[gentoo-user] How to record memory usage bandwidth usage?

2011-10-11 Thread Pandu Poluan
The head honcho of my company just asked me to plan for migration of X into the cloud (where X is the online trading server that our investors used). Now, I need to monitor how much RAM is used throughout the day by X, also how much bandwidth gets eaten by X throughout the day. What tools do you

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health

2011-10-11 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 11 Oct 2011 02:39:10 Michael Mol wrote: As far as food goes, for me, it's really not the kind of food, but how much of it I eat. First step is to eat smaller portions, so that my stomach shrinks and I feel fuller sooner. Calories are not all the same, because we metabolise them more

Re: [gentoo-user] automount USB

2011-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 23:44:00 +0200, Michal Halenka wrote: I am looking fow a way, how to automount USB disks (or CD) by normal user. I find many ways (udev, hal, policykit, udisks, autofs), but I am just ordinary user, so I don´t know which one is deprecated (hal?), which one is easy to use,

Re: [gentoo-user] Cups and Ricoh Aficio 270

2011-10-11 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 11 Oct 2011 06:16:14 Willie Matthews wrote: On Mon Oct 10 18:32:13 2011, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On Tue 11 Oct 2011 01:13:41 AM IST, Mick wrote: I'm struggling to get anything printed properly - is there a proper driver for this printer in CUPS. The driver I've chosen seems

Re: [gentoo-user] How to record memory usage bandwidth usage?

2011-10-11 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 11 Oct 2011 10:48:31 Pandu Poluan wrote: The head honcho of my company just asked me to plan for migration of X into the cloud (where X is the online trading server that our investors used). Now, I need to monitor how much RAM is used throughout the day by X, also how much

Re: [gentoo-user] How to record memory usage bandwidth usage?

2011-10-11 Thread Matthew Marlowe
Pandu, Any modern monitoring framework/server with a web interface will have tools to select metrics to retrieve and store into a database and display/graph/alert as needed using whatever reasonable collection interval you define. If your metrics are relatively simple, you should be able to get

Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?

2011-10-11 Thread Jonas de Buhr
hey guys, please don't get me wrong on this one, i mean no offense. can anyone explain to me what this is? are these lavender threads some kind of trolling i don't get? it (apparently on purpose, since hints in that direction are ignored) combines loads of annoying qualities: - nondescriptive

this is spam (was: Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?)

2011-10-11 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:03:27 +0200 schrieb Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net: it's nice how much many people on this this list are willing to help in spite of all this. but am i really the only one who finds the behavior described above at least confusing? anyway, i'm quite convinced it is

Re: this is spam (was: Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?)

2011-10-11 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 11 Oct 2011 12:51:12 Jonas de Buhr wrote: Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:03:27 +0200 schrieb Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net: it's nice how much many people on this this list are willing to help in spite of all this. but am i really the only one who finds the behavior described

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?

2011-10-11 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote: hey guys, please don't get me wrong on this one, i mean no offense. can anyone explain to me what this is? are these lavender threads some kind of trolling i don't get? it (apparently on purpose, since hints in that

Re: [gentoo-user] automount USB

2011-10-11 Thread Michal Halenka
...The answer may have a lot to do with what GUI you use. Do you use KDE, Gnome, Fluxbox or something else? Once that is known, then help will come along. Dale :-) :-) Hi, I am using awesome WM, /usr/bin/startx. I am using some GTK apps, and some Qt apps.

Re: this is spam (was: Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?)

2011-10-11 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:54:06 +0100 schrieb Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: On Tuesday 11 Oct 2011 12:51:12 Jonas de Buhr wrote: Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:03:27 +0200 schrieb Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net: it's nice how much many people on this this list are willing to help in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?

2011-10-11 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:54:37 -0400 schrieb Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote: hey guys, please don't get me wrong on this one, i mean no offense. can anyone explain to me what this is? are these lavender threads

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?

2011-10-11 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote: Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:54:37 -0400 schrieb Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote: hey guys, please don't get me wrong on this one, i mean no

[gentoo-user] Re: tabbed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode

2011-10-11 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Tuesday 11 October 2011, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 08 October 2011 19:43:53 Michael Orlitzky wrote: I'm going to start a bug-filing campaign against packages like this some day. The only description we ever get for use flag foo is 'enable support for foo', which doesn't tell you

[gentoo-user] Re: tabbed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode

2011-10-11 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Saturday 08 October 2011, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 10/08/11 15:09, Francesco Talamona wrote: I'm not going to complain, though I'm willing to point out (e.g. commenting on relevant bug reports) that some packages are affected in a bad way by this move. Comment here? The devs are

[gentoo-user] Re: tabbed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode

2011-10-11 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Sunday 09 October 2011, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 10/09/11 13:53, Alan McKinnon wrote: For rxvt, a suitable flag name would be plugins Or if there were some package-specific documentation that said, perl: enable the following plugins (written in perl): tabs, transparency, etc. In

[gentoo-user] Re: How to record memory usage bandwidth usage?

2011-10-11 Thread James
Pandu Poluan pandu at poluan.info writes: The head honcho of my company just asked me to plan for migration of X into the cloud (where X is the online trading server that our investors used). This is a single server or many at different locations. If a WAN monitoring is what you are after,

[gentoo-user] Re: tabbed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode

2011-10-11 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Saturday 08 October 2011, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 10/08/11 15:09, Francesco Talamona wrote: I'm not going to complain, though I'm willing to point out (e.g. commenting on relevant bug reports) that some packages are affected in a bad way by this move. Comment here? The devs are

Re: this is spam (was: Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?)

2011-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:08:19 +0200 Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote: what really points into the direction of spam in my opinion is using the different names mentioned of stopforumspam. and that others went as far as reporting it. Simplest possible answer: Chinese internet cafe's

[gentoo-user] SSDs, ext4, fstrim, discard ...

2011-10-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
As mentioned in the systemd-posting I migrated back to an SSD today (on my main rig, the thinkpad uses an SSD happily for a long time now). A feature in a local magazine updated my knowledge of how to make use of the TRIM-command. It told me not to use the mount-option discard anymore, but run

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-10-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Didn't do much research around this lately. Today I revived my SSD (we'll see) and therefore fell over systemd when I edited grub.conf Where would/should I put stuff from /etc/local.d/ with systemd? I have some commands there setting parameters for ssd-usage and those would be skipped (not

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Didn't do much research around this lately. Today I revived my SSD (we'll see) and therefore fell over systemd when I edited grub.conf Where would/should I put stuff from /etc/local.d/ with systemd? I have some

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-10-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 11.10.2011 23:04, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: [...] systemctl status ssd-thingies.service If everything went OK, it should have a line like this: Process: 1234 ExecStart=/my/path/to/ssd-thingies (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Regards. Thanks for the explanation! I tried it

Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs, ext4, fstrim, discard ...

2011-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:56:31 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: As mentioned in the systemd-posting I migrated back to an SSD today (on my main rig, the thinkpad uses an SSD happily for a long time now). A feature in a local magazine updated my knowledge of how to make use of the

Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs, ext4, fstrim, discard ...

2011-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:56:31 +0200 Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: As mentioned in the systemd-posting I migrated back to an SSD today (on my main rig, the thinkpad uses an SSD happily for a long time now). A feature in a local magazine updated my knowledge of how to make use

[gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-11 Thread Allan Gottlieb
For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0. Summary: gdm-3.2.0-r1 crashes and when I revert to the 3.0 gdm, I get to the login screen but then gnome-shell crashes. I tried to downgrade to gnome-shell-3.0.2-r1, but that needs libgnome-menu, which is not in portage/layman. The crash

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 11.10.2011 23:04, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: [...] systemctl status ssd-thingies.service If everything went OK, it should have a line like this: Process: 1234 ExecStart=/my/path/to/ssd-thingies (code=exited,

Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs, ext4, fstrim, discard ...

2011-10-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 12.10.2011 00:05, schrieb Neil Bothwick: This seems in accordance with the fstrim man page: fstrim will report the same potential discard bytes each time, but only sectors which had been written to between the discards would actually be discarded by the storage device. Didn't see this

Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs, ext4, fstrim, discard ...

2011-10-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 12.10.2011 00:05, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Yes, you misunderstand how fstrim works. It's not up to you to say what it does exactly, it's up to the drive firmware and possibly the kernel. It's actually fully described in the man page right there in the part for option -v :-) So it only

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0. Weird; for me it works so much better than 3.0. Summary: gdm-3.2.0-r1 crashes and when I revert to the 3.0 gdm, I get to the login screen but then gnome-shell

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-10-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 12.10.2011 00:23, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: Your script (I believe) does not have execution perms. All the commands for ExecStart (and ExecStop) need to be executable, so do a chmod +x /etc/local.d/stefan.start I showed you before: # ll /etc/local.d/stefan.start -rwxr-xr-x 1 root

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 12.10.2011 00:23, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: Your script (I believe) does not have execution perms. All the commands for ExecStart (and ExecStop) need to be executable, so do a chmod +x /etc/local.d/stefan.start

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-10-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 12.10.2011 00:47, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: # ll /etc/local.d/stefan.start -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 795 11. Okt 16:47 /etc/local.d/stefan.start Sorry, didn't see it. Can you execute it calling it directly? Maybe it's missing the proper shebang. The shebang did the trick! Thanks a lot,

[gentoo-user] Re: this is spam (was: Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?)

2011-10-11 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.netwrote: Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:54:06 +0100 schrieb Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: On Tuesday 11 Oct 2011 12:51:12 Jonas de Buhr wrote: Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:03:27 +0200 schrieb Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net:

Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs, ext4, fstrim, discard ...

2011-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:28:03 +0200 Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 12.10.2011 00:05, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Yes, you misunderstand how fstrim works. It's not up to you to say what it does exactly, it's up to the drive firmware and possibly the kernel. It's actually fully

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-11 Thread David Abbott
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0. Weird; for me it works so much better than 3.0. Working OK here also, here is my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: this is spam (was: Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?)

2011-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:16:56 -0400 Matthew Finkel matthew.fin...@gmail.com wrote: I understand why you would think the OP is a spammer, but the topic just seems too genuine (to me at least) for this to actually be spam. It definitely would have been more polite if Lavender had replied to the

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-11 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Tue, Oct 11 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0. Weird; for me it works so much better than 3.0. Summary: gdm-3.2.0-r1 crashes and when I revert to the 3.0 gdm, I

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-11 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Tue, Oct 11 2011, David Abbott wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0. Weird; for me it works so much better than

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Tue, Oct 11 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0. Weird; for me it works so much better than

[gentoo-user] /usr/bin/[ and coreutils

2011-10-11 Thread William Kenworthy
I have been checking my system for some deep seated problems and in the process, ran across the fact that equery files sys-apps/coreutils-8.7 shows a file included called /usr/bin/[ - thats right, left square bracket! Is that a bug or if real, what would you use it for? It doesnt seem to be on

Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/bin/[ and coreutils

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:35 PM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: I have been checking my system for some deep seated problems and in the process, ran across the fact that equery files sys-apps/coreutils-8.7 shows a file included called /usr/bin/[ - thats right, left square

Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/bin/[ and coreutils

2011-10-11 Thread Manuel McLure
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:35 PM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: I have been checking my system for some deep seated problems and in the process, ran across the fact that equery files sys-apps/coreutils-8.7 shows a file included called /usr/bin/[ - thats right, left square

Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/bin/[ and coreutils

2011-10-11 Thread meino . cramer
William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au [11-10-12 07:40]: I have been checking my system for some deep seated problems and in the process, ran across the fact that equery files sys-apps/coreutils-8.7 shows a file included called /usr/bin/[ - thats right, left square bracket! Is that a bug or