On Friday 09 Sep 2011 00:26:33 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Alan McKinnon
wrote:
> > On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 18:39:21 -0400
> >
> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Mick
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Unless I misunderstood this and reference
Moshe Kamensky wrote:
> * Moshe Kamensky [08/09/11 23:30]:
> > * cov...@ccs.covici.com [08/09/11 23:18]:
> > > Moshe Kamensky wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi There,
> > > >
> > > > I am trying to install Gentoo dual boot on a MacBook Pro (17 inch). I
> > > > have refit installed, but the problem is
On 2011-09-08 20:41, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> Yeah, but not the second part that you conveniently omitted: the
> freedom to modify the code.
What does the freedom to modify the code has to do with this discussion?
I thought we were discussing removed functionality (or changed as you
like to s
On 2011-09-08 20:40, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> The world is never black or white. Under several definitions,
> *nothing* has stopped working.
Hm. Using the same setup as I always have, nothing will stop working
with the new "paradigm"? Great, then what are we arguing about? If
things will work
* Moshe Kamensky [08/09/11 23:30]:
> * cov...@ccs.covici.com [08/09/11 23:18]:
> > Moshe Kamensky wrote:
> >
> > > Hi There,
> > >
> > > I am trying to install Gentoo dual boot on a MacBook Pro (17 inch). I
> > > have refit installed, but the problem is that I cannot boot from the CD
> > > (
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:58:21 +0200
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:08:21 -0400
> David Relson wrote:
>
> > G'day,
> >
> > I'm having a problem with VirtualBox and am looking for ideas.
> >
> > As background, I'm running virtualbox-bin-4.1.2 on a
> > 2.6.39-gentoo-r2 kernel on an AM
* cov...@ccs.covici.com [08/09/11 23:18]:
> Moshe Kamensky wrote:
>
> > Hi There,
> >
> > I am trying to install Gentoo dual boot on a MacBook Pro (17 inch). I
> > have refit installed, but the problem is that I cannot boot from the CD
> > (the option is not available in the menu). I was wond
Moshe Kamensky wrote:
> Hi There,
>
> I am trying to install Gentoo dual boot on a MacBook Pro (17 inch). I
> have refit installed, but the problem is that I cannot boot from the CD
> (the option is not available in the menu). I was wondering if someone
> knows how to do it.
What happens if
Hi There,
I am trying to install Gentoo dual boot on a MacBook Pro (17 inch). I
have refit installed, but the problem is that I cannot boot from the CD
(the option is not available in the menu). I was wondering if someone
knows how to do it.
Thanks,
Moshe
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Dale wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
I htink almost everyone understand this. Regards.
I think you are one of *very* few that understands this.
This reminds me of a old joke. One in four people have a mental issue.
Check three f
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 10:29:38 +0200
"ifj. Stefán István" wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I've installed vmware-player, but can't start it. It outputs a lot of
> messages
[ 8< ]
> It wont start even if I add a virtual machine config file parameter
> to vmplayer.
> Is there any trick to start it?
>
> Thanks
Hi,
I am using a IBM Model M (139031) with my Linux Box and a Belkin
PS2/USB/converter (active) To connect the PS2 cord to my PC (Chesen
Electronics Corp. PS/2 Keyboard+Mouse Adapter).
As long as I am booting the PC everything is fine.
But if I wake the PC from hibernate, the keyboard get screwe
I just noticed this at the end of my openssl emerge:
* Running 'c_rehash /etc/ssl/certs/' to rebuild hashes #333069 ...
WARNING: Skipping duplicate file cert_igca_rsa.pem [ ok ]
>>> dev-libs/openssl-1.0.0e merged.
Since SSL is so critical I thought I should run it by you guys. Is
this something
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 18:36:56 -0400
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Alan McKinnon
>> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:48:45 -0400
>> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Mi
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 22:45:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote about Re:
[gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot:
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:25:31 +0100
> David W Noon wrote:
>
> > > Well, then you already know what to do.
> >
> > Indeed I do.
>
> If your databases are not ASE or Oracle, then migrating
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 18:39:21 -0400
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Mick
>> wrote:
>> > Unless I misunderstood this and referenced threads, all this agro
>> > is being generated because udev devs decided to gi
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 18:36:56 -0400
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Alan McKinnon
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:48:45 -0400
> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer
> >> wrote:
> >> > Am Donnerstag, 8. Septem
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 22:31:15 +
Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 11:44:41PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> > > Would it not be possible to have a minimal /usr tree in the root
> > > partition for udev's use at boot time, and to later mount a more
> > > robust /usr partition ove
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 00:28:24 +0200
Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 23:38:01 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> > On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 23:06:43 +0200
> >
> > Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> > > Thanks, Alan
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question
> > >
> >
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 18:39:21 -0400
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Mick
> wrote:
> > Unless I misunderstood this and referenced threads, all this agro
> > is being generated because udev devs decided to give primacy not to
> > the linux fs and prevailing FHS conventio
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Dale wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> I htink almost everyone understand this. Regards.
>
> I think you are one of *very* few that understands this.
>
> This reminds me of a old joke. One in four people have a mental issue.
> Check three friends and if th
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:42:04 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote about Re:
[gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:25 PM, David W Noon
> wrote:
[snip]
> > They work currently.
>
> So you want all the new functionality, but without needing to do
> anything.
No.
I just wa
OK, so if you restore the two lines and this error goes away, can you then
initialise the device without any other errors?
Assuming that rfkill shows all is unlocked and the device active, what does
iwlist wlan0 scan show now?
--
Regards,
Mick
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On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Mick wrote:
> Unless I misunderstood this and referenced threads, all this agro is being
> generated because udev devs decided to give primacy not to the linux fs and
> prevailing FHS conventions, but their udev code and what may have been an easy
> workaround for t
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:48:45 -0400
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer
>> wrote:
>> > Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:23:36 schrieb Canek Peláez
>> > Valdés:
>> >> > In what valid way
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 11:44:41PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Would it not be possible to have a minimal /usr tree in the root
> > partition for udev's use at boot time, and to later mount a more
> > robust /usr partition over this? What am I missing here?
> A big problem will be that the p
Unless I misunderstood this and referenced threads, all this agro is being
generated because udev devs decided to give primacy not to the linux fs and
prevailing FHS conventions, but their udev code and what may have been an easy
workaround for them?
Given that I do not understand the ins and o
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 23:38:01 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 23:06:43 +0200
>
> Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> > Thanks, Alan
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question
> >
> > ;)
>
> Oops :-)
>
> I need to pay more attention to everything that everyone po
On 9/8/2011 12:52 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
So, a different scenario, then: Sometimes I need to log stuffs (via
ULOG) or do a tcpdump. Will JFS give me additional benefit to ext4? Or
should I just stick with ext4?
Simplest performance gain for appends is to drop atime/dirtime from the
file or
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 23:44:41 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:29:40 +
>
> Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> > Would it not be possible to have a minimal /usr tree in the root
> > partition for udev's use at boot time, and to later mount a more
> > robust /usr partition over
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:29:40 +
Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> Hi, all.
>
> Forgive me butting in at a random place in this rather heated thread,
> but
>
> On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:43:29PM +0200, Michael Schreckenbauer
> wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:23:36 schrieb Canek Pelá
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 23:06:43 +0200
Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> Thanks, Alan
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question
>
> ;)
Oops :-)
I need to pay more attention to everything that everyone posts. I
didn't know enough (or couldn't remember enough) to judge how many or
few years y
Hi, all.
Forgive me butting in at a random place in this rather heated thread,
but
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:43:29PM +0200, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:23:36 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> > > In what valid way does access to /usr become something th
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:46:25 -0400
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> The only simple answer I have is this one: if it is so simple, then it
> would work this way.
>
> It isn't. If I am wrong (and, of course, that is possible), someone
> will come out and do it, and you guys will be able to keep your
>
- Original Message -
> From: Mick
> On Thursday 08 Sep 2011 04:52:44 BRM wrote:
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> > From: Mick
>
>> > Hmm ... what is the error/warning that comes up?
>>
>> pneumo-martyr wpa_supplicant # /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start
>> * Bringing up interface
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:48:45 -0400
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer
> wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:23:36 schrieb Canek Peláez
> > Valdés:
> >> > In what valid way does access to /usr become something that udev
> >> > may be req
On Thursday 08 Sep 2011 09:29:38 ifj. Stefán István wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I've installed vmware-player, but can't start it. It outputs a lot of
> messages (none of them seems to be error msgs) and gives back the prompt:
>
> localhost ~ # vmplayer
> Logging to /tmp/vmware-root/setup-8401.log
> filen
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 22:56:07 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:40:07 +0200
>
> Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 22:05:36 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> > > On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:11:04 +0200
> > >
> > > Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> > >
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:23:36 -0400
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> It is a matter of what else do you end having in /bin and /lib.
> Remember that udev rules can execute arbitrary code. Do all that code
> needs to be moved to /bin and /lib also?
Why should it not move to /bin and /lib?
Is there a v
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:48:45 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer
wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:23:36 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> >> > In what valid way does access to /usr become something that udev
> >> > may be
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
I htink almost everyone understand this. Regards.
I think you are one of *very* few that understands this.
This reminds me of a old joke. One in four people have a mental issue.
Check three friends and if they are OK, you are it. Again, it is a joke
but my point
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>> Sorry you read that way; I keep trying to explain why I don't find a
>>> separated /usr a necessity and why I don't th
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:40:07 +0200
Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 22:05:36 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> > On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:11:04 +0200
> >
> > Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> > > > Then design the correct solution and implement it. If it's
> > > > technicall
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:23:36 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> > In what valid way does access to /usr become something that udev may be
>> > required to support?
>>
>> It is a matter of what else do you end having in /bin
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:21:11 -0400
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> > I do not have an initramfs, do not
>> > need one, see no need to have one and have not yet seen a valid
>> > technical reason for why having one is ideal.
>>
>> It's not "i
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:25:31 +0100
David W Noon wrote:
> > Well, then you already know what to do.
>
> Indeed I do.
If your databases are not ASE or Oracle, then migrating to FreeBSD is a
fine option. It's what we did at work. The benefits were immediate:
- we didn't lose the functioning desk
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:23:36 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> > In what valid way does access to /usr become something that udev may be
> > required to support?
>
> It is a matter of what else do you end having in /bin and /lib.
> Remember that udev rules can execute arbitrary code. Do
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:25 PM, David W Noon wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 15:13:55 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote about Re:
> [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:05 PM, David W Noon
>> wrote:
> [snip]
>> > I don't know if the kernel offers any particular blessi
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 22:05:36 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:11:04 +0200
>
> Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> > > Then design the correct solution and implement it. If it's
> > > technically sound, it will prevail. I think it's a rather
> > > complicated problem with
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:21:11 -0400
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> > I do not have an initramfs, do not
> > need one, see no need to have one and have not yet seen a valid
> > technical reason for why having one is ideal.
>
> It's not "ideal" (I don't think anybody has said that). Almost nothing
>
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
[ big fat snip ]
> Why is it so hard for these same maintainers to leave things as they
> are? It is not broken currently
I really need to get some work done, so I will keep it shortly,
because this is a dup of the CUPS discussion:
With code,
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 15:13:55 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote about Re:
[gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:05 PM, David W Noon
> wrote:
[snip]
> > I don't know if the kernel offers any particular blessing to any
> > hotplug handler.
>
> udev is the device manager
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:32:27 -0400
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Alan McKinnon
> wrote:
> > An initramfs is optional becuase i can disable it in the kernel. I
> > would like to keep that optional.
>
> udev at some point was optional, then it wasn't. Right now initr
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:11:04 +0200
> Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
>
>> > Then design the correct solution and implement it. If it's
>> > technically sound, it will prevail. I think it's a rather
>> > complicated problem with a non trivial so
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:13:58 -0400
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> > Have you *ever* thought about machines, that are not x86 or x86_64?
>> > Here's an intersting read:
>> > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/72769
>>
>> No,
On Wednesday 07 Sep 2011 21:48:44 Harry Putnam wrote:
> Stefano Crocco writes:
> > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . you have to click on the Opera
> > button, just below the title bar and at the left of the first open
> > tab. A menu will popup.
>
> Many thanks friend. That one bit is the key
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:11:04 +0200
Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> > Then design the correct solution and implement it. If it's
> > technically sound, it will prevail. I think it's a rather
> > complicated problem with a non trivial solution, but the code is
> > there if you feel like give it a t
On Thursday 08 Sep 2011 04:52:44 BRM wrote:
> - Original Message -
>
> > From: Mick
> > Hmm ... what is the error/warning that comes up?
>
> pneumo-martyr wpa_supplicant # /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start
> * Bringing up interface wlan0
> * Starting wpa_supplicant on wlan0 ...
> Line 17
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>>> This isn't a discussion. This is a bunch of people offering
>>> displeasure, ideas and/or thoughts, and one person saying, "he
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:13:58 -0400
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> > Have you *ever* thought about machines, that are not x86 or x86_64?
> > Here's an intersting read:
> > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/72769
>
> No, I haven't thought about them, because I don't use them. What
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:35 PM, pk wrote:
>>> ^
>>> You do realise that this is quite valid for Windows (and all other OS's
>>> in existence)? At least so far
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> This isn't a discussion. This is a bunch of people offering
>> displeasure, ideas and/or thoughts, and one person saying, "hey,
>> nothing I can do. I trust the devs."
>
> I disagree
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:05 PM, David W Noon wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 12:56:44 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote about Re:
> [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, David W Noon
>> wrote:
> [snip]
>> > I expect to switch my simpler systems away from udev t
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:35 PM, pk wrote:
>> On 2011-09-08 16:51, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>>> But the freedom is still there. The freedom to either keep your system
>>> as it is (don't upgrade)
>> ^
>> You do realis
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> We already *have* the situation of not requiring initramfs for separate
>>> /usr.
>>> Mission accomplished
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:35 PM, pk wrote:
> On 2011-09-08 16:51, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> But the freedom is still there. The freedom to either keep your system
>> as it is (don't upgrade)
> ^
> You do realise that this is quite valid for Windows (and all other OS's
>
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:30 PM, pk wrote:
> On 2011-09-08 05:23, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> Yeah, first time I installed Linux, it required 512 Mb (if I installed
>> X), and 16 Mb of memmory. Change happens. I welcome it happily,
>> because that's how we progress and get even better stuff.
>
On 2011-09-08 19:47, Michael Mol wrote:
> Outdated operating systems make baby coder cry.
I like making baby coders cry... >:->
;-)
Best regards
Peter K
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 12:56:44 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote about Re:
[gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, David W Noon
> wrote:
[snip]
> > I expect to switch my simpler systems away from udev to mdev. This
> > loses some functionality of udev, but that is
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:35 PM, pk wrote:
> On 2011-09-08 16:51, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> But the freedom is still there. The freedom to either keep your system
>> as it is (don't upgrade)
> ^
> You do realise that this is quite valid for Windows (and all other OS's
>
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
>>
>> We already *have* the situation of not requiring initramfs for separate /usr.
>> Mission accomplished.
>> It's the upcoming change, that violates KISS. If udev cannot w
On 2011-09-08 16:51, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> But the freedom is still there. The freedom to either keep your system
> as it is (don't upgrade)
^
You do realise that this is quite valid for Windows (and all other OS's
in existence)? At least so far...
Best regards
Pet
On 2011-09-08 05:23, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> Yeah, first time I installed Linux, it required 512 Mb (if I installed
> X), and 16 Mb of memmory. Change happens. I welcome it happily,
> because that's how we progress and get even better stuff.
Change is sometimes good, sometimes bad. Something
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 12:45:47 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer
> wrote:
>> > Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:58:22 schrieb Neil Bothwick:
>> >> On Thu, 8 Sep 20
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 12:34:50 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer
> wrote:
>> > Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 11:13:58 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> >> On Thu, Se
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 12:45:47 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer
wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:58:22 schrieb Neil Bothwick:
> >> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:15:40 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
> >> > Perhaps udev's problem i
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 12:34:50 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer
wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 11:13:58 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
> >>
> >
> > wrote:
>
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, David W Noon wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:33:35 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote about Re:
> [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:37 PM, David W Noon
>> wrote:
> [snip]
>> > The more I think about this merge of / and /usr, the d
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:58:22 schrieb Neil Bothwick:
>> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:15:40 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
>> > Perhaps udev's problem is that it's too complex, as a result of having
>> > too large a problem scope.
>
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:33:35 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote about Re:
[gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot:
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:37 PM, David W Noon
> wrote:
[snip]
> > The more I think about this merge of / and /usr, the dumber I think
> > the idea is. As I wrote in an earlier message
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 11:13:58 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
> wrote:
>> > Am Mittwoch, 7. September 2011, 23:33:35 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> >> I don't see
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:58:22 schrieb Neil Bothwick:
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:15:40 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
> > Perhaps udev's problem is that it's too complex, as a result of having
> > too large a problem scope.
> The problem, AIUI, is the udev can run any programs specified in th
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 11:13:58 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 7. September 2011, 23:33:35 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> >> I don't see any problem with an initramfs larger than the kernel. It
> >> will han
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:15:40 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
> Perhaps udev's problem is that it's too complex, as a result of having
> too large a problem scope.
The problem, AIUI, is the udev can run any programs specified in the
rules files, and they may not be available before /usr is mounted. If th
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Dale wrote:
>>> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Then don't update. Wanna keep up with upstream? Then accept that sometimes
you will need
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:23:45 -0400
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> > I wound up being able to recover by doing a full reinstall of all
>> > packages on the live system after mounting /usr into a
>> > freshly-mkfs'd new lvm volume. If I'd tak
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Dale wrote:
>> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>>
>>> Then don't update. Wanna keep up with upstream? Then accept that sometimes
>>> you will need to change your setup, and change how you do stuff. Regards.
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 7. September 2011, 23:33:35 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> > The more I think about this merge of / and /usr, the dumber I think the
>> > idea is. As I wrote in an earlier message on this list, the initramfs
>> > will b
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:30:16 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> > Because you can't boot from an LV, so you'd than need a separate /boot
>> > and an initramfs. Without LVM, you are unlikely to be able to resize /
>> > or /usr as it is not u
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Dale wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> Then don't update. Wanna keep up with upstream? Then accept that sometimes
>> you will need to change your setup, and change how you do stuff. Regards.
>
> This is so like something I have told folks about windoze. Aw
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:45 PM, wrote:
> Hi,
>
> from here I learned the altgr-intl keyboard layout:
> http://dry.sailingissues.com/us-international-keyboard-layout.html
> which I will try. It seems to be a good choice for daily
> programming and writing (I need german Umlauts...;)
>
> Instead o
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 06, 2011, Kfir Lavi wrote about "Nested VMX support in qemu and
> kvm":
> > Hi,
>
> Wow, I didn't expect to see a discussion about nested VMX in linux-il?
> Any particular reason why you bring this up here, and not in the KVM
> mail
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:23:45 -0400
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> > I wound up being able to recover by doing a full reinstall of all
> > packages on the live system after mounting /usr into a
> > freshly-mkfs'd new lvm volume. If I'd taken the system offline, it
> > would have been much more diffic
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:08:21 -0400
David Relson wrote:
> G'day,
>
> I'm having a problem with VirtualBox and am looking for ideas.
>
> As background, I'm running virtualbox-bin-4.1.2 on a 2.6.39-gentoo-r2
> kernel on an AMD Phenom 9850. My vmware install no longer works
> because vmware wants t
On 09/08/2011 10:10 AM, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
What would cause this?
bunyip rpm # /opt/vmware/lib/vmware/bin/vmware
*** glibc detected *** /opt/vmware/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: malloc():
memory corruption: 0x09f35e80 ***
^C
bunyip rpm #
Ive tried doing a emerge -ep world
glibc is
* sys-libs/glib
Hello!
I've installed vmware-player, but can't start it. It outputs a lot of
messages (none of them seems to be error msgs) and gives back the prompt:
localhost ~ # vmplayer
Logging to /tmp/vmware-root/setup-8401.log
filename: /lib/modules/2.6.38-gentoo-r6/misc/vmmon.ko
supported: e
Alberto Luaces writes:
> Neil Bothwick writes:
>
>> On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:04:17 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>>> > Putting it on a logical volume is one advantage, allowing /usr to be
>>> > resized should the need arise.
>>>
>>> Why not allow / to be resized entirely? You probably will
Am Mittwoch, 7. September 2011, 23:33:35 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> > The more I think about this merge of / and /usr, the dumber I think the
> > idea is. As I wrote in an earlier message on this list, the initramfs
> > will be many times larger than the kernel itself. Indeed, my /boot
> > pa
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:30:16 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> > Because you can't boot from an LV, so you'd than need a separate /boot
> > and an initramfs. Without LVM, you are unlikely to be able to resize /
> > or /usr as it is not usually the last partition on the drive.
>
> So, you guys wa
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 05:15, kashani wrote:
> On 9/7/2011 5:25 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
>>
>> Well, for all my other servers, I standardized on ext4.
>>
>> Since a vFirewall have to perform lots of packet-juggling, I'd rather
>> dedicate the CPU time to the kernel rather than the HD I/O.
>>
>> Of
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