[gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread Walter Dnes
This revision makes 2 changes... A) The removal of udev is now standard instead of optional. udev-181 and higher will be pulling in kmod, and anything else that kmod depends on. Removing udev will avoid unnecessary cruft on your machine. B) Splitting up step 3) into 3a) and 3b) for greater

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-11 Thread pk
On 2012-03-11 03:36, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: This news item is to inform you that once you upgrade to a version of udev =181, if you have /usr on a separate partition, you must boot your system with an initramfs which pre-mounts /usr. Ok, I thank both you and Neil for this info. In

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread Daddy
On March 11, 2012 at 5:09 AM Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: This revision makes 2 changes... A) The removal of udev is now standard instead of optional. udev-181 and higher will be pulling in kmod, and anything else that kmod depends on. Removing udev will avoid unnecessary

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-11 Thread Jorge Martínez López
Hi! I had some struggle with a separate /usr on top of LVM and the dracut thing. I noticed that udev was complaining at boot that it could not find some scripts. The usmount dracut module did not work for me because it could not find /usr. So what I did was to include the fstab-sys smodule in

Re: [gentoo-user] gmail smtp overwrites the sender

2012-03-11 Thread Stroller
On 10 March 2012, at 20:56, András Csányi wrote: … I would like to ask some help! I would like to use gmail smtp to send my email from my domain which is sayusi.hu, and the email address is sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu. Unfortunately, gmail smtp always overwrite the sender email address. … Do you

Re: [gentoo-user] gmail smtp overwrites the sender

2012-03-11 Thread András Csányi
On 11 March 2012 13:49, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 10 March 2012, at 20:56, András Csányi wrote: … I would like to ask some help! I would like to use gmail smtp to send my email from my domain which is sayusi.hu, and the email address is sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu.

[gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

2012-03-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/03/12 22:56, András Csányi wrote: Dear All, I would like to ask some help! I would like to use gmail smtp to send my email from my domain which is sayusi.hu, and the email address is sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu. Unfortunately, gmail smtp always overwrite the sender email address. Doesn't the

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 11, 2012 6:30 PM, Daddy da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On March 11, 2012 at 5:09 AM Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: This revision makes 2 changes... A) The removal of udev is now standard instead of optional. udev-181 and higher will be pulling in kmod, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:27:05 -0400 (EDT) Daddy da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On March 11, 2012 at 5:09 AM Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: This revision makes 2 changes... A) The removal of udev is now standard instead of optional. udev-181 and higher will be

[gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

2012-03-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-03-10, Andr??s Cs??nyi sayusi.a...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to ask some help! I would like to use gmail smtp to send my email from my domain which is sayusi.hu, and the email address is sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu. Unfortunately, gmail smtp always overwrite the sender email address.

Re: [gentoo-user] gmail smtp overwrites the sender

2012-03-11 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 11, 2012 3:59 AM, András Csányi sayusi.a...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, I would like to ask some help! I would like to use gmail smtp to send my email from my domain which is sayusi.hu, and the email address is sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu. Unfortunately, gmail smtp always overwrite the

[gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

2012-03-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 11/03/12 16:41, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-03-10, Andr??s Cs??nyisayusi.a...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to ask some help! I would like to use gmail smtp to send my email from my domain which is sayusi.hu, and the email address is sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu. Unfortunately, gmail smtp always

[gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

2012-03-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 11/03/12 16:49, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Mar 11, 2012 3:59 AM, András Csányi sayusi.a...@gmail.com mailto:sayusi.a...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, I would like to ask some help! I would like to use gmail smtp to send my email from my domain which is sayusi.hu http://sayusi.hu, and the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

2012-03-11 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 11, 2012 10:08 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/03/12 16:49, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Mar 11, 2012 3:59 AM, András Csányi sayusi.a...@gmail.com mailto:sayusi.a...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, I would like to ask some help! I would like to use gmail smtp to

[gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

2012-03-11 Thread Tamer Higazi
Hi people! I want to upgrade gnome 2.32 to gnome 3. First question, is it now officially supported by the gentoo team or should I keep my fingers away of it?! http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/gnome/howtos/gnome-3.2-upgrade.xml doesn't tell me a lot how to accomplish this task. Is there any

[gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

2012-03-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 11/03/12 17:18, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Mar 11, 2012 10:08 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com mailto:rea...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/03/12 16:49, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Mar 11, 2012 3:59 AM, András Csányi sayusi.a...@gmail.com mailto:sayusi.a...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

2012-03-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-03-11, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: There is no display from. I use Thunderbird and it reports the from correctly (that is, it says the mail did not come from GMail.) All mail clients do that. Outlook never used to. It always used to display the on behalf of stuff.

[gentoo-user] hard drive encryption

2012-03-11 Thread Valmor de Almeida
Hello, I have not looked at encryption before and find myself in a situation that I have to encrypt my hard drive. I keep /, /boot, and swap outside LVM, everything else is under LVM. I think all I need to do is to encrypt /home which is under LVM. I use reiserfs. I would appreciate suggestion

Re: [gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

2012-03-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:01:41 +0100 Tamer Higazi th9...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi people! I want to upgrade gnome 2.32 to gnome 3. First question, is it now officially supported by the gentoo team or should I keep my fingers away of it?!

[gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

2012-03-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 11/03/12 18:14, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-03-11, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@gmail.com wrote: There is no display from. I use Thunderbird and it reports the from correctly (that is, it says the mail did not come from GMail.) All mail clients do that. Outlook never used to. It always

[gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

2012-03-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-03-11, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/03/12 18:14, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-03-11, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@gmail.com wrote: There is no display from. I use Thunderbird and it reports the from correctly (that is, it says the mail did not come from GMail.) All

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
2012/3/11 Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com: Hi! I had some struggle with a separate /usr on top of LVM and the dracut thing. I noticed that udev was complaining at boot that it could not find some scripts. The usmount dracut module did not work for me because it could not find /usr.

Re: [gentoo-user] hard drive encryption

2012-03-11 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 11.03.2012 16:38, schrieb Valmor de Almeida: Hello, I have not looked at encryption before and find myself in a situation that I have to encrypt my hard drive. I keep /, /boot, and swap outside LVM, everything else is under LVM. I think all I need to do is to encrypt /home which is

Re: [gentoo-user] tracking IT work

2012-03-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 09.03.2012 14:37, schrieb Stefan Schmiedl: Am 08.03.2012 20:00, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: oh, sorry, vi(m) here :-P I'm using a plain text file (ok |-separated values) for this and a single macro: imap localleaderm SPACE\| ESC=strftime(%Y-%m-%d %H:%M)CRpa¶ Then, in insert

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:27:05 -0400 (EDT) Daddy da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On March 11, 2012 at 5:09 AM Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:   This revision makes 2 changes... A) The removal of

Re: [gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

2012-03-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Tamer Higazi th9...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi people! I want to upgrade gnome 2.32 to gnome 3. First question, is it now officially supported by the gentoo team or should I keep my fingers away of it?!

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 07:27:05AM -0400, Daddy wrote Having personally long considered Lennart Poettering a 'spawn of the devil' my question is ... is this your reaction to systemd? It's my reaction to the Windows-isation and Firefox-isation of linux. So far I've managed to keep systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread Daddy
On March 11, 2012 at 10:17 AM Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:27:05 -0400 (EDT) Daddy da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On March 11, 2012 at 5:09 AM Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: This revision makes 2 changes... A) The

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread Daddy
On March 11, 2012 at 3:28 PM Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 07:27:05AM -0400, Daddy wrote Having personally long considered Lennart Poettering a 'spawn of the devil' my question is ... is this your reaction to systemd? It's my reaction to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread David Abbott
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Daddy da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: First, my class is old fart. Though I'm always in IRC, mailing lists and forums are more my speed. [snip] Kindest regards, Bruce Hill Hi Bruce, You are cordially invited to join the Gentoo Old Timers Club [1] All

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:37:26 -0400 (EDT) Daddy da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: We have spare parts so tomorrow I'll build a test machine. My Gentoo knowledge is quite limited, seeing as how we moved back after 9 years and had to start life over. But I can start by following this guide,

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:10:14 -0400 David Abbott da...@pythontoo.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Daddy da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: First, my class is old fart. Though I'm always in IRC, mailing lists and forums are more my speed. [snip] Kindest regards,

[gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-11 Thread walt
On 03/11/2012 05:16 AM, Jorge Martínez López wrote: Hi! Hi Jorge. I had some struggle with a separate /usr on top of LVM I'm just curious why you use a separate /usr, and why you are willing to struggle to keep it that way. Several people have posted opinions here in recent months, but I

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:10:14 -0400 David Abbott da...@pythontoo.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Daddy da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: First, my class is old fart. Though I'm always in IRC, mailing lists and forums are more my speed. [snip]

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread Walter Dnes
Correcting a typo pointed out in the earlier post today. This revision makes 2 changes... A) The removal of udev is now standard instead of optional. udev-181 and higher will be pulling in kmod, and anything else that kmod depends on. Removing udev will avoid unnecessary cruft on your

[gentoo-user] How are Fn-F# ACPI events mapped?

2012-03-11 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi, I'm trying to figure out how my Asus laptop maps function key events. This is being driven by an emerge message telling me that the acpi4asus package is being obsoleted and removed in 30 days and replaced by an in-kernel driver. I've removed the package and rebuilt my kernels to use this

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-11 Thread Alex Schuster
YoYo Siska writes: On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 03:35:05PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: I use an ext2 filesystem for portage, it's still the fastest out there. Journals are unnecessary because its such a small filesystem, and if it does get damaged I can just reformat and sync again. Replaying

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread Daddy
On March 11, 2012 at 4:10 PM David Abbott da...@pythontoo.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Daddy da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: First, my class is old fart. Though I'm always in IRC, mailing lists and forums are more my speed. [snip] Kindest regards, Bruce Hill

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread Daddy
On March 11, 2012 at 4:27 PM Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:37:26 -0400 (EDT) Daddy da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: We have spare parts so tomorrow I'll build a test machine. My Gentoo knowledge is quite limited, seeing as how we moved back

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:07:37 -0400 (EDT) Daddy da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On March 11, 2012 at 4:27 PM Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:37:26 -0400 (EDT) Daddy da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: We have spare parts so tomorrow

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread Daddy
On March 11, 2012 at 5:20 PM Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce, Aren't you a bit younger than me? If so, I'm a old fart too. ;-) [/Bruce] BTW folks, I have met Bruce, and family, in person and we have talked in various ways for years. We live about 75 miles apart. My lady

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

2012-03-11 Thread Dale
Daddy wrote: On March 11, 2012 at 5:20 PM Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce, Aren't you a bit younger than me? If so, I'm a old fart too. ;-) [/Bruce] BTW folks, I have met Bruce, and family, in person and we have talked in various ways for years. We live about 75 miles

[gentoo-user] Can I do a one-time boot to non-default kernel in Lilo?

2012-03-11 Thread Walter Dnes
Not exactly your typical remote machine, but the principle is the same. I have a dedicated HTPC machine next to my 50 plasma, connected by 50 feet of ethernet cable to my computer den. I use the TV as a monitor when running NHL GameCenter Live. I have Lilo set up to dual boot between a

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I do a one-time boot to non-default kernel in Lilo?

2012-03-11 Thread Bruce Hill, Jr.
On March 11, 2012 at 11:16 PM Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Not exactly your typical remote machine, but the principle is the same. I have a dedicated HTPC machine next to my 50 plasma, connected by 50 feet of ethernet cable to my computer den. I use the TV as a monitor when

[gentoo-user]Can't went to the xfce desktop directly

2012-03-11 Thread 赵佳晖
Hello , everyone . I have install the xfce-meta followed the xfce handbook . But when i restart the computer . And the login manager(slim) appeared. I just enter my account and passwd . After that . the computer have become black with a mouse icon like x . And i should use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to went

Re: [gentoo-user]Can't went to the xfce desktop directly

2012-03-11 Thread Willie Matthews
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:26:40 +0800 赵佳晖 jiahui.tar...@gmail.com wrote: Hello , everyone . I have install the xfce-meta followed the xfce handbook . But when i restart the computer . And the login manager(slim) appeared. I just enter my account and passwd . After that . the computer have