Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf

2009-02-09 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote: On 9 Feb 2009, at 07:42, Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: ... strol...@hex ~ $ sudo mount -v -L boot /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw,noatime) strol...@hex ~ $ ... You may have done this but just in case, you did use the tools to set the label on the drive right?

Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf

2009-02-09 Thread Stroller
On 9 Feb 2009, at 07:56, Stroller wrote: ... You may have done this but just in case, you did use the tools to set the label on the drive right? tune2fs does it for ext2 and ext3. I'm not sure about ext4. Good question! I thought for a moment that the above demonstrated that I had done

Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf

2009-02-09 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote: On 9 Feb 2009, at 07:56, Stroller wrote: ... You may have done this but just in case, you did use the tools to set the label on the drive right? tune2fs does it for ext2 and ext3. I'm not sure about ext4. Good question! I thought for a moment that the above demonstrated

[gentoo-user] Segfaulting cryptsetup in init

2009-02-09 Thread Johan Blåbäck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, I'm setting up this old computer of mine and why not encrypt it. I have done this on several computers before, but never have I gotten these kind of errors. When booting, cryptsetup segfaults. I can find no obvious reason why, I have tried to

Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf

2009-02-09 Thread Stroller
On 9 Feb 2009, at 08:02, Dale wrote: ... r...@sysresccd /root % mount -v -L root /mnt/gentoo mount: you didn't specify a filesystem type for /dev/sda6 I will try type ext4 /dev/sda6 on /mnt/gentoo type ext4 (rw) r...@sysresccd /root % Since ext4 is new and I have no experience with

Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf

2009-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:26:38 +, Stroller wrote: I can find numerous references to this syntax going back to 2005 or so, and some major distros seem to use it as the default way of describing root= to the kernel. It would appear that you need an initrd/initramfs to use this.

Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf

2009-02-09 Thread Stroller
On 9 Feb 2009, at 09:18, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:26:38 +, Stroller wrote: I can find numerous references to this syntax going back to 2005 or so, and some major distros seem to use it as the default way of describing root= to the kernel. It would appear that you need

Re: [gentoo-user] media-video/gspcav1 or kernel module?

2009-02-09 Thread Robin Atwood
On Sunday 08 Feb 2009, Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi all, I recently upgraded from 2.6.26 to 2.6.28. My el-cheapo webcam (lsusb: 0c45:602c Microdia Clas Ohlson TWC-30XOP WebCam) used the media-video/gspcav1 driver, but that no longer compiles:

Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf

2009-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:28:42 +, Stroller wrote: I bow to your vastly superior Google-Fu. Not really, I just hit the same problem as you a while ago, and came up with the same solution. -- Neil Bothwick Adolescence, n.: The stage between puberty and adultery. signature.asc Description:

Re: [gentoo-user] Time keeper app for KDE 4.2

2009-02-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 08 Februar 2009, Hung Dang wrote: Hi all I know that there is an option in GNOME which allows the computer keyboard, mouse and screen to freeze for a certain time for example 3 minutes for each hour. I wonder if there is something similar in KDE? FREEZE? sounds stupid, but:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard disk power save

2009-02-09 Thread Danis Petkakis
2009/2/9 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 01:37:00 +, Stroller wrote: ok thank you for your response...will do as suggested... The suggestion was not to top-post... He was replying to one of my messages, and I did not suggest that. No, although the response

Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf

2009-02-09 Thread Michael Hampicke
It would appear that you need an initrd/initramfs to use this. Ah! Many thanks. I will live without this shortcut, then, I think. If you, like me, prefere to compile your own kernel, there's still an easy way to create a initrd for your kernel: with genkernel I use this command to compile

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard disk power save

2009-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:25:07 +0200, Danis Petkakis wrote: indeed i did not understand the first suggestion about top-posting and did not know about this rule...it is the first time i'm taking part in a list so i will try to behave with the rules of it and not make any difficulties so i can

Re: [gentoo-user] Segfaulting cryptsetup in init

2009-02-09 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Johan Blåbäck (johan.bluecr...@gmail.com) [09.02.09 09:40]: hi, I'm setting up this old computer of mine and why not encrypt it. I have done this on several computers before, but never have I gotten these kind of errors. the other programs in the init seems to run as they should;

Re: [gentoo-user] media-video/gspcav1 or kernel module?

2009-02-09 Thread Linyin
I just backed out gspcav1 and compiled all the kernel drivers as modules and just plugged the webcam in; the kernel works out which ones to use. # lsmod | grep spca gspca 621584 0 gspca_zc3xx48320 0 gspca_main 22656 1 gspca_zc3xx compat_ioctl32

Re: [gentoo-user] media-video/gspcav1 or kernel module?

2009-02-09 Thread Michele Schiavo
media-libs/libv4l Il giorno lun, 09/02/2009 alle 19.53 +0800, Linyin ha scritto: I just backed out gspcav1 and compiled all the kernel drivers as modules and just plugged the webcam in; the kernel works out which ones to use. # lsmod | grep spca gspca 621584 0

[gentoo-user] Re: Permissions of /etc/sudoers

2009-02-09 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Stroller wrote: I install sudo, give my user wide sudo rights and then set PermitRootLogin no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. (Critique of this measure welcomed). Since Hung already answered about the other problem, I'll just comment on this. It's a bad idea if the machine is open to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Permissions of /etc/sudoers

2009-02-09 Thread Heiko Wundram
Am Montag 09 Februar 2009 13:37:31 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: Stroller wrote: I install sudo, give my user wide sudo rights and then set PermitRootLogin no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. (Critique of this measure welcomed). Since Hung already answered about the other problem, I'll just comment

[gentoo-user] Re: Permissions of /etc/sudoers

2009-02-09 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Heiko Wundram wrote: Am Montag 09 Februar 2009 13:37:31 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: Stroller wrote: I install sudo, give my user wide sudo rights and then set PermitRootLogin no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. (Critique of this measure welcomed). Since Hung already answered about the other problem,

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} xfce4 network management?

2009-02-09 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 02:58:13PM -0800, Grant wrote: /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf editing while traveling. Does There's also wpa_gui. Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Permissions of /etc/sudoers

2009-02-09 Thread Saphirus Sage
On Feb 9, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: Heiko Wundram wrote: Am Montag 09 Februar 2009 13:37:31 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: Stroller wrote: I install sudo, give my user wide sudo rights and then set PermitRootLogin no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. (Critique of this

[gentoo-user] Re: Permissions of /etc/sudoers

2009-02-09 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Saphirus Sage wrote: I'd just as soon leave the root account able to be logged in over SSH and remove password authentication in preference of a 2048-bit RSA key. Just use a script to add failed logins to a deny list. I tend to forget that this isn't Debian, so yeah, that'll work ;D

Re: [gentoo-user] Segfaulting cryptsetup in init

2009-02-09 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:39:24 +0100 Johan Blåbäck johan.bluecr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm setting up this old computer of mine and why not encrypt it. I have done this on several computers before, but never have I gotten these kind of errors. You'll get segfault if you're trying to do something

[gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation

2009-02-09 Thread Drew Tomlinson
I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and remember connections. Also, it's very easy to choose between low and high bandwidth connections with the Windows version. I've

Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation

2009-02-09 Thread David Negreira
Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and remember connections. Also, it's very easy to choose between low and high bandwidth connections with the

[gentoo-user] Re: Using portage through NFS

2009-02-09 Thread Chris Lieb
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:57:58 -0600, Chris Lieb wrote: I don't want to do UnionFS since that requires me to patch the kernel, which is more work than I have the time for. cd /usr/src/linux patch -p1 /path/to/patchfile You must be *really* short of time ;-) My concern

Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf

2009-02-09 Thread Stroller
On 9 Feb 2009, at 10:32, Michael Hampicke wrote: It would appear that you need an initrd/initramfs to use this. Ah! Many thanks. I will live without this shortcut, then, I think. If you, like me, prefere to compile your own kernel, there's still an easy way to create a initrd for your

Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation

2009-02-09 Thread Drew Tomlinson
David Negreira wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and remember connections. Also, it's very easy to choose between low and high

Re: [gentoo-user] mit kerberos running on Gentoo Linux

2009-02-09 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag, 9. Februar 2009 02:45:41 schrieb zhangwe...@realss.com: zhangwe...@esmeralda:~$ krsh emerson.realss.com usage: rlogin [ -8EL] [-e char] [ -l username ] host Should I complain to Gentoo packager or MIT or have problem of my own? Any chance krsh is an alias in your shell? The output

Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation

2009-02-09 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Drew Tomlinson d...@mykitchentable.net wrote: David Negreira wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and

Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation

2009-02-09 Thread David Negreira
Drew Tomlinson wrote: David Negreira wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and "remember" connections.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Permissions of /etc/sudoers

2009-02-09 Thread Stroller
On 9 Feb 2009, at 13:05, Heiko Wundram wrote: ... even when he gets access to one of your user accounts (who happen to be in group wheel), he still has to guess the root password (when doing su -) to be able to become root, and hopefully this buys you the time to see in your logs that

[gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2 Konsole Title

2009-02-09 Thread Chris Lieb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Chris Lieb wrote: I recently switched to KDE 4.2 (completely removed KDE 3.5.9 and emerge @kde-4.2) and fired up my system update script. I noticed right away that the title bar of Konsole did not update to show my

Re: [gentoo-user] Segfaulting cryptsetup in init

2009-02-09 Thread Johan Blåbäck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Kazantsev wrote: On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:39:24 +0100 Johan Blåbäck johan.bluecr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm setting up this old computer of mine and why not encrypt it. I have done this on several computers before, but never have I gotten these

[gentoo-user] Linux traffic shaper setup advice

2009-02-09 Thread Aleksey V. Kunitskiy
Hi Gentoo community, I have several computers at home and one Gentoo-powered router. I want to setup a very simple traffic shaper that will give each computer almost equal(the best choice - with some weight coefficient on each ip address) speed, without counting number of connections and etc.

Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf

2009-02-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 09 February 2009 18:51:24 Stroller wrote: On 9 Feb 2009, at 10:32, Michael Hampicke wrote: It would appear that you need an initrd/initramfs to use this. Ah! Many thanks. I will live without this shortcut, then, I think. If you, like me, prefere to compile your own kernel,

Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation

2009-02-09 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 10:56:36AM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Drew Tomlinson d...@mykitchentable.net wrote: David Negreira wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on

Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation

2009-02-09 Thread Aaron Clark
Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and remember connections. Also, it's very easy to choose between low and high bandwidth connections with the

Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf

2009-02-09 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag, 9. Februar 2009 17:51:24 schrieb Stroller: I don't like initrd and the longer kernel   lines in grub.conf that they require. Errh, which longer lines in grub.conf? Here's mine, as an example: title=Gentoo Linux kernel /vmlinux.gz realroot=/dev/evms/root vga=0x31B notsc

Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation

2009-02-09 Thread Hung Dang
Drew Tomlinson wrote: David Negreira wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and remember connections. Also, it's very easy to

[gentoo-user] ALSA config problem

2009-02-09 Thread James
Quandry: (2) ALSA drivers exist. No matter what kernel choices I make I either get 2 different ALSA devices, or none. The mobo has an Nvidia chip, the video card has a ATI video chip, both only work under the Intel HDA driver. These are compiled into the kernel, not loadable modules. I'm going

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Sendmail and Comcast

2009-02-09 Thread Mick
On Sunday 08 February 2009, Harry Putnam wrote: I'm including this on the list since I think there will be others who may find it useful. Someone is bound to need it sooner or later, but it was not strictly speaking gentoo-user M/L material so I posted it as off topic. cat

Re: [gentoo-user] Segfaulting cryptsetup in init

2009-02-09 Thread Johan Blåbäck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johan Blåbäck wrote: hi, I'm setting up this old computer of mine and why not encrypt it. I have done this on several computers before, but never have I gotten these kind of errors. When booting, cryptsetup segfaults. I can find no obvious

[gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2 Konsole Title

2009-02-09 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Chris Lieb wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Chris Lieb wrote: [...] In Konsole under KDE 3.5.9, the title bar would always be controlled by the script that was running. Is this supposed to happen in KDE 4.2, or is this a bug? In the profile of Konsole you're using, in the Tabs tab, edit the

[gentoo-user] Re: Permissions of /etc/sudoers

2009-02-09 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Stroller wrote: On 9 Feb 2009, at 13:05, Heiko Wundram wrote: ... even when he gets access to one of your user accounts (who happen to be in group wheel), he still has to guess the root password (when doing su -) to be able to become root, and hopefully this buys you the time to see in your

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA config problem

2009-02-09 Thread Naga
On Monday 09 February 2009 19:13:32 James wrote: [...] The mobo has an Nvidia chip, the video card has a ATI video chip, both only work under the Intel HDA driver. These are compiled into the kernel, not loadable modules. I'm going bald googling trying to find out what to do, or how to fix?

Re: [gentoo-user] Segfaulting cryptsetup in init

2009-02-09 Thread Johan Blåbäck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johan Blåbäck wrote: Johan Blåbäck wrote: hi, I'm setting up this old computer of mine and why not encrypt it. I have done this on several computers before, but never have I gotten these kind of errors. When booting, cryptsetup segfaults. I

[gentoo-user] Re: ALSA config problem

2009-02-09 Thread James
Naga nagatoro at gmail.com writes: In the 2.6.28 kernel alsa is broken for hda-intel. Either use 2.6.27 series kernel or use a live alsa ebuild. Makes sense, but, it's does not work for *26 or *27 kernels: Linux sliver 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 #12 SMP Mon Feb 9 13:04:18 EST 2009 x86_64 AMD

Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation

2009-02-09 Thread Roy Wright
Drew Tomlinson wrote: I've installed the TightVNC viewer on my Gentoo box and it does not appear to have any of these features. I'm looking for recommendations. Under KDE, there's krdc. Supports VNC and you can bookmark connections. I'll second freenx, assuming you have control of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ALSA config problem

2009-02-09 Thread Roy Wright
James wrote: Naga nagatoro at gmail.com writes: In the 2.6.28 kernel alsa is broken for hda-intel. Either use 2.6.27 series kernel or use a live alsa ebuild. Makes sense, but, it's does not work for *26 or *27 kernels: Linux sliver 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 #12 SMP Mon Feb 9 13:04:18 EST 2009

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash Drive Install

2009-02-09 Thread sean
James wrote: If you come up with more/better tips, post back to the thread. goodluck, James I did come across this site, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ and tried out the Gentoo install using Windows. Amazingly easy. On bootup it is asking for a login and password, I do not know

Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation

2009-02-09 Thread Drew Tomlinson
Aaron Clark wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and remember connections. Also, it's very easy to choose between low and high bandwidth

Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf

2009-02-09 Thread Stroller
On 9 Feb 2009, at 18:03, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag, 9. Februar 2009 17:51:24 schrieb Stroller: I don't like initrd and the longer kernel lines in grub.conf that they require. Errh, which longer lines in grub.conf? Here's mine, as an example: title=Gentoo Linux kernel

[gentoo-user] Re: ALSA config problem

2009-02-09 Thread James
Roy Wright roy at wright.org writes: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/alsa/ALSA-Configuration.txt Yep got these. They do seem to be dated, in light of the recent kernel changes related to audio? On my new install using 2.6.28-gentoo-r1,

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} xfce4 network management?

2009-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:55:54 +0100, Momesso Andrea wrote: Is it possbible with wicd to manage pppoe connections when a certain wireless network is conntected? And what about gprs connections over my bluetooth phone? (actually I use ppp over rfcomm in my /etc/conf.d/net) Not yet, it

[gentoo-user] Generic kernel: hardware and loading the right modules

2009-02-09 Thread Kobboi
I've asked this on IRC and the forums, but I'm not getting any further. Maybe I'm asking the wrong question or misunderstanding the few replies I get, but allow me to pose my question on the mailing list as well. Over the last few years, I have been compiling kernels for well-defined sets of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Using portage through NFS

2009-02-09 Thread Roy Wright
Chris Lieb wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:57:58 -0600, Chris Lieb wrote: I don't want to do UnionFS since that requires me to patch the kernel, which is more work than I have the time for. cd /usr/src/linux patch -p1 /path/to/patchfile You must be *really* short of time

[gentoo-user] The Linux Ecosystem (with funny references to Gentoo vs Canonical)

2009-02-09 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
http://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1069 I found it quite interesting that even Gentoo beat Canonical in the amount of patches contributed upstream...

Re: [gentoo-user] Segfaulting cryptsetup in init

2009-02-09 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:50:04 +0100 Johan Blåbäck johan.bluecr...@gmail.com wrote: I had noticed this problem w/ my laptop where some usbdevices dont show up until a few seconds later than when the init is running. So I added a 'sleep 10' to the init, and what I got was - - 10 s sleep - -

[gentoo-user] seamonkey helper apps

2009-02-09 Thread James
Hello, I use to listen to my voice mail, via mplayer and seamonkey. I setup mplayer to play voice-message.wav and it (use to) worked beautifully. Now I cannot get it to work. Any suggestion as to a simple app. I can set up as a helper application in seamonkey to play .wav files? The file

Re: [gentoo-user] The Linux Ecosystem (with funny references to Gentoo vs Canonical)

2009-02-09 Thread Saphirus Sage
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1069 I found it quite interesting that even Gentoo beat Canonical in the amount of patches contributed upstream... Good find, I actually didn't know about E-Trade using Gentoo servers. I don't think it should be too surprising

Re: [gentoo-user] The Linux Ecosystem (with funny references to Gentoo vs Canonical)

2009-02-09 Thread Joshua D Doll
Saphirus Sage wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1069 I found it quite interesting that even Gentoo beat Canonical in the amount of patches contributed upstream... Good find, I actually didn't know about E-Trade using Gentoo servers. I don't think

Re: [gentoo-user] The Linux Ecosystem (with funny references to Gentoo vs Canonical)

2009-02-09 Thread Emil Jensen
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Joshua D Doll joshua.d...@gmail.com wrote: Saphirus Sage wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1069 I found it quite interesting that even Gentoo beat Canonical in the amount of patches contributed upstream... Good

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA config problem

2009-02-09 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Naga (nagat...@gmail.com) [09.02.09 19:35]: In the 2.6.28 kernel alsa is broken for hda-intel. Either use 2.6.27 series kernel or use a live alsa ebuild. Why can I listen to music and watch DVD with my hda-intel, if it's broken? /Regards Naga Curious Sebastian -- Religion ist

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.2 compile problem

2009-02-09 Thread Dirk Uys
After some more struggling I managed to get kde-base/systemsettings compiled: If I unmerge x11-libs/libxkbfile and then emerge systemsettings, it compiles fine (without support for the xkb settings). After that I did an emerge -DuvaN world and this pulls in libxkbfile again. But when I try to