20.02.2014 09:24, Canek Peláez Valdés пишет:
[ snip ]
but I do not see the point, beyond as a nice gimmick.
Well, I *do* see a point. Many points, actually. You want the logs for
SSH, from February 12 to February 15? Done:
journalctl --since=2014-02-12 --until=2014-02-15 -u sshd.service
On 02/20/2014 12:53 AM, Facundo Curti
wrote:
I think a "more stable" distro is better for production.
My choice is debian. I think you cant find nothing more
stable that debian...
Gentoo makes the
The 20/02/14, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
Gentoo makes the best server os because it's a custom built os where the
admin knows each and every aspect of the os. Security wise, there are no
unwanted or unused stuff, so lesser bugs to deal with.
While I agree with the less code is less
The 20/02/14, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
(see [2]) will print the status of the Apache web server, and also the
last lines from the logs. You can control how many lines. You can
check also with the journal, as I showed up.
I believe it would be a 5-minutes job to add the capability of
20.02.2014 15:33, Nicolas Sebrecht пишет:
The 20/02/14, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
(see [2]) will print the status of the Apache web server, and also the
last lines from the logs. You can control how many lines. You can
check also with the journal, as I showed up.
I believe it would be a
On 2014-02-19 7:53 PM, Facundo Curti facu.cu...@gmail.com wrote:
This is true, but gentoo is a little unstable to use on production. The
system must be on 365 days/year. ¿and when you need to update the
system? This will use all the processor and the system will be
overloaded. This means users
On 2014-02-20 7:04 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-19 7:53 PM, Facundo Curti facu.cu...@gmail.com wrote:
This is true, but gentoo is a little unstable to use on production. The
system must be on 365 days/year. ¿and when you need to update the
system? This will use all
Hi,
I have a very simple question. How to emerge (update) all packages
which depend on some
given package P.
I've tried
emerge -uv1 `equery -q d P`
or emerge -uv1 `qdepends -q -Q P`
but both commands (equery and qdepends) generate a list with the
version attached like
On 2014-02-20 12:43 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-19 2:04 AM, Daniel Campbellli...@sporkbox.us wrote:
For such a profile to be legitimate, systemd would have to be chosen as
the default.
2014-02-20 13:38 GMT+01:00 Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de:
Hi,
I have a very simple question. How to emerge (update) all packages which
depend on some
given package P.
I've tried
emerge -uv1 `equery -q d P`
or emerge -uv1 `qdepends -q -Q P`
but both commands (equery and
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:38:06 +0100, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
Hi,
I have a very simple question. How to emerge (update) all packages
which depend on some
given package P.
I've tried
emerge -uv1 `equery -q d P`
or emerge -uv1 `qdepends -q -Q P`
but
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:38:06 +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
I've tried
emerge -uv1 `equery -q d P`
or emerge -uv1 `qdepends -q -Q P`
but both commands (equery and qdepends) generate a list with the
version attached like
app-editors/kile-2.1.3
which emerge doesn't like (unless
Hi,
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 07:40:59 +0800 Franklin Wang wrote:
I'm not familiar with gentoo server and cluster. So could you tell me
the experience about them? Thanks.
We have successful experience with Gentoo on both production servers
(someone call this area enterprise, though I dislike such
On 20/02/2014 11:16, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
20.02.2014 09:24, Canek Peláez Valdés пишет:
[ snip ]
but I do not see the point, beyond as a nice gimmick.
Well, I *do* see a point. Many points, actually. You want the logs for
SSH, from February 12 to February 15? Done:
journalctl
On 20/02/2014 13:53, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
I don't need such 'solutions' to non-existent problems. But if there
were a *real* necessity to pretty-print a log's tail in service status,
I think it would have been a matter of a proper setup (i.e. the service
using syslog, hence a defined log
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-20 12:43 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org
wrote:
On 2014-02-19 2:04 AM, Daniel Campbellli...@sporkbox.us wrote:
For
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:16 AM, Yuri K. Shatroff yks-...@yandex.ru wrote:
20.02.2014 09:24, Canek Peláez Valdés пишет:
[ snip ]
but I do not see the point, beyond as a nice gimmick.
Well, I *do* see a point. Many points, actually. You want the logs for
SSH, from February 12 to February
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 11:29:52 +0100 Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
The 20/02/14, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
Gentoo makes the best server os because it's a custom built os where the
admin knows each and every aspect of the os. Security wise, there are no
unwanted or unused stuff, so lesser
On 2014-02-20 10:55 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
while I agree with most everything you said, your primary point -
that it should be the people who *don't* want systemd doing all of
the work - was
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-20 10:55 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
wrote:
while I agree with most everything you said, your primary point -
that
Original Message
Subject: How about the gentoo server or cluster in production
environment?
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:41:28 +0800
From: Franklin Wang touch2...@gmail.com
To: gentoo-ser...@lists.gentoo.org, gentoo-clus...@lists.gentoo.org
Hi all,
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 08:52:07PM +0400, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
And this point is one of the highest security benefits in real world:
one have non-standard binaries, not available in the wild. Most
exploits will fail on such binaries even if vulnerability is still
there.
While excluding
On 20/02/2014 22:41, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 08:52:07PM +0400, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
And this point is one of the highest security benefits in real world:
one have non-standard binaries, not available in the wild. Most
exploits will fail on such binaries even if
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
wrote:
On 2014-02-20 1:36 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
The moment I saw that the profile is already done, I changed my
mind; the people using systemd ALREADY did the work (which seems to be
trivial, BTW; I
Hi all,
Does anyone know of any software that can create a bootable CD/DVD or
USB stick, that has a customizable menu that will let you boot pretty
much any ISO file you copy to the disk and point to with the menu?
It seems like I've seen something like this before, but all I can find
are
On 20 febbraio 2014 22:06:45 CET, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
Hi all,
Does anyone know of any software that can create a bootable CD/DVD or
USB stick, that has a customizable menu that will let you boot pretty
much any ISO file you copy to the disk and point to with the menu?
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-20 4:04 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
No, actually, I think whatever is defined as the current default should
dictate which group should be required to do the work.
I think this is where
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:06:45 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
Does anyone know of any software that can create a bootable CD/DVD or
USB stick, that has a customizable menu that will let you boot pretty
much any ISO file you copy to the disk and point to with the menu?
I tried something called
I thought I'd have another look at systemd, so switched profiles, made
sure I had all the kernel options needed and then did an emerge -uN world.
It seems the systemd profile masks the static and static-libs USE flags,
which are needed by crytsetup and lvm for my initramfs, which mounts /
from a
ons 2014-02-19 klockan 21:14 +0100 skrev Stefan G. Weichinger:
Am 19.02.2014 20:02, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
Yes, it can. But not in the obvious way.
Video cards and GPUs are complex devices implementing numerous
features. It is possible that your GPU/video card hardware is broken
wrt
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
I thought I'd have another look at systemd, so switched profiles, made
sure I had all the kernel options needed and then did an emerge -uN world.
It seems the systemd profile masks the static and static-libs USE flags,
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:48:01 +, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk
wrote:
I thought I'd have another look at systemd, so switched profiles, made
sure I had all the kernel options needed and then did an emerge -uN
world.
It seems the systemd profile masks the static and static-libs USE
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:38:46 -0600
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Tanstaafl
tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-20 4:04 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
No, actually, I think whatever is defined as the current default
On 02/15/2014 08:09 PM, walt wrote:
On 02/15/2014 12:30 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
The social
tactics at work from the systemd team (and verily, other Red Hat
projects like GNOME) are reminiscent of Microsoft through the use of the
Embrace, Extend, Extinguish methodology.
I certainly share
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:37:09 -0800
Michael Higgins li...@evolone.org wrote:
Okay, I'll go re-wire my tin hat now. Hope someone found this amusing.
One other thought I'd has was, well, as long as systemd doesn't, like,
implement some kind of net protocol, so to make it possible to ship
logs
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:59:39 -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote:
It seems the systemd profile masks the static and static-libs USE
flags, which are needed by crytsetup and lvm for my initramfs, which
mounts / from a LUKS partition. Forcing an unmask of these flags in
/etc/portage/profile did no
the advantage of clustering servers though is you can take one out and
update it. if you use a distributed compliation [1] and tell portage to
keep the binaries [2] you can take a few out and do them together, then the
remainder do not require compilation as the compile has been
It is True. I
On 21 Feb 2014 06:33, Facundo Curti facu.cu...@gmail.com wrote:
the advantage of clustering servers though is you can take one out and
update it. if you use a distributed compliation [1] and tell portage to
keep the binaries [2] you can take a few out and do them together, then the
remainder
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Michael Higgins li...@evolone.org wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:38:46 -0600
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Tanstaafl
tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-20 4:04 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
On 02/15/2014 08:09 PM, walt wrote:
On 02/15/2014 12:30 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
The social
tactics at work from the systemd team (and verily, other Red Hat
projects like GNOME) are reminiscent of Microsoft through
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Michael Higgins li...@evolone.org wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:37:09 -0800
Michael Higgins li...@evolone.org wrote:
Okay, I'll go re-wire my tin hat now. Hope someone found this amusing.
One other thought I'd has was, well, as long as systemd doesn't, like,
On 02/20/2014 07:42 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
On 02/15/2014 08:09 PM, walt wrote:
On 02/15/2014 12:30 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
The social
tactics at work from the systemd team (and verily, other Red Hat
projects
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
On 02/20/2014 07:42 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
On 02/15/2014 08:09 PM, walt wrote:
On 02/15/2014 12:30 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
The social
On 02/20/2014 08:53 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
On 02/20/2014 07:42 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
On 02/15/2014 08:09 PM, walt wrote:
On
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-20 12:43 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org
wrote:
On 2014-02-19 2:04 AM, Daniel Campbellli...@sporkbox.us wrote:
For
Mark David Dumlao wrote:
If udev wants systemd, and you don't, but you want to continue using
udev, it's _your_ job to look for a method or patch or package or
script that makes it work.
That's already done. It's called eudev. :-D
Dale
:-) :-)
--
I am only responsible for what I said
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:36:15 +0800 Mark David Dumlao wrote:
[...]
So, please, don't take it as an insult. In fact you have done a very good
job of patiently spelling out the advantages of systemd, to the point I'm no
longer afraid of it taking over and devouring the linux world.
If
20.02.2014 19:24, Alan McKinnon пишет:
On 20/02/2014 13:53, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
I don't need such 'solutions' to non-existent problems. But if there
were a *real* necessity to pretty-print a log's tail in service status,
I think it would have been a matter of a proper setup (i.e. the
Thanks for your help. The choice for HPC can be more free. I prepare to
try it in datacenter, for FTP first, and then web server, mail server
and so forth. Of course, I still think it's better to use rhel or suse
for database, CRM and others.
On 2014年02月20日 22:35, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
Hi,
Thanks a lot.
On 2014年02月21日 02:41, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
Original Message
Subject: How about the gentoo server or cluster in production
environment?
Date:Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:41:28 +0800
From:Franklin Wang touch2...@gmail.com
To:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:08:43 -0600 Daniel Campbell wrote:
It's marginally clever, but so clearly obvious at the same time. It's
sad (to me) that the community didn't see it coming. Those who did have
been written off as conspiracy theorists or FUDders. Time will reveal all.
Indeed time reveals
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