Re: [gentoo-user] USE=-libav ffmpeg

2015-02-10 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel

On 02/10/2015 09:13 AM, James wrote:
 Is this the best way to stay on ffmpeg?   (USE=-libav ffmpeg) ?

Yes, as far as I know. There was a news item not too long ago about
this; eselect news list gives a 2015-02-01  ffmpeg/libav conflict
management: USE=libav that you can read unless you've deleted it
already. TL;DR is that 'ffmpeg' enables ffmpeg/libav support, 'libav'
adds libav dependency, '-libav' adds ffmpeg dependency.

Alec



[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone familiar with virt-manager?

2015-02-10 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 02:43:30PM -0800, walt wrote:
 I just installed virt-manager to experiment with and this is the first
 time I've used it.  I think I've misconfigured something but I don't
 know what:

...

I'm running win7 just fine with these devices (virsh edit):

input type='mouse' bus='ps2'/
graphics type='vnc' port='-1' autoport='yes' listen='127.0.0.1'
  listen type='address' address='127.0.0.1'/
/graphics
sound model='ac97'
  address type='pci' domain='0x' bus='0x00' slot='0x04' 
function='0x0'/
/sound
video
  model type='vmvga' vram='9216' heads='1'/
  address type='pci' domain='0x' bus='0x00' slot='0x02' 
function='0x0'/
/video

I had a winXP with such configuration, AFAIR. Be care with the bus and
slot options to not take anything already assigned.

-- 
Nicolas Sebrecht



[gentoo-user] So emerge spoke ...

2015-02-10 Thread Meino . Cramer
Hi,

got thsi today instead of a smooth update

Diffing databases (17939 - 17932 packages)
[U]   == cross-armv7a-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi/linux-headers (3.18[?]@01/02/15; 
(~)3.18^bs - (~)3.19^bs) [1]: Linux system headers
[]  == cross-armv7a-softfp-linux-gnueabi/binutils ((~)2.19.1-r1(2.19.1) 
2.20.1-r1(2.20.1) 2.21.1-r1(2.21.1) 2.22-r1(2.22) 2.23.2(2.23.2) 2.24-r3 - 
(~)2.19.1-r1(2.19.1) 2.20.1-r1(2.20.1) 2.21.1-r1(2.21.1) 2.22-r1(2.22) 
2.23.2(2.23.2) 2.24-r3(2.24)) [1]: Tools necessary to build programs
[]   == dev-db/mariadb (10.0.15-r1 - 10.0.16): An enhanced, drop-in 
replacement for MySQL
[]   == dev-games/irrlicht (1.8-r2 - 1.8.1): open source high performance 
realtime 3D engine written in C++
[*]  == games-action/hotline-miami (~1.0.9a_p20140221^fd - 
1.0.9a_p20140221^fd): High-octane action game overflowing with raw brutality
[]   == games-arcade/lbreakout2 (2.6.3 - 2.6.4): Breakout clone written with 
the SDL library
[]   == games-engines/qtads (2.1.5 - 2.1.6): Multimedia interpreter for TADS 
text adventures
[*]  == games-puzzle/hexalate (~1.0.3 - 1.0.3): A color matching game
[*]  == games-puzzle/larry (~1-r1^fd - 1-r1^fd): Leisure Suit Larry Reloaded
[*]  == games-puzzle/nightsky (~20111222^fd - 20111222^fd): Puzzle game that 
puts you inside and ambient and mysterious universe
[*]  == games-puzzle/splice (~20121120^fd - 20121120^fd): An experimental and 
artistic puzzler set in a microbial world
[*]  == games-puzzle/tiny-and-big (~1.4.1^fd - 1.4.1^fd): Combines elements 
of adventure, jumprun and physical puzzles
[]   == games-puzzle/xblockout (1.1.5-r1 - 1.1.6): X Window block dropping 
game in 3 Dimension
[]   == net-misc/asterisk (11.14.2 - 11.15.0-r1): Asterisk: A Modular Open 
Source PBX System
[]   == x11-base/xorg-server (1.12.4-r3@01/27/15; 1.14.5(0/1.14.5) - 
1.12.4-r3(0/1.12.4)): X.Org X servers
   app-admin/lxqt-admin (~0.8.0): LXQt system administration tool
   net-misc/lxqt-openssh-askpass (~0.8.0): LXQt OpenSSH user password 
prompt tool
   x11-drivers/psb-firmware ({M}~*0.30_p3): firmware for the intel gma500 
(poulsbo)
   x11-drivers/xf86-video-cyrix ({M}1.1.0): Cyrix video driver
   x11-drivers/xf86-video-impact ({M}~*0.2.0): Impact video driver
   x11-drivers/xf86-video-nsc ({M}*2.8.3): Nsc video driver
   x11-drivers/xf86-video-sunbw2 ({M}*1.1.0): BW2 video driver
   x11-libs/libdrm-poulsbo ({M}~*2.3.0_p9 {M}~*2.3.0_p9-r1): libdrm for 
the intel gma500 (poulsbo)
   x11-libs/xpsb-glx ({M}~*0.18_p4): glx for the intel gma500 (poulsbo)
[N]lxqt-base/lxqt-admin (~0.8.0): LXQt system administration tool
[N]lxqt-base/lxqt-openssh-askpass (~0.8.0): LXQt OpenSSH user password 
prompt tool
 * Time statistics:
   133 seconds for syncing
   132 seconds for eix-update
 2 seconds for eix-diff
   268 seconds total

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[nomerge   ] media-video/get_flash_videos-1.24-r1  USE={-test} 
[ebuild U  ]  virtual/perl-Module-CoreList-5.20.1 [3.30.0] 0 KiB
[nomerge   ] perl-core/IO-Compress-2.60.0 
[ebuild U  ]  virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2-2.64.0 [2.60.0-r2] 0 KiB
[nomerge   ] mail-mta/msmtp-1.4.31-r1  USE=doc gnutls mta nls sasl ssl 
-gnome-keyring -idn -vim-syntax 
[nomerge   ]  virtual/texi2dvi-0 
[nomerge   ]   dev-texlive/texlive-texinfo-2012  USE=-doc -source 
[nomerge   ]app-text/texlive-core-2014-r1  USE=X tk -cjk -doc -source 
-xetex 
[ebuild  N ] dev-perl/perl-tk-804.32.0-r1  0 KiB
[nomerge   ] dev-perl/Data-AMF-0.90.0-r1  USE={-test} 
[nomerge   ]  dev-perl/DateTime-1.030.0  USE={-test} 
[nomerge   ]   dev-perl/Params-Validate-1.70.0-r1  USE={-test} 
[ebuild U  ]virtual/perl-Attribute-Handlers-0.960.0 [0.940.0-r1] 0 KiB
[nomerge   ] mail-filter/spamassassin-3.3.2-r5  USE=berkdb ipv6 ssl -doc 
-ldap -mysql -postgres -qmail -sqlite 
[ebuild U  ]  virtual/perl-Time-HiRes-1.972.600-r1 [1.972.500-r3] 0 KiB
[ebuild U  ]  virtual/perl-DB_File-1.831.0 [1.827.0-r2] 0 KiB
[nomerge   ] mail-filter/spamassassin-3.3.2-r5  USE=berkdb ipv6 ssl -doc 
-ldap -mysql -postgres -qmail -sqlite 
[nomerge   ]  dev-perl/Mail-DKIM-0.400.0 
[ebuild U  ]   virtual/perl-Digest-SHA-5.880.0 [5.820.0] 0 KiB
[nomerge   ] dev-vcs/git-cola-1.9.4  USE=-doc {-test} 
PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 
[ebuild UD ]  dev-python/jsonpickle-0.4.0-r1 [0.7.1] USE={-test} 
PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 (-pypy) (-python3_3%) (-python3_4%) 25 KiB
[nomerge   ] app-crypt/seahorse-3.12.2  USE=-avahi -debug -ldap 
[nomerge   ]  app-crypt/gcr-3.12.2:0/1  USE=gtk introspection vala -debug 
{-test} 
[ebuild U  ]   app-crypt/p11-kit-0.20.7 [0.20.2] USE=asn1 libffi%* trust 
-debug ABI_X86=(64%*) (-32) (-x32) 964 KiB
[ebuild U  ] net-irc/hexchat-2.10.2 [2.10.1] USE=dbus gtk ipv6 nls plugins 
ssl -libcanberra -libnotify -libproxy -ntlm -perl -plugin-checksum -plugin-doat 
-plugin-fishlim -plugin-sysinfo 

[gentoo-user] Re: USE=-libav ffmpeg

2015-02-10 Thread James
Alec Ten Harmsel alec at alectenharmsel.com writes:


  Is this the best way to stay on ffmpeg?   (USE=-libav ffmpeg) ?

 Yes, as far as I know. There was a news item 
 Alec

...need more caffiene.

James








[gentoo-user] Both ssh and nfs.mount are sending an obsolete ip address

2015-02-10 Thread walt
I just updated my older ~amd64 machine and I'm seeing weird behavior when
using nfs and ssh services to communicate with my newer ~amd64 machine.

Both mount.nfs and ssh are telling my newer machine that they are talking
from an obsolete ip address :/

To clarify:  my wireless router dispenses ip addresses based on some formula
I don't understand, but it clearly depends on which method each localhost
uses to contact the wireless router.

i.e. does it use dhcpcd, or dhcpd, or some other method invoked by systemd
or maybe wpa_supplicant?

So, looking at the system logs on the newer machine, I can see that the older
machine is advertising (somehow) that it's still using an ip address that *was*
correct in the past, but now my wireless router has assigned a newer one due to
some updated package (no idea which package).

To be specific:  nfs.mount is claiming that its clientaddr is the old address,
and ssh is claiming that its rhost is also the same old address.

So, how are these two different packages claiming the same, obsolete, ip 
address?
Where are they getting it?  It must be cached somewhere on the older machine, 
but
where?




Re: [gentoo-user] So emerge spoke ...

2015-02-10 Thread Chris McGinley

On 02/10/15 13:13, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
 Am Dienstag, 10. Februar 2015, 18:15:44 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:
 How can I list all offending ones?
 Check in /var/lib/portage/world if there are any lines starting with 
 perl-core

 If yes, remove these lines and try again.

I found the answers in this thread:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-997152-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-0.html



Re: [gentoo-user] So emerge spoke ...

2015-02-10 Thread Meino . Cramer
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org [15-02-10 17:12]:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 10:55 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 
(perl-core/Test-Simple-0.980.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
  perl-core/Test-Simple required by @selected
 
 
 I suspect that you probably have some perl packages that are 5.18-only
 in your world file.  Check and after removing them you'll probably
 have fewer blockers.
 
 
  I am simply overwelmed by this massive attack of information...
 
 
 Yeah, portage error messages tend to leave much to be desired.  I
 suspect there were some package renames here which didn't help, but I
 haven't investigated.
 
 -- 
 Rich
 

Hi Rich,

so I have to deinstall the half of the Perl stuff just to get updates?
Hrmmm

Emerge says ...and 154 more'

How can I list all offending ones?

Best regards,
mcc




Re: [gentoo-user] So emerge spoke ...

2015-02-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 12:15 PM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org [15-02-10 17:12]:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 10:55 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 
(perl-core/Test-Simple-0.980.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
  perl-core/Test-Simple required by @selected
 

 I suspect that you probably have some perl packages that are 5.18-only
 in your world file.  Check and after removing them you'll probably
 have fewer blockers.


 so I have to deinstall the half of the Perl stuff just to get updates?

You don't have to uninstall anything.  You just have to remove it from
your world file.


 Emerge says ...and 154 more'

 How can I list all offending ones?


grep perl /var/lib/portage/world would be a good start.

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] eudev

2015-02-10 Thread Dale
James wrote:
 Hello


 So, I've been wanting to test eudev for a while now. I found these
 instructions in many places, so I have it a whirl:

 # emerge -Ca udev 
 # emerge -1a eudev 
 # etc-update 
 # emerge @preserved-rebuild

 Problem is I had the 'udev' flag set in the make.conf, so it just
 reinstalled udev (216). so I figured I'd better ask about the 
 convsion of udev-216 to eudev-1.10-r2  (stable) or if I should
 run eudev-2.1.1 ?

 Beside also removing the 'udev' flag, do I have any other issues
 or caveats? I'd like to also go with manually naming the ethernet
 interfaces under eudev; I have not found any specific docs on that
 either.

 Discussion and Suggestions are most welcome.


 James




I switched a good while back so this may be a bit fuzzy.  I'm running
eudev-2.1.1 here with no issues.  I don't have anything in my USE flag
about udev and everything I plug in is managed just fine.  I'm pretty
sure your commands above is all I used as well.  I don't recall running
anything outside the norm. 

Basically, after you switch, the OS doesn't see anything different.  On
mine here, even the init scripts have the same name.  I was sort of
expecting them to change from udev to eudev but it didn't. 

If something is pulling udev back in, may want to add the -t option to
emerge and see what is pulling it in. 

Hope that helps.

Dale

:-)  :-) 




[gentoo-user] x2go - logout full screen mode

2015-02-10 Thread Joseph

I've tried to run x2go in full screen mode, but I have no clue how to log out 
from full screen mode or close the session.


--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-10 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 10 Feb 2015 03:36:19 Philip Webb wrote:

 Dec 31 19:00:29 localhost dhcpcd[1346]: enp1s0: using IPv4LL address 
 169.254.91.169

Your netbook has it enabled.  It self-configures an IP address and then every 
so many seconds broadcasts on the wire to find if there is a DHCP server 
listening.  When it finds one it requests an IP address from it.

Your desktop hasn't.  When the link comes up again nothing kicks in to either 
request an IP address from the DHCP server, or to self-configure one 
temporarily.  Either enable IPv4LL, or install ifplug/netplug to achieve the 
same end result.

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] So emerge spoke ...

2015-02-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Dienstag, 10. Februar 2015, 18:15:44 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:
 
 How can I list all offending ones?

Check in /var/lib/portage/world if there are any lines starting with 
perl-core

If yes, remove these lines and try again.

-- 

Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer 
dilfri...@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/




Re: [gentoo-user] So emerge spoke ...

2015-02-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 10:55 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

   (perl-core/Test-Simple-0.980.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
 perl-core/Test-Simple required by @selected


I suspect that you probably have some perl packages that are 5.18-only
in your world file.  Check and after removing them you'll probably
have fewer blockers.


 I am simply overwelmed by this massive attack of information...


Yeah, portage error messages tend to leave much to be desired.  I
suspect there were some package renames here which didn't help, but I
haven't investigated.

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: eudev

2015-02-10 Thread Dale
James wrote:
 Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes:

 Basically, after you switch, the OS doesn't see anything different.  On
 mine here, even the init scripts have the same name.  I was sort of
 expecting them to change from udev to eudev but it didn't. 
 Good to know. Any mods to any of those udev-init-scripts or are they the
 same_same ?

I think it replaces it but I'm not sure.  I didn't look to see what the
old looked like before switching.  I don't recall it wanting to change
it when I ran dispatch-conf either.  It has been a while back tho. 


 If something is pulling udev back in, may want to add the -t option to
 emerge and see what is pulling it in. 
 Yea, it was late, I was tired and often premature_alzheimers is not
 really premature..

 Dale
 thx,
 James


I hear you on that.  I think it hits me double at times.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-10 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 11 Feb 2015 00:43:22 Philip Webb wrote:
 150210 Mick wrote:
  Your desktop hasn't.  When the link comes up again nothing kicks in
  to either request an IP address from the DHCP server
  or to self-configure one temporarily.  Either enable IPv4LL
  or install ifplug/netplug to achieve the same end result.
  
  On Tuesday 10 Feb 2015 22:36:00 Philip Webb wrote:
  Thanks for the suggestion, but I still don't know how to proceed.
  
  If you are using dhcpcd it is enabled by default,
  unless you use -L (-- noipv4ll) in /etc/conf.d/net
  Have you disabled this in your desktop, or are you not using dhcpcd?
 
 Thanks for your patient help (big smile).
 AFAICS the config of both machines is the same.
 What I have realised (red face) is that while there is a difference,
 it is not in resuming the connection after an un/replug,
 but in starting Dhcpcd after a reboot :
 both machines automatically pick up the connection again after an unplug,
 but the netbook starts Dhcpcd automatically after each boot,
 whereas the desktop needs to be told to do so via 'dhcpcd'.
 
 I've searched again for something different between the machines
 which would explain why one starts Dhcpcd without being told,
 but the other doesn't : I can't see any difference.
 'grep -r dhcp *' in  /etc  gives the same  2  lines in both machines ;
 the netbook's  syslog  shows it starting Dhcpcd immediately after boot,
 while the desktop's  syslog  shows nothing till I enter 'dhcpcd'.
 
 IIRC the change happened after the recent update of the netbook,
 which I try to keep as close to the desktop system as is possible
 (the hardware is different  the netbook doesn't use KDE apps etc).
 
 Can anyone suggest what mb starting Dhcpcd automatically ?
 The logs just show it happening  Htop doesn't show it depending on
 anything.

Just checking:  are your hotplug settings the same between the two machines in 
/etc/rc.conf?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] old EEE PC 1000

2015-02-10 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 10 Feb 2015 12:46:47 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 19:06:15 -0700, Joseph wrote:
  I've tried xubuntu but I can not install freenx on it.  The
  documentation doesn't exist and it is not in default repository. What
  alternatives are there.  I know Gentoo might work, I would need to boot
  strap, configure kernel and setup distcc, one week work.
 
 Instead of installing in a chroot on the netbook, create the chroot on a
 faster machine. You don't even need an install CD that way, just run
 everything while still using the system. When installation is complete,
 rsync the chroot to the root filesystem of the netbook.

I can see this being attractive for Rasberry Pi2.  Has anyone installed Gentoo 
on it yet and would you know if there are any binaries available?

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-10 Thread Philip Webb
150210 Mick wrote:
 On Tuesday 10 Feb 2015 03:36:19 Philip Webb wrote:
 Dec 31 19:00:29 localhost dhcpcd[1346]:
   enp1s0: using IPv4LL address 169.254.91.169
 Your netbook has it enabled.  It self-configures an IP address
 and then every so many seconds broadcasts on the wire
 to find if there is a DHCP server listening.
 When it finds one it requests an IP address from it.
 
 Your desktop hasn't.  When the link comes up again nothing kicks in
 to either request an IP address from the DHCP server
 or to self-configure one temporarily.  Either enable IPv4LL
 or install ifplug/netplug to achieve the same end result.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I still don't know how to proceed.
I assume that the absence of the line above + this line

  Dec 31 19:00:29 localhost dhcpcd[1346]:
enp1s0: adding route to 169.254.0.0/16

results in the desktop machine killing the Dhcpcd process :

  # PP : 'ioff', remove conn'n
  dhcpcd[11404]: sending signal ARLM to pid 997
  dhcpcd[11404]: waiting for pid 997 to exit
  dhcpcd[997]: received signal ALRM from PID 11404, releasing
  dhcpcd[997]: enp5s0: removing interface
  dhcpcd[997]: enp5s0: releasing lease of 192.168.1.2
  dhcpcd[997]: enp5s0: deleting route to 192.168.1.0/24
  dhcpcd[997]: enp5s0: deleting default route via 192.168.1.1
  dhcpcd[997]: exited

which then has to be restarted via 'dhcpcd' after replugging the conn'n.

However, even after searching thro'  /etc  again, Googling etc,
AFAICS there's no difference in config files between the  2  machines.
So how do I enable IPv4LL' (smile) ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-10 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 10 Feb 2015 22:36:00 Philip Webb wrote:
 150210 Mick wrote:
  On Tuesday 10 Feb 2015 03:36:19 Philip Webb wrote:
  Dec 31 19:00:29 localhost dhcpcd[1346]:
enp1s0: using IPv4LL address 169.254.91.169
  
  Your netbook has it enabled.  It self-configures an IP address
  and then every so many seconds broadcasts on the wire
  to find if there is a DHCP server listening.
  When it finds one it requests an IP address from it.
  
  Your desktop hasn't.  When the link comes up again nothing kicks in
  to either request an IP address from the DHCP server
  or to self-configure one temporarily.  Either enable IPv4LL
  or install ifplug/netplug to achieve the same end result.
 
 Thanks for the suggestion, but I still don't know how to proceed.
 I assume that the absence of the line above + this line
 
   Dec 31 19:00:29 localhost dhcpcd[1346]:
 enp1s0: adding route to 169.254.0.0/16
 
 results in the desktop machine killing the Dhcpcd process :
 
   # PP : 'ioff', remove conn'n
   dhcpcd[11404]: sending signal ARLM to pid 997
   dhcpcd[11404]: waiting for pid 997 to exit
   dhcpcd[997]: received signal ALRM from PID 11404, releasing
   dhcpcd[997]: enp5s0: removing interface
   dhcpcd[997]: enp5s0: releasing lease of 192.168.1.2
   dhcpcd[997]: enp5s0: deleting route to 192.168.1.0/24
   dhcpcd[997]: enp5s0: deleting default route via 192.168.1.1
   dhcpcd[997]: exited
 
 which then has to be restarted via 'dhcpcd' after replugging the conn'n.
 
 However, even after searching thro'  /etc  again, Googling etc,
 AFAICS there's no difference in config files between the  2  machines.
 So how do I enable IPv4LL' (smile) ?

If you are using dhcpcd it is enabled by default, unless you use -L (--
noipv4ll) in /etc/conf.d/net

Have you disabled this in your desktop, or are you not using dhcpcd?

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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine -- nxserver-freenx

2015-02-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does it work: client-side-rendering.  Is there a solution on Gentoo.


Client-side rendering works just fine with NX (including x2go).  You
just have to watch your screen paint every time you scroll an
application like chrome that uses it.  Instead of sending the text
your X client sends NX an image, just like VNC.

So, NX with client-side rendering works just like VNC, which makes it
horrible over a WAN.  However, it still works.


-- 
Rich



[gentoo-user] Re: eudev

2015-02-10 Thread James
Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes:

 Basically, after you switch, the OS doesn't see anything different.  On
 mine here, even the init scripts have the same name.  I was sort of
 expecting them to change from udev to eudev but it didn't. 

Good to know. Any mods to any of those udev-init-scripts or are they the
same_same ?

 If something is pulling udev back in, may want to add the -t option to
 emerge and see what is pulling it in. 

Yea, it was late, I was tired and often premature_alzheimers is not
really premature..

 Dale

thx,
James








Re: [gentoo-user] old EEE PC 1000

2015-02-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 19:06:15 -0700, Joseph wrote:

 I've tried xubuntu but I can not install freenx on it.  The
 documentation doesn't exist and it is not in default repository. What
 alternatives are there.  I know Gentoo might work, I would need to boot
 strap, configure kernel and setup distcc, one week work.

Instead of installing in a chroot on the netbook, create the chroot on a
faster machine. You don't even need an install CD that way, just run
everything while still using the system. When installation is complete,
rsync the chroot to the root filesystem of the netbook.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Hospitality:  making your guests feel like they're at home, even if you
wish they were.


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Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-10 Thread Philip Webb
150210 Mick wrote:
 Your desktop hasn't.  When the link comes up again nothing kicks in
 to either request an IP address from the DHCP server
 or to self-configure one temporarily.  Either enable IPv4LL
 or install ifplug/netplug to achieve the same end result.
 On Tuesday 10 Feb 2015 22:36:00 Philip Webb wrote:
 Thanks for the suggestion, but I still don't know how to proceed.
 If you are using dhcpcd it is enabled by default,
 unless you use -L (-- noipv4ll) in /etc/conf.d/net
 Have you disabled this in your desktop, or are you not using dhcpcd?

Thanks for your patient help (big smile).
AFAICS the config of both machines is the same.
What I have realised (red face) is that while there is a difference,
it is not in resuming the connection after an un/replug,
but in starting Dhcpcd after a reboot :
both machines automatically pick up the connection again after an unplug,
but the netbook starts Dhcpcd automatically after each boot,
whereas the desktop needs to be told to do so via 'dhcpcd'.

I've searched again for something different between the machines
which would explain why one starts Dhcpcd without being told,
but the other doesn't : I can't see any difference.
'grep -r dhcp *' in  /etc  gives the same  2  lines in both machines ;
the netbook's  syslog  shows it starting Dhcpcd immediately after boot,
while the desktop's  syslog  shows nothing till I enter 'dhcpcd'.

IIRC the change happened after the recent update of the netbook,
which I try to keep as close to the desktop system as is possible
(the hardware is different  the netbook doesn't use KDE apps etc).

Can anyone suggest what mb starting Dhcpcd automatically ?
The logs just show it happening  Htop doesn't show it depending on anything.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone familiar with virt-manager?

2015-02-10 Thread walt
On 02/10/2015 06:41 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 02:43:30PM -0800, walt wrote:
 I just installed virt-manager to experiment with and this is the first
 time I've used it.  I think I've misconfigured something but I don't
 know what:
 
 ...
 
 I'm running win7 just fine with these devices (virsh edit):
 
 input type='mouse' bus='ps2'/
 graphics type='vnc' port='-1' autoport='yes' listen='127.0.0.1'
   listen type='address' address='127.0.0.1'/
 /graphics
 sound model='ac97'
   address type='pci' domain='0x' bus='0x00' slot='0x04' 
 function='0x0'/
 /sound
 video
   model type='vmvga' vram='9216' heads='1'/
   address type='pci' domain='0x' bus='0x00' slot='0x02' 
 function='0x0'/
 /video
 
 I had a winXP with such configuration, AFAIR. Be care with the bus and
 slot options to not take anything already assigned.

Thanks, Nicolas.  I also have a qemu guest win7 image, and the mouse capture 
works
as expected when I run it with virt-manager.  No idea why winXP behaves 
differently,
though.

I notice that virt-manager runs qemu without the -enable-kvm flag, and win7 runs
significantly slower because of that.  Is there some way to convince 
virt-manager
to use the -enable-kvm option?





[gentoo-user] x2go unreadable fonts

2015-02-10 Thread Joseph

I tired x2go connecting xubuntu (client) to Gentoo (server) but the fonts are 
unreadable, I'm using xfce
Is it a problem with the client or the server?

nxserver-freenx works perfectly on Gentoo but I couldn't install nxclient 
on xubuntu.

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Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine -- nxserver-freenx

2015-02-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm still using nxserver-freenx and nxclient they are working OK with
 XFCE
 and they are still valid packages.

 Does it mean, they might be pulled out of gentoo packages?
 Is x2go stable on XFCE4?


I've had my share of issues with both.  I doubt that anybody is going
to get rid of nx just to do it.  However, it has been fairly dead
upstream and that probably means all the usual kinds of issues (maybe
some dependency update will break it, etc).  If I were still actively
using it I'd be looking for alternatives, though to be honest there
aren't really many out there.

It seems like everybody has been moving more and more towards things
like client-side-rendering, hardware acceleration, and so on.  The
experience on NX was slowly becoming a lot more like VNC anyway.

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Rich



[gentoo-user] USE=-libav ffmpeg

2015-02-10 Thread James

Is this the best way to stay on ffmpeg?   (USE=-libav ffmpeg) ?

I intend to switch (later) but it's a bit of work/risk for
my interfaced audio hacked/equipment, for now. 

Currently ,I have USE=ffmpeg.


Updates seem to be pulling in lots of libav stuff.


James




Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine -- nxserver-freenx

2015-02-10 Thread Joseph

On 02/10/15 09:07, Rich Freeman wrote:

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:


I'm still using nxserver-freenx and nxclient they are working OK with
XFCE
and they are still valid packages.

Does it mean, they might be pulled out of gentoo packages?
Is x2go stable on XFCE4?



I've had my share of issues with both.  I doubt that anybody is going
to get rid of nx just to do it.  However, it has been fairly dead
upstream and that probably means all the usual kinds of issues (maybe
some dependency update will break it, etc).  If I were still actively
using it I'd be looking for alternatives, though to be honest there
aren't really many out there.

It seems like everybody has been moving more and more towards things
like client-side-rendering, hardware acceleration, and so on.  The
experience on NX was slowly becoming a lot more like VNC anyway.


How does it work: client-side-rendering.  Is there a solution on Gentoo.

For me nxserver-freenx still works perfectly on Gentoo but I couldn't get 
nxclient to work on xubuntu.

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Joseph