Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread R0b0t1
Against my better judgement, On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > Up to a point, the same can be said about systemd; although many of its > programs can be and are used by end users, most of it is for distro > builders, programmers and administrators.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-12-10 21:31, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> You just don't notice udisks, it's quietly running in the background >> doing its thing without taking either much disk space, memory, nor CPU >> usage. > > I know

[gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-10 21:31, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > You just don't notice udisks, it's quietly running in the background > doing its thing without taking either much disk space, memory, nor CPU > usage. I know Dr. Valdés will not respond but maybe someone else will, as this is a factual question.

[gentoo-user] PerlEmbed?

2017-12-10 Thread tuxic
Hi, I am trying to compile the github clone of the Prusa Edition of Slic3r. It complains of not finding "PerlEmbed"... I asked eix but it does not find anything directly. Is this part of a package with a totally different name? Thanks a lot for any help in advancee! :) Cheers Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote: [...] > Yes, it seems appropriate for Windows refugees and linuxers suffering > from Apple-envy. When I said I didn't understand why it would be > useful, I meant that the documentation in the site is all but clear > about

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

2017-12-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Wols Lists wrote: > > So the OP needs to be aware that, if his file is smaller than the chunk > size, then it *will* be recoverable from a disk pulled from an array, be > it md-raid or zfs. > > The question is, then, how big is a chunk?

[gentoo-user] Why are these files restricted?

2017-12-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
$ for f in /etc/at/at.deny /etc/cron.hourly/0anacron /etc/default/useradd ; do ls -l $f ; qfile $f ; done -rw-r- 1 root at 166 Dec 10 16:57 /etc/at/at.deny sys-process/at (/etc/at/at.deny) -rwxr-x--- 1 root root 392 Nov 4 21:04 /etc/cron.hourly/0anacron sys-process/cronie

Re: [gentoo-user] net-wireless/blueman-2.1_alpha2 blocked by net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth - is it necessary?

2017-12-10 Thread Alexey Eschenko
Hi. Thank you for your attention. Try to remove the blocker in blueman, see if files collide or notHow can I remove the blocker in blueman? AFAIK it's not like adding package constraint to the package.unmask or something like that. I have no experience with writing ebuilds though.But I can check

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 09:02:24PM +, Wols Lists wrote > On 10/12/17 10:13, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > I've no idea how good systemd is. It's not been through the normal > > process of choice and selection that other successful packages have. > > It was forced on people. But being forced to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-12-09 12:00, Jorge Almeida wrote: > >> Are you sure you need udisks? And policykit? I'm guessing you have >> some default USE variables which if removed would contribute to a >> cleaner system. I just checked

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/12/17 10:13, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I've no idea how good systemd is. It's not been through the normal > process of choice and selection that other successful packages have. It > was forced on people. But being forced to have a binary system log, > being forced (so I have heard) to have

[gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-09 12:00, Jorge Almeida wrote: > Are you sure you need udisks? And policykit? I'm guessing you have > some default USE variables which if removed would contribute to a > cleaner system. I just checked the documentation about udisks in the > freedesktop site. I didn't manage to

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

2017-12-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/12/17 15:07, Rich Freeman wrote: >> > Is that how ZFS works? >> > > I doubt it, hence why I wrote "most parity RAID systems seem to > operate just as you describe." So the OP needs to be aware that, if his file is smaller than the chunk size, then it *will* be recoverable from a disk

Re: [gentoo-user] preparing for profile switch -- major problem

2017-12-10 Thread John Covici
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 07:36:19 -0500, Kent Fredric wrote: > > [1 ] > On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 02:17:09 -0500 > John Covici wrote: > > > OK, thanks, I think I will try that. > > The problem you're facing is that you masked dev-lang/perl, but not any > virtual/perl-* or

Re: [gentoo-user] preparing for profile switch -- major problem

2017-12-10 Thread John Covici
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 08:13:09 -0500, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 10/12/2017 14:54, John Covici wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 07:36:19 -0500, > > Kent Fredric wrote: > >> > >> [1 ] > >> On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 02:17:09 -0500 > >> John Covici wrote: > >> > >>> OK, thanks, I

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -e @world failed

2017-12-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 01:08:12 +0100 tu...@posteo.de wrote: > HHi, > > I did it, > > I started emerge -e @world --keep-going. > > And it failed while installing linux-gazette: > >>> Emerging (370 of 2114) app-doc/linux-gazette-117::gentoo > >>> Installing (360 of 2114)

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

2017-12-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 4:45 AM, Wols Lists wrote: > On 09/12/17 23:36, Rich Freeman wrote: >> you instead compute 5 sets of parity so that now you have 9 sets of >> data that can tolerate the loss of any 5, then throw away the sets >> containing the original 4 sets of

Re: [gentoo-user] preparing for profile switch -- major problem

2017-12-10 Thread Kent Fredric
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 07:54:59 -0500 John Covici wrote: > I am using ~amd64 and have done so for > years, so I don't think I need to maks off anything. Sorry, I may have gotten my wires crossed. The impression I got was you were trying to stick with perl 5.24 The point

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Pentium 4, 32bit fails to update media-gfx/uniconvertor-2.0_pre379-r1

2017-12-10 Thread Mick
On Sunday, 10 December 2017 10:11:41 GMT Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 10/12/17 10:51, Mick wrote: > > Any idea were that "MagickWand" went hiding? > > [...] > > > > Should I file a bug, or am I missing some other package? > > This was fixed in 2.0_pre379-r2, so you should temporarily keyword

Re: [gentoo-user] preparing for profile switch -- major problem

2017-12-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/12/2017 14:54, John Covici wrote: > On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 07:36:19 -0500, > Kent Fredric wrote: >> >> [1 ] >> On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 02:17:09 -0500 >> John Covici wrote: >> >>> OK, thanks, I think I will try that. >> >> The problem you're facing is that you masked

Re: [gentoo-user] preparing for profile switch -- major problem

2017-12-10 Thread John Covici
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 07:36:19 -0500, Kent Fredric wrote: > > [1 ] > On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 02:17:09 -0500 > John Covici wrote: > > > OK, thanks, I think I will try that. > > The problem you're facing is that you masked dev-lang/perl, but not any > virtual/perl-* or

Re: [gentoo-user] preparing for profile switch -- major problem

2017-12-10 Thread Kent Fredric
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 02:17:09 -0500 John Covici wrote: > OK, thanks, I think I will try that. The problem you're facing is that you masked dev-lang/perl, but not any virtual/perl-* or perl-core/-* to compensate. These 3 components work in concert like a single component,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread karl
Jorge Almedia:n ... > (Of course, the aforementioned fingers are exceedingly sticky. We all > have to live with udev, after all...) No, we don't have to, this is gentoo after all. You can still use a static dev if you wish even if some packages do insists on udev even though some of thoose

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/12/2017 13:55, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > On P, 2017-12-10 at 08:56 +, Jorge Almeida wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:12 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: >>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Peter Humphrey >> uk> wrote: On Saturday, 9 December 2017 12:00:12

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On P, 2017-12-10 at 08:56 +, Jorge Almeida wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:12 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Peter Humphrey > uk> wrote: > > > On Saturday, 9 December 2017 12:00:12 GMT Jorge Almeida wrote: > > > > On Sat, Dec

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Wols Lists wrote: > On 09/12/17 12:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> I'm all in favour of Lennart-bashing, but let's keep the bashing to what >> he's responsible for. > > > > As far as I can tell, the most egregious thing he's responsible for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Wols On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 09:55:45 +, Wols Lists wrote: > On 09/12/17 12:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I'm all in favour of Lennart-bashing, but let's keep the bashing to what > > he's responsible for. > > As far as I can tell, the most egregious thing he's responsible for is >

[gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/12/17 11:55, Wols Lists wrote: On 09/12/17 12:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm all in favour of Lennart-bashing, but let's keep the bashing to what he's responsible for. As far as I can tell, the most egregious thing he's responsible for is for wanting a well-designed system that works!

[gentoo-user] Re: Pentium 4, 32bit fails to update media-gfx/uniconvertor-2.0_pre379-r1

2017-12-10 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/12/17 10:51, Mick wrote: Any idea were that "MagickWand" went hiding? [...] Should I file a bug, or am I missing some other package? This was fixed in 2.0_pre379-r2, so you should temporarily keyword that version until it goes stable.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/12/17 12:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I'm all in favour of Lennart-bashing, but let's keep the bashing to what > he's responsible for. As far as I can tell, the most egregious thing he's responsible for is for wanting a well-designed system that works! Face it, linux is a hodge-podge of

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

2017-12-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/12/17 23:36, Rich Freeman wrote: > you instead compute 5 sets of parity so that now you have 9 sets of > data that can tolerate the loss of any 5, then throw away the sets > containing the original 4 sets of data and store the remaining 5 sets > of parity data across the 5 drives. You can

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:12 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Saturday, 9 December 2017 12:00:12 GMT Jorge Almeida wrote: >>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Mick wrote: >>> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Mick
On Sunday, 10 December 2017 06:12:07 GMT R0b0t1 wrote: > On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Saturday, 9 December 2017 12:00:12 GMT Jorge Almeida wrote: > >> Are you sure you need udisks? And policykit? > > > > I'm pretty sure Mick runs KDE,

[gentoo-user] Pentium 4, 32bit fails to update media-gfx/uniconvertor-2.0_pre379-r1

2017-12-10 Thread Mick
Any idea were that "MagickWand" went hiding? i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -march=prescott -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fPIC - DMAJOR_VERSION=1 -DMINOR_VERSION=0 -I/usr/include/python2.7 -c src/uc2/ formats/sk1/sk1objs/curvemisc.c -o /var/tmp