[gentoo-user] Re: [Fwd: Re: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-15 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:07:53 -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote: My concerns with this, other than my abilities, are: 1. Showing proper respect to the guy who pioneered the effort to date, and who may simply be out of town. (This disrespect would be alleviated if there was an

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:56:41 -0800, Grant wrote: Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like things being improved as quickly as possible. FreeBSD is supposed to be the closest relation, but

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:05:08 +0100, b.n. wrote: Florian Philipp ha scritto: Other things to improve? A better documentation on USE-flags. In my opinion every maintainer should provide as much information as possible on what exactly a USE-flag changes. At the moment it's the administrator's

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Florian Philipp
On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 18:13 -0600, Dale wrote: Florian Philipp wrote: Okay, here it goes: I think we could need a better support for binary packages. There was a thread in here a few months ago about how to offer binary packages for customers. As far as I remember the problem was

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Dale
Florian Philipp wrote: On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 18:13 -0600, Dale wrote: Florian Philipp wrote: Okay, here it goes: I think we could need a better support for binary packages. There was a thread in here a few months ago about how to offer binary packages for customers. As far as I

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Ralf Stephan
I love gentoo and can't settle for anything else. What can I do to make sure development doesn't stop? Let me in on that. What can I do too? Help out with bugfixing by submitting patches or even just confirming bugs and supplying needed details? Join testing teams? Join the Weekly News

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:44:55 -0600, Dale wrote: That is when you compile it on another machine then install it on the laptop. The -K option comes to mind here. Which is what I think the OP was talking about. If you install one of the *-bin packages from portage, you are protected by the

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 15 December 2007 03:35:51 Grant wrote: My ideas aren't really important unless they're everyone else's ideas too. What is it exactly you want to achieve by starting these pointless threads? -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:44:55 -0600, Dale wrote: That is when you compile it on another machine then install it on the laptop. The -K option comes to mind here. Which is what I think the OP was talking about. If you install one of the *-bin packages from

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Grant
That is when you compile it on another machine then install it on the laptop. The -K option comes to mind here. Which is what I think the OP was talking about. If you install one of the *-bin packages from portage, you are protected by the checksums in the ebuild digest.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DMZ on an vmware gentoo guest running on winXP host

2007-12-15 Thread Mick
On Friday 14 December 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would I likely be opening my lan up for some christmas shopping by having a gentoo guest on a WinXP host running as a DMZ machine? It would be pretty barebones with a IPTABLE setup for logging and tagging

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Grant
Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like things being improved as quickly as possible. FreeBSD is supposed to be the closest relation, but even that won't do. I don't think there is

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 15 December 2007 15:05:28 Grant wrote: Neil correctly translated my pseudo-English to what I actually meant. I don't want to make Portage binary based. I just want to make Portage's binary package support more conveniently usable on big networks. Even eclasses in the tree don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Fwd: Re: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-15 Thread Randy Barlow
Hans de Graaff wrote: A possible solution would be for you (or someone) to become a proxy maintainer, meaning that you'd get the bug reports and provide new ebuilds, and a developer (most likely someone from the backup herd) would review it and put it in the tree. Hi Hans, thanks for the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Network Trouble

2007-12-15 Thread Mick
On Saturday 15 December 2007, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: On Dec 14, 2007 3:46 PM, Kenneth Prugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you using the sky2 driver for your NIC by chance? Nope, I've tried a tulip and a 3COM NIC. Pretty run-of-the-mill. :-) Since you seem to have checked that the problem is

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Randy Barlow
Florian Philipp wrote: Maybe his/her laptop doesn't stand the thermal output of its CPU when emerging or maybe he/she's the administrator of a large company's network, trying to move every computer system to Gentoo. Check out distccd! -- Randy Barlow http://electronsweatshop.com -- [EMAIL

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Fwd: Re: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-15 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Saturday 15 December 2007, Randy Barlow wrote: One of the challenging things about the BackupPC ebuild is that the program needs to be configured to work with its own instance of apache (run as user backuppc), and I think none of the ebuild contributors are all too sure of the standard

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Fwd: Re: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-15 Thread Randy Barlow
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: (Apologies if this has already been mentioned) Another (maybe less intrusive, although slightly less efficient) option is to install the BackupPC_Admin CGI as setuid so that it runs as user backuppc (this is how I run BackupPC-2.1.2-r1). This does not require a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Fwd: Re: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-15 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Saturday 15 December 2007, Randy Barlow wrote: Yes, I am aware of that. The BackupPC ebuild should support either way, as there is a speedup of about 15x (according to the BackupPC author) when running the webserver as user backuppc. There should be a USE variable controlling this.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Fwd: Re: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-15 Thread Randy Barlow
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: Ah ok, I just thought it would be easier, to get things going and catch up with upstream, to release an ebuild that only supports the suid mode of operation, and then, taking the necessary time, improve it in future releases, rather than supporting all the features

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Grant
So, what would need to happen for one of these projects to take off would be one or more people to be in charge of it and organize it, and they recruit as many people as possible to work on the project along with them? The real blocker for features that I'd like Gentoo to support is

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Grant
The real blocker for features that I'd like Gentoo to support is Portage. There is only 1½ people working on it and changing anything in it is hard because Portage is a horrible mess. There's plenty of activity in the tree but new desired features cannot be used in the tree until Portage

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread James
Grant emailgrant at gmail.com writes: Multiple great ideas have already been suggested in this thread. Is this the first time they've been conceived and shared? Why hasn't work begun on them? Why isn't work completed on them? Because living costs money and Gentoo doesn't pay. I've been

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Fwd: Re: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-15 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Saturday 15 December 2007, Randy Barlow wrote: Yeah, that's the kinds of differences of opinion that are in the bug report, which is part of what makes this a more difficult ebuild to write. Things like libraries are really easy because it's just a configure make make install, but here

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread James
b.n. brullonulla at gmail.com writes: I offered to take over the maintenance of the package and web installation page, and was turned down (probable by some punk under the age of 20) Sad. Can you link the thread? I think that would be counter productive. It's the 'culture of gentoo'

[gentoo-user] Re: DMZ on an vmware gentoo guest running on winXP host

2007-12-15 Thread reader
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Friday 14 December 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would I likely be opening my lan up for some christmas shopping by having a gentoo guest on a WinXP host running as a DMZ machine? It would be pretty barebones with a IPTABLE

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DMZ on an vmware gentoo guest running on winXP host

2007-12-15 Thread Randy Barlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean if you connect it to any machine in the diagram or elsewhere wouldn't you be exposing that machine to the unfiltered internet? I think that's the idea here - to see the difference between the two sides of the router. As far as getting that data safely in a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Fwd: Re: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-15 Thread Randy Barlow
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: (btw, do gentoo initscripts support starting multiple instances of a daemon, perhaps under different users and using different parameters? I'd not bet on it, but I may be wrong. If it's not supported, waiting for baselayout to support this may take a long time, so it

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel schedulers

2007-12-15 Thread forgottenwizard
On 15:27 Thu 13 Dec , Jason Carson wrote: Greetings, Where in the kernel config (make menuconfig) do I find the choice for schedulers. The one I am currently using is Anticipatory. What is the newest and latest scheduler for 2.6.23? Regards, Jason Carson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[gentoo-user] Re: DMZ on an vmware gentoo guest running on winXP host

2007-12-15 Thread reader
Randy Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean if you connect it to any machine in the diagram or elsewhere wouldn't you be exposing that machine to the unfiltered internet? I think that's the idea here - to see the difference between the two sides of the router.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:41:21 -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: Maybe his/her laptop doesn't stand the thermal output of its CPU when emerging or maybe he/she's the administrator of a large company's network, trying to move every computer system to Gentoo. Check out distccd! How does that

[gentoo-user] emerging mythtv? permission denied...

2007-12-15 Thread Alexander Puchmayr
Hi there! I just tried to upgrade my mythtv installation, but the ebuild fails in the unpack phase with a permission denied-error when accessing the svn-repository: Emerging (1 of 2) media-tv/mythtv-0.20.2_p14814 to / * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking auxfile

[gentoo-user] ipw in kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.22-gentoo-r9

2007-12-15 Thread Richard Watson
Hi - Can anyone give me pointers on how to get ipw2100-firmware working with kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.22-gentoo-r9? It works fine with kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.22-gentoo-r8 where it's compiled in the kernel but the same set-up fails in kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.22-gentoo-r9. When I run emerge

[gentoo-user] I don't understand what's happening with emerge gnupg

2007-12-15 Thread Walter Dnes
I just did an emerge --sync, and checked what was available for updateing... [m3000][root][~] emerge --ask --deep --update --world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gnuconfig-20070724 [20070118] [ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't understand what's happening with emerge gnupg

2007-12-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:55:43 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: - why didn't portage replace the old version itself? That's generally part of the update process. GnuPG is slotted, so 1.* and 2.* can be installed simultaneously. - once I manually unmerged gnupg, what brings it back? I did

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 07:48:12AM -0800, Grant wrote Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like things being improved as quickly as possible. One item (amongst many) that chased me away from

[gentoo-user] dd questions

2007-12-15 Thread maxim wexler
Hi group, I moved a partition(about 60G) from one drive to another, slightly larger, using: dd if=/dev/hdc4 of=/dev/hdc6 bs=32k When the operation completed this appeared: 904017 +1 records in 1904017 record out numbers which are precisely 999,999 apart. What is that all about? Followed by

Re: [gentoo-user] dd questions

2007-12-15 Thread Statux
[snip] Followed by this: display all 902 possibilities (y or n) y and the screen filled up with an alphabetical list of executable programs like ls, something-something.sh etc. Which is strange because it was /home and contained no files like that. This is what happens when you

Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

2007-12-15 Thread Jeff Cranmer
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 09:48:10 am Mick wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote: I believe that I have this enabled, however ieee80211 is still barfing out by asking for CONFIG_NET_RADIO. I'll check and confirm this tonight. Also check bugzilla. I remember reporting

Re: [gentoo-user] emerging mythtv? permission denied...

2007-12-15 Thread Randy Barlow
Alexander Puchmayr wrote: http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-20-fixes/mythtv svn: Can't open file '.svn/lock': Permission denied Speaking out of ignorance here, but I wonder if .svn/lock is a file on your local machine, or if it's on the svn server? I know nothing about svn, other

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Randy Barlow
Neil Bothwick wrote: Maybe his/her laptop doesn't stand the thermal output of its CPU when emerging or maybe he/she's the administrator of a large company's network, trying to move every computer system to Gentoo. Check out distccd! How does that help? Either every machine on the network