[gentoo-user] Questions about X warnings/errors

2009-06-13 Thread Walter Dnes

  Here's the video card as per lspci -vv
==
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]
(rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- 
TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx-
Latency: 64 (2000ns min), Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 21
Region 0: Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Region 1: I/O ports at cc00 [size=256]
Region 2: Memory at fdef (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
[virtual] Expansion ROM at fde0 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA 
PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
==
  At bootup, I get the following (saved in dmesg)
mtrr: your CPUs had inconsistent fixed MTRR settings
mtrr: probably your BIOS does not setup all CPUs.
mtrr: corrected configuration.

and I get the following in the X log file.  Can I ignore it?

(WW) RADEON(0): DRI init changed memory map, adjusting ...
(WW) RADEON(0):   MC_FB_LOCATION  was: 0xd7ffd000 is: 0xd7ffd000
(WW) RADEON(0):   MC_AGP_LOCATION was: 0xffc0 is: 0xffc0
==



==
  The following appears in the X log...

(II) LoadModule: freetype

(WW) Warning, couldn't open module freetype
(II) UnloadModule: freetype
(EE) Failed to load module freetype (module does not exist, 0)
==



==
  Due to bad experiences with fglrx, I'm using the open source ATI
drivers.  I get the following in the X log...

(EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so failed 
(/usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or 
directory)
(EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
==



==
  In xorg.conf, I've commented out all fontpaths except...

FontPath   /usr/share/fonts/misc/
FontPath   /usr/share/fonts/Type1/
FontPath   /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/
FontPath   /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/

...but the log still shows...

(WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/OTF does not exist.
  Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to:
  /usr/share/fonts/misc/,
  /usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
  /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/,
  /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/,
  /usr/share/fonts/misc/,
  /usr/share/fonts/TTF/,
  /usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
  /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/,
  /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/,
  built-ins
==

  Any comments/suggestions?


-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org



Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about X warnings/errors

2009-06-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 13 Juni 2009, Walter Dnes wrote:
   Here's the video card as per lspci -vv
 ==
 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200
 PRO] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
 Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]
 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
 Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr-
 DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Latency: 64
 (2000ns min), Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
 Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 21
 Region 0: Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
 Region 1: I/O ports at cc00 [size=256]
 Region 2: Memory at fdef (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
 [virtual] Expansion ROM at fde0 [disabled] [size=128K]
 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
 PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
 ==
   At bootup, I get the following (saved in dmesg)
 mtrr: your CPUs had inconsistent fixed MTRR settings
 mtrr: probably your BIOS does not setup all CPUs.
 mtrr: corrected configuration.

 and I get the following in the X log file.  Can I ignore it?

 (WW) RADEON(0): DRI init changed memory map, adjusting ...
 (WW) RADEON(0):   MC_FB_LOCATION  was: 0xd7ffd000 is: 0xd7ffd000
 (WW) RADEON(0):   MC_AGP_LOCATION was: 0xffc0 is: 0xffc0
 ==

yes.



 ==
   The following appears in the X log...

 (II) LoadModule: freetype

 (WW) Warning, couldn't open module freetype
 (II) UnloadModule: freetype
 (EE) Failed to load module freetype (module does not exist, 0)
 ==

you can ignore that too. freetype is not needed.




 ==
   Due to bad experiences with fglrx, I'm using the open source ATI
 drivers.  I get the following in the X log...

 (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so failed
 (/usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
 directory) (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
 ==
you are missing a file. Try re-installing mesa.




 ==
   In xorg.conf, I've commented out all fontpaths except...

 FontPath   /usr/share/fonts/misc/
 FontPath   /usr/share/fonts/Type1/
 FontPath   /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/
 FontPath   /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/

 ...but the log still shows...

 (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/OTF does not exist.
   Entry deleted from font path.
 (**) FontPath set to:
   /usr/share/fonts/misc/,
   /usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
   /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/,
   /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/,
   /usr/share/fonts/misc/,
   /usr/share/fonts/TTF/,
   /usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
   /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/,
   /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/,
   built-ins
 ==

   Any comments/suggestions?

yeah. remove all font paths. They are not needed anymore.



Re: [gentoo-user] Prioritizing mpd

2009-06-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 June 2009 06:30:56 Mike Kazantsev wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:02:00 -0700

 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
  When I use the medium quality libsamplerate resampler with mpd, my CPU
  is around 15% and all is well.  When I try to use the best quality
  resampler, the CPU stays around 99% and the sound frequently falls
  apart.  Can I give mpd CPU priority?

 Yes, it's usually done via nice/renice commands:

   renice -n -10 -p `pgrep mpd`

 You can tune it's priority up to -20 (most real-time priority).

Don't be surprised if it doesn't do much though.

Nice values have always been little more than a hint in Unix systems, the 
kernel is free to do with it whatever it wants, including completely ignoring 
your hint.

To a large degree, Linux does exactly that - ignore the hint. It does have an 
effect, a small one, and usually much smaller than the user expects. Nice is 
an old, antiquated, obsolete and just plain mostly useless way to enforce 
scheduling, entirely unsuited to modern desktops. The better way is to select 
a scheduling algorithm that better suits your needs and let the kernel figure 
out how to give you what you want (it knows MUCH more about how to do it than 
you do).

Or perhaps the OP is using a buggy peice of code. CPU utilization is also a 
notoriously inaccurate metric that does not mean what people tend to think it 
means.

This information is not in the man pages. 
It's on lkml and in the code ;-)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other

2009-06-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 June 2009 01:54:45 Francisco Ares wrote:
 Thanks a lot!

It's not completely obvious from Dirk's post (what he said is completely 
accurate though), but kde-3.5.10 will not receive monolithic ebuilds (dev 
decision). If you want kde-3.5.10, there is only one way to do it -

Unmerge your existing kde monolithic packages
Rememerge the new kde split packages

There's a good migration guide at gentoo.org, called Migrating to KDE split 
ebuilds or some such. A quick search will find it for you.



 

 Francisco

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Dirk Heinrichs 
dirk.heinri...@online.dewrote:
  Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 22:45:49 schrieb Francisco Ares:
   And how do I tell if an ebuild is monolithic or not?
 
  The monolithic ones install larger parts of KDE, and usually have the
  same names as the original source packages offered at KDE.org.
 
  The split ebuilds, well, split those packages into their individual
  applications, so you have ebuilds for konqueror (which is also part of
  kdenetwork) or kmail (kdepim). In addition, there are the -meta
  ebuilds, which have the same name as the monolitic ones, but with -meta
  appended (kdepim-meta). Those usually install the same applications than
  monolithic ebuilds, but as split ebuilds.
 
  So, when you install kde, you get a complete KDE from monolithic ebuilds
  and
  when you install kde-meta, you get a complete KDE from split ebuilds.
 
  That's also the reason why they block each other. When you have kdepim
  installed, you already got kmail, so you shouldn't install kmail from the
  split ebuild again.
 
  HTH...
 
 Dirk

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 June 2009 22:24:29 Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
 Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 21:56:04 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
  There's a few guidlelines one can give (but only a few). The variables
  tend to be large than the amounts with guidelines though.
 
  /var/tmp/portage should be at least 1G on a modern system, 6G+ if
  building mozilla stuff and OOo is something you intend to do.

 BTW: OOo 3.1 seems to raise the bar to 8.5G.

So it's getting worse... I have 6.5G free in /var and rebuilt latest OOo 
recently. My USE for OOo is pretty restrictive though - no gnome, kde, mono

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-13 Thread Mick
On Saturday 13 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
 Yet another step reveals the locus of the problem here at least:
 (11) try to run 'klauncher' from CLI : must be started by Kdeinit;
 (12) restart in KDE, fix Krusader + Apwal ;
 (13) reboot  restart FB but without 'kdeinit ' in  ~/.xinitrc :
  Krusader 'open with' ok !

 So my problem seems to lie in starting 'kdeinit' without the KDE desktop.
 It will take another couple of reboots (tomorrow) to confirm this.
 Mick mb doing things a bit differently  his problem mb elsewhere.

I have rebooted a number of times (it's a laptop), always in xdm/fluxbox, but 
my Konqueror menus/kcontrol work fine now.  I do not have kdeinit in the 
fluxbox startup file.  Once I have booted up I will typically run {kgpg  
kmail} to check my mail and occasionally launch konqueror with {kfmclient 
openProfile webbrowsing}.  By that stage kdeinit will be running (when things 
are normal):

 6973 ?S  0:00 kgpg
 6976 ?Ss 0:00 kdeinit Running...  
 6982 ?S  0:00  \_ klauncher [kdeinit] --new-startup   
 7030 ?S  0:01  \_ kio_imap4 [kdeinit] imap /tmp/ksocket-michael/  
20306 ?S  0:00  \_ kio_file [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-michael/k  
21164 ?S  0:00  \_ kio_smtp [kdeinit] smtp /tmp/ksocket-michael/k  
 6980 ?S  0:00 dcopserver [kdeinit] --nosid --suicide  
 6984 ?S  0:01 kded [kdeinit] --new-startup
 6986 ?S  0:00 /usr/libexec/gam_server
 7018 ?Sl 0:29 kmail
20414 ?S  0:00  \_ aspell -a -S -B -Tutf8 --encoding=utf-8

When the 'lost menus' problem is there kfmclient will not run and konqueror 
will fail to launch.  Last time the menus were gone I realised that this was 
the case when I clicked on a link to open an attachment from within kmail - 
the save as/open with popup was void of any applications.  Unfortunately, I 
did not check at that time if kdeinit was running, but I would assume that it 
was otherwise would kde applications be able to run?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:56:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 /var/tmp/portage should be at least 1G on a modern system, 6G+ if
 building mozilla stuff and OOo is something you intend to do. 

IMO PORTAGE_TMPDIR should not be on such an important filesystem as /var.
Having system programs unable to function properly when they cannot write
to logfiles because you OOo emerge has filled the filesystem is not good.
A separate filesystem for this, using either ext2 or tmpfs is a safer, and
faster, option


-- 
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Happiness is merely the remission of pain.


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Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in fstab w/ lvm?

2009-06-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:47:50 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:

 You have only two choices, being an eee user myself, and having it
 upgraded to 2GB RAM, I choose the tempfs filesystem for /tmp (RAM)
 instead of keeping temporary files writen and deleted from my poor
 SSD. If you have low RAM, you can decide to leave it on the SSD and
 thus give more room for app data on RAM.

I use tmpfs for /tmp with a 1GB Eee, /tmp usage is usually small, less
than a MB. PORTAGE_TMPDIR, on the other hand getslots of writes, so I
have than on a cheap, replaceable SD card.


-- 
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Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is 100%.


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[gentoo-user] Considering launching into Gentoo

2009-06-13 Thread AG

Hello list

I am currently running Debian Squeeze and am considering the feasibility 
of switching to Gentoo due to several issues I am experiencing with a 
new machine with a SATA HDD and a TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653Z which refuses 
to play audio CDs and pre-recorded DVDs.


In any event, because I have loads of data on my /home partition, I'm 
curious about a few things, primarily what are the implications of 
dual-booting with Gentoo as my second OS, so that I can experience 
Gentoo without losing my data, etc.


How compatible are Gentoo and Debian in terms of using a shared /home 
directory - I am concerned about uid for the directory for instance 
which, if I changed it for Gentoo, may not work for Debian and vice versa.


Any thoughts/ suggestions?

Many thanks

AG



Re: [gentoo-user] Prioritizing mpd

2009-06-13 Thread Grant
 renice -20 -p `pgrep mpd`

 but my Athlon 2.2Ghz still can't handle it for more than a few
 seconds.  I don't have SMP enabled because of a bug in madwifi, and
 I'm hoping when I get that fixed I'll be able to run the best
 libsamplerate resampler.  Any other ideas for making this work?

 AFAIK resampling is expensive operation that's only necessary when your
 sound card can't handle native stream sample rate, furthermore, it's a
 lossy operation (degrading quality).

 So, I'd look for the answer to the question why mpd is doing it and
 why I allow it to do that?.
 For example, you might have enabled it to resample stream to 32 bits
 depth, while your built-in card can only handle 16 and the stream has
 also 16, so what happens is userspace-level conversion (with some loss
 of quality) to 32, loading your CPU, then this stream goes to alsa,
 and, provided that your card can't play this, driver or the card itself
 converts it back to 16.
 Note that the latter case would probably mean card offloads conversion
 to your CPU as well, so you'll get CPU load for both ways' conversion
 anyway, only reducing sound quality, no matter how good converters are.

 To avoid any processing, try disabling resampling in mpd, since it'll
 probably be done for you anyway, if necessary (you'll hear white
 noise otherwise).

 And you can pre-convert all the streams to any given samplerate, but
 note that you'll probably get far worse results if the target format
 isn't lossless (flac, ape), even if the source one is lossy, than with
 worst resampling.
 And you can get worse CPU/IO load with lossless format in the end,
 since it's harder to decode and the input data stream is much heavier
 than with lossy mp3s or oggs.

 --
 Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net

I'm upsampling my 16/44.1 files to 24/96 because it sounds much better
than letting the USB DAC do it.  This was actually recommended by the
manufacturer and it sounds much better.

Pre-converting sounds interesting.  I could convert all of my 16/44.1
files to 24/96 files?  That way the CPU wouldn't be stressed at
playback time.  How can I do that?  I use libsamplerate Best for
resampling.

- Grant



[gentoo-user] Re: Introduce Manual manipulation during an emerge

2009-06-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com writes:

 Is there a reason to use i486 stage3? I think an i686 one might have
 been available and a better hit if your system is/was set up as an i686
 before this? Well, not that it counts now, gotta go with what you have
 unpacked.

Looking at those stages again... it is not apparent in any way that I
should have gotten something besides x86.

I see there is an i686.  But apparently I was to slow to figure out
that I needed it.

Thanks ... I'm working thru the CHOST doc now.




[gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard handling weird... in 2.6.30?

2009-06-13 Thread walt

Paul Hartman wrote:


try this: Type some text, like
X and then hold left arrow. Your
cursor will move to the left until you release the key. Now try to
hold the right arrow after you've already been holding the left arrow.
It will start to move to the right. Previously, it would continue
moving to the right after you released the left arrow. Now, the
keyboard repeat STOPS once you release the PREVIOUS key. So, in other
words, the repeating of the right arrow is stopped when I release the
left arrow... which causes the cursor to stop, and causes me to become
aggravated. :P


Not very helpful, sorry, but I'm running the most recent 2.6.30 from
Linus and I don't see the same thing here.  I'm not running the gentoo
kernel, though, so things may not be comparable.

Have to say that I've never held down both arrow keys at the same time
before today.




[gentoo-user] Re: Considering launching into Gentoo

2009-06-13 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Saturday 13 June 2009, AG wrote:
 Hello list

 I am currently running Debian Squeeze and am considering the
 feasibility of switching to Gentoo due to several issues I am
 experiencing with a new machine with a SATA HDD and a TSSTcorp CDDVDW
 TS-H653Z which refuses to play audio CDs and pre-recorded DVDs.

 In any event, because I have loads of data on my /home partition, I'm
 curious about a few things, primarily what are the implications of
 dual-booting with Gentoo as my second OS, so that I can experience
 Gentoo without losing my data, etc.

 How compatible are Gentoo and Debian in terms of using a shared /home
 directory - I am concerned about uid for the directory for instance
 which, if I changed it for Gentoo, may not work for Debian and vice
 versa.

 Any thoughts/ suggestions?

 Many thanks

 AG

I had for a while a dual boot Gentoo-Debian. It is nothing to worry 
about.

The only two things I remember (it was mid 2005) are:

1) kmail repository is in a different subdir (~/.mail vs ~/Mail)
2) Openoffice folder had different naming as well

Those are not issues that are worked around with a couple of symlinks.

WRT UID/GID just make sure in advance the two OS uses the same.

Don't forget to make backup before starting your tests ;-)

Ciao
Francesco


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CEST 2009
Two 1GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processors, 4GB RAM, 4018.72 Bogomips Total
aemaeth



[gentoo-user] font missing

2009-06-13 Thread John P. Burkett
After doing emerge --depclean on an amd64 machine, I find that Emacs
no longer locates the font it previously used. The font I liked was
specified in my .emacs file with the line
(set-default-font 10x20).
Using the old .emacs file and doing emacs --debug-init now
produces an error message that starts as follows::

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error Font `10x20' is not defined)
  modify-frame-parameters(#frame em...@microway 0xf41280 ((font .
10x20)))
  set-default-font(10x20)
  eval-buffer(#buffer  *load* nil /home/john/.emacs nil t)  ;
Reading at buffer position 3345
  load-with-code-conversion(/home/john/.emacs /home/john/.emacs t t)
  load(~/.emacs t t)
  #[nil 

Doing xlsfonts -l 10x20 at the Gentoo prompt elicits this response:
DIR  MIN  MAX EXIST DFLT PROP ASC DESC NAME
--0  255  some0   23  155
-cronyx-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-200-75-75-c-100-koi8-r

Interpreting this as a translation of the nickname 10x20 into the long
name, I edited my .emacs file, replacing
(set-default-font 10x20)
with
(set-default-font
-cronyx-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-200-75-75-c-100-koi8-r)

With that change done, emacs starts without any error message. However,
the font is not quite the same as the old one. The old font had no
serifs except on the letters i and l, where they avoid confusion with
the number 1.  The new font has serifs on most letters and, to my eye,
looks unnecessarily cluttered.

With emacs running, I tried holding down the shift key and clicking the
left mouse button. That as expected brought up a font menu. Selecting
Misc 10x20 elicited the response Font not found.

Comparing the font paths on the computer with the missing 10x20 font and
on a computer with no font problem, I see the paths starting with
/usr/share/fonts/misc are identical.

Nonetheless there is a difference in the results from doing locate
10x20 on the two machines.  I can locate the following misc/10x20
fonts on the machine where Emacs works well but not on the machine where
Emacs does not work well:

/usr/share/fonts/misc/10x20.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/misc/10x20-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/misc/10x20-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/misc/10x20-ISO8859-3.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/misc/10x20-ISO8859-4.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/misc/10x20-ISO8859-5.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/misc/10x20-ISO8859-7.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/misc/10x20-ISO8859-8.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/misc/10x20-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/misc/10x20-ISO8859-10.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/misc/10x20-ISO8859-11.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/misc/10x20-ISO8859-13.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/misc/10x20-ISO8859-14.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/misc/10x20-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/misc/10x20-ISO8859-16.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/misc/10x20-KOI8-R.pcf.gz

Suggestions for recovering the old 10x20 font would be appreciated.

-John

-- 
John P. Burkett
Department of Economics
University of Rhode Island
Kingston, RI 02881-0808
USA

phone (401) 874-9195



[gentoo-user] Re: Considering launching into Gentoo

2009-06-13 Thread walt

AG wrote:

Hello list

I am currently running Debian Squeeze and am considering the feasibility
of switching to Gentoo due to several issues I am experiencing with a
new machine with a SATA HDD and a TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653Z which refuses
to play audio CDs and pre-recorded DVDs.


Well, I'm all for using gentoo because I despise the debian package system,
but that's just me.  Hardware problems like you describe are usually driver-
related or really are hardware problems, in my experience.

As it's a new machine it can be hard to separate hardware from driver problems
without, as you say, trying some different software.  The gold standard for
such trials usually involves Windows because the drivers are so widely tested
before the manufacturer releases them to the public.  Chances are you'll be
using the same drivers with gentoo as with debian.


In any event, because I have loads of data on my /home partition, I'm
curious about a few things, primarily what are the implications of
dual-booting with Gentoo as my second OS, so that I can experience
Gentoo without losing my data, etc.

How compatible are Gentoo and Debian in terms of using a shared /home
directory - I am concerned about uid for the directory for instance
which, if I changed it for Gentoo, may not work for Debian and vice versa.


That part is trivial.  You can either specify a desired UID when you create
your gentoo user, or go back later and change it with chown -R newuid:newgid.




[gentoo-user] set local kenel version

2009-06-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Setting a version to local kernel builds has been discussed here so
sorry to bang on it some more.

I found information here from a previous thread and kept one of the
answers but finding now that I don't really understand it.

Or am doing the proceedure wrong.

It was Neil B's post:

  From: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk
  Subject: Re: Append string on Kernel builds
  Newsgroups: gmane.linux.gentoo.user
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
  Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:11:22 +
  Message-ID: 20090120141122.46b83...@krikkit
  
  On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:43:56 -0600, rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
  
   I like to use that and put `-$MYHOST' as string.  I wondered if
   there is any way to set a numericly incrementing string.  Maybe
   some trick syntax that can go in that spot?
  
  cd /usr/src/linux
  echo -${MYHOST}- localversion1
  ln -s .version localversion2
  
  The build system adds the contents of any localversion* files it
  finds, and it also increments .version.


But when I try this I get only the $MYHOST part (in this case
host=reader) and not the increment.

So for linux-2.6.30-gentoo-r1

and in /usr/src/linux
 cat localverion1:
  _reader_

Cat .version:
  1
And the symlink
 ls -l localversion2
 lrwxrwxrwx [...] Jun 12 18:01 localversion2 - .version
I get this naming after a build:

  vimlinuz-2.6.30-gentoo-r1_reader_

No version gets appended.

I understood it should have also append the numeric version and
increment it each time I build that kernel.

Anyone see where I'm dorking this up?




Re: [gentoo-user] set local kenel version

2009-06-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 June 2009 16:27:48 Harry Putnam wrote:
 Setting a version to local kernel builds has been discussed here so
 sorry to bang on it some more.

 I found information here from a previous thread and kept one of the
 answers but finding now that I don't really understand it.

 Or am doing the proceedure wrong.

 It was Neil B's post:

   From: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk
   Subject: Re: Append string on Kernel builds
   Newsgroups: gmane.linux.gentoo.user
   To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
   Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:11:22 +
   Message-ID: 20090120141122.46b83...@krikkit

   On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:43:56 -0600, rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
I like to use that and put `-$MYHOST' as string.  I wondered if
there is any way to set a numericly incrementing string.  Maybe
some trick syntax that can go in that spot?

   cd /usr/src/linux
   echo -${MYHOST}- localversion1
   ln -s .version localversion2

   The build system adds the contents of any localversion* files it
   finds, and it also increments .version.


 But when I try this I get only the $MYHOST part (in this case
 host=reader) and not the increment.

 So for linux-2.6.30-gentoo-r1

 and in /usr/src/linux
  cat localverion1:
   _reader_

 Cat .version:
   1
 And the symlink
  ls -l localversion2
  lrwxrwxrwx [...] Jun 12 18:01 localversion2 - .version
 I get this naming after a build:

   vimlinuz-2.6.30-gentoo-r1_reader_

 No version gets appended.

 I understood it should have also append the numeric version and
 increment it each time I build that kernel.

 Anyone see where I'm dorking this up?

I only see two thing:

Did you set both

()  Local version - append to kernel release
[ ] Automatically append version information to the version string

In General setup?

Second, you appear to have used a file called localverion1 instead of 
localversion1

Is that a real mistake, or just a typo in your mail?


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard handling weird... in 2.6.30?

2009-06-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 9:00 AM, waltw41...@gmail.com wrote:
 Paul Hartman wrote:

 try this: Type some text, like
 X and then hold left arrow. Your
 cursor will move to the left until you release the key. Now try to
 hold the right arrow after you've already been holding the left arrow.
 It will start to move to the right. Previously, it would continue
 moving to the right after you released the left arrow. Now, the
 keyboard repeat STOPS once you release the PREVIOUS key. So, in other
 words, the repeating of the right arrow is stopped when I release the
 left arrow... which causes the cursor to stop, and causes me to become
 aggravated. :P

 Not very helpful, sorry, but I'm running the most recent 2.6.30 from
 Linus and I don't see the same thing here.  I'm not running the gentoo
 kernel, though, so things may not be comparable.

 Have to say that I've never held down both arrow keys at the same time
 before today.

Apparently I do it all the time and never realized it. It affects all
repeatable keys, not just the arrows, and it is driving me crazy. :)
Thanks for testing! I will keep searching...

I will also add that I am using a USB keyboard, in case it matters.



Re: [gentoo-user] Considering launching into Gentoo

2009-06-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 June 2009 15:02:26 AG wrote:
 Hello list

 I am currently running Debian Squeeze and am considering the feasibility
 of switching to Gentoo due to several issues I am experiencing with a
 new machine with a SATA HDD and a TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653Z which refuses
 to play audio CDs and pre-recorded DVDs.

 In any event, because I have loads of data on my /home partition, I'm
 curious about a few things, primarily what are the implications of
 dual-booting with Gentoo as my second OS, so that I can experience
 Gentoo without losing my data, etc.

You have to ensure that the config files you have in your home directory are 
compatible with both systems. If you have a directive in a file that works 
correctly on one version and causes catastrophic failures if used on another, 
you have to be sure you do not use the latter.

Luckily, this is exceptionally rare.
Unluckily, only a manual audit can find this out.
Luckily, we have this other grand idea called a backup :-) Just backup the dot 
files.

As for data files, no need to worry. They will be just fine.

 How compatible are Gentoo and Debian in terms of using a shared /home
 directory - I am concerned about uid for the directory for instance
 which, if I changed it for Gentoo, may not work for Debian and vice versa.

Both use the same GNU tools to do stuff. Just ensure that your UID is the same 
on both systems. useradd -u and usermod -u and chown -R are the tools 
you need to do it right and/or correct any mistakes afterwards

In short, you have to do something spectacularly stupid (or act like a 
clueless Windows user) or have monumental bad luck to actually successfully 
break stuff here.

You might want to read wizard screens on automated installers too and make 
sure you don't click the box that asks to 
create /home, delete and format it? (y/n)

It's not likely you will make this error. As a Debian user, it is normally 
safe to assume you can, in fact, read :-)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] install consistently fails to create work (sub)directory

2009-06-13 Thread Walt Rarus
I can't perform any successful emerges. An example output is:

 Emerging (1 of 1) sys-apps/portage-2.1.6.13
 * portage-2.1.6.13.patch.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-)  [ ok ]
 * portage-2.1.6.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-)   [ ok ]
 * checking ebuild checksums ;-)
 [ ok ]
 * checking auxfilechecksums ;-)
[ ok ]
 * checking miscfilechecksums ;-)
 [ ok ]
 cfg-update-1.8.2-r1: Checksum index is up-to-date ...
/usr/lib64/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 654: 15626 Illegal
instruction install -m${PORTAGE_WORKDIR_MODE:-0700} -d $
{WORKDIR}
 *
 * ERROR: sys-apps/portage-2.1.6.13 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line 2112:  Called ebuild_main
 *   ebuild.sh, line 2034:  Called dyn_unpack
 *   ebuild.sh, line  689:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *  install -m${PORTAGE_WORKDIR_MODE:-0700} -d $
{WORKDIR} || die Failed to create dir '${WORKDIR}'
 *  The die message:
 *   Failed to create dir '/var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/portage-2.1.6.13/
work'
 *
 * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
stack if relevant.
 * A complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/
portage-2.1.6.13/temp/build.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/sys-
apps/portage-2.1.6.13/temp/environment'.
 *

The last kernel log entry registers the failure [15626] shown in the
above output:

WALRUS ~ # cat /var/log/kernel/current | grep install
Jun 13 00:34:13 [kernel] install[12732] trap invalid opcode rip:40acd8
rsp:7fffaa8319d0 error:0
Jun 13 00:36:38 [kernel] install[13001] trap invalid opcode rip:40acd8
rsp:71ae8c90 error:0
Jun 13 00:49:45 [kernel] install[13347] trap invalid opcode rip:40acd8
rsp:7fffe38249d0 error:0
Jun 13 00:51:43 [kernel] install[13636] trap invalid opcode rip:40acd8
rsp:7fff535a2670 error:0
Jun 13 00:57:01 [kernel] install[13921] trap invalid opcode rip:40acd8
rsp:7fff36e98050 error:0
Jun 13 06:57:45 [kernel] Time: acpi_pm clocksource has been installed.
Jun 13 07:15:37 [kernel] install[5477] trap invalid opcode rip:40a93f
rsp:7fffdf45f0d8 error:0
Jun 13 07:58:55 [kernel] install[5969] trap invalid opcode rip:40a93f
rsp:7fff1834cf98 error:0
Jun 13 08:19:29 [kernel] install[6381] trap invalid opcode rip:40a93f
rsp:7fff8bdfa9a8 error:0
Jun 13 10:24:38 [kernel] install[15361] trap invalid opcode rip:40a93f
rsp:7fff9b352ef8 error:0
Jun 13 10:29:02 [kernel] install[15626] trap invalid opcode rip:40a93f
rsp:7fff83e2b9d8 error:0

I'm in way over my head here. Any help would be appreciated.

WALRUS ~ # emerge --info
Portage 2.1.6.13 (default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2,
glibc-2.8_p20080602-r1, 2.6.24-gentoo-r4 x86_64)
=
System uname: Linux-2.6.24-gentoo-r4-x86_64-AMD_Athlon-tm-
_64_X2_Dual_Core_Processor_4200+-with-glibc2.2.5
Timestamp of tree: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:15:01 +
app-shells/bash: 3.2_p39
dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7-r1, 2.1.7
dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r13, 2.5.4-r2
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
dev-util/cmake:  2.4.8
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1
sys-apps/sandbox:1.6-r2
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.63
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2,
1.10.2
sys-devel/binutils:  2.18-r3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.26
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.27-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64
CBUILD=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-march=athlon64 -O2 -pipe -msse3
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/
kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/config
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/env.d/
java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/
sandbox.d /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/language.dat.d /etc/texmf/
language.def.d /etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c /etc/udev/rules.d
CXXFLAGS=-march=athlon64 -O2 -pipe -msse3
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
FEATURES=ccache collision-protect distlocks fixpackages parallel-
fetch protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gentoo.osuosl.org/
ftp://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo
http://mirrors.acm.cs.rpi.edu/gentoo/
http://open-systems.ufl.edu/mirrors/gentoo
ftp://lug.mtu.edu/gentoo ftp://gentoo.cites.uiuc.edu/pub/gentoo/
http://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/gentoo/ 
LANG=en_US.utf8
LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1
LINGUAS=en en_US
MAKEOPTS=-j3
PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT=/
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --
compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --
exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/portage/local/layman/java-binary /usr/portage/
local/layman/sunrise /usr/portage/local/layman/java-overlay /usr/
portage/local/layman/lisp
SYNC=rsync://rsync21.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=X acl acpi alsa amd64 apache2 arts berkdb blas bluetooth branding
bzip2 cairo cdr cjk cli 

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 June 2009 11:33:56 Mick wrote:
 On Saturday 13 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
  Yet another step reveals the locus of the problem here at least:
  (11) try to run 'klauncher' from CLI : must be started by Kdeinit;
  (12) restart in KDE, fix Krusader + Apwal ;
  (13) reboot  restart FB but without 'kdeinit ' in  ~/.xinitrc :
   Krusader 'open with' ok !
 
  So my problem seems to lie in starting 'kdeinit' without the KDE desktop.
  It will take another couple of reboots (tomorrow) to confirm this.
  Mick mb doing things a bit differently  his problem mb elsewhere.

 I have rebooted a number of times (it's a laptop), always in xdm/fluxbox,
 but my Konqueror menus/kcontrol work fine now.  I do not have kdeinit in
 the fluxbox startup file.  Once I have booted up I will typically run {kgpg
  kmail} to check my mail and occasionally launch konqueror with
 {kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing}.  By that stage kdeinit will be running
 (when things are normal):

On the odd occasion when I run e17 these days, I run kcminit as step 1 after 
logging in.

I have no idea how this actually works, but it fixes odd errors like fonts, 
themes and IIRC once a weird menu problem (the details I forget).

Worth a try.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] Re: set local kenel version

2009-06-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes:

 So for linux-2.6.30-gentoo-r1

 and in /usr/src/linux
  cat localverion1:
   _reader_

 Cat .version:
   1
 And the symlink
  ls -l localversion2
  lrwxrwxrwx [...] Jun 12 18:01 localversion2 - .version
 I get this naming after a build:

   vimlinuz-2.6.30-gentoo-r1_reader_

 No version gets appended.

 I understood it should have also append the numeric version and
 increment it each time I build that kernel.

 Anyone see where I'm dorking this up?

 I only see two thing:

 Did you set both

 ()  Local version - append to kernel release

That one needs to be left blank right?  Else what ever you put there
will appear in kernel name and I'm using localversion files for that.

 [ ] Automatically append version information to the version string

This one is checked.

 In General setup?

 Second, you appear to have used a file called localverion1 instead of 
 localversion1

 Is that a real mistake, or just a typo in your mail?

Its a typo... I just checked to make sure though.. would have been nice if
a real missnaming was the problem.

ls -l  /usr/src/linux/localversion*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 Jun 12 18:01 /usr/src/linux/localversion1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Jun 12 18:01 /usr/src/linux/localversion2 - .version




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: set local kenel version

2009-06-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 June 2009 18:05:37 Harry Putnam wrote:
  Is that a real mistake, or just a typo in your mail?

 Its a typo... I just checked to make sure though.. would have been nice if
 a real missnaming was the problem.

 ls -l  /usr/src/linux/localversion*
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 Jun 12 18:01 /usr/src/linux/localversion1
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Jun 12 18:01 /usr/src/linux/localversion2 -
 .version

Pity - I was hoping you'd have an easy fix here :-)

localversion is a feature I never use, so I fear I won't be able to help you 
much further...


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Prioritizing mpd

2009-06-13 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:31:39 -0700
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pre-converting sounds interesting.  I could convert all of my 16/44.1
 files to 24/96 files?  That way the CPU wouldn't be stressed at
 playback time.  How can I do that?  I use libsamplerate Best for
 resampling.

Just use flac/lame/vorbis-tools, they have all the capabilities you
need.

  lame --decode /some/file.mp3 - | \
flac --bps=24 --sample-rate=96 - file.flac

  lame --decode /some/file.mp3 - | \
oggenc --resample 24000 -q 6 - -o file.ogg

  lame --resample 24 --preset standard /some/file.mp3 file.mp3

Try tweaking quality settings / listening to results in different
formats to pick the best one for you.
ogg and mp3 should result in some loss of sound quality, although it
might be insignificant while compression benefit over flac is quite
noticeable.

-- 
Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net


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[gentoo-user] Re: set local kenel version

2009-06-13 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 06/13/2009 05:27 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:

Setting a version to local kernel builds has been discussed here so
sorry to bang on it some more.

I found information here from a previous thread and kept one of the
answers but finding now that I don't really understand it.

Or am doing the proceedure wrong.

It was Neil B's post:
[...]
   cd /usr/src/linux
   echo -${MYHOST}-localversion1
   [...]

But when I try this I get only the $MYHOST part (in this case
host=reader) and not the increment.

So for linux-2.6.30-gentoo-r1

and in /usr/src/linux
  cat localverion1:
   _reader_


It doesn't seem you followed the instructions correctly.  I don't know 
if that's the cause of the problem, but the instructions said:


  echo -${MYHOST}-localversion1

but you seem to have used:

  echo _${MYHOST}_localversion1

instead.




[gentoo-user] Installing python packages for different versions

2009-06-13 Thread Florian Philipp
Hi!

This is actually a follow-up for my thread Trouble installing Plone.

Following scenario: I have packages which run on python-2.4 and other
packages which work with 2.5. Zope is a prominent example of the 2.4 gang.

The problem: When I emerge a python package, for example
dev-python/imaging, it is only installed in the
/usr/lib/python-2.*/site-packages directory of the python version which
is currently enabled by eselect.

Naturally, this is the most recent version: 2.5. However, as soon as a
python-2.4 package depends on one of these other packages, it just
doesn't work because it expects them in /usr/lib/python-2.4/site-packages.

How am I supposed to work around this?

My current workaround is to switch temporarily to python-2.4 and
re-emerge the necessary packages. However, this only works as long as
there are either 2.4-packages which depend on these re-emerged ones or
2.5-packages because portage purges the corresponding byte code in the
now disabled python directory.

Regards,

Florian Philipp



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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-13 Thread Mick
On Saturday 13 June 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Saturday 13 June 2009 11:33:56 Mick wrote:
  On Saturday 13 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
   Yet another step reveals the locus of the problem here at least:
   (11) try to run 'klauncher' from CLI : must be started by Kdeinit;
   (12) restart in KDE, fix Krusader + Apwal ;
   (13) reboot  restart FB but without 'kdeinit ' in  ~/.xinitrc :
Krusader 'open with' ok !
  
   So my problem seems to lie in starting 'kdeinit' without the KDE
   desktop. It will take another couple of reboots (tomorrow) to confirm
   this. Mick mb doing things a bit differently  his problem mb
   elsewhere.
 
  I have rebooted a number of times (it's a laptop), always in xdm/fluxbox,
  but my Konqueror menus/kcontrol work fine now.  I do not have kdeinit in
  the fluxbox startup file.  Once I have booted up I will typically run
  {kgpg  kmail} to check my mail and occasionally launch konqueror with
  {kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing}.  By that stage kdeinit will be
  running (when things are normal):

 On the odd occasion when I run e17 these days, I run kcminit as step 1
 after logging in.

 I have no idea how this actually works, but it fixes odd errors like fonts,
 themes and IIRC once a weird menu problem (the details I forget).

 Worth a try.

Thanks Alan, I will remember to try this next time the menus go sideways for 
me.

I can't recall if I mentioned it that running kbuildsycoca --noincremental 
only produced a result when I was logged in KDE/kdm *and* ran the command in 
konsole, but not in aterm ...
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-13 Thread Philip Webb
090613 Mick wrote:
 On Saturday 13 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
 Yet another step reveals the locus of the problem here at least:
 (11) try to run 'klauncher' from CLI : must be started by Kdeinit;
 (12) restart in KDE, fix Krusader + Apwal ;
 (13) reboot  restart FB but without 'kdeinit ' in  ~/.xinitrc :
  Krusader 'open with' ok !
 So my problem seems to lie in starting 'kdeinit' without the KDE desktop.
 It will take another couple of reboots (tomorrow) to confirm this.
 Mick mb doing things a bit differently  his problem mb elsewhere.
 I have rebooted a number of times (it's a laptop), always in xdm/fluxbox,
 but my Konqueror menus/kcontrol work fine now.
 I do not have kdeinit in the fluxbox startup file.

That means your problem is/was something else.
After a long sleep, I restarted the machine  Krusader's 'open with' is ok.
It looks as if the problem here is that if 'kdeinit' is started
without an existing desktop to relate to, some connection is not made.
As it makes no noticeable difference to start-up times,
I can easily do without having 'kdeinit ' in  ~/.xinitrc .

-- 
,,
SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
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[gentoo-user] Re: set local kenel version

2009-06-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes:

 On Saturday 13 June 2009 18:05:37 Harry Putnam wrote:
  Is that a real mistake, or just a typo in your mail?

 Its a typo... I just checked to make sure though.. would have been nice if
 a real missnaming was the problem.

 ls -l  /usr/src/linux/localversion*
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 Jun 12 18:01 /usr/src/linux/localversion1
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Jun 12 18:01 /usr/src/linux/localversion2 -
 .version

 Pity - I was hoping you'd have an easy fix here :-)

 localversion is a feature I never use, so I fear I won't be able to help you 
 much further...

You did already you made me look around better and finally
recompile to test once more and now it works.

Some kind of operator dimmness going on before I guess.




[gentoo-user] antlr compile error

2009-06-13 Thread Grant
I'm getting the following when trying to compile antlr.  I'm not sure
exactly where the error is.  Should I file a bug on this?


 make -C lib/python all

make[2]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/dev-java/antlr-2.7.7/work/antlr-2.7.7/lib/python'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/dev-java/antlr-2.7.7/work/antlr-2.7.7/lib/python'

 make -C lib/csharp all

make[2]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/dev-java/antlr-2.7.7/work/antlr-2.7.7/lib/csharp'

 make -C lib/csharp/antlr.astframe all

make[3]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/dev-java/antlr-2.7.7/work/antlr-2.7.7/lib/csharp/antlr.astframe'
make[4]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/dev-java/antlr-2.7.7/work/antlr-2.7.7/lib/csharp/antlr.runtime'
/usr/bin/mcs -nologo -t:library
-out:/var/tmp/portage/dev-java/antlr-2.7.7/work/antlr-2.7.7/lib/antlr.runtime.dll
-r:System.Windows.Forms.dll -r:System.Drawing.dll -r:System.dll
-d:APTC
/var/tmp/portage/dev-java/antlr-2.7.7/work/antlr-2.7.7/scripts/csc.sh:
line 253: 14662 Killed  $cmd ${ARGV}


   E R R O R 


/usr/bin/mcs -nologo -t:library
-out:/var/tmp/portage/dev-java/antlr-2.7.7/work/antlr-2.7.7/lib/antlr.runtime.dll
-r:System.Windows.Forms.dll -r:System.Drawing.dll -r:System.dll
-d:APTC [ file(s) skipped]

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: set local kenel version

2009-06-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 June 2009 20:13:06 Harry Putnam wrote:
 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes:
  On Saturday 13 June 2009 18:05:37 Harry Putnam wrote:
   Is that a real mistake, or just a typo in your mail?
 
  Its a typo... I just checked to make sure though.. would have been nice
  if a real missnaming was the problem.
 
  ls -l  /usr/src/linux/localversion*
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 Jun 12 18:01 /usr/src/linux/localversion1
  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Jun 12 18:01 /usr/src/linux/localversion2 -
  .version
 
  Pity - I was hoping you'd have an easy fix here :-)
 
  localversion is a feature I never use, so I fear I won't be able to help
  you much further...

 You did already you made me look around better and finally
 recompile to test once more and now it works.

 Some kind of operator dimmness going on before I guess.

:-)

That sounds awfully familiar, I wonder who do I know that does that all the 
time himself?

Oh wait, it's me :-)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] Re: Considering launching into Gentoo

2009-06-13 Thread walt

Alan McKinnon wrote:


...As a Debian user, it is normally
safe to assume you can, in fact, read :-)


Ah, maybe that explains why I despise their package manager.

When I was a Debian user I figured that the most basic of utilities
should be easy to use -- and I'm only half joking.

Just for fun I tried Ubuntu recently since it's been so popular the
last few years.  They built their system on top of a Debian base,
including my nemesis, the Debian package management system :o(

The Synaptics GUI front end for their package manager is a great deal
easier than the original back end, true, but the basic bad design of
the back end still glares through the eye candy.  (Just my opinion.)

I like gentoo's portage system so-o-o-o much better!





[gentoo-user] Acrobat reader problem

2009-06-13 Thread Peter Wood
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Hi,
I have just installed my first amd64 gentoo. I took the world file of
one of my x86 installs and did an emerge -e world. Now everythin seems
to work fine apart from acroread. There seems to be a font problem:
instead of the text normally displayed in the menubar, all I can see
here is black squares. My locale is UTF-8. My system info is listed
below. Any ideas?

Peter

Portage 2.1.6.13 (default/linux/amd64/2008.0, gcc-4.3.2,
glibc-2.8_p20080602-r1, 2.6.29-gentoo-r5 x86_64)
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System uname:
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Timestamp of tree: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:00:05 +
app-shells/bash: 3.2_p39
dev-java/java-config: 2.1.7
dev-lang/python: 2.5.4-r2
dev-util/cmake:  2.6.4
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1
sys-apps/sandbox:1.6-r2
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.63
sys-devel/automake:  1.5, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.2
sys-devel/binutils:  2.18-r3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.26
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/etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d
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/etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c /etc/udev/rules.d
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ftp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/gentoo-distfiles/
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Considering launching into Gentoo

2009-06-13 Thread bn
walt ha scritto:
 Ah, maybe that explains why I despise their package manager.
 
 When I was a Debian user I figured that the most basic of utilities
 should be easy to use -- and I'm only half joking.
 
 Just for fun I tried Ubuntu recently since it's been so popular the
 last few years.  They built their system on top of a Debian base,
 including my nemesis, the Debian package management system :o(
 
 The Synaptics GUI front end for their package manager is a great deal
 easier than the original back end, true, but the basic bad design of
 the back end still glares through the eye candy.  (Just my opinion.)
 
 I like gentoo's portage system so-o-o-o much better!

As a user of both Debian-based and Gentoo systems, I am curious to know
what do you find so annoying about apt-get.

Portage is more flexible probably, but apt-get, with an appropriate
frontend like Synaptics, is a piece of cake: in 99% of cases is click 
go. And surely it makes more sense to use than rpm, on the command line
(let alone the crazy Slackware guys :) )

m.



Re: [gentoo-user] Idle Process Scheduling

2009-06-13 Thread Sascha Hlusiak
Am Saturday 13 June 2009 07:46:34 schrieb Jason Lynch:
 I'm having a strange problem on my Q6600 that cropped up starting with
 the 2.6.29 series of the kernel, and is still present in 2.6.30.

 Essentially, at all times, I have four nice 19 processes running, which
 for the sake of this post, we'll call dnetc. All four cores are
 utilized. At this point, if I start another CPU-bound process that isn't
 niced, it begins to take up an entire core. This is expected. What isn't
 expected, however, is that another core begins idling inexplicably. As a
 result, despite 5 processes currently available to run, only 3 are
 actually running at any given time (the non-niced process, and two
 instances of dnetc).
How do you know how many processes are running? What does 'top' say about CPU 
usage and load? Maybe dnetc has two threads, which can each occupy a core, so 
you have still 4 threads that are running, in 3 processes. You still should 
get a load of 5 or higher.
You don't have a lot of IO load, do you?


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[gentoo-user] How to know the fonts inside various font packages

2009-06-13 Thread reader
How can user learn the exact fonts contained in the various font
package offered in portage without actually installing them?

Even after installing, unless you have something like xlsfonts
installed you still won't be able to tell.

equery files font-pkg

Gives a list of the files installed but the naming is way different
from what you see or need to use when assigning a specific to be used
in some app.

And of course using equery already means you've had to install the
font.

I want to find this information before installing a font package.

I ask because I'm building up a new install, trying mirror or nearly
so my previous install which was yrs in the making.

I looked under /var/db/pkg/media-fonts in backups from the previous
install and find no less than 38 font pkgs installed.

I don't as a rule use anything far out... I like fonts assigned to
emacs and xterm... thats about it.  And those are common ones like
 -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1

But on a fresh install that particular one is missing.  I'd like to
have been able to see what package it was in without installing
anything.

I've already gone ahead and installed some listed in the backup
mentioned and now have that one available but I'd like to know for
future reference if I can determine what fonts are in which packge
somehow.





[gentoo-user] Re: font missing

2009-06-13 Thread reader
John P. Burkett burk...@uri.edu writes:

 Suggestions for recovering the old 10x20 font would be appreciated.

I had the same problem but was able to view from an old backup of var
in a previous OS install what was installed.

It showed 38 packages I'd also like to know what specific fonts
are in which package.

But I just installed a few from the list.

This is a guess but I think it was 
  media-fonts/font-sony-misc that supplied the missing 10x20 and mine
was also missing 9x15.

Be warned that the above pkg is JUST a GUESS... since I installed
several pkgs and found no way to really tell what is in them.

Even equery files font-pkg doesn't tell you since the naming
apparently changes somewhere between files installed and actual fonts
available. 


The entire list I now have installed is listed below in case the guess
above is wrong.  One in that bunch has it.  Look in:

  /var/db/pkg/media-fonts to see what is already installed.  

Severl of those listed below will almost certainly be there.  So maybe
it will narrow it down for you a bit.

===
font-misc-meltho-1.0.0
font-sony-misc-1.0.0
font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.0
font-misc-misc-1.0.0
font-sun-misc-1.0.0
font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.0
font-mutt-misc-1.0.0
font-util-1.0.1
font-alias-1.0.1
font-schumacher-misc-1.0.0
gnu-gs-fonts-std-8.11




[gentoo-user] Re: set local kenel version

2009-06-13 Thread reader
rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 Just for you own info in case you ever want to do it not that
 wasn't why it didn't work.

Jesus... I'm getting more illiterate as time goes on.

Should say:

Just for [your] own info in case you ever want to do it... [No], that
wasn't why it didn' work.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: set local kenel version

2009-06-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:13:06 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:

 You did already you made me look around better and finally
 recompile to test once more and now it works.
 
 Some kind of operator dimmness going on before I guess.

.version isn't set until after the first make run, so it will show up as
blank the first time you compile a new kernel.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

The cow is nothing but a machine which makes grass fit for us people to
eat.


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[gentoo-user] Re: How to know the fonts inside various font packages

2009-06-13 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 06/14/2009 12:52 AM, rea...@newsguy.com wrote:

How can user learn the exact fonts contained in the various font
package offered in portage without actually installing them?


Either by visiting the homepage of the package, or by fetching it 
(emerge --fetchonly) and then examining the downloaded tarball (it's in 
/usr/portage/distfiles).


After installing, the names of the fonts are listed in a file called 
fonts.alias.  See for example /usr/share/fonts/misc/fonts.alias.





Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-13 Thread Philip Webb
090613 Philip Webb wrote:
 It looks as if the problem here is that if 'kdeinit' is started
 without an existing desktop to relate to, some connection is not made.

I've investigated further  can't find which file Krusader uses
to remember its file associations.  However, I did find the changelog
for 'kdelibs-3.5.10-r2', which says move kdeglobals to kdelibs
for non-KDE users using KDE apps, which looks like the crucial change.
Even so, there's nothing relevant in  ~/.kde3.5/share/config/kdeglobals .

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[gentoo-user] inkscape won't start

2009-06-13 Thread Michael P. Soulier
So, it used to work, but now I get this:

(inkscape:456): gtkmm-CRITICAL **:
voidunnamed::container_foreach_callback(GtkWidget*, void*): assertion
`widget != 0' failed

Emergency save activated!
Emergency save completed. Inkscape will close now.
If you can reproduce this crash, please file a bug at www.inkscape.org
with a detailed description of the steps leading to the crash, so we can fix
it

So I figure something needed is missing.

msoul...@anton:~$ revdep-rebuild --pretend
 * Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild

 * Checking reverse dependencies
 * Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package update
 * will be emerged.

 * Collecting system binaries and libraries
 * Generated new 1_files.rr
 * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH
 * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr
 * Checking dynamic linking consistency
[ 100% ] 

 * Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All done. 

Hmm. Not according to revdep-rebuild.

So, lets try to rebuild it.

msoul...@anton:~$ sudo emerge media-gfx/inkscape
Password: 
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/poppler-0.10.7  USE=abiword poppler-data 
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/poppler-glib-0.10.7  USE=cairo 
[uninstall] app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.5-r1 
[blocks b ] dev-libs/poppler (dev-libs/poppler is blocking
app-text/popple
r-bindings-0.10.5-r1, app-text/poppler-0.10.5-r1)
[blocks b ] app-text/poppler-bindings (app-text/poppler-bindings is
blocki
ng dev-libs/poppler-glib-0.10.7, dev-libs/poppler-0.10.7)
[blocks b ] dev-libs/poppler-glib (dev-libs/poppler-glib is blocking
app-t
ext/poppler-bindings-0.10.5-r1, app-text/poppler-0.10.5-r1)
[ebuild U ] virtual/poppler-glib-0.10.7 [0.10.5]
[ebuild   R   ] media-gfx/inkscape-0.46-r5 
[blocks B ] app-text/poppler (app-text/poppler is blocking
dev-libs/popple
r-glib-0.10.7, dev-libs/poppler-0.10.7)
[blocks B ] dev-libs/poppler (dev-libs/poppler is blocking
app-text/popple
r-bindings-0.10.5-r1, app-text/poppler-0.10.5-r1)
[blocks B ] dev-libs/poppler-glib (dev-libs/poppler-glib is blocking
app-t
ext/poppler-bindings-0.10.5-r1, app-text/poppler-0.10.5-r1)

 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.

  ('ebuild', '/', 'dev-libs/poppler-glib-0.10.7', 'merge') pulled in by
~dev-libs/poppler-glib-0.10.7[cairo] required by ('installed', '/',
'media-g
fx/gimp-2.6.4', 'nomerge')
~dev-libs/poppler-glib-0.10.7[cairo] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'virtual/po
ppler-glib-0.10.7', 'merge')
~dev-libs/poppler-glib-0.10.7[cairo] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'media-gfx/
inkscape-0.46-r5', 'merge')

  ('installed', '/', 'app-text/poppler-0.10.5-r1', 'nomerge') pulled in by
~app-text/poppler-0.10.5 required by ('installed', '/',
'app-text/xpdf-3.02-
r2', 'nomerge')
~app-text/poppler-0.10.5 required by ('installed', '/',
'app-office/openoffi
ce-3.0.0', 'nomerge')
~app-text/poppler-0.10.5 required by ('installed', '/',
'dev-tex/luatex-0.30
.3', 'nomerge')
(and 1 more)

Wow. How'd I get in this state?

I'm not completely up-to-date, so I'm going to update world first, but there's
no update to inkscape or poppler mentioned in that.

This seems like a full-time job.

Mike
-- 
Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
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[gentoo-user] apache dep apr no emerge

2009-06-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Setup:
   pc
   2.6.30-gentoo-r1_rdr_3
   profile=default/linux/x86/2008.0

This a fresh install... just being built up now.
Attempting to emerge apache, and breaking on the depenedency apr.

Apparently something to do with not being able to determine 
`tagged configuration'

Anyone recognize what the problem is? 

Tail of emerge below:

 Source configured.
 Compiling source in /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/apr-1.3.5/work/apr-1.3.5 ...
make 
make[1]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/apr-1.3.5/work/apr-1.3.5'
/bin/sh /usr/bin/libtool --silent --mode=compile i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -pthread 
 -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLINUX=2 -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE 
-D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE   -I./include 
-I/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/apr-1.3.5/work/apr-1.3.5/include/arch/unix 
-I./include/arch/unix 
-I/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/apr-1.3.5/work/apr-1.3.5/include/arch/unix 
-I/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/apr-1.3.5/work/apr-1.3.5/include  -o 
passwd/apr_getpass.lo -c passwd/apr_getpass.c  touch passwd/apr_getpass.lo
libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration
libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag'
make[1]: *** [passwd/apr_getpass.lo] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/apr-1.3.5/work/apr-1.3.5'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 * 
 * ERROR: dev-libs/apr-1.3.5 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 * environment, line 2691:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   emake || die emake failed;
 *  The die message:
 *   emake failed




[gentoo-user] Re: Considering launching into Gentoo

2009-06-13 Thread walt

bn wrote:

walt ha scritto:

Ah, maybe that explains why I despise their package manager.

When I was a Debian user I figured that the most basic of utilities
should be easy to use -- and I'm only half joking.

Just for fun I tried Ubuntu recently since it's been so popular the
last few years.  They built their system on top of a Debian base,
including my nemesis, the Debian package management system :o(

The Synaptics GUI front end for their package manager is a great deal
easier than the original back end, true, but the basic bad design of
the back end still glares through the eye candy.  (Just my opinion.)

I like gentoo's portage system so-o-o-o much better!


As a user of both Debian-based and Gentoo systems, I am curious to know
what do you find so annoying about apt-get.


Heh.  I laughed out loud when I read this link about dselect, especially
the quote from Andrew Morton who captured my sentiments exactly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dselect


Portage is more flexible probably, but apt-get, with an appropriate
frontend like Synaptics, is a piece of cake: in 99% of cases is click
go.


Yes, if gentoo ever disappears (God forbid) I would probably go back to
Ubuntu because the Synaptics front end isn't too confusing.  But I'm
still annoyed by the idea that a binary package can be only 'partially
installed', whatever that means.  And why does a binary package need to
be configured, whatever that means?

After I dropped dselect like a hot potato I used apt-get from the command
line routinely.  I recall that there were often conflicts between the newly
downloaded packages and the old installed ones, leaving the machine in an
undefined state for me to sort out however I could.

Perhaps Debian has matured a bit since then -- I certainly hope so!


And surely it makes more sense to use than rpm, on the command line
(let alone the crazy Slackware guys :) )


I can barely remember using Red Hat, and I've never used Slackware, so
I can't offer any comments either pro or con.

It's me and gentoo til death do us part.  And I hope I go first...




[gentoo-user] Re: Considering launching into Gentoo

2009-06-13 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 06/14/2009 03:04 AM, walt wrote:

Portage is more flexible probably, but apt-get, with an appropriate
frontend like Synaptics, is a piece of cake: in 99% of cases is click
go.


Yes, if gentoo ever disappears (God forbid) I would probably go back to
Ubuntu because the Synaptics front end isn't too confusing.


Fortunately there's Arch too ;)




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: font missing

2009-06-13 Thread John P. Burkett
rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
 John P. Burkett burk...@uri.edu writes:
 
 Suggestions for recovering the old 10x20 font would be appreciated.
 
 I had the same problem but was able to view from an old backup of var
 in a previous OS install what was installed.
 
 It showed 38 packages I'd also like to know what specific fonts
 are in which package.
 
 But I just installed a few from the list.
 
 This is a guess but I think it was 
   media-fonts/font-sony-misc that supplied the missing 10x20 and mine
 was also missing 9x15.
 
 Be warned that the above pkg is JUST a GUESS... since I installed
 several pkgs and found no way to really tell what is in them.
 
 Even equery files font-pkg doesn't tell you since the naming
 apparently changes somewhere between files installed and actual fonts
 available. 
 
 
 The entire list I now have installed is listed below in case the guess
 above is wrong.  One in that bunch has it.  Look in:
 
   /var/db/pkg/media-fonts to see what is already installed.  
 
 Severl of those listed below will almost certainly be there.  So maybe
 it will narrow it down for you a bit.
 
 ===
 font-misc-meltho-1.0.0
 font-sony-misc-1.0.0
 font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.0
 font-misc-misc-1.0.0
 font-sun-misc-1.0.0
 font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.0
 font-mutt-misc-1.0.0
 font-util-1.0.1
 font-alias-1.0.1
 font-schumacher-misc-1.0.0
 gnu-gs-fonts-std-8.11
 

Thank you very much for your helpful response.  Emerging font-misc-misc
solved the problem for me. :-)

Best regards,
John




-- 
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Department of Economics
University of Rhode Island
Kingston, RI 02881-0808
USA

phone (401) 874-9195



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Considering launching into Gentoo

2009-06-13 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:04:57 -0700
walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's me and gentoo til death do us part.  And I hope I go first...

C'mon, something better might always come along, obsoleting gentoo,
like gentoo-ng ;)

-- 
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