Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

2014-12-01 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:54 AM, »Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 07:43:21 +0300 Andrew Savchenko birc...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 17:32:08 +0100 Marc Stürmer wrote: Am 29.11.2014 um 11:11 schrieb Pandu Poluan: What do you think, people? Shouldn't we offer them

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

2014-12-01 Thread Marc Stürmer
Am 01.12.2014 um 09:22 schrieb Pandu Poluan: Actually, that's my point by saying offer: Rather than letting them build eudev from scratch, let's work together on the eudev we have, promote it to something distro-neutral, then let Gentoo and Devuan (and whatever other distros) derive from that

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

2014-12-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 13:01:33 +, Mick wrote: Nevertheless, I support moving away from a RHL sponsored monolithic binary and hopefully if not today it will happen eventually. systemd isn't monolithic so I can only assume you are referring to the

[gentoo-user] automated code validation

2014-12-01 Thread James
Howdy! Software validation has a long, often divisive history, we should all be aware of. I've seen several Computer Scientists (PH.Dumasses) go to fists over validation. It seems surreal now, but, it was hilarious at the time as none of the (3) involved in the fists_to_cuff had a clue about

[gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, another sigh from an Arietta adventure... I sintalled Gentoo on an Arietta G25 (http://www.acmesystems.it/arietta). For this I used Robert Nelsons Kernel for armv5tel platforms, which boots fine (using at91bootstrap, no U-Boot). But: Shutdown (as recommmended by acmesystems shutdown -h -H

[gentoo-user] Re: Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread James
meino.cramer at gmx.de writes: But: Shutdown (as recommmended by acmesystems shutdown -h -H now) REBOOTS the system instead of powering it down. What about halt? man halt What is the difference here? Isn't it, that all shutdown applications only send some instructions to the kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:46 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: What is the difference here? Isn't it, that all shutdown applications only send some instructions to the kernel and the kernel is the main actor in bringing the system down? About the only thing the kernel might have a role in is

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread Dale
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, another sigh from an Arietta adventure... I sintalled Gentoo on an Arietta G25 (http://www.acmesystems.it/arietta). For this I used Robert Nelsons Kernel for armv5tel platforms, which boots fine (using at91bootstrap, no U-Boot). But: Shutdown (as

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread meino . cramer
James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com [14-12-01 19:12]: meino.cramer at gmx.de writes: But: Shutdown (as recommmended by acmesystems shutdown -h -H now) REBOOTS the system instead of powering it down. What about halt? man halt What is the difference here? Isn't it, that all shutdown

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread meino . cramer
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [14-12-01 19:16]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, another sigh from an Arietta adventure... I sintalled Gentoo on an Arietta G25 (http://www.acmesystems.it/arietta). For this I used Robert Nelsons Kernel for armv5tel platforms, which boots fine (using

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread meino . cramer
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org [14-12-01 19:16]: On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:46 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: What is the difference here? Isn't it, that all shutdown applications only send some instructions to the kernel and the kernel is the main actor in bringing the system down?

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread Jc García
2014-12-01 12:40 GMT-06:00 meino.cra...@gmx.de: Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org [14-12-01 19:16]: On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:46 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: What is the difference here? Isn't it, that all shutdown applications only send some instructions to the kernel and the kernel is

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread meino . cramer
Jc García jyo.gar...@gmail.com [14-12-01 20:36]: 2014-12-01 12:40 GMT-06:00 meino.cra...@gmx.de: Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org [14-12-01 19:16]: On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:46 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: What is the difference here? Isn't it, that all shutdown applications only send

[gentoo-user] Custom ebuilds for CoreOS

2014-12-01 Thread James
Anyone know anything about coreos? Lookie lookie, they have ebuilds? python-oem-2.7.6-r1.ebuild [1] It clams to be 100% open source. It runs on bare metal, linux systems, clusters and clouds. It claims to have a much small footprint ~114 MB and boots very very fast via pxi(boot). Very

[gentoo-user] Re: Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread James
meino.cramer at gmx.de writes: But: Shutdown (as recommmended by acmesystems shutdown -h -H now) REBOOTS the system instead of powering it down. What about halt? man halt The problem I think is burried Okay, ferret it out. Does this accomplish what you want:

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, December 01, 2014 7:34:35 PM meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [14-12-01 19:16]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, another sigh from an Arietta adventure... I sintalled Gentoo on an Arietta G25 (http://www.acmesystems.it/arietta). For this I

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, December 01, 2014 7:34:35 PM meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [14-12-01 19:16]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, another sigh from an Arietta adventure... I sintalled Gentoo on an Arietta G25 (http://www.acmesystems.it/arietta). For this I

Re: [gentoo-user] Custom ebuilds for CoreOS

2014-12-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:46 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: It clams to be 100% open source. It runs on bare metal, linux systems, clusters and clouds. It claims to have a much small footprint ~114 MB and boots very very fast via pxi(boot). The whole idea of CoreOS is to be the host

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:51 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Jc García jyo.gar...@gmail.com [14-12-01 20:36]: I've not seen you using the -P flag. That's why the manufacturer of the Arietta G25 - Acmesystems said to use shutdown -h -H now for that purpose: http://www.acmesystems.it/qa

Re: [gentoo-user] Custom ebuilds for CoreOS

2014-12-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 1 Dec 2014 20:46:54 + (UTC), James wrote: I guess my take is that eventually, linux will be very small, embedded and a cluster/cloud environment is where most systems will plug in, kinda like most modern cell phones. Hopefully, there'll be a systemd centric version so that enables

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread Matti Nykyri
On Dec 1, 2014, at 23:03, Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote: On Monday, December 01, 2014 7:34:35 PM meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [14-12-01 19:16]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, another sigh from an Arietta adventure... I sintalled

[gentoo-user] Re: Custom ebuilds for CoreOS

2014-12-01 Thread James
Rich Freeman rich0 at gentoo.org writes: To me, it appears that some forward looking folks have forked (stolen the best parts?) gentoo, made some fundamental (long overdue changes) and are all about creating a source_to_cluster platform. (h, vaguely sounds

Re: [gentoo-user] Custom ebuilds for CoreOS

2014-12-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 1 Dec 2014 20:46:54 + (UTC), James wrote: I guess my take is that eventually, linux will be very small, embedded and a cluster/cloud environment is where most systems will plug in, kinda like most modern cell

[gentoo-user] virus/malware scanner for linux

2014-12-01 Thread Joseph
I know there are some command line virus/malware scanners for Linux? It has been long time ago since I run any of them, that I forgot their names :-/ What are they? -- Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] virus/malware scanner for linux

2014-12-01 Thread wraeth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/12/14 16:24, Joseph wrote: I know there are some command line virus/malware scanners for Linux? It has been long time ago since I run any of them, that I forgot their names :-/ What are they? This sounds like something Google can answer

Re: [gentoo-user] virus/malware scanner for linux

2014-12-01 Thread Dale
Joseph wrote: I know there are some command line virus/malware scanners for Linux? It has been long time ago since I run any of them, that I forgot their names :-/ What are they? Here is one that I have used in the past. http://www.f-prot.com/ It's no longer in the tree so not sure how