Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild acting strangely

2013-05-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 12/05/13 14:29, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 12 May 2013 02:50:44 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am using gentoo unstable and after this last update when I tried to do emerge @preserved-rebuild I get the following: I didn't

Re: [gentoo-user] gettext missing symlink message

2013-05-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 13/05/13 04:57, Walter Dnes wrote: I ran into this today while installing Gentoo on my new machine. making executable: usr/lib64/preloadable_libintl.so .[33;01m * .[39;49;00mQA Notice: Missing soname symlink(s): .[33;01m * .[39;49;00m .[33;01m * .[39;49;00m usr/lib64/libgnuintl.so.8 -

Re: [gentoo-user] gettext missing symlink message

2013-05-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 13/05/13 09:19, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 13/05/13 04:57, Walter Dnes wrote: I ran into this today while installing Gentoo on my new machine. making executable: usr/lib64/preloadable_libintl.so .[33;01m * .[39;49;00mQA Notice: Missing soname symlink(s): .[33;01m * .[39;49;00m .[33;01m

Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Question (alsaconf R.I.P.)

2013-05-18 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 17/05/13 21:30, Silvio Siefke wrote: alsa.conf (generated by alsaconf) Gentoo's alsa-guide.xml is outdated and is incorrectly suggesting the use of alsaconf When in reality alsaconf doesn't work at all with sys-apps/kmod because it doesn't generate 'modules.pcimap' and 'modules.usbmap'

Re: [gentoo-user] Acer Aspire One D255

2013-06-06 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 06/06/13 14:52, Silvio Siefke wrote: Hello, i have a new netbook buy and want install Gentoo on it. So the Installation run without problems, but i understand not why the network want not start. I make the installation with Sabayon Linux and from there i compile the Kernel with make

Re: [gentoo-user] Without udev, who/what names ethernet devices?

2013-06-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/06/13 18:05, Chris Stankevitz wrote: On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding this string eth0: 1. What does this string represent? Is it a file on a filesystem? (no!) Is it okay for me to call it an ethernet *device* It's just a name.

Re: [gentoo-user] Without udev, who/what names ethernet devices?

2013-06-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/06/13 21:09, Samuli Suominen wrote: [ .. ] One more link related, http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/src/udev?id=97595710b77aa162ca5e20da57d0a1ed7355eaad From there you can find the code that does the renaming in udev.

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2 compile error. Clock_gettime

2013-06-25 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 26/06/13 07:58, Dale wrote: I can't seem to get lvm2 to compile. I get this error: FILE=`echo lvchange.d | sed 's/\\//\\//g;s/\\.d//g'`; \ DEPS=`echo ../make.tmpl ../VERSION ../Makefile ../include/.symlinks_created | sed -e 's/\\//\\//g'`; \ x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -MM -I.

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2 compile error. Clock_gettime

2013-06-26 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 26/06/13 09:31, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: On 26/06/13 07:58, Dale wrote: I can't seem to get lvm2 to compile. I get this error: FILE=`echo lvchange.d | sed 's/\\//\\//g;s/\\.d//g'`; \ DEPS=`echo ../make.tmpl ../VERSION ../Makefile ../include/.symlinks_created | sed -e 's

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus problems - am I the only one who has these?

2013-07-11 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 11/07/13 12:32, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 07/11/2013 10:31:04 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:36:29 +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1:

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 22/07/13 10:03, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, How did you resolve this conflict? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut As a maintainer of sys-auth/consolekit, and xfce-base/xfce4-meta I can assure you sys-auth/consolekit is not about to be removed and the support for systemd-logind will be

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 22/07/13 18:02, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, and purge CK from your system; I did that almost a year ago. It's how you look at it. I call it mature but

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally intended. not possible, logind since systemd = 205 requires systemd and won't work on openrc, upstart, and such

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/07/13 09:11, András Csányi wrote: On 22 July 2013 21:57, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote: Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/07/13 09:54, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 23/07/13 08:43, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally intended. not possible

Re: [gentoo-user] [Preliminary report] Gnome-3.8 update works with openrc :)

2013-07-30 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 30/07/13 04:13, Mark David Dumlao wrote: walt, are you using pam_systemd? I have a hunch that systemd-logind should still work. nope, logind no longer works with anything else than systemd since 205 we have given up on logind+openrc, that's why gnome also now pulls in systemd at portage

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 01/08/13 19:28, Tanstaafl wrote: Hi all, Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs systemd thread. I have an older server that I have been putting off this update, debating on whether to update to the regular udev, or to eudev. I've googled until my fingers are

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/08/13 00:49, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: On 01/08/13 19:28, Tanstaafl wrote: Hi all, Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs systemd thread. I have an older server that I have been putting off this update, debating on whether to update to the regular

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/08/13 02:27, William Kenworthy wrote: On 02/08/13 00:28, Tanstaafl wrote: Hi all, Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs systemd thread. I have an older server that I have been putting off this update, debating on whether to update to the regular udev, or to

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/08/13 03:19, William Kenworthy wrote: On 02/08/13 07:42, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/08/13 02:27, William Kenworthy wrote: On 02/08/13 00:28, Tanstaafl wrote: Hi all, Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs systemd thread. I have an older server that I have

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/08/13 04:01, Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 02:42:36AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote nope, you just believed all the FUD there has been out there. i've said it many times, and i'll say it again: the only real different is USE=rule-generator and that's it and sys-fs/eudev

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Huh? USE=firmware-loader is optional and enabled by default in sys-fs/udev Futhermore predictable network interface names work as designed, not a single valid bug filed about them. Stop spreading FUD. Looking forward to lastrite sys-fs

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/08/13 06:14, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Huh? USE=firmware-loader is optional and enabled by default in sys-fs/udev Futhermore predictable network interface names work as designed, not a single valid bug filed about them

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/08/13 08:28, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/08/13 06:14, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Huh? USE=firmware-loader is optional and enabled by default in sys-fs/udev Futhermore predictable network interface names work

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/08/13 09:06, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:17 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On 02/08/13 11:01, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Huh? USE=firmware-loader is optional and enabled by default in sys-fs/udev

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/08/13 05:56, Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 05:02:39AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote Looking forward to lastrite sys-fs/eudev just like sys-apps/module-init-tools already was removed as unnecessary later on. You want eudev removed, and Lennart Poettering wants udev on non

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/08/13 13:27, Marc Stürmer wrote: Why is was forked you ask? Because of the predictable Name stuff and some People disliked the attitude of the udev programmer which was either my way or the high way. aside choice is always Good to have so in the end IT was bound to happen sooner or later

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-06 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/08/13 03:38, walt wrote: I was so hot to prove to myself that I could do the Big Update on both systemd and openrc gentoo machines that I didn't spend much time actually *using* gnome-3.8 until yesterday. Have you ever lived or worked in a building during a big remodeling? With most of

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/08/13 05:25, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Tue, Aug 06 2013, Samuli Suominen wrote: that's only because gnome 3.8 hasn't been stabilized yet. as in, there are no plans in keeping gnome 2.x available after gnome 3.8 stabilization. Am I correct in believing that gnome-3.8 (whether

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 09/08/13 01:59, walt wrote: On 08/07/2013 06:17 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: And in particular, all the GNOME stack includes their necessary unit files. That's good to know. The only reason I haven't already made the switch to systemd is lvm2 -- I just couldn't puzzle out how to get

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-10 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/08/13 23:18, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:24:27 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: But there's not a lot of point as eudev isn't that different to udev now, AFAICT, and a recent update forced me to switch back to udev because eudev hadn't been updated (on ~amd64). Can you elaborate

Re: [gentoo-user] Swap is manually 'swapon-able' but not via fstab...?

2013-08-10 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 10/08/13 17:36, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, When I do a beagleboneblack:/rootswapon /dev/sda2 beagleboneblack:/rootfree total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:507476 50812 456664 0 13108

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-10 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 11/08/13 08:36, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 09:57:52AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote I expect it to happen around every new udev release that causes slight incompability; the default of the virtual/udev, sys-fs/udev, doesn't have to wait for the alternative providers

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.6 just sits there.

2013-08-11 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 11/08/13 20:12, Dale wrote: I notice this starts but never does anything. I end up doing a ctrl c to stop it. I tried with two different versions of portage so I don't think it is portage itself. But it is. It's either Portage, or Python it's using itself. But it's not about

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-11 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 11/08/13 21:13, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 11:52:26 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: but the issue here was eudev *not* being updated when the virtual was, and both cause and result were quite clear. Right, but I was talking about not updating *anything* related to any mission

Re: [gentoo-user] about LIBRARY_PATH

2013-08-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 12/08/13 05:49, 东方巽雷 wrote: It seems that this variable is hard-code by gcc.I cannot change it any more.When I use gcc -m32 to compile a 32bit program,gcc is looking for /usr/lib rather than /usr/lib32.But in my system,/usr/lib is a symlink to /usr/lib64.The real 32bit librarys is in

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 12/08/13 13:19, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-08-11 2:38 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 11/08/13 21:13, Neil Bothwick wrote: There was a blocker (small b) because virtual/udev needed sys-fs/udev and that gave a blocker that uninstalled eudev. I believe it's 'b' if user

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 12/08/13 14:37, hasufell wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2013 05:01 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Huh? USE=firmware-loader is optional and enabled by default in sys-fs/udev Futhermore predictable network

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 12/08/13 15:17, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-08-12 8:06 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: True, it won't be dropped for long as people are maintaining it. That's how maintainership works. But trying to lie to people it's somehow solving something currently is annoying as 'ell

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 12/08/13 15:19, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-08-12 8:06 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: True, it won't be dropped for long as people are maintaining it. That's how maintainership works. But trying

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 12/08/13 15:38, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/08/13 15:17, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-08-12 8:06 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: True, it won't be dropped for long as people are maintaining it. That's

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 12/08/13 16:39, hasufell wrote: On 08/12/2013 02:06 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 12/08/13 14:37, hasufell wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2013 05:01 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Huh? USE=firmware-loader

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Advice needed regarding udisks

2013-08-19 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 17/08/13 22:00, Grant wrote: This is actually a portage question. How can I install udisks-2 in a way that will fix this problem? I'm confused by how to handle the slotting behavior. I think the issue here is that we are not understanding what the problem is. It happens with an

Re: [gentoo-user] re: xfce4-sensors-plugin pulling in nvidia-settings

2013-08-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 22/08/13 22:03, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 08/22/2013 09:59 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: As I figured in the package's changelog, some work on it is being done by Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org. He is also on this list, so I guess he could get involved as soon as he reads the list

Re: [gentoo-user] re: xfce4-sensors-plugin pulling in nvidia-settings

2013-08-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 22/08/13 22:22, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: What course of action would you recommend taking with regard to my original post? I'm not sure if I understand your problem but... Looks like nvidia-drivers-319.32 was stabilized without stabilizing nvidia-settings-319.32 together with it. You can

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Advice needed regarding udisks

2013-08-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 20/08/13 09:21, Grant wrote: This is actually a portage question. How can I install udisks-2 in a way that will fix this problem? I'm confused by how to handle the slotting behavior. I think the issue here is that we are not understanding what the problem is. It happens with an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Advice needed regarding udisks

2013-08-24 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 24/08/13 08:39, Grant wrote: Just saying you should be using `udisksctl` command instead of the now obsolete `udisks` command udisksctl command = new udisks 2 udisks command = old udisks 1 OK, but first I need to figure out how to get gvfs to use udisks instead of gdu. by emerging

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 27/08/13 09:24, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2+mdraid5+LUKS+systemd (was Re: LVM2+mdraid+systemd)

2013-09-25 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/09/13 17:37, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sep 23, 2013 6:01 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Man... watching this discussion just makes me want to avoid systemd like the plague/all the more... Please don't top post. Please disable

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble downgrading systemd and virtual/udev

2013-09-25 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 26/09/13 04:30, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I want to downgrade systemd from 207-r2 to 204 (highest stable). I currently have virtual/udev-206-r2 installed, which prevents systemd-204. OK. So I need to downgrade virtual/udev to 200.

Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives

2013-10-06 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/10/13 00:01, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 07:01:09PM +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: I want to be able auto-mount removable drives. I'm running xfce: box0=; equery list xfce-base/xfce4-meta * Searching for xfce4-meta in xfce-base ... [IP-] [ ]

Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives

2013-10-08 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do have xfce4-mount-plugin installed. box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount

Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives

2013-10-08 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 08/10/13 21:55, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/08/2013 09:21 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-20 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 20/10/13 09:34, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 10/19/2013 06:35 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 19.10.2013 17:02, schrieb Daniel Campbell: On 10/17/2013 11:27 PM, Mark David Dumlao wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-20 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 20/10/13 12:24, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 10/20/2013 02:37 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 20/10/13 09:34, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 10/19/2013 06:35 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 19.10.2013 17:02, schrieb Daniel Campbell: On 10/17/2013 11:27 PM, Mark David Dumlao wrote: https

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-20 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 20/10/13 13:47, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 10/20/2013 04:55 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 20/10/13 12:24, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 10/20/2013 02:37 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 20/10/13 09:34, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 10/19/2013 06:35 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 19.10.2013 17:02

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-20 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 20/10/13 17:01, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-10-20 9:02 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 20/10/13 13:47, Daniel Campbell wrote: Like I mentioned in a prior e-mail, the change didn't affect me when it was pushed, and doesn't affect me now. I did recently have to reinstall

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-20 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 20/10/13 17:01, Tanstaafl wrote: It's true that sys-fs/eudev restored the *broken* rule_generator from old sys-fs/udev, you can get it by USE=rule-generator. But it's lot saner to keep using sys-fs/udev and just write custom rules to rename interfaces based on MACs to like lan*, internet*

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 21/10/13 05:34, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 05:03:51PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote That's a bridge we will cross when there is a bridge to be crossed, but from top of my head: We will maintain a minimal patchset that reverts the offending code. As in, that's nothing

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 21/10/13 08:31, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 10/20/2013 09:34 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 05:03:51PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote That's a bridge we will cross when there is a bridge to be crossed, but from top of my head: We will maintain a minimal patchset that reverts

Re: [gentoo-user] Do I require static nodes?

2013-11-30 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 27/11/13 12:22, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: 2013/11/27 Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com mailto:chrisstankev...@gmail.com Hello, Portage recently told me this: * You need to add kmod-static-nodes to the sysinit runlevel for * kernel modules to have required

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE slow / console-kit-daemon POLKIT_IS_AUTHORITY failed

2014-01-16 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 16/01/14 19:39, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:19:22 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Helmut is still using consolekit. Are you still using consolekit? Yes, it's the default for kdm so it is enabled on both computers. I don't think it will be the default for much

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE slow / console-kit-daemon POLKIT_IS_AUTHORITY failed

2014-01-20 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 19/01/14 23:31, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 23:45:00 +, Mick wrote: This thread confused me. I have this in my system and I have not changed the permissions from when it was installed: ls -la /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper -rws--x--- 1 root messagebus 322984

Re: [gentoo-user] ttyS0 - ownership as root:dialout

2014-01-20 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 20/01/14 18:45, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 01/20/14 18:30, Joseph wrote: After upgrade to systemd my /dev/ttyS0 shows up as: root:dialout ownership and permission 600 When I change as root manually to: chown uucp:dialout /dev/ttyS0 chmod 666 /dev/ttyS0 after restart it goes back to

Re: [gentoo-user] [poll] What is your session state?

2014-02-10 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 10/02/14 00:43, walt wrote: Recent threads about consolekit vs logind(systemd) have made me curious, so I've been studying... A few of us have had recent problems with things like plugging USB sticks, which once worked transparently but now require root privileges. I've discovered that

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-16 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 16/02/14 18:41, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 16/02/2014 17:46, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2014-02-15 3:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: For Slackware, I have no idea. For Debian, no the only options were[1]: 1. sysvinit (status quo) 2. systemd 3. upstart 4. openrc (experimental)

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-16 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 16/02/14 23:28, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 16/02/2014 20:11, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 16/02/14 18:41, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 16/02/2014 17:46, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2014-02-15 3:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: For Slackware, I have no idea. For Debian, no the only options

Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-27 Thread Samuli Suominen
gentoo news item: # eselect news read 10 2014-02-25-udev-upgrade Title Upgrade to =sys-fs/udev-210 AuthorSamuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org Posted2014-02-25 Revision 1 The options CONFIG_FHANDLE

Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-27 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 27/02/14 21:49, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 27/02/14 19:24, Dan Johansson wrote: On 26.02.2014 22:24, Poison BL. wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Hello all, This is for those of use who to choose to roll our kernels by hand... So, am I

Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-27 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 27/02/14 22:33, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 18:24:50 +0100, Dan Johansson wrote: But if you press 1 in the example above you will jump directly to the menu item. Clue -- (1) Damn you, why didn't you let us in on this secret year ago? because Linux 3.8'ish wasn't released

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-28 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 28/02/14 08:47, Stroller wrote: On Wed, 26 February 2014, at 8:29 pm, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: … * Netscape (under AOL) aimed at becoming a pseudo-OS on top of Windows. We know how that turned out. You appear to be underestimating it - whilst the AOL suite was hated by

Re: [gentoo-user] custom boost in /usr/local = problem with libkolabxml, libixion

2014-03-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 01/03/14 13:23, Kacper Kopczyński wrote: Hello list, I've installed newest boost into /usr/local - it's a custom installation and not via emerge/portage. Today, after upgrading system, I've found that I need to use emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world

Re: [gentoo-user] more bluetooth troubles with 5.14

2014-03-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 03/03/14 21:21, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 02 Mar 2014 13:05:10 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I don't even have any /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf. What do you have in your /etc/conf.d/bluetooth? This is mine: =

Re: [gentoo-user] python-updater: updating cracklib forever...

2014-03-06 Thread Samuli Suominen
http://bugs.gentoo.org/503648 for stabilization of 2.9.1 which has been migrated to the new python eclasses, should solve many of the python related cracklib problems

Re: [gentoo-user] CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND: is not set when it should be

2014-03-18 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 19/03/14 04:22, Joseph wrote: I'm getting a message from sys-fs/udisks ERROR: setup CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND: is not set when it should be. WARN: setup I checked my kernel config there is not such options: CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND It's only checked for older kernels than 3.10 by the

[gentoo-user] Stabilization of netifrc-0.2.2, extra testers wanted

2014-04-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
Extra testers requested for netifrc-0.2.2 stabilization, also, if you know a reason this shouldn't go stable, like regression from 0.1, speak up now. See, http://bugs.gentoo.org/507070 (I'm purposely special casing this package over others like this.) - Samuli

Re: [gentoo-user] Stabilization of netifrc-0.2.2, extra testers wanted

2014-04-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 08/04/14 04:27, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 04/07/2014 04:08 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: Extra testers requested for netifrc-0.2.2 stabilization, also, if you know a reason this shouldn't go stable, like regression from 0.1, speak up now. See, http://bugs.gentoo.org/507070 (I'm purposely

Re: [gentoo-user] cpufrequtils can't find expected /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq

2014-04-24 Thread Samuli Suominen
cpufreqd, cpufrequtils are both dead packages for years now, it's propably cpupower you want instead, the only package getting updated for constantly changing paths in /sys On 24/04/14 09:27, Walter Dnes wrote: I'm finishing up on installing Gentoo on a laptop. I tried testing

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is udev now having USE (-openrc%*)

2014-05-10 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 10/05/14 09:43, Mick wrote: On Friday 09 May 2014 23:25:06 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2014 21:56:45 +0100, Mick wrote: What is the meaning of this change? [ebuild U ] sys-fs/udev-212-r1 [208] USE=acl firmware-loader gudev introspection kmod -doc (-selinux) -static-libs

Re: [gentoo-user] udev or Gentoo issue?

2014-05-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 13/05/14 16:50, Grant wrote: I'm having a problem starting the USB network interfaces properly on one of my systems. I brought the problem to the udev list and they're indicating that it's a Gentoo problem: https://www.mail-archive.com/systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org/msg18840.html

Re: [gentoo-user] udev or Gentoo issue?

2014-05-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 13/05/14 16:58, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 13/05/14 16:50, Grant wrote: I'm having a problem starting the USB network interfaces properly on one of my systems. I brought the problem to the udev list and they're indicating that it's a Gentoo problem: https://www.mail-archive.com/systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] udev or Gentoo issue?

2014-05-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 14/05/14 03:18, Grant wrote: I'm having a problem starting the USB network interfaces properly on one of my systems. I brought the problem to the udev list and they're indicating that it's a Gentoo problem: https://www.mail-archive.com/systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org/msg18840.html

Re: [gentoo-user] udev or Gentoo issue?

2014-05-14 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 14/05/14 15:42, Grant wrote: I'm having a problem starting the USB network interfaces properly on one of my systems. I brought the problem to the udev list and they're indicating that it's a Gentoo problem: https://www.mail-archive.com/systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org/msg18840.html

Re: [gentoo-user] udev or Gentoo issue?

2014-05-14 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 14/05/14 15:42, Grant wrote: I'm having a problem starting the USB network interfaces properly on one of my systems. I brought the problem to the udev list and they're indicating that it's a Gentoo problem: https://www.mail-archive.com/systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org/msg18840.html

Re: [gentoo-user] The writing on the wall ... sys-apps/util-linux

2014-05-16 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 16/05/14 10:34, Mick wrote: I got this message after an update: * Messages for package sys-apps/util-linux-2.24.1-r2: * The mesg/wall/write tools have been disabled due to USE=-tty-helpers. I understand that wall has been moved from sys-apps/sysvinit to sys-apps/util- linux, but I

Re: [gentoo-user] udev or Gentoo issue?

2014-05-16 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 15/05/14 02:59, Grant wrote: I'm having a problem starting the USB network interfaces properly on one of my systems. I brought the problem to the udev list and they're indicating that it's a Gentoo problem: https://www.mail-archive.com/systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org/msg18840.html

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bluez 5 not connecting

2014-05-28 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 28/05/14 21:42, Mick wrote: Hmm ... am I alone in this quest? See here, http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505362

Re: [gentoo-user] re: sys-power/upower-pm-utils

2014-06-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 03/06/14 14:30, J. Roeleveld wrote: Sounds like Samuli is being a pr*ck by forcing systemd on everyone now. A proper solution would have been to have the upower ebuild select systemd as a dependency ONLY when the systemd useflag is set. And depend on upower-pm-utils when it is not set. --

Re: [gentoo-user] re: sys-power/upower-pm-utils

2014-06-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 03/06/14 14:48, J. Roeleveld wrote: Then the dependencies should have been fixed prior to making this stable. And that's exactly what happened.

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 03/06/14 18:10, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Maybe a news item explaining the switch of upower would help those who haven't blundered into this yet. Maybe. The thing is, this is going to keep happening, as more and more infrastructure migrates towards systemd. Perhaps a news item everytime

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote: No, sys-fs/udev is not masked, but an update is indicated in the emerge above. That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is from the overlay. Unfortunately, the xfce stuff is not, so even if the overlay currency was an issue, I'll still be showing some

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/06/14 15:15, Daniel Troeder wrote: Am 04.06.2014 13:22, schrieb Daniel Troeder: Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen: On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote: No, sys-fs/udev is not masked, but an update is indicated in the emerge above. That's a good catch, the MATE stuff

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/06/14 15:21, Tanstaafl wrote: On 6/3/2014 1:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 6/3/2014 11:10 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe. The thing is, this is going to keep

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/06/14 15:58, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: And yes, as devs get lazier (decide to rely on systemd rather than build it to work independently of the init system), this will in fact result in *users* (read: those lacking the

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/06/14 16:47, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:21:51 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: And yes, as devs get lazier (decide to rely on systemd rather than build it to work independently of the init system), Reusing existing, proven code is not laziness, it is efficiency. Yes, they

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote: On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote: Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen: On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote: No, sys-fs/udev is not masked, but an update is indicated in the emerge above. That's a good catch, the MATE stuff

Re: [gentoo-user] Power management

2014-06-04 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/06/14 21:44, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, The current debate over upower and upower-pm-utils has got me thinking (yes, I know): is it possible to install Gentoo on a desktop or a mini-server without any PM at all? Of course. It's USE=-upower to make.conf and couple of

Re: [gentoo-user] Power management

2014-06-04 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/06/14 22:27, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 04/06/14 21:44, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, The current debate over upower and upower-pm-utils has got me thinking (yes, I know): is it possible to install Gentoo on a desktop or a mini-server without any PM at all? Of course. It's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/06/14 01:14, »Q« wrote: On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:06:07 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: The good news is that the version of upower prior to this decision still works fine and likely will for ages to come. That code has been bundled into a new package upower-pm-utils.

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/06/14 02:15, Dutch Ingraham wrote: On 06/04/2014 03:17 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote: On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote: Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen: On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote: No, sys-fs/udev is not masked

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