brctl addbr br0 7)brctl setfd br0 0 8)brctl addif br0 eth0 9)brctl addif br0 eth1 10)ifconfig br0 up Now comes the tricky part, since the internet I recieve is via DHCP, and on eth1, if I make: dhcpcd eth1, it timesout, but if I use dhclient eth1, it works, almost, I can get an IP at least, so I've sticked with this 11)dhclient eth1 12)ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 Now, you would have to excuse me, because I really don't remember if that worked, but I think it didn't, what I made (that at least didn't put the whole network down), was all of this, but on step 10 forward: 10)ifconfig br0 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up 11)dhclient eth1 And by this, I can actually browse the internal network, but not the internet, in none of the machines, neither the bridge, with/without a iptables firewall enabled. AFAIK, this will never work. If you really need incoming connections on certain ports you can use port forwarding with NAT on your firewall. Bridging is not for this kind of thing. Uwe -- Jack Nicholson: My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son of a bitch. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrade to expat 2 blows up system
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Monday 13 August 2007 21:43:03 Joshua Doll wrote: I find the easiest solution is to link /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1.5.2 to /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0, but I don't think that's the right of doing things. Things start working again though. Sure.. and occasionally things crash randomly as a result of it.. Didn't say it was the best solution just the easiest. I would like to point I did try the revdep-rebuild like the ebuild said but still nothing would compile. It wasn't until I created that symlink that things started to compile again. --Joshua Doll -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Internet bridge
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:58:40 +0100, Uwe Thiem wrote: On 13 August 2007, Mateus Interciso wrote: Hi, basically, I want to share the internet using a Bridge on a pc with two NICS, one for internet, the other for Internal Network. Now, I know a easiest approuch would be to use NAT, which is how I'm doing now, Actually, masquerading would be the easiest way, but that's besides the point. but since I really need Level 2 Routing, I can't afford doing this with nat. I beg your pardon? NATting and masquerading takes place on layer 2 (IP). Oh, do you mean you need *incoming* routing? Won't work. A simple network layout would be like this: Internet[eth1]Gentoo[eth0]LAN So, what I've done was this: 1)Installed the net-misc/bridge-utils 2)Enable the bridge module on the kernel 3)Load it 4)ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 5)ifconfig eth1 0.0.0.0 6)brctl addbr br0 7)brctl setfd br0 0 8)brctl addif br0 eth0 9)brctl addif br0 eth1 10)ifconfig br0 up Now comes the tricky part, since the internet I recieve is via DHCP, and on eth1, if I make: dhcpcd eth1, it timesout, but if I use dhclient eth1, it works, almost, I can get an IP at least, so I've sticked with this 11)dhclient eth1 12)ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 Now, you would have to excuse me, because I really don't remember if that worked, but I think it didn't, what I made (that at least didn't put the whole network down), was all of this, but on step 10 forward: 10)ifconfig br0 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up 11)dhclient eth1 And by this, I can actually browse the internal network, but not the internet, in none of the machines, neither the bridge, with/without a iptables firewall enabled. AFAIK, this will never work. If you really need incoming connections on certain ports you can use port forwarding with NAT on your firewall. Bridging is not for this kind of thing. Uwe -- Jack Nicholson: My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son of a bitch. Actually, I need a fully transparent bridge, for for instance, correcly using a SIP phone, which even with siproxd, it doesn't work, so, NAT and Masquerade, won't help me. I'm pretty sure I can transform the gentoo box in a transparent bridge router, I just don't know how. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CXXABI error after gcc upgrade
On 13/08/07, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 13 August 2007, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] CXXABI error after gcc upgrade': # emerge -C -p -v gcc Wrong-ish command line. Try emerge -aP gcc Sure: # emerge -aP gcc These are the packages that would be unmerged: No packages selected for removal by prune I remember seeing this before on another machine of mine. gcc-config would show previous slots that had been unmerged some time ago. Never bottomed out why this happens. -- Regards, Mick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
On 8/13/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 13 August 2007 21:47:05 Mark Knecht wrote: Maybe because of this: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728#c29 Thanks. I tried the ~x86 version of gentoolkit and revdep-rebuild does not generate the requirement to rebuild gcc. That's an improvement. No, it's really not.. There are several bugs open against it. I'm pretty convinced the latest revdep-rebuild is just broken.. Well, you know better than I do Bo. All I'm saying is that for this problem I was not required to rebuild gvv for the 4th time in 3 days. I could always use the stable version and then delete gcc from the list of things to build. That would work also. However both ways leave a dummy like me not knowing if my machine is correctly configured and rebuilding gcc over and over again uses so much time and system power that it gets in the way of really using the machine. Or you could read the link to bugs.gentoo.org in the top of this mail. Or post the output from the stable version of revdep-rebuild --ignore. I did read it. It seemed that the stable revdep-rebuild solution was to start editing system files. I didn't want to do that as I don't know what they do. (Please remember, I am a DUMMY. I am NOT a computer scientist, a sys admin or a programmer. I used to design chips and now play music and trade stocks and options. I don't use ~x86 except when I have a reason. I suspect I'll just go back to stable and join the hordes looking for a fix to the stable version of revdep-rebuild.) Anyway, thanks for the help. Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Internet bridge
On Monday 13 August 2007 21:41:31 Mateus Interciso wrote: Actually, I need a fully transparent bridge, for for instance, correcly using a SIP phone, which even with siproxd, it doesn't work, so, NAT and Masquerade, won't help me. I'm pretty sure I can transform the gentoo box in a transparent bridge router, I just don't know how. ip_conntrack_sip SIP can be NATted. Simply NAT the packets as normal with the module loaded. If you still want to go the bridge route, I believe you need to give the IP addresses to the bridge, not the underlying ethernet interfaces. -- Mike Williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
On Monday 13 August 2007 22:54:59 Mark Knecht wrote: Maybe because of this: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728#c29 [SNIP] Or you could read the link to bugs.gentoo.org in the top of this mail. Or post the output from the stable version of revdep-rebuild --ignore. I did read it. It seemed that the stable revdep-rebuild solution was to start editing system files. I didn't want to do that as I don't know what they do. (Please remember, I am a DUMMY. I am NOT a computer scientist, a sys admin or a programmer. I used to design chips and now play music and trade stocks and options. I don't use ~x86 except when I have a reason. I suspect I'll just go back to stable and join the hordes looking for a fix to the stable version of revdep-rebuild.) No no no. It's gcc with the gcj use flag that's broken. The stable version of revdep-rebuild is just showing you already existing breakage in gcc (or inconsistency if you will). Editing those .la files or creating those symlinks are proper solutions. Another solution if you don't need gcj anyway is to disable that use flag.. -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
On 8/13/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 13 August 2007 22:54:59 Mark Knecht wrote: Maybe because of this: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728#c29 [SNIP] Or you could read the link to bugs.gentoo.org in the top of this mail. Or post the output from the stable version of revdep-rebuild --ignore. I did read it. It seemed that the stable revdep-rebuild solution was to start editing system files. I didn't want to do that as I don't know what they do. (Please remember, I am a DUMMY. I am NOT a computer scientist, a sys admin or a programmer. I used to design chips and now play music and trade stocks and options. I don't use ~x86 except when I have a reason. I suspect I'll just go back to stable and join the hordes looking for a fix to the stable version of revdep-rebuild.) No no no. It's gcc with the gcj use flag that's broken. The stable version of revdep-rebuild is just showing you already existing breakage in gcc (or inconsistency if you will). Editing those .la files or creating those symlinks are proper solutions. Another solution if you don't need gcj anyway is to disable that use flag.. Ah, OK, that's different. I looked up the gcj flag and got this: gcj Enable building with gcj (The GNU Compiler for the Javatm Programming Language) I don't know if I *need* it. I don't know how I would tell if I'm even using it today. Is thee some way for me to test whether I've ever compiled Java code with with gcc? I personally would guess that I haven't as it sounds like something you'd know if you were doing, but possibly portage builds something this way that I'm not aware of? Anyway, I don't *think* I need it so I'm happy to turn off the flag and test how things work with the stable version of gentoolkit. Thanks in advance, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vim encoding
On 13/08/07, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mick wrote: - My /etc/vim/vimrc says scriptencoding utf-8, does this mean that this is the vim encoding and any new file will be saved with this encoding? No, scriptencoding is just the encoding of /etc/vim/vimrc. File encoding is handled by 'fileencodings' further down. - If I open a file which was saved with ISO-8859-1, edit it and save it, will it keep the original encoding? Yes. Vim will never change the encoding of a file. If you typed characters that don't fit in ISO-8859-1 (which can happen if you use a utf locale), you will get a CONVERSION ERROR upon writing the file, and 'quit' will refuse to quit without you forcing it. Hmm, I just checked a utf-8 file after I edited it and it says: :set encoding encoding=latin1 I assume this means that it was changed from utf8 to latin1 (what ever this is . . . is it relevant to ISO-8859-1?) - The vimrc says: Make sure we have a sane fallback for encoding detection set fileencodings+=default I guess this is system default. How can I find what is the default setting? Open a new file and type :set enc; it will show the current (default) enconding. This default is what LANG says. See the output of 'locale'. The output of locale gives me: === $ locale LANG= LC_CTYPE=POSIX LC_NUMERIC=POSIX LC_TIME=POSIX LC_COLLATE=POSIX LC_MONETARY=POSIX LC_MESSAGES=POSIX LC_PAPER=POSIX LC_NAME=POSIX LC_ADDRESS=POSIX LC_TELEPHONE=POSIX LC_MEASUREMENT=POSIX LC_IDENTIFICATION=POSIX LC_ALL= === Not sure I understand what all this means. Is my Vim installation working as it should? Do I have to change my locale? -- Regards, Mick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vim encoding
Mick wrote: Hmm, I just checked a utf-8 file after I edited it and it says: :set encoding encoding=latin1 I assume this means that it was changed from utf8 to latin1 No. To see what encoding a file has, you could use 'file'. Run 'file thefileyouedited', and it should say UTF-8 Unicode text. When you open the file again with vim, it will say [converted] on the status line: converted from utf-8 to latin1. (whatever this is . . . is it relevant to ISO-8859-1?) Latin1 is a synonym for ISO-8859-1. Because your LANG isn't set, the default is Latin1, as you could have learned by typing ':help enc' in vim. Not sure I understand what all this means. Is my Vim installation working as it should? You can edit any file you like, vim will auto-convert on read and write. Do I have to change my locale? Depends on what you want. If new files should be UTF-8 encoded, then change your locale. Otherwise you're fine as you are. Benno -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
On a second machine I tried: revdep-rebuild -X --library=libexpat.so.0 it recompiles a lot of packages including subversion and apache, however both programs won't run because libexpat.so.0 is required somewhere. If I run revdep-rebuild again, only arputil will be re-emerged, however that doesn't help, so for the time being I'll create the symlink as I did on my other machine and see if that helps enough to get my server running again. Regards, Henk. I had the same problem, running: emerge -av XML-Parser helped; now I'm moving forward. -- #Joseph -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] expat troubles now gnome *very flakey*
I successfully battled the expat problem (with Bo's help) and revdep-rebuild reports no further need to recompile. But gnome seems badly broken. $HOME/.gnomerc-errors has one line SESSION_MANAGER=local/ajglap:/tmp/.ICE-unix/7081 1. (minor) gdm can't find the emergence theme, haven't tracked it down since it is minor. 2. No apps seem to start. If I start e.g. gnucash from an xterm the app puts up no window. Here is a ps listing 10136 pts/0S 0:00 gnucash bin Similar results for other gnome apps 3. The panel doesn't appear on the screen, but it does for a root login. I really could use some help I am thinking of trying to rebuild the world (emerge --emptytree world). Am I correct in believing that this is not likely to make things worse. For example emacs-22 and firefox-2.0.0.6 work fine now. thanks allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] expat troubles now gnome *very flakey*
On 8/13/07, Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I successfully battled the expat problem (with Bo's help) and revdep-rebuild reports no further need to recompile. But gnome seems badly broken. $HOME/.gnomerc-errors has one line SESSION_MANAGER=local/ajglap:/tmp/.ICE-unix/7081 1. (minor) gdm can't find the emergence theme, haven't tracked it down since it is minor. 2. No apps seem to start. If I start e.g. gnucash from an xterm the app puts up no window. Here is a ps listing 10136 pts/0S 0:00 gnucash bin Similar results for other gnome apps 3. The panel doesn't appear on the screen, but it does for a root login. I really could use some help I am thinking of trying to rebuild the world (emerge --emptytree world). Am I correct in believing that this is not likely to make things worse. For example emacs-22 and firefox-2.0.0.6 work fine now. thanks allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I'm currently updating the world tree on my machine and I did run into the expat issue. Luckily, it was successfully resolved. I sincerely hope that I don't run into the same issues that you are. -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Wrong version magic with alsa_modules
When I load the alsa-modules snd-hda-intel, i have this error: FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.22-gentoo-r2/misc/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Invalid module format In the dmesg : snd_hda_intel: version magic '2.6.22-gentoo-r2 SMP mod_unload PENTIUMIII ' should be '2.6.22-gentoo-r2 SMP mod_unload CORE2 ' I have also the sames errors for othes modules: snd_mixer_oss , snd_seq_oss, ... # emerge --info Portage 2.1.3.5 (default-linux/x86/2007.0, gcc-4.2.0, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.22-gentoo-r2 i686) = System uname: 2.6.22-gentoo-r2 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7500 @ 2.20GHz Gentoo Base System release 1.12.10 Timestamp of tree: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:20:01 + dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1 dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r4 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.18.1 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.61-r1 sys-devel/automake: 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10 sys-devel/binutils: 2.17-r1 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.24 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.22-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 ~x86 AUTOCLEAN=yes CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-march=pentium-m -msse3 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo CXXFLAGS=-march=pentium-m -msse3 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=distlocks metadata-transfer parallel-fetch sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch GENTOO_MIRRORS=ftp://mirror.ovh.net/gentoo-distfiles/; LINGUAS=fr MAKEOPTS=-j3 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages --filter=H_**/files/digest-* PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=X a52 aac acl acpi alsa avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bluetooth bzip2 bzlib cdr cli cracklib crypt cups dbus divx4linux dri dvd dvdr ffmpeg fortran ftp gdbm gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 hal iconv ieee1394 irc isdnlog java javascript jpeg kde lm_sensors matroska midi mmx mozilla mp3 mpeg msn mudflap ncurses nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin ntfs nvidia ogg openal opengl openmp pam pcre pdf perl png pppd python qt3 qt4 quicktime readline real reflection sdl session sockets socks5 spl sse sse2 ssl tcltk tcpd tiff truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode usb videos vorbis wifi win32codecs wxwindows x264 x86 xine xorg xosd xvid zlib ALSA_CARDS=hda-intel ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol ELIBC=glibc INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev KERNEL=linux LCD_DEVICES=bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text LINGUAS=fr USERLAND=GNU VIDEO_CARDS=nvidia Unset: CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY What's wrong ?
[gentoo-user] Portage annoyances
Three of my systems are having package management trouble. One of the systems does this after revdep-rebuild: All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1 have been masked. but I don't know why it wants a masked version of gcc. Another system wants to unmerge a bunch of crucial stuff with --depclean, including: x11-base/xorg-x11 selected: 7.1 protected: none omitted: none x11-apps/xdm selected: 1.0.5 protected: none omitted: none If I do a pretend emerge of xorg-x11 and xdm, it want to upgrade a bunch of packages but 'emerge -pDuN world' find nothing. I have this: # equery depends xorg-x11 [ Searching for packages depending on xorg-x11... ] virtual/x11-7.0-r2 (=x11-base/xorg-x11-7) The other system outputs a bunch of libtiff.la stuff about ImageMagick like: broken /usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.2.2/modules-Q16/filters/analyze.la (requires /usr/lib/libtiff.la) but then says there is nothing to rebuild. Can anyone help with fixing these problems? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] expat troubles now gnome *very flakey*
On 8/13/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/13/07, Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I successfully battled the expat problem (with Bo's help) and revdep-rebuild reports no further need to recompile. But gnome seems badly broken. $HOME/.gnomerc-errors has one line SESSION_MANAGER=local/ajglap:/tmp/.ICE-unix/7081 1. (minor) gdm can't find the emergence theme, haven't tracked it down since it is minor. 2. No apps seem to start. If I start e.g. gnucash from an xterm the app puts up no window. Here is a ps listing 10136 pts/0S 0:00 gnucash bin Similar results for other gnome apps 3. The panel doesn't appear on the screen, but it does for a root login. I really could use some help I am thinking of trying to rebuild the world (emerge --emptytree world). Am I correct in believing that this is not likely to make things worse. For example emacs-22 and firefox-2.0.0.6 work fine now. thanks allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I'm currently updating the world tree on my machine and I did run into the expat issue. Luckily, it was successfully resolved. I sincerely hope that I don't run into the same issues that you are. -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net Wow. Well, contrary to my expectations, my system (after emerge -uDNav world) exhibits every one of the problems that you had. At least you can take solace in the fact that you're not alone. Would appreciate some help! -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage annoyances
Hi, On (13/08/07 17:22) Grant wrote: Three of my systems are having package management trouble. One of the systems does this after revdep-rebuild: All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1 have been masked. Please post the output of: eix sys-devel/gcc and: ls -ld /etc/make.profile but I don't know why it wants a masked version of gcc. Another system wants to unmerge a bunch of crucial stuff with --depclean, including: x11-base/xorg-x11 selected: 7.1 protected: none omitted: none x11-apps/xdm selected: 1.0.5 protected: none omitted: none Manually put both in: /var/lib/portage/world file (backup it, just in case). Seems you had virtual/x11 which pulled all dependencies, but not anymore. If I do a pretend emerge of xorg-x11 and xdm, it want to upgrade a bunch of packages but 'emerge -pDuN world' find nothing. I have this: # equery depends xorg-x11 [ Searching for packages depending on xorg-x11... ] virtual/x11-7.0-r2 (=x11-base/xorg-x11-7) The other system outputs a bunch of libtiff.la stuff about ImageMagick like: broken /usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.2.2/modules-Q16/filters/analyze.la (requires /usr/lib/libtiff.la) Do you have a tiff USE-flag set ? eix imagemagick but then says there is nothing to rebuild. Can anyone help with fixing these problems? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list HTH. Rumen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: OT :video cameras and gentoo
Garry Smith garry.smith at computer.org writes: Hi James {SNIP} Try the above. This is a great little camera and I am really glad I bought it. Garry Hello Garry, Last last night I got it to work, noodling around with it, I figured out you have to push several menu buttons before IVMAN picked up the usb device. Once that happened, I was off to the races. I do appreciate your meticulous instructions. In fact we should build/populate a sony/handicam gentoo wiki, so it is very straight forward For other to use a sony HDD video camera with Gentoo... I have many things I want to try and do with Gentoo and the family video camera. Virtually all of the players I tested last night, vlc, mplayer kaffeine and codeine all worked fabulously with the Mpeg(2) files, I tried. Right now, I've got about 75 individual files in a dir because I stopped and started the camera after each play on my sons football game. That way I can figure out how to index into the game, on a chronological basis,to review an individual play, or just watch the entire game from start to finish. I'm going to write some simple scripts to auto convert these ugly (name )files to something more meaningful and logical, keeping each game in a separate dir. I wonder if anyone has hacked any database stuff to help one manage a large collect of video files Now on to converting them to Mpeg4-avc (h.264). More to come, but, THANKS for your advice. You are right on the money... James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Internet bridge
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:17:03 +0100, Mike Williams wrote: On Monday 13 August 2007 21:41:31 Mateus Interciso wrote: Actually, I need a fully transparent bridge, for for instance, correcly using a SIP phone, which even with siproxd, it doesn't work, so, NAT and Masquerade, won't help me. I'm pretty sure I can transform the gentoo box in a transparent bridge router, I just don't know how. ip_conntrack_sip SIP can be NATted. Simply NAT the packets as normal with the module loaded. If you still want to go the bridge route, I believe you need to give the IP addresses to the bridge, not the underlying ethernet interfaces. -- Mike Williams I did used the ip_conntrack_sip module, and it didn't worked. Do you know how to give the ip addresses to the bridge, instead of the iface? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] expat troubles now gnome *very flakey*
At Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:15:20 -0400 Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/13/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. Well, contrary to my expectations, my system (after emerge -uDNav world) exhibits every one of the problems that you had. At least you can take solace in the fact that you're not alone. I really need some gnome apps (especially gnucash for my checking acct and evolution for my schedule). I have plenty of data backups but no backup machine. A reinstall is possible, but of course painful. I could start emerge -e world I would just like some agreement that this is not likely to make things worse. Currently with emacs and firefox, I can read/send mail, and prepare and view my (html) class notes. So I do have something to lose. Hopefully someone will give us some help; this group is very good for that. allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] expat troubles now gnome *very flakey*
On (13/08/07 22:32) Allan Gottlieb wrote: At Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:15:20 -0400 Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/13/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. Well, contrary to my expectations, my system (after emerge -uDNav world) exhibits every one of the problems that you had. At least you can take solace in the fact that you're not alone. I really need some gnome apps (especially gnucash for my checking acct and evolution for my schedule). I have plenty of data backups but no backup machine. A reinstall is possible, but of course painful. I could start emerge -e world I would just like some agreement that this is not likely to make things worse. Currently with emacs and firefox, I can read/send mail, and prepare and view my (html) class notes. So I do have something to lose. Hopefully someone will give us some help; this group is very good for that. allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Hi, Does revdep-rebuild report something to rebuild ? Could try with previous version (of revdep-rebuild), check the ebuild. From my side new expat-2.0.1 on two machines, no big problems so far. But i check with check_linkage.rb script (from paludis). HTH. Rumen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] nfs, mount as the second time?
hi, Is it possible to mount nfs the as the second time? ie: nfs server, ip: 192.168.1.2, nfs opt, 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 (ro,no_root_squash,sync,no_subtree_check) nfs client1, ip: 192.168.1.11, nfs opt, 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 (rw,no_root_squash,sync,no_subtree_check) nfs client2, ip: 192.168.1.21 on client1: mount -t nfs 192.168.1.2:/opt/gentoo-ppc /opt/gentoo-ppc cp -av /opt/gentoo-ppc/etc /opt/gentoo-ppc-etc mount -o bind /opt/gentoo-ppc-etc /opt/gentoo-ppc/etc then on client2: mount -t nfs 192.168.1.11:/opt/gentoo-ppc /opt/gentoo-ppc after that I got this error message: mount: 192.168.1.11:/opt/gentoo-ppc failed, reason given by server: Permission denied client2 later will be a ppc development board, gentoo-ppc on nfs server is a gentoo root filesystem, but I need overwrite /etc (/etc/fstab) so I can have many developers like client1, we can share the same basic rootfs, but different /home, /tmp, /var, etc.. Is it possible to mount nfs in such manner? Thanks in advance! regards, Wang -- Wang, BaojunLanzhou University Distributed Embedded System Lab http://dslab.lzu.edu.cn School of Information Science and Engeneering[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tianshui South Road 222. Lanzhou 73 .P.R.China Tel:+86-931-8912025Fax:+86-931-8912022 pgppqplhv6yZ4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] expat troubles now gnome *very flakey*
Allan Gottlieb wrote: At Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:15:20 -0400 Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/13/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. Well, contrary to my expectations, my system (after emerge -uDNav world) exhibits every one of the problems that you had. At least you can take solace in the fact that you're not alone. I really need some gnome apps (especially gnucash for my checking acct and evolution for my schedule). I have plenty of data backups but no backup machine. A reinstall is possible, but of course painful. I could start emerge -e world I would just like some agreement that this is not likely to make things worse. Currently with emacs and firefox, I can read/send mail, and prepare and view my (html) class notes. So I do have something to lose. Hopefully someone will give us some help; this group is very good for that. allan My experience was similar to yours. I found that I had to turn off the option that saves your session when you log out, and then delete the file ~/.gnome2/session. After this, my new session would open up OK and the window manager would start working. I have no idea what is causing the problem, but it sure doesn't like something that is being written to the session file. Greg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] expat troubles now gnome *very flakey*
At Tue, 14 Aug 2007 05:49:20 +0300 Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On (13/08/07 22:32) Allan Gottlieb wrote: At Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:15:20 -0400 Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/13/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. Well, contrary to my expectations, my system (after emerge -uDNav world) exhibits every one of the problems that you had. At least you can take solace in the fact that you're not alone. I really need some gnome apps (especially gnucash for my checking acct and evolution for my schedule). I have plenty of data backups but no backup machine. A reinstall is possible, but of course painful. I could start emerge -e world I would just like some agreement that this is not likely to make things worse. Currently with emacs and firefox, I can read/send mail, and prepare and view my (html) class notes. So I do have something to lose. Hopefully someone will give us some help; this group is very good for that. allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Hi, Does revdep-rebuild report something to rebuild ? No. Revdep-rebuild is clean. Could try with previous version (of revdep-rebuild), check the ebuild. Was revdep-rebuild just upgraded? Do you have a particular version you thing I should use? From my side new expat-2.0.1 on two machines, no big problems so far. But i check with check_linkage.rb script (from paludis). I still use portage and don't want to switch while something is not working. thanks for the help. allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] sata cd/dvd/rw won't write
Hello, I got a sata CD/DVD burner that will not write cds or dvds: dmesg: scsi 2:0:0:0: CD-ROMPLEXTOR DVDR PX-755A 1.04 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 sr 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 40x/40x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray lshw: *-cdrom description: DVD writer product: DVDR PX-755A vendor: PLEXTOR physical id: 1 bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0.0.0 logical name: /dev/cdrom1 logical name: /dev/dvd1 logical name: /dev/sr0 version: 1.04 capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r configuration: ansiversion=5 status=open K3b give this message when trying to burn a cd Writing cancelled Unlocking drive Could not Unlock CD drive. etc/group is has the user in these groups: cdrw cdrom There is no dvd group at all. Setting is k3b all look fine. Ideas on getting this to work; what did I miss? Googling shows mostly old kernel patch issues... James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Internet bridge
Mateus Interciso wrote: I did used the ip_conntrack_sip module, and it didn't worked. Do you know how to give the ip addresses to the bridge, instead of the iface? Take a look at /etc/conf.d/net.example. It's in there. ;) Be lucky, Neil -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] expat troubles now gnome *very flakey*
At Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:27:09 -0700 Greg Bengeult [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan Gottlieb wrote: At Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:15:20 -0400 Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/13/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. Well, contrary to my expectations, my system (after emerge -uDNav world) exhibits every one of the problems that you had. At least you can take solace in the fact that you're not alone. I really need some gnome apps (especially gnucash for my checking acct and evolution for my schedule). I have plenty of data backups but no backup machine. A reinstall is possible, but of course painful. I could start emerge -e world I would just like some agreement that this is not likely to make things worse. Currently with emacs and firefox, I can read/send mail, and prepare and view my (html) class notes. So I do have something to lose. Hopefully someone will give us some help; this group is very good for that. allan My experience was similar to yours. I found that I had to turn off the option that saves your session when you log out, and then delete the file ~/.gnome2/session. After this, my new session would open up OK and the window manager would start working. I have no idea what is causing the problem, but it sure doesn't like something that is being written to the session file. Sadly that didn't help here. I deleted the session file and never saved session on logout. There is no session file and still gnome apps don't work except as root. thanks for the help, allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage annoyances
Three of my systems are having package management trouble. One of the systems does this after revdep-rebuild: All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1 have been masked. Please post the output of: eix sys-devel/gcc # eix sys-devel/gcc [D] sys-devel/gcc Available versions: (2.95) 2.95.3-r9 ~2.95.3-r10 (3.1) 3.1.1-r2 (3.2) **3.2.2 3.2.3-r4 (3.3) 3.3.2-r7 3.3.5-r1 3.3.5.20050130-r1 3.3.6 3.3.6-r1 (3.4) ~3.4.1-r3 3.4.4-r1 3.4.5 3.4.5-r1 ~3.4.6 3.4.6-r1 3.4.6-r2 (4.0) [M]~*4.0.3 [M]~*4.0.4 (4.1) [M]~4.1.0-r1 [M]4.1.1 [M]4.1.1-r1 [M]4.1.1-r3 [M]4.1.2 (4.2) [M]~4.2.0 {X altivec bootstrap boundschecking build d doc fortran gcj gtk hardened ip28 ip32r10k java mudflap multilib multislot n32 n64 nls nocxx nopie nossp objc objc++ objc-gc openmp static test vanilla} Installed versions: 3.3.6-r1(3.3)(14:15:16 02/23/07)(-altivec -bootstrap -boundschecking -build -doc -fortran -gcj -gtk hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -multilib -multislot -n32 -n64 -nls -nocxx -nopie -nossp -objc -test -vanilla) 3.4.6-r2(3.4)(18:12:38 03/15/07)(-altivec -bootstrap -boundschecking -build -d -doc -fortran -gcj -gtk hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -multilib -multislot -n32 -n64 -nls -nocxx -nopie -nossp -objc -test -vanilla) 4.1.1(4.1)(04:58:00 09/06/06)(-altivec -bootstrap -build -doc -fortran gcj gtk hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -mudflap -multilib -multislot -n32 -n64 -nls -nocxx -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla) Homepage:http://gcc.gnu.org/ Description: The GNU Compiler Collection. Includes C/C++, java compilers, pie+ssp extensions, Haj Ten Brugge runtime bounds checking [I] sys-devel/gcc-config Available versions: 1.3.13-r4 1.3.14 1.3.15-r1 1.3.16 **1.4.0 [M]~2.0.0_rc1 Installed versions: 1.3.16(09:14:29 05/05/07) Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org/ Description: Utility to configure the active toolchain compiler * sys-devel/gcc-nios2 Available versions: (nios2-elf-3.4) ~5.1 {multislot test} Homepage:http://gcc.gnu.org/ Description: Compiler for Nios2 targets Found 3 matches. and: ls -ld /etc/make.profile # ls -ld /etc/make.profile lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 56 Oct 1 2006 /etc/make.profile - /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.1/desktop but I don't know why it wants a masked version of gcc. Another system wants to unmerge a bunch of crucial stuff with --depclean, including: x11-base/xorg-x11 selected: 7.1 protected: none omitted: none x11-apps/xdm selected: 1.0.5 protected: none omitted: none Manually put both in: /var/lib/portage/world file (backup it, just in case). Seems you had virtual/x11 which pulled all dependencies, but not anymore. I don't understand why they weren't depended on by gdm and (for example) firefox which are in my world file. If I do a pretend emerge of xorg-x11 and xdm, it want to upgrade a bunch of packages but 'emerge -pDuN world' find nothing. I have this: # equery depends xorg-x11 [ Searching for packages depending on xorg-x11... ] virtual/x11-7.0-r2 (=x11-base/xorg-x11-7) The other system outputs a bunch of libtiff.la stuff about ImageMagick like: broken /usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.2.2/modules-Q16/filters/analyze.la (requires /usr/lib/libtiff.la) Do you have a tiff USE-flag set ? # eix imagemagick [I] media-gfx/imagemagick Available versions: 6.3.0.5 6.3.0.5-r1 6.3.3 ~6.3.4 6.3.4-r1 {X bzip2 doc fpx graphviz gs hdri jbig jpeg jpeg2k lcms mpeg nocxx openexr perl png q32 q8 tiff truetype wmf xml zlib} Installed versions: 6.3.4-r1(16:38:20 06/25/07)(-X bzip2 -doc -fpx -graphviz -gs -hdri -jbig jpeg -jpeg2k lcms -mpeg -nocxx -openexr perl png -q32 -q8 -tiff truetype -wmf xml zlib) Homepage:http://www.imagemagick.org/ Description: A collection of tools and libraries for many image formats - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] new gnome fails except for root
I updated to the new gnome. After battling the expat problem, I was able to get a clean emerge and an empty revdep-rebuild (with Bo's help). But gnome is broken on this system (others have reported similar problems). In my case basically all gnome apps, e.g. panel, gnucash, evolution, gnome-terminal, evince fail when a normal user logs in. With a root login, gnome-terminal fails, but panel, gnucash, evolution seem to work (didn't try evince as root). For a normal user gnome login, I use either a shell in emacs or go to a virtual terminal and start an xterm. In any case when I try to start a gnome app (e.g. gnucash), no output is produced, no window appears, but the app shows up in ps x. I would be very appreciative for any help. thanks in advance, allan gottlieb -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] expat troubles now gnome *very flakey*
Hi, On (13/08/07 23:59) Allan Gottlieb wrote: At Tue, 14 Aug 2007 05:49:20 +0300 Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On (13/08/07 22:32) Allan Gottlieb wrote: At Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:15:20 -0400 Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/13/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. Well, contrary to my expectations, my system (after emerge -uDNav world) exhibits every one of the problems that you had. At least you can take solace in the fact that you're not alone. I really need some gnome apps (especially gnucash for my checking acct and evolution for my schedule). I have plenty of data backups but no backup machine. A reinstall is possible, but of course painful. I could start emerge -e world I would just like some agreement that this is not likely to make things worse. Currently with emacs and firefox, I can read/send mail, and prepare and view my (html) class notes. So I do have something to lose. Hopefully someone will give us some help; this group is very good for that. allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Hi, Does revdep-rebuild report something to rebuild ? No. Revdep-rebuild is clean. Could try with previous version (of revdep-rebuild), check the ebuild. Was revdep-rebuild just upgraded? Do you have a particular version you thing I should use? This is the latest (testing) version of gentoolkit: pkg_postinst() { ... echo ewarn This version of gentoolkit contains a rewritten version of ewarn revdep-rebuild. If you encounter issues with the new version, ewarn The previous version can be found at: ewarn /usr/lib/gentoolkit/bin/revdep-rebuild ... So check with this previous version. From my side new expat-2.0.1 on two machines, no big problems so far. But i check with check_linkage.rb script (from paludis). I still use portage and don't want to switch while something is not working. Ok thanks for the help. allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] vim syntax hi-lighting - Added .X68 file extension
Can anyone explain or point out a link that describes the process of adding a file type extension for syntax high-lighting? I would like to configure vim to automatically recognize the .X68 file type as an assembly language program. TIA, Richard Broersma Jr. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage annoyances
Hi, On (13/08/07 21:50) Grant wrote: Three of my systems are having package management trouble. One of the systems does this after revdep-rebuild: All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1 have been masked. Please post the output of: eix sys-devel/gcc # eix sys-devel/gcc [D] sys-devel/gcc Available versions: (2.95) 2.95.3-r9 ~2.95.3-r10 (3.1) 3.1.1-r2 (3.2) **3.2.2 3.2.3-r4 (3.3) 3.3.2-r7 3.3.5-r1 3.3.5.20050130-r1 3.3.6 3.3.6-r1 (3.4) ~3.4.1-r3 3.4.4-r1 3.4.5 3.4.5-r1 ~3.4.6 3.4.6-r1 3.4.6-r2 (4.0) [M]~*4.0.3 [M]~*4.0.4 (4.1) [M]~4.1.0-r1 [M]4.1.1 [M]4.1.1-r1 [M]4.1.1-r3 [M]4.1.2 (4.2) [M]~4.2.0 {X altivec bootstrap boundschecking build d doc fortran gcj gtk hardened ip28 ip32r10k java mudflap multilib multislot n32 n64 nls nocxx nopie nossp objc objc++ objc-gc openmp static test vanilla} Installed versions: 3.3.6-r1(3.3)(14:15:16 02/23/07)(-altivec -bootstrap -boundschecking -build -doc -fortran -gcj -gtk hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -multilib -multislot -n32 -n64 -nls -nocxx -nopie -nossp -objc -test -vanilla) 3.4.6-r2(3.4)(18:12:38 03/15/07)(-altivec -bootstrap -boundschecking -build -d -doc -fortran -gcj -gtk hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -multilib -multislot -n32 -n64 -nls -nocxx -nopie -nossp -objc -test -vanilla) 4.1.1(4.1)(04:58:00 09/06/06)(-altivec -bootstrap -build -doc -fortran gcj gtk hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -mudflap -multilib -multislot -n32 -n64 -nls -nocxx -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla) Homepage:http://gcc.gnu.org/ Description: The GNU Compiler Collection. Includes C/C++, java compilers, pie+ssp extensions, Haj Ten Brugge runtime bounds checking [I] sys-devel/gcc-config Available versions: 1.3.13-r4 1.3.14 1.3.15-r1 1.3.16 **1.4.0 [M]~2.0.0_rc1 Installed versions: 1.3.16(09:14:29 05/05/07) Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org/ Description: Utility to configure the active toolchain compiler * sys-devel/gcc-nios2 Available versions: (nios2-elf-3.4) ~5.1 {multislot test} Homepage:http://gcc.gnu.org/ Description: Compiler for Nios2 targets Found 3 matches. and: ls -ld /etc/make.profile # ls -ld /etc/make.profile lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 56 Oct 1 2006 /etc/make.profile - /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.1/desktop Change to latest stable profile 2007.0/Desktop: rm /etc/make.profile #ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2007.0/desktop /etc/make.profile but I don't know why it wants a masked version of gcc. Another system wants to unmerge a bunch of crucial stuff with --depclean, including: x11-base/xorg-x11 selected: 7.1 protected: none omitted: none x11-apps/xdm selected: 1.0.5 protected: none omitted: none Manually put both in: /var/lib/portage/world file (backup it, just in case). Seems you had virtual/x11 which pulled all dependencies, but not anymore. I don't understand why they weren't depended on by gdm and (for example) firefox which are in my world file. If I do a pretend emerge of xorg-x11 and xdm, it want to upgrade a bunch of packages but 'emerge -pDuN world' find nothing. I have this: # equery depends xorg-x11 [ Searching for packages depending on xorg-x11... ] virtual/x11-7.0-r2 (=x11-base/xorg-x11-7) The other system outputs a bunch of libtiff.la stuff about ImageMagick like: broken /usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.2.2/modules-Q16/filters/analyze.la (requires /usr/lib/libtiff.la) Do you have a tiff USE-flag set ? # eix imagemagick [I] media-gfx/imagemagick Available versions: 6.3.0.5 6.3.0.5-r1 6.3.3 ~6.3.4 6.3.4-r1 {X bzip2 doc fpx graphviz gs hdri jbig jpeg jpeg2k lcms mpeg nocxx openexr perl png q32 q8 tiff truetype wmf xml zlib} Installed versions: 6.3.4-r1(16:38:20 06/25/07)(-X bzip2 -doc -fpx -graphviz -gs -hdri -jbig jpeg -jpeg2k lcms -mpeg -nocxx -openexr perl png -q32 -q8 -tiff truetype -wmf xml zlib) Homepage:http://www.imagemagick.org/ Description: A collection of tools and libraries for many image formats - Grant -- Try reinstalling 'imagemagick'check if 'media-libs/tiff' is installed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list HTH. Rumen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list