Re: [gentoo-user] Re: To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 02:08:39AM +0100, Ralph Seichter wrote > The ndp dump on 'argon' shows expired entries, entries that are still > valid for the listed time, and permanent entries. As you can see, I can > use 'ferrum.local' to identify a particular machine and login. There is > also

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Ralph Seichter
* Walter Dnes: > Look Ma, we have a form of IPV6 NAT (Ducks back into foxhole before > incoming artillery barrage from IPV6 purists). Hehe. ;-) That's both provocative and wrong. An IPv6 router can, at a glance, decide if a packet needs to be handled locally or pushed out. No need for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Ralph Seichter
* Walter Dnes: > I prefer man pages to rambling Youtube videos. As you wish: man ndp ;-) > given that SLAAC and DHCPV6 assign random addresses how do I > accomplish the equivalant of "scp i660:." The world according to 'argon', a MacBook Pro I am using right now: argon $ ndp -a Neighbor

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 12:01:10AM +0100, Ralph Seichter wrote > I think that, as long as the clients use link-local routing to connect > to the router, and the router correctly passes IPv6 traffic in both > directions, it should work without a global-scope address on the > router's LAN-facing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 06:46:57PM +0100, Ralph Seichter wrote > * Walter Dnes: > > > How would this be accomplished under IPV6? > > You may find https://youtu.be/A3LFt7CHpgs helpful. It is a video about > Neighbor Discovery Protocol (NDP), provided by RIPE NCC. I prefer man pages to rambling

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange and potentially unsafe openssh feature

2019-11-28 Thread Mick
On Thursday, 28 November 2019 22:15:52 GMT Ian Zimmerman wrote: > For my ssh keys that require passphrases, I use ssh-agent to cache the > decrypted key so I don't have to type the passphrase every time. Until > yesterday there was only one such key; last night I added a new one > [1]. And,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Ralph Seichter
* Ian Zimmerman: > The first reason [...] was that my router does _not_ assign fe80::1 to > itself, but rather some other arbitrary address in the fe80 prefix I found an article[1] that I first read years ago. "One method to make things easier is to manually assign the link-local address to the

[gentoo-user] Strange and potentially unsafe openssh feature

2019-11-28 Thread Ian Zimmerman
For my ssh keys that require passphrases, I use ssh-agent to cache the decrypted key so I don't have to type the passphrase every time. Until yesterday there was only one such key; last night I added a new one [1]. And, being the lazy thinker I am, I used the same passphrase as for the old one.

[gentoo-user] Re: To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-11-28 18:41, Ralph Seichter wrote: > > What am I missing? > > I can't really tell, based on what you posted. Is there an IPv6 Router > Advertisment service running, either on your router or another machine > in your local network? Thanks for answering; I got a bit further meanwhile.

[gentoo-user] Re: (SALT) Saltstack

2019-11-28 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-11-28 13:20, james wrote: > My specific (eventual) goal is to communicate/manage a wide variety of > gentoo systems, from servers & workstations to a myriad of embedded > and 5G minimal gentoo systems; particularly those on embedded > processors that have modest resources. I have no

Re: [gentoo-user] To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 27/11/19 18:55, Ralph Seichter wrote: > * Daniel Frey: > >> > I have exactly one choice for an ISP and I need a static IP. The ISP >> > disables ipv6 for some reason when you have a static IP. > Like I said, the availability of "decent" ISPs varies by location, and > there are of course

Re: [gentoo-user] To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 27/11/19 09:28, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday, 27 November 2019 01:51:44 GMT Dale wrote: >> > Rich Freeman wrote: >>> > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 8:10 PM Dale wrote: > >> I went to Newegg. Hey, I buy stuff there sometimes. Anyway, I've > >> looked at several routers and none of them

Re: [gentoo-user] To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 26/11/19 23:56, Ralph Seichter wrote: > * Adam Carter: > >> when i enable v6, all my internal hosts become directly routable from >> the Internet via the /56 my ISP assigns me. > > Even pretty anemic hardware can handle the demands of an IPv6 firewall, > for example using iptables/nftables.

[gentoo-user] (SALT) Saltstack

2019-11-28 Thread james
Curiously, Does anyone have any experience, tips or comments on the use of saltstack Gentoo specific location:: https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/installation/gentoo.html#post-installation-tasks My specific (eventual) goal is to communicate/manage a wide variety of gentoo systems,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2019-11-28, Dale wrote: > >> One more question Grant, if you know.  Do you know about the range of >> the wireless on this router?  You ever tested to see how far say a cell >> phone or something will hold a signal and work?  I had to move my >> printer to the kitchen, a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Ralph Seichter
* Walter Dnes: > How would this be accomplished under IPV6? You may find https://youtu.be/A3LFt7CHpgs helpful. It is a video about Neighbor Discovery Protocol (NDP), provided by RIPE NCC. -Ralph

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Ralph Seichter
* Ian Zimmerman: > What am I missing? I can't really tell, based on what you posted. Is there an IPv6 Router Advertisment service running, either on your router or another machine in your local network? Here is some data from the Gentoo machine I am currently working on. It is hosted in a data

[gentoo-user] Re: To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2019-11-28, Dale wrote: > One more question Grant, if you know.  Do you know about the range of > the wireless on this router?  You ever tested to see how far say a cell > phone or something will hold a signal and work?  I had to move my > printer to the kitchen, a far bedroom was to far

Re: [gentoo-user] To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Mick
On Thursday, 28 November 2019 08:50:07 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 09:28:59AM +, Mick wrote > > > The world is moving towards high speed wireless connectivity anyway, > > so more and more devices will not need a physical switch port or > > ethernet cables to gain access

Re: [gentoo-user] To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 09:28:59AM +, Mick wrote > The world is moving towards high speed wireless connectivity anyway, > so more and more devices will not need a physical switch port or > ethernet cables to gain access to the network. "High speed wireless" is going to be a big

Re: [gentoo-user] To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Andrea Conti
TIM has also been offering "experimental" native IPv6 to all PPPoE-connected customers for years [1]. It works, but they (intentionally?) made it less-than-useful by choosing to give out a dynamic /64. andrea [1]

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 03:07:43AM +0100, Ralph Seichter wrote > Personally, I don't think static IPv6 addresses are very useful, > because machines in a local IPv6 network can easily locate each other > using link-local addressing, without the need to configure this in > any way. In the example

Re: [gentoo-user] To all IPv6-slackers among the Gentoo community

2019-11-28 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 07:55:51PM +0100, Ralph Seichter wrote > Gentoo users are often technically skilled and therefore in a position > to make good use of IPv6. I think it would be beneficial to let ISPs > and router manufacturers know that IPv6 is not some exotic luxury. Gentoo users are