Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4+i945+kernel+external display = ?

2009-10-28 Thread William Kenworthy
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Intel_GMA Welcome to our world of pain :( I made some headway using "-hal" for xorg-server in USE, and IgnoreEDID and setting DDC to false in xorg.conf but the latest updates ignore those and the UXA settings in the link above (check the xorg log for other dirty sec

[gentoo-user] Kgpg (KDE4) and missing menu items

2009-10-28 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey
Hi all, is it me, or does Kgpg (KDE4) indeed miss menu items for "Keys/export" , "Keys/reload" and so forth? I haven't noticed anything like that with any other application so far so I'm curious if that's something in my settings, or shall I stroll over to bugs.kde.org and file it?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel panic -- finding proper config diff

2009-10-28 Thread Maxim Wexler
> > And keep backup copies of each working .config file as you go merrily > whittling away, so you can fall back to something other than back to > square 1. > I keep all my spares in /boot/safe. mw

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel panic -- finding proper config diff

2009-10-28 Thread Maxim Wexler
On 10/26/09, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:52:26 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: > >> > Could be over-zealous whittling. Why not use the Live DVD .config >> > unchanged? >> OK, done. Crashed. Almost identical to the first post in this thread.

[gentoo-user] KDE4+i945+kernel+external display = ?

2009-10-28 Thread Dmitry Makovey
Hi everybody, I've got an interesting issue today which I half-resolved, but am still wondering whether I missed something important or did something that'll bite me in the end. So here's short story: I've been running older kernel (2.6.22-gentoo-r9) and KDE3 on my laptop(x86,i945) for quite some

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel panic -- finding proper config diff

2009-10-28 Thread waltdnes
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 09:10:33AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote > That's a correct assumption. The assumption about which options you don't > need may not have been so correct. It's safer to start with a bloated but > working kernel and whittle it down gradually. And keep backup copies of each wo

Re: [gentoo-user] Ethernet card not working, tried tulip drivers... [resolved]

2009-10-28 Thread Dale
Marcus Wanner wrote: > On 10/28/2009 5:39 PM, Dale wrote: >> Marcus Wanner wrote: >> >>> On 10/28/2009 04:01 AM, Dale wrote: >>> Mick wrote: > To read your PCI connected devices you need: > > lspci -v > > HTH. > That is the ke

Re: [gentoo-user] Ethernet card not working, tried tulip drivers... [resolved]

2009-10-28 Thread Marcus Wanner
On 10/28/2009 5:39 PM, Dale wrote: Marcus Wanner wrote: On 10/28/2009 04:01 AM, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: To read your PCI connected devices you need: lspci -v HTH. That is the key command in my opinion. That will tell you what driver it is using for what dev

Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 23:22:44 Grant wrote: > > If the relay you use requires a username/password or ssl, it supports > > that too. > > So I need a relay somewhere along with ssmtp to get a message to an > email address? > > > [The receiving smtp server likely does not require a username/p

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge advises upgrade profile

2009-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 29 October 2009 00:03:36 Dale wrote: > So this is why OOo won't compile all of a sudden. May have to put -kde > in package.use then. See if that helps. > > Thanks Alan. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > P. S. Should I report the failure or do they already know about this? The bug repor

Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-28 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 09:36 -0700, Grant wrote: > I'd like to receive ELOG messages in my inbox, but I'm hesitant to > leave my mail server's user:passwd in plain text in /etc/make.conf. > Do there exist public mail servers where I can send messages like this > to be delivered? I guess that's call

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge advises upgrade profile

2009-10-28 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 28 October 2009 18:52:33 Harry Putnam wrote: > >> Alan McKinnon writes: >> Alan, what does it get you? In fact what does `developer' buy you? >>> x86/10.0 gives you a baseline for that release >>> x86/10.0/desktop|developer|server giv

Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-28 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Wed, 10/28, Grant wrote: === > So I need a relay somewhere along with ssmtp to get a message to an > email address? Yes, or you can install a more featureful local HTA, such as courier or exim, which can deliver directly to a destination MTA. > I likely can't use my ISP's mail relay when

Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-28 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 21:22:44 Grant wrote: > >> >> > That kind of delivery limits the access to this mails to the local > >> >> > maschine. If I want to read local I don't need mails, I could just > >> >> > read the logfiles from portage in /var/log/ > >> >> > > >> >> > But I am aware that

Re: [gentoo-user] Ethernet card not working, tried tulip drivers... [resolved]

2009-10-28 Thread Dale
Marcus Wanner wrote: > On 10/28/2009 04:01 AM, Dale wrote: >> Mick wrote: >> >>> To read your PCI connected devices you need: >>> >>> lspci -v >>> >>> HTH. >>> >> >> That is the key command in my opinion. That will tell you what driver >> it is using for what device. If it works while bo

Re: [gentoo-user] strange dmesg output - RESOLVED

2009-10-28 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 20:10:52 Maxim Wexler wrote: > > Not sure this is related with the OP's problem, I have noticed that on my > > system I can scroll up in a console if it displays the output of a > > command, e.g. ls, but I cannot scroll up on the boot messages. Also, I > > cannot scrol

Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-28 Thread Grant
>> >> > That kind of delivery limits the access to this mails to the local >> >> > maschine. If I want to read local I don't need mails, I could just >> >> > read the logfiles from portage in /var/log/ >> >> > >> >> > But I am aware that solving this problem is nothing that portage has >> >> > to d

Re: [gentoo-user] strange dmesg output - RESOLVED

2009-10-28 Thread Maxim Wexler
> > Not sure this is related with the OP's problem, I have noticed that on my > system I can scroll up in a console if it displays the output of a command, > e.g. ls, but I cannot scroll up on the boot messages. Also, I cannot scroll > up on the log messages on VT12. Is there something that I nee

Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 21:27:48 Grant wrote: > >> > That kind of delivery limits the access to this mails to the local > >> > maschine. If I want to read local I don't need mails, I could just > >> > read the logfiles from portage in /var/log/ > >> > > >> > But I am aware that solving this pr

Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-28 Thread Grant
>> > That kind of delivery limits the access to this mails to the local >> > maschine. If I want to read local I don't need mails, I could just read >> > the logfiles from portage in /var/log/ >> > >> > But I am aware that solving this problem is nothing that portage has to >> > do, as it is no pro

Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-28 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 28.10.2009 19:57, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > On Wednesday 28 October 2009 20:44:59 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> That kind of delivery limits the access to this mails to the local >>> maschine. If I want to read local I don't need mails, I could just read >>> the logfiles from portage in /var/lo

Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 20:44:59 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > That kind of delivery limits the access to this mails to the local > > maschine. If I want to read local I don't need mails, I could just read > > the logfiles from portage in /var/log/ > > > > But I am aware that solving this p

Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 28 Oktober 2009, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Am 28.10.2009 18:59, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > > On Wednesday 28 October 2009 19:35:00 Sebastian Beßler wrote: > >> Am 28.10.2009 17:47, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > >>> Is your mail server really configured that local root mail needs a > >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-28 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 28.10.2009 18:59, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > On Wednesday 28 October 2009 19:35:00 Sebastian Beßler wrote: >> Am 28.10.2009 17:47, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: >>> Is your mail server really configured that local root mail needs a >>> password? >> >> I don't have a local mail server on my desktop

Re: [gentoo-user] Ethernet card not working, tried tulip drivers...

2009-10-28 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch 28 Oktober 2009 18:56:33 schrieb Dirk Heinrichs: > Am Mittwoch 28 Oktober 2009 00:32:07 schrieb Marcus Wanner: > > To sum it up: How do I figure out what the name of my card is, and after > > that, what driver do I need? > > Boot from a LiveCD, like Knoppix or GRML, run lspci -vv from

Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 19:35:00 Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Am 28.10.2009 17:47, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > > Is your mail server really configured that local root mail needs a > > password? > > I don't have a local mail server on my desktop maschine. Sure, I could > install some kind of

Re: [gentoo-user] Ethernet card not working, tried tulip drivers...

2009-10-28 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch 28 Oktober 2009 00:32:07 schrieb Marcus Wanner: > To sum it up: How do I figure out what the name of my card is, and after > that, what driver do I need? Boot from a LiveCD, like Knoppix or GRML, run lspci -vv from there and post the output. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Des

Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-28 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 28.10.2009 17:47, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > Is your mail server really configured that local root mail needs a password? I don't have a local mail server on my desktop maschine. Sure, I could install some kind of relay to my non-local mailserver but then I need to store username and pass

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge advises upgrade profile

2009-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 18:52:33 Harry Putnam wrote: > Alan McKinnon writes: > >> Alan, what does it get you? In fact what does `developer' buy you? > > > > x86/10.0 gives you a baseline for that release > > x86/10.0/desktop|developer|server give you a profile more suited > > (tweaked) for t

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge advises upgrade profile

2009-10-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon writes: >> Alan, what does it get you? In fact what does `developer' buy you? > > x86/10.0 gives you a baseline for that release > x86/10.0/desktop|developer|server give you a profile more suited (tweaked) > for > that kind of usage. [...] Nice.. thanks I see I already have mos

Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 28 Oktober 2009, Grant wrote: > I'd like to receive ELOG messages in my inbox, but I'm hesitant to > leave my mail server's user:passwd in plain text in /etc/make.conf. what? > Do there exist public mail servers where I can send messages like this > to be delivered? I guess that's ca

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge advises upgrade profile

2009-10-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Jonathan Callen writes: > Harry Putnam wrote: >> In fact what does `developer' buy you? > > Among other things, it enables I_KNOW_WHAT_I_AM_DOING, which tells you > the expected audience :). Seriously, the developer profiles are mainly > for Gentoo Devs, people who are going to be doing a lot of

[gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-28 Thread Grant
I'd like to receive ELOG messages in my inbox, but I'm hesitant to leave my mail server's user:passwd in plain text in /etc/make.conf. Do there exist public mail servers where I can send messages like this to be delivered? I guess that's called an open replay? If I use my ISP's mail server, shoul

Re: [gentoo-user] Ethernet card not working, tried tulip drivers... [resolved]

2009-10-28 Thread Marcus Wanner
On 10/28/2009 04:01 AM, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: To read your PCI connected devices you need: lspci -v HTH. That is the key command in my opinion. That will tell you what driver it is using for what device. If it works while booted on the Live CD, then that driver is most likely

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ethernet card not working, tried tulip drivers...

2009-10-28 Thread Marcus Wanner
On 10/27/2009 09:42 PM, Dale wrote: Marcus Wanner wrote: On 10/27/2009 9:28 PM, Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 28.10.2009 02:22, schrieb Marcus Wanner: On 10/27/2009 8:36 PM, James wrote: Marcus Wanner cox.net> writes: To sum it up: How do I fi

Re: [gentoo-user] Ethernet card not working, tried tulip drivers...

2009-10-28 Thread Marcus Wanner
On 10/28/2009 06:38 AM, Damien Sticklen wrote: Marcus Wanner wrote: lscpi returns command not found Are you using the lspci command as root? Yes, I haven't set up a non-root user yet. Marcus

Re: [gentoo-user] Ethernet card not working, tried tulip drivers...

2009-10-28 Thread Stroller
On 27 Oct 2009, at 23:32, Marcus Wanner wrote: ... To sum it up: How do I figure out what the name of my card is, and after that, what driver do I need? Boot once again with the LiveCD, and the lspci and lshw commands should work from there. You can also run `lsmod` which will show which

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kde4 upgrading

2009-10-28 Thread Stroller
I've edited your message when quoting it in order to meet my agenda. On 28 Oct 2009, at 00:28, James wrote: PS, if one of you really smart guys figures out mass/parallel upgrades, then I'd use that, even set up my own server to keep it efficient. I'm not smart enough (not enough time at cur

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bizarre Konqueror crash using flash plugin

2009-10-28 Thread Robin Atwood
On Wednesday 28 October 2009, Robin Atwood wrote: > On Wednesday 28 October 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: > > Does flash work in other browsers? 64-bit or 32-bit? > > > > What package does nspluginviewer belong to on your system? I think it > > should be using Qt4 if it's the KDE4 version. Mine is from

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 28 Oktober 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 28 Oct, Jesús Guerrero wrote: > > There's a thread in the forum as well. Searching for fglrx it's the first > > one right now, though it's titled towards nvidia. But just look inside. > > there are instructions on how to revert back. However,

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 28 Oktober 2009, Jesús Guerrero wrote: > On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:59:59 +0200, Alan McKinnon > > > wrote: > > On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:45:27 Helmut Jarausch wrote: > >> On 28 Oct, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> > On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:05:21 Helmut Jarausch wrote: > >> >> Hi,

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:59:59 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:45:27 Helmut Jarausch wrote: >> On 28 Oct, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> > On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:05:21 Helmut Jarausch wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> This was working just fine: >> >> >> >> kernel 2.6.31-r

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:59:59 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Thanks for pointing this out to me. > > There should be a warning, since, as many others found out, as well, > > it's not that easier to step back to xorg-server-1.6.5 > > "not that easy" ... now there's an understatement :-) But doa

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:45:27 Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 28 Oct, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:05:21 Helmut Jarausch wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> This was working just fine: > >> > >> kernel 2.6.31-r3 + xorg-server-1.6.5 + ati-drivers-9.10 > >> > >> Now > >> kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 28 Oct, Jesús Guerrero wrote: > There's a thread in the forum as well. Searching for fglrx it's the first > one right now, though it's titled towards nvidia. But just look inside. > there are instructions on how to revert back. However, the following rule > always holds true if you are using fgl

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:12:32 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:05:21 Helmut Jarausch wrote: >> Hi, >> >> This was working just fine: >> >> kernel 2.6.31-r3 + xorg-server-1.6.5 + ati-drivers-9.10 >> >> Now >> kernel 2.6.31-r4 + xorg-server-1.7.1 + ati-drivers-9.10 >

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 28 Oct, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:05:21 Helmut Jarausch wrote: >> Hi, >> >> This was working just fine: >> >> kernel 2.6.31-r3 + xorg-server-1.6.5 + ati-drivers-9.10 >> >> Now >> kernel 2.6.31-r4 + xorg-server-1.7.1 + ati-drivers-9.10 >> fail with >> >> (II) Lo

Re: [gentoo-user] Ethernet card not working, tried tulip drivers...

2009-10-28 Thread Damien Sticklen
Marcus Wanner wrote: > On 10/27/2009 7:38 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On Wednesday 28 October 2009 01:32:07 Marcus Wanner wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I just followed the (excellent, easily understandable) gentoo >>> installation handbook up to chapter 10, where it says to reboot. I did >>> so, but

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:05:21 Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > This was working just fine: > > kernel 2.6.31-r3 + xorg-server-1.6.5 + ati-drivers-9.10 > > Now > kernel 2.6.31-r4 + xorg-server-1.7.1 + ati-drivers-9.10 > fail with > > (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_d

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bizarre Konqueror crash using flash plugin

2009-10-28 Thread Robin Atwood
On Wednesday 28 October 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: > > Does flash work in other browsers? 64-bit or 32-bit? > > What package does nspluginviewer belong to on your system? I think it > should be using Qt4 if it's the KDE4 version. Mine is from > kde-base/nsplugins-4.3.2 and is located in /usr/bin/n

[gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, This was working just fine: kernel 2.6.31-r3 + xorg-server-1.6.5 + ati-drivers-9.10 Now kernel 2.6.31-r4 + xorg-server-1.7.1 + ati-drivers-9.10 fail with (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so dlopen: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol: resV

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kde4 upgrading

2009-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 02:28:43 James wrote: > PS, if one of you really smart guys figures out mass/parallel > upgrades, then I'd use that, even set up my own server > to keep it efficient. I'm not smart enough (not enough time > at current mental aptitude) to set all of that up, unless > so

Re: [gentoo-user] strange dmesg output - RESOLVED

2009-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 03:50:56 Maxim Wexler wrote: > >> So, since in the digital world, things don't "just happen", can > >> someone enlighten me, or anyone else who's interested, in the > >> connection between the scrollback buffer and usb-storage, if any? > > > > There isn't a connection.

Re: [gentoo-user] Ethernet card not working, tried tulip drivers...

2009-10-28 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > > To read your PCI connected devices you need: > > lspci -v > > HTH. > That is the key command in my opinion. That will tell you what driver it is using for what device. If it works while booted on the Live CD, then that driver is most likely what you need. Take the name of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Ethernet card not working, tried tulip drivers...

2009-10-28 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 23:32:07 Marcus Wanner wrote: > Note that I do not have the same ethernet card as is mentioned in the > link above, and have not been able to find out exactly what it's name > is, besides the fact that the name includes "Tornado". Also note that it > worked fine in the G