[gentoo-user] s6 et al

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[gentoo-user] salt has Gentoo support

I've been researching the very well-regarded configuration management framework 'salt' and I wanted to report that it has Gentoo support: Portage Config Module: http://docs.saltstack.com/ref/modules/all/salt.modules.portage_config.html Portage Config State: http://docs.saltstack.com/ref/states/al

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

Peter Weilbacher wrote: > On one of my machines, I get continuous beeping from the internal > loudspeaker when I boot a newer kernel (I'm using vanilla-sources). I > first had that with 3.10.8 and also with 3.10.10, and it continues > with 3.11.1. > > When I first had that problem I tried to remove

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:51:01 -0700, Greg Turner wrote: > I do think I vaguely recall that discussion about /var too though... > frankly, /var seems more sensible ... but maybe that's a can of worms > I should not be opening in this thread :) I think it was one of those discussion where every could

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 01/10/2013 20:48, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:15:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: >> >>> I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch >>> installation. >> >> Why? If ever there was a distro for people tha

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

On 01/10/2013 20:48, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:15:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch >> installation. > > Why? If ever there was a distro for people that didn't want to use > defaults, Gentoo is it. > >> Someon

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd installation location

On 2013-10-01 08:16, Alan McKinnon wrote: > There are many examples in /usr you could have used to illustrate your > point, such as many fuse modules. And yet you chose an imaginary space > invader game. > > Let's rather stick within the bounds of what is feasible, OK? What can I say, I like to

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

On 2013-09-26 15:24, the wrote: Might be related with some kind of io error. What does dmesg show? Nothing out of the ordinary. :-( Can it have something to do with the graphics card instead? Because it stops right when the screen blanks? Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

On 2013-09-26 15:35, Bruce Hill wrote: Check the manual for your BIOS/motherboard to see if it's some indication of hardware failure. Hmm, I'm sure that I have seen some beeps documented, but I cannot find that anywhere in the manual now. But I have a hard time believing that it's the hardwa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flexibility and robustness in the Linux organisim

On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 3:22 AM, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 2:31 PM, pk wrote: >> On 2013-09-30 00:04, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> It's the general idea that you can leave /usr unmounted until some >>> random arb time later in the startup sequence and just expect things to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flexibility and robustness in the Linux organisim

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 2:31 PM, pk wrote: > On 2013-09-30 00:04, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> It's the general idea that you can leave /usr unmounted until some >> random arb time later in the startup sequence and just expect things to >> work out fine that is broken. >> >> It just happened to work

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?

Am 01.10.2013 16:00, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5719 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 01) > > This is a 4-port NIC ... maybe I need some specific drivers and not only > the tg3-kernel-module? for the records and if someone wants to join in: recompiled the kernel

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:15:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch > installation. Why? If ever there was a distro for people that didn't want to use defaults, Gentoo is it. > Someone had to decide the defaults - so, what are they? Anyone?

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

Alan McKinnon wrote: >On 30/09/2013 19:31, Grant wrote: Keeping all of the laptops 100% identical as far as hardware is central to this plan. I know I'm setting myself up for big >problems otherwise. I'm hoping I can emerge every package on my laptop that every other

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers:legacy fail to build with kernel 3.12

Am 01.10.2013 10:00, schrieb Helmut Jarausch: > Hi, > > in "good" tradition the new 3.12 Linux kernel breaks ati-drivers > again (as always in the past). > Does anybody know about a patch to make > x11-drivers/ati-drivers:legacy > compile with linux-3.12-rc3 ? > > Trying to emerge ati-drivers-13.1

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

On 2013-10-01 10:14 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 10/01/2013 08:35 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: So... if the change from /usr/portage to /var/portage was official, is there any (official) documentation on precisely how to move it? Hmmm more importantly, when did this change occur? Is it possibly

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flexibility and robustness in the Linux organisim

Am 01.10.2013 01:21, schrieb Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike): > El 30/09/13 00:47, Volker Armin Hemmann escribió: >> Am 29.09.2013 18:41, schrieb Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike): >>> El 29/09/13 18:03, Volker Armin Hemmann escribió: Am 29.09.2013 17:12, schrieb Greg Woodbur

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

On 01/10/2013 17:17, Greg Turner wrote: > On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Bruce Hill > wrote: >> There are 3 (or more) computers which sync (sometimes daily) on my LAN at >> work: server, router, and workstation. server has issues almost all the time >> getting a rsync server (for lack of better w

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: > There are 3 (or more) computers which sync (sometimes daily) on my LAN at > work: server, router, and workstation. server has issues almost all the time > getting a rsync server (for lack of better way to state it). All three comps > have the exa

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 10:04:54 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > With portage-2.2 stable, you can now put sets in overlays. Nice! I missed that. -- Neil Bothwick System halted - Press all keys at once to continue. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-bin for stupid user

On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 16:52:53 +0200 (CEST), Alain Didierjean wrote: > I didn't solved my issue: I downloaded and installed gcc and gcc-config > from tinderbox and now the whole kde apps don't work, libc++ being out > of reach (it's in /usr/lib64 all right). What did I possibly mess up ? > I can't fi

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 16:11:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > So I split them up and rigged things so each category of thing is in > it's own distinct directory tree. Like I said earlier, they are just > paths and you can put them anywhere you like. You too can put yours > anywhere it makes sense to

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-bin for stupid user

- Mail original - > De: "Bruce Hill" > À: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Envoyé: Dimanche 29 Septembre 2013 21:53:39 > Objet: Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-bin for stupid user > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 04:44:29PM +0200, Alain Didierjean wrote: > > I'm in trouble for having stupidly unmerged g

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

On 01/10/2013 16:20, Bruce Hill wrote: > There are 3 (or more) computers which sync (sometimes daily) on my LAN at > work: server, router, and workstation. server has issues almost all the time > getting a rsync server (for lack of better way to state it). All three comps > have the exact same SYNC

[gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

There are 3 (or more) computers which sync (sometimes daily) on my LAN at work: server, router, and workstation. server has issues almost all the time getting a rsync server (for lack of better way to state it). All three comps have the exact same SYNC in make.conf: mingdao@server ~ $ grep SYNC /e

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:52:47 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-10-01 8:46 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> I know that it is probably trivial, but I like to read official docs > >> for things like this... > > > It is trivial. All that it is, is a path to where some stuff is. > > That's all, nothing

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

On 01/10/2013 15:52, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-10-01 8:46 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> I know that it is probably trivial, but I like to read official docs for >>> things like this... > >> It is trivial. All that it is, is a path to where some stuff is. That's >> all, nothing more. > > Ok, than

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

On 10/01/2013 08:35 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > > So... if the change from /usr/portage to /var/portage was official, is > there any (official) documentation on precisely how to move it? > > Hmmm more importantly, when did this change occur? Is it possibly > tied to portage 2.2? The reason I ask

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

Jumping in randomly: With portage-2.2 stable, you can now put sets in overlays. This has greatly simplified our shared configuration, because I can push out a base set of packages to every system just by including it in our overlay (which is configured on every machine). If you can push out packa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?

Am 01.10.2013 14:32, schrieb Nicolas Sebrecht: > The 01/10/13, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > >> I used split and tar to split the image-file into 100 MB parts and rsync >> them over right now. >> >> Maybe I have something wrong in my kernel ... the server shows a load of >> around 3 ... while only

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

On 2013-10-01 8:46 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: I know that it is probably trivial, but I like to read official docs for things like this... It is trivial. All that it is, is a path to where some stuff is. That's all, nothing more. Ok, thanks... but (call me anal, because I am) I still think th

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 08:35:16 -0400 Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-09-30 3:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 30/09/2013 19:25, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >> Alan wrote: > >>> Charles wrote: > But... is /usr/portage the default/recommended location? If so, > then I don't think I want t

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

On 01/10/2013 14:35, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-09-30 3:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 30/09/2013 19:25, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> Alan wrote: Charles wrote: > But... is /usr/portage the default/recommended location? If so, then I > don't think I want to move it - I generally

Re: [gentoo-user] SystemD + Gnome 3.8 I can log in as root but not as normal user

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Carlos Sura wrote: > Hello Mates, > > I finally thought that I got this working, so now I am dealing this issue: > I choose the latest kernel with systemd and GDM starts good, but I cannot > log in to gnome as a normal user, I can only log in to gnome as root. > > W

Re: [gentoo-user] SystemD + Gnome 3.8 I can log in as root but not as normal user

rm ~/.Xauthority Walter Dnes wrote: >On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 12:30:51AM -0600, Carlos Sura wrote >> Hello Mates, >> >> I finally thought that I got this working, so now I am dealing this >issue: >> I choose the latest kernel with systemd and GDM starts good, but I >cannot >> log in to gnome as

PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

On 2013-09-30 3:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 30/09/2013 19:25, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> Alan wrote: >>> Charles wrote: But... is /usr/portage the default/recommended location? If so, then I don't think I want to move it - I generally never change defaults unless there is a very good re

[gentoo-user] Re: Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?

The 01/10/13, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > I used split and tar to split the image-file into 100 MB parts and rsync > them over right now. > > Maybe I have something wrong in my kernel ... the server shows a load of > around 3 ... while only the rsync is running and my mosh-session ... > > This

Re: [gentoo-user] some of the stuff in /usr that's become a problem

On 01/10/2013 10:30, Greg Woodbury wrote: > All that is required is that the programs and libraries necessary to > locate and mount root and then to find and mount other filesystems be in > root. Please provide the full and complete list of all code on all Gentoo systems that are required in all

Re: [gentoo-user] some of the stuff in /usr that's become a problem

On 09/29/2013 11:40 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > You're right, though; it's a problem that lots of programs have. I > guess it's the natural result of modular software that has > interdependencies. You basically need *everything* available on boot. You don't need everything (obviously -- otherwis

Re: [gentoo-user] some of the stuff in /usr that's become a problem

On 09/29/2013 11:13 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 09:21:01PM -0500, Daniel Campbell wrote: >>> /usr/lib/udev. >>> /usr/lib/systemd. >>> >>> were both placed in /usr despite objections from a number of folks. >>> >>> So claims that udev and systemd are not responsible ar

Re: [gentoo-user] SystemD + Gnome 3.8 I can log in as root but not as normal user

On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 12:30:51AM -0600, Carlos Sura wrote > Hello Mates, > > I finally thought that I got this working, so now I am dealing this issue: > I choose the latest kernel with systemd and GDM starts good, but I cannot > log in to gnome as a normal user, I can only log in to gnome as ro

Re: [gentoo-user] Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?

Am 30.09.2013 22:03, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > I will simply let the scp take its time over night ... and I hope the > KVM-performance will be OK when I start the converted VM. I used split and tar to split the image-file into 100 MB parts and rsync them over right now. Maybe I have someth

Re: [gentoo-user] SystemD + Gnome 3.8 I can log in as root but not as normal user

Am 01.10.2013 09:07, schrieb Carlos Sura: In another note: I've just installed enlightenment and it works fine. Gnome works fine ONLY as root, but not as normal user. On 1 October 2013 01:06, Carlos Sura > wrote: Hello Jochen, Thank you for your

[gentoo-user] ati-drivers:legacy fail to build with kernel 3.12

Hi, in "good" tradition the new 3.12 Linux kernel breaks ati-drivers again (as always in the past). Does anybody know about a patch to make x11-drivers/ati-drivers:legacy compile with linux-3.12-rc3 ? Trying to emerge ati-drivers-13.1_pre897 (currently the only legacy driver) with 3.12-rc

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 23:07:14 -0700, Grant wrote: > Build time itself really isn't a big deal. I can have the > clients update overnight. Whether the clients emerge or emerge -K is > the same amount of admnistrative work I would think. I can think of one exception, the occasional ebuild that doe

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 22:36:34 -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > Do you have some alias causing df output to use -h or how does that > work? % alias df df='df --human-readable --no-sync --print-type' Or, to put it another way - Yes. -- Neil Bothwick X-Modem- A device on the losing end of an encounter

Re: [gentoo-user] Package Create on remote Host

On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 03:30:32 +0200, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote: > i have a Rootserver with Power. Can i built package on this Host and > send Package to my Notebooks? Can i built Packages on the Root without > local install? If you install into a chroot on the server, just like the first steps o

Re: [gentoo-user] SystemD + Gnome 3.8 I can log in as root but not as normal user

In another note: I've just installed enlightenment and it works fine. Gnome works fine ONLY as root, but not as normal user. On 1 October 2013 01:06, Carlos Sura wrote: > Hello Jochen, > > Thank you for your help. > > Here is the Xorg log: http://tny.cz/69b4662a > > Regarding the gdm session.l

Re: [gentoo-user] SystemD + Gnome 3.8 I can log in as root but not as normal user

Hello Jochen, Thank you for your help. Here is the Xorg log: http://tny.cz/69b4662a Regarding the gdm session.log I don't have it. Here is the /var/log/gdm/:0.log : http://tny.cz/35e886e2 Here is my emerge --info: http://tny.cz/10262247 On 1 October 2013 00:52, Jochen Kirchner wrote: > A