Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

2017-12-06 Thread Richard Bradfield
On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 06:35:10PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:28 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: I don’t really care about performance. It’s a simple media archive powered by the cheapest Haswell Celeron I could get (with 16 Gigs of ECC RAM though ^^).

[gentoo-user] preparing for profile switch -- major problem

2017-12-06 Thread John Covici
Hi. In preparing for the profile switch and the emerge -e world, I have run into a serious problem with perl. I think I saw on this list where perl 5.26 was going to have problems -- maybe until it is stabilized -- but if I mask it off, I get the following: !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy

Re: [gentoo-user] switch to profile 17.0 complete, completely painless

2017-12-06 Thread Dale
Andrés Becerra Sandoval wrote: > > > 2017-12-06 2:18 GMT-05:00 Dale >: > > Raffaele Belardi wrote: > > One (~x86) LXDE system completed the switch with no problem, the > other (~amd64) built all > > except two packaged (sdlmame

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-06 Thread Corbin
On 12/05/2017 02:45 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/05/2017 03:26 PM, Corbin wrote: >> In "packages" that throw out the "CFLAGS / CXXFLAGS" values in the >> end-users "make.conf" and substitute their own ... how will that be handled? >> > The GCC ebuilds all use toolchain.eclass which is

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

2017-12-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 06:35:10PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> IMO the cost savings for parity RAID trumps everything unless money >> just isn't a factor. > > Cost saving compared to what? In my four-bay-scenario,

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

2017-12-06 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 06:35:10PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:28 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > > I don’t really care about performance. It’s a simple media archive powered > > by the cheapest Haswell Celeron I could get (with 16 Gigs of ECC RAM

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

2017-12-06 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sun, Dec 03, 2017 at 04:26:55AM +0100, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > If the compilation will fail at a certain point (and it will fail, > since this is a complete new thing) -- would it be possible to resume > even some tweaks, hacks and patches (even certain recompilations) > would be needed in

[gentoo-user] Re: is multi-core really worth it?

2017-12-06 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-06 16:07, Wols Lists wrote: > The contents of /var/tmp are expected to survive a system crash, as that > is where vi, emacs, libreoffice et al are expected to store their > recovery logs. The case of vi has recently been discussed extensively on oss-security :-P As for emacs, that's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Puzzled with duration of chromium emerge under profile 17.0

2017-12-06 Thread Mick
On Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:01:25 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2017-12-06, Mick wrote: > > I discovered that building Chromium with gcc-6.4.0 is taking an > > inordinately> > > longer time on a laptop with 1st gen i7 and 4G of RAM, e.g.: [snip ...] > Did the CPU

Re: [gentoo-user] Puzzled with duration of chromium emerge under profile 17.0

2017-12-06 Thread Mick
On Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:13:50 GMT Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 06/12/2017 21:10, Mick wrote: > > I discovered that building Chromium with gcc-6.4.0 is taking an > > inordinately> > > longer time on a laptop with 1st gen i7 and 4G of RAM, e.g.: [snip...] > Pure gut feel and intuition and

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

2017-12-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:28 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > I don’t really care about performance. It’s a simple media archive powered > by the cheapest Haswell Celeron I could get (with 16 Gigs of ECC RAM though > ^^). Sorry if I more or less stole the thread, but this is almost

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

2017-12-06 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 12:14:12PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Wols Lists wrote: > > On 27/11/17 22:30, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > >> […] > >> Is anyone here successfully using btrfs raid 5/6? What is the status of > >> scrub and self

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/05/2017 04:13 PM, Mick wrote: > > I just noticed chromium shows (pic) in brackets, which I assume it means > forced. > Yep. That information is hidden deep down in the "emerge" man page... --verbose [ y | n ] (-v short option) Tell emerge to run in verbose mode. Currently this

Re: [gentoo-user] switch to profile 17.0 complete, completely painless

2017-12-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 18:20:54 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I had trouble with qtwebengine. It seemed to be an issue with icu-60.* > but I wasn't prepared to downgrade to icu-59.* just as a test (icu > changes here tend to trigger a rebuild of half of world), and a recent > bug on b.g.o. backed up

[gentoo-user] Re: Puzzled with duration of chromium emerge under profile 17.0

2017-12-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2017-12-06, Mick wrote: > I discovered that building Chromium with gcc-6.4.0 is taking an inordinately > longer time on a laptop with 1st gen i7 and 4G of RAM, e.g.: > > Wed Sep 27 17:36:53 2017 >>> www-client/chromium-61.0.3163.100 >merge time: 6

Re: [gentoo-user] Puzzled with duration of chromium emerge under profile 17.0

2017-12-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/12/2017 21:10, Mick wrote: > I discovered that building Chromium with gcc-6.4.0 is taking an inordinately > longer time on a laptop with 1st gen i7 and 4G of RAM, e.g.: > > Wed Sep 27 17:36:53 2017 >>> www-client/chromium-61.0.3163.100 >merge time: 6 hours, 40 minutes and 50

Re: [gentoo-user] switch to profile 17.0 complete, completely painless

2017-12-06 Thread Daniel Frey
On 12/06/17 08:41, Mick wrote: On Wednesday, 6 December 2017 15:36:19 GMT Daniel Frey wrote: On 12/05/17 23:00, Raffaele Belardi wrote: One (~x86) LXDE system completed the switch with no problem, the other (~amd64) built all except two packaged (sdlmame and torcs) which did not build with

[gentoo-user] Puzzled with duration of chromium emerge under profile 17.0

2017-12-06 Thread Mick
I discovered that building Chromium with gcc-6.4.0 is taking an inordinately longer time on a laptop with 1st gen i7 and 4G of RAM, e.g.: Wed Sep 27 17:36:53 2017 >>> www-client/chromium-61.0.3163.100 merge time: 6 hours, 40 minutes and 50 seconds. Thu Nov 9 17:44:58 2017 >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge --info

2017-12-06 Thread Adam Carter
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Martin Vaeth wrote: > Adam Carter wrote: > > so why have it if you force it off? > > One thing is the ebuild and the other is the profile: > It might be different in a different profile Ok ill have a look though the

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --info

2017-12-06 Thread Adam Carter
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 2:36 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 06/12/2017 04:31, Adam Carter wrote: > > Does the output reflect; > > 1. What will be used for the next build > > 2. What was used on the last successful build > > 3. What was used on the last build attempt > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

2017-12-06 Thread Kai Peter
On 2017-12-06 16:34, Alan McKinnon wrote: And just to round off a mostly pointless discussion with little real merit, the really stupid thing about portage is why oh why are ports and distfiles in /usr? I'm really surprised that someone recognized this or may be does question this.

Re: [gentoo-user] switch to profile 17.0 complete, completely painless

2017-12-06 Thread Mick
On Wednesday, 6 December 2017 15:36:19 GMT Daniel Frey wrote: > On 12/05/17 23:00, Raffaele Belardi wrote: > > One (~x86) LXDE system completed the switch with no problem, the other > > (~amd64) built all except two packaged (sdlmame and torcs) which did not > > build with gcc-7.2 even before the

Re: [gentoo-user] Sandbox violations when installing a Python package

2017-12-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/06/2017 11:09 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > But then using this version of imapclient fails since it wants > dev-python/backports-ssl (from PyPi). > But dev-python/backports-ssl-0.0.9 doesn't install here before a name > clash with dev-python/backports-1.0. > And no, this version of

Re: [gentoo-user] switch to profile 17.0 complete, completely painless

2017-12-06 Thread Andrés Becerra Sandoval
El dic 6, 2017 11:20 AM, "Helmut Jarausch" escribió: On 12/06/2017 04:38:02 PM, Andrés Becerra Sandoval wrote: > > I'm having trouble with these: > > net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.11-r200 > this needs an addtional patch webkit-gtk-2.4.11-icu59.patch which I've attached

Re: [gentoo-user] switch to profile 17.0 complete, completely painless

2017-12-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/12/2017 17:38, Andrés Becerra Sandoval wrote: > > > 2017-12-06 2:18 GMT-05:00 Dale >: > > Raffaele Belardi wrote: > > One (~x86) LXDE system completed the switch with no problem, the > other (~amd64) built all > > except

Re: [gentoo-user] switch to profile 17.0 complete, completely painless

2017-12-06 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 12/06/2017 04:38:02 PM, Andrés Becerra Sandoval wrote: I'm having trouble with these: net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.11-r200 this needs an addtional patch webkit-gtk-2.4.11-icu59.patch which I've attached dev-qt/qtwebengine-5.9.3 This needs a tiny change, I've attached

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

2017-12-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/12/17 15:34, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Those guidelines you mention about what /tmp and /var/tmp are "for" are > probably from the FHS. On the whole, I tend to agree they are good ideas > but the proper wording is more like this (from memory, being far too > lazy after a day's work to actually

Re: [gentoo-user] Sandbox violations when installing a Python package

2017-12-06 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 12/06/2017 03:32:12 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 12/06/2017 09:08 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > I hope somebody can help me. > > I've written a new ebuild for "dev-python/imapclient-1.1.0" (the > latest version in the tree is version 0.13)... > > Ebuilding this packages dies of a

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

2017-12-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/12/17 15:34, Alan McKinnon wrote: > - contents of /tmp are not expected to survive the invocation of the > program that created them > - contents of /var/tmp are not expected to survive a reboot That sounds completely wrong, actually. The contents of /var/tmp are expected to survive a

Re: [gentoo-user] switch to profile 17.0 complete, completely painless

2017-12-06 Thread Dale
Andrés Becerra Sandoval wrote: > > > 2017-12-06 2:18 GMT-05:00 Dale >: > > Raffaele Belardi wrote: > > One (~x86) LXDE system completed the switch with no problem, the > other (~amd64) built all > > except two packaged (sdlmame

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --info

2017-12-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/12/2017 04:31, Adam Carter wrote: > Does the output reflect; > 1. What will be used for the next build > 2. What was used on the last successful build > 3. What was used on the last build attempt > > If its 1 or 3, then USE=custom-cflags does not work on firefox... It reflects what is

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

2017-12-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/12/2017 15:29, Wols Lists wrote: > On 05/12/17 21:56, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Tue, 05 Dec 2017 10:09:56 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> >>> $ grep tmpfs /etc/fstab >>> tmpfs /var/tmp/portage tmpfs >>> noatime,uid=portage,gid=portage,mode=0775 0 0 >>> tmpfs /tmp

Re: [gentoo-user] switch to profile 17.0 complete, completely painless

2017-12-06 Thread Andrés Becerra Sandoval
2017-12-06 2:18 GMT-05:00 Dale : > Raffaele Belardi wrote: > > One (~x86) LXDE system completed the switch with no problem, the other > (~amd64) built all > > except two packaged (sdlmame and torcs) which did not build with gcc-7.2 > even before the > > switch to 17.0. > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] switch to profile 17.0 complete, completely painless

2017-12-06 Thread Daniel Frey
On 12/05/17 23:00, Raffaele Belardi wrote: One (~x86) LXDE system completed the switch with no problem, the other (~amd64) built all except two packaged (sdlmame and torcs) which did not build with gcc-7.2 even before the switch to 17.0. Gentoo devs and arch testers did a good job as usual.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge does want to tell me...what?

2017-12-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 6 December 2017 10:33:54 GMT Raffaele Belardi wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Tuesday, 5 December 2017 16:49:28 GMT Raffaele Belardi wrote: > >> Looks like your -fpic modification did not make it through. > > > > Do I have my syntax wrong, then? > > > > # cat

Re: [gentoo-user] Sandbox violations when installing a Python package

2017-12-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/06/2017 09:08 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > I hope somebody can help me. > > I've written a new ebuild for "dev-python/imapclient-1.1.0" (the > latest version in the tree is version 0.13)... > > Ebuilding this packages dies of a Sandbox Violation: > Post the full build log and

[gentoo-user] Sandbox violations when installing a Python package

2017-12-06 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, I hope somebody can help me. I've written a new ebuild for "dev-python/imapclient-1.1.0" (the latest version in the tree is version 0.13) I've just copied dev-python/imapclient-0.13.ebuild and remove a patch which is no longer needed. Ebuilding this packages dies of a Sandbox

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

2017-12-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/12/17 21:56, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 05 Dec 2017 10:09:56 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> $ grep tmpfs /etc/fstab >> tmpfs /var/tmp/portage tmpfs >> noatime,uid=portage,gid=portage,mode=0775 0 0 >> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs >> noatime,nosuid,nodev,noexec,mode=1777

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge --info

2017-12-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
Adam Carter wrote: > so why have it if you force it off? One thing is the ebuild and the other is the profile: It might be different in a different profile.

Re: [gentoo-user] grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 3 December 2017 15:12:21 GMT Mick wrote: > On 03-12-2017 ,10:57:33, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Saturday, 2 December 2017 12:30:57 GMT Mick wrote: > > > I'm getting this error after I changed my profile as per > > > '2017-11-30-new-17- > > > > > > profiles' news item: > > > >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: git wants a password to portage sync

2017-12-06 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 06/12/17 06:43, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 06/12/2017 00:35, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> On 2017-12-06 05:53, Bill Kenworthy wrote: >> >>> No, all machines are set up as keyless ssh - git has never needed it >>> there. In frustration I created keys and set portage up as a keyless >>> ssh account as

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge does want to tell me...what?

2017-12-06 Thread Raffaele Belardi
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday, 5 December 2017 16:49:28 GMT Raffaele Belardi wrote: > >> Looks like your -fpic modification did not make it through. > > Do I have my syntax wrong, then? > > # cat /etc/portage/package.env > www-client/palemoon nopic > peak ~ # cat /etc/portage/env/nopic

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge does want to tell me...what?

2017-12-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 5 December 2017 16:49:28 GMT Raffaele Belardi wrote: > Looks like your -fpic modification did not make it through. Do I have my syntax wrong, then? # cat /etc/portage/package.env www-client/palemoon nopic peak ~ # cat /etc/portage/env/nopic CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fPIC" I've tried

Re: [gentoo-user] switch to profile 17.0 complete, completely painless

2017-12-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 01:18:02 -0600, Dale wrote: > I'm having trouble with these: > > net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.11-r200 > dev-qt/qtwebengine-5.9.3 > net-libs/webkit-gtk > > Those three, I've had to adjust the USE flags and it may or may not be > profile switch related.  If I had to guess, it just