Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 09:44:01 Graham Murray wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes: so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser or mail app that they are offline? Why does the app need to know? Browsers normally have an

[gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Gentoo, My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. The first sign was when the compiler threw a segfault whilst emerging the xfce window manager. I solved this by emerging Openbox instead. Then I got another compiler segfault whilst emerging firefox (yes, I know there's a binary for

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo, My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. The first sign was when the compiler threw a segfault whilst emerging the xfce window manager. I solved this by emerging Openbox instead. Then I got another compiler

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread William Kenworthy
I am (was) getting this as well on a new amd64 install (zotac ION n330) - it appears there is a problem with certain glibc 32bit libraries - there is a bug about it. Upgraded glibc and most things are now happy - but I still cant build gcc. BillK On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 10:50 +0200, Alan

[gentoo-user] script to check if a package is installed ?

2010-02-12 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, does anybody know how to check if a package is installed using a script/ shell. Unfortunately eix -I -q CAT/PACK produces a return code of 0 irrespectively if CAT/PACK is install or not. I'd like to say for P in ...; do if CHECK_IF_INSTALLED $P; then echo $P; fi done What to

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo, My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. The first sign was when the compiler threw a segfault whilst emerging the xfce window manager. I solved

Re: [gentoo-user] script to check if a package is installed ?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 11:16:22 Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, does anybody know how to check if a package is installed using a script/ shell. Unfortunately eix -I -q CAT/PACK produces a return code of 0 irrespectively if CAT/PACK is install or not. I'd like to say for P in

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Graham Murray
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: On Friday 12 February 2010 09:44:01 Graham Murray wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes: so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser or mail app that they are offline? Why does the app need

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:21:22 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Could you (or anyone else here) give us a really dumbed-down summary of why a dev would want/need to use a socket, versus a pipe, versus a signal, versus dbus, versus, well, whatever else is out there? Alan's answered all of this

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 12 Feb, Alan Mackenzie wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo, My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. The first sign was when the compiler threw a segfault whilst emerging

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't dependent of the DE, to require a dependency of the DE. It just seems a bit backwards to me :-) I simply don't understand. That just shows that they are still partially

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Lewis Handy
snip I hope you're not right here.  ;-)  The hardware is spanking brand new; so new, in fact, that it's still gleaming. Are there any handy utility programs around to test RAM exhaustively? Most live CD's these days will come with memtest86 as a boot option, that would give your RAM a good

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Daniel Wagener
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:46:33 + Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo, My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. The first sign was when the

Re: [gentoo-user] script to check if a package is installed ?

2010-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:38:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Unfortunately eix -I -q CAT/PACK produces a return code of 0 irrespectively if CAT/PACK is install or not. I'd like to say for P in ...; do if CHECK_IF_INSTALLED $P; then echo $P; fi done What to replace

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Roy Wright
On Feb 12, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I hope you're not right here. ;-) The hardware is spanking brand new; so new, in fact, that it's still gleaming. Are there any handy utility programs around to test RAM

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Roy Wright
Another thing to try, change compile flag to -J1 (MAKEOPTS=-J1 emerge ...) Last time I built up a system there were a couple of packages that couldn't handle parallel compiles. HTH, Roy

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? - bar performance so far

2010-02-12 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 09 February 2010 16:31:15 Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP There's a few small downsides I've run into with all of this so far: 1) Since we don't use sector 63 it seems that fdisk will still tell you that you can

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Zeerak Waseem
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't dependent of the DE, to require a dependency of the DE. It just seems a bit backwards to me

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:42:26 +, Graham Murray wrote: Why does the app need to know? Browsers normally have an online/offline menu selection and if you try to browse to a site when your network is offline then the browser will generate the appropriate error message. You're on a train,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 12:15:13 Zeerak Waseem wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't dependent of the DE, to require

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 11:46:33 Alan Mackenzie wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo, My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. The first sign was when the compiler

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 11:42:26 Graham Murray wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: On Friday 12 February 2010 09:44:01 Graham Murray wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes: so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a

Re: [gentoo-user] Keyword for dev-java/sun-j2ee

2010-02-12 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Friday 12 February 2010 01:51:40 Dale wrote: By the way, just installed KDE 4.4 and I still can't open a file with Dolphin as root. You are not supposed to do that. Dolphin runs as you. Nope, I got it set to

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Alan, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo, My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. The first sign was when the compiler threw a segfault whilst emerging the xfce window manager.

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? - bar performance so far

2010-02-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 09 February 2010 16:31:15 Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP There's a few small downsides I've run into with all of this so far: 1) Since we

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: Hi, Gentoo, My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. The first sign was when the compiler threw a segfault whilst emerging the xfce window manager.  I solved this by emerging Openbox instead. Then I got another

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 12 Feb, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo, My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. Just one more reason. Have you got more than 4 Gb RAM installed? If yes, you might have to reduce memory speed. Some CPUs (among them AMD Phenom) have difficulties at the specified RAM speed if

[gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:22:21AM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo, My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. The first sign was when the compiler

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86

2010-02-12 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:22:21AM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo,

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Alan, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo, My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. The first sign was when the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't dependent of the DE, to require a

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 14:43:30 Alan Mackenzie wrote: failures in b11 of 32 bit words. I'll try unplugging and replugging these. No help. :-( No matter how I plug in the RAM (4 combinations of 2 sticks into 2 pairs of slots) it is always b11 which fails and always at an address

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Dale, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 06:43:46AM -0600, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:22:21AM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: When I run memtest86 from the gentoo boot disk, it signals millions of failures in b11 of 32 bit

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86

2010-02-12 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: Hi, Dale, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 06:43:46AM -0600, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:22:21AM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: When I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Zeerak Waseem zeera...@gmail.com On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't dependent of the DE, to require a

[gentoo-user] SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument

2010-02-12 Thread Valmor de Almeida
Hello, I am getting a SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument [ok] message when re/starting eth0. I am wondering about that. The router's MTU is set at 1500. Looking at the /etc/init.d/net.eth0 it seems the inteface metrics should be calculated automatically. Any ideas about where to look for the reason

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Zeerak Waseem
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:01:22 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: But I do find it

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: On 12 Feb, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo, My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. Just one more reason. Have you got more than 4 Gb RAM installed? If yes, you might have to reduce memory

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Zeerak Waseem
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:46:57 +0100, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message From: Zeerak Waseem zeera...@gmail.com On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: But I do find it silly, that the various

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Zeerak Waseem zeera...@gmail.com But then the question isn't whether there are a number of soft dependencies, but in the case of semantic-desktop whether -it- is a soft dependency. Like previously stated, I don't use kmail, nor do I intend to (I at least

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 12 Feb, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo, My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. Just one more reason. Have you got more than 4 Gb RAM installed? If yes, you might have to reduce memory speed. Some CPUs (among them

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:01:22 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 2/12/2010 10:14 AM, Zeerak Waseem wrote: But then the question isn't whether there are a number of soft dependencies, but in the case of semantic-desktop whether -it- is a soft dependency. Like previously stated, I don't use kmail, nor do I intend to (I at least think I mentioned it). This

[gentoo-user] Re: in-memory database

2010-02-12 Thread Doug O'Neal
On 02/11/2010 12:27 PM, Hung Dang wrote: Hi all, I am looking for an open source in-memory database for data mining purpose. I have tried to look into /usr/portage/dev-db/ and have not found any in-memory package. Any suggestion? Thanks in advance Hung mysql has a `memory' table engine.

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Volker, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 01:56:48PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: you can try upping the voltage of the ram by 0.05V. I had a stick that threw errors unless I gave it a bit more. After that the system was stable and none of the memtesting apps found any errors. Tried that

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86. Got it!

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Dale, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 08:27:01AM -0600, Dale wrote: Where the error is could depend on a single transistor that is maybe not as sensitive as the others. It's sort of like a chain. It's only as strong as its weakest link. It could be that whatever is going wrong could be right

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread pk
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser or mail app that they are offline? I don't have a network connection manager and I don't need that function in a browser, mail client or any other app. And don't start with sockets. That

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser or mail app that they are offline? I don't have a network connection manager and I don't need that function in a browser, mail client or any other

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread pk
Alan McKinnon wrote: 1. Say stuff it and build a print server into your app. We stopped doing that when DOS fell out of fashion. 2. Support all possible print systems. lpr anyone? 3. Or just use IPC and let dedicated print middleware deal with it. What's wrong with lpr? Multimedia

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: 1. Say stuff it and build a print server into your app. We stopped doing that when DOS fell out of fashion. 2. Support all possible print systems. lpr anyone? 3. Or just use IPC and let dedicated print middleware deal with it.

[gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Gentoo! As reported in other threads, my new PC had a broken RAM stick in it. As a result, an unknown proportion of installed binaries are flaky. One non-functioning binary is probably GCC. What I'd like to do is reinstall every binary, yet without erasing any configuration info, whose

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo! As reported in other threads, my new PC had a broken RAM stick in it. As a result, an unknown proportion of installed binaries are flaky. One non-functioning binary is probably GCC. What I'd like to do is reinstall every

[gentoo-user] Re: Ramifications of memtest86. Got it!

2010-02-12 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/12/2010 09:25 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Dale, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 08:27:01AM -0600, Dale wrote: Where the error is could depend on a single transistor that is maybe not as sensitive as the others. It's sort of like a chain. It's only as strong as its weakest link. It could be

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread pk
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: You obviously don't know what you are talking about. And you obviously do? If you start konqueror - for example, it is dbus telling konqueror to start as browser - or file manager. And to load the right kpart. Oh - and that loading of kparts? The messages are

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread pk
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: besides being not really usefull anymore? Are you sure you have lpr? Which ones do you have? And do you have it configured for the right printers? What if you don't have lpr but cups? Of course I use cups, don't be silly. Of course built without D-Bus support.

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: You obviously don't know what you are talking about. And you obviously do? If you start konqueror - for example, it is dbus telling konqueror to start as browser - or file manager. And to load the right kpart. Oh

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: besides being not really usefull anymore? Are you sure you have lpr? Which ones do you have? And do you have it configured for the right printers? What if you don't have lpr but cups? Of course I use cups, don't be silly.

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread Kyle Bader
Has anybody any other tips to offer me for this operation? tar up /etc. Make sure the tar can extract on another system. Backups that haven't been tested are not backups! :D -- Kyle

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread pk
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: well, just look at all those ubuntu users. Just for starters. Hm. And those ubuntu users have a choice? For the record, most people using wireless anywhere are using OS's from Redmond or Cupertino (Apple). They don't care about D-Bus either... yes, it has. There is

Re: [gentoo-user] Cron, bash, and java interacting badly?

2010-02-12 Thread Walt Rarus
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: source /etc/profile at the top of the script often works. @Neil: Well, that does the trick! But I don't understand why. In my initial post I withheld information in order to be sure the focus wouldn't be on the

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: well, just look at all those ubuntu users. Just for starters. Hm. And those ubuntu users have a choice? For the record, most people using wireless anywhere are using OS's from Redmond or Cupertino (Apple). They don't care

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:21:18 -0800, Kyle Bader wrote: Has anybody any other tips to offer me for this operation? tar up /etc. Make sure the tar can extract on another system. Backups that haven't been tested are not backups! :D /etc/ is CONFIG_PROTECTed, so emerge -e world will do

Re: [gentoo-user] Cron, bash, and java interacting badly?

2010-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:57:09 -0500, Walt Rarus wrote: BTW, I love the quotations following your sig. Speaking of source, are you willing to reveal the source of these beauties? Yes, it's a place called the Internet ;-) -- Neil Bothwick CPU: (n.) acronym for Central Purging Unit. A device

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:23:41 +0100, pk wrote: To me D-Bus is a bit like this: Programmer1: (waves hands in the air) Oh, oh I know, let's invent a new protocol that lets applications talk to each other. Way cool! Note that they are inventing a new protocol, not a new idea. Programmer2: Oh

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Zeerak Waseem
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:51:01 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:01:22 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: On Fri,

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86. Got it!

2010-02-12 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: Hi, Dale, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 08:27:01AM -0600, Dale wrote: Where the error is could depend on a single transistor that is maybe not as sensitive as the others. It's sort of like a chain. It's only as strong as its

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread William Kenworthy
equery check package compares current with the as installed checksum (or something like that!) for the packages files. emerge -ep world a edit a to add equery check before each package name run sh a b and got hrough the list in b to see whats broke - lots of debris - config files etc will show

[gentoo-user] Two problems with xdg-open

2010-02-12 Thread Willie Wong
Hi list: What exactly is xdg-open and how to I configure it to do what I want? The question came up because I am using jabref, a Java based bibtex management system. On my home machine, when I tried to open a PDF file, java throws a file-not-found error on xdg-open. But I have xdg-utils

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 09:15:59PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: as browser - or file manager. And to load the right kpart. Oh - and that loading of kparts? The messages are sent by dbus. I don't have konqueror nor do I use KDE/Gnome. And never will. then why do you even care

[gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread walt
Zeerak Waseem wrote: I just started a degree, to accomplish -something akin to- that ;-) Ah, good. Let me give you some free advice, well in advance. When it comes time to pick people for your thesis committee -- pick ones who love to argue. I think it may save you some pain later.

[gentoo-user] Re: New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread walt
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Maybe increasing voltages a bit (0.05 to 0.1V) will help you. It did for me with one certain Asrock board. This is the first I've heard of adjustable voltages. Where/how do you make the adjustment?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Maybe increasing voltages a bit (0.05 to 0.1V) will help you. It did for me with one certain Asrock board. This is the first I've heard of adjustable voltages. Where/how do you make the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 13 Februar 2010, walt wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Maybe increasing voltages a bit (0.05 to 0.1V) will help you. It did for me with one certain Asrock board. This is the first I've heard of adjustable voltages. Where/how do you make the adjustment? Bios

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: in-memory database - SOLVED

2010-02-12 Thread Hung Dang
Hi all, Thank a lot for your advices. I will try both mysql and sqlite to see which one is better for our purpose. Have a nice weekend, Hung On 02/12/10 10:56, Doug O'Neal wrote: On 02/11/2010 12:27 PM, Hung Dang wrote: Hi all, I am looking for an open source in-memory database for data

Re: [gentoo-user] Two problems with xdg-open

2010-02-12 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:23 -0500, Willie Wong wrote: Hi list: What exactly is xdg-open and how to I configure it to do what I want? The question came up because I am using jabref, a Java based bibtex management system. On my home machine, when I tried to open a PDF file, java throws a

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 02:37:53PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote You have been corrected on this point so many times I now think you are just a stupid ass. It is not slow. You are the only one saying that. People who do use Nepomuk say that it is not slow and does not hog resources (initial

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Walter Dnes
Sorry about the delay replying. I'm having major problems upgrading to kernel 2.6.31-r6. On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 04:53:08PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:31:21 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: XMMS followed the original Unix philosophy... it did one thing did it right,

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 21:55:29 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo! As reported in other threads, my new PC had a broken RAM stick in it. As a result, an unknown proportion of installed binaries are flaky. One non-functioning binary is probably GCC. What I'd like to do is reinstall

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 February 2010 00:52:32 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:21:18 -0800, Kyle Bader wrote: Has anybody any other tips to offer me for this operation? tar up /etc. Make sure the tar can extract on another system. Backups that haven't been tested are not

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 21:23:41 pk wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser or mail app that they are offline? I don't have a network connection manager and I don't need that function in a browser, mail client or any

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 02:37:53PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote You have been corrected on this point so many times I now think you are just a stupid ass. It is not slow. You are the only one saying that. People who do use

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Graham Murray
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org writes: - I run Firefox - I go to live365.com and log in - I click on an icon, and Firefox starts up an audio player, and passes it the appropriate URL. - I start reading/writing emails, whilst enjoying music in my headphones The audio player needs to