Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub heartbreaker
On 4/24/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] In the screen shot provided note that it appears grub is expecting an intramfs and only lists those types of devices, rejecting both (hd0,0) and /dev/sda3. http://www.jtan.com/~reader/vu/disp.cgi I think you're in kernel-land when you get those errors, and your kernel is built to use an initrd which it doesn't find (because you don't give it on the command line). I could be mistaken but that's what I see there. Is there an initrd image in the root of the boot partition (next to the kernel)? Try specifying that on the command line. Alternatively, check that your kernel is configured correctly for the chipset that the vmware is emulating - it may just be missing the vmware hardware and falling back to the non-existent initrd for more drivers. You may need to compile another kernel to proceed, or build an initrd with the missing drivers. (unfortunately I don't do vmware so I don't know what it needs) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Grub hangs when a USB disk is attached
On 2/28/08, andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On gio, 2008-02-28 at 19:23 +0100, KH wrote: Hi, never tried that and might only be a temporary workaround. You could install grub in the mbr of both disk and then point them only to your internal disk. That way you should always be able to boot, shouldn't you? /dev/sdd does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. mmmh... what does it mean? When the usb disk is attached after boot the BIOS doesn't give it a HD number in the series 0x80,0x81, etc, where 0x80 = (hd0) in grub or /dev/sda. The OS handles all the controller events and connects the USB device up through udev. When it is attached at boot-time it does get one(!) because the BIOS sees it before the OS has hooked in. To accomplish this you probably need to boot from the CD while the USB is attached. To me it seems risky, but possible. I wonder what will happen when you disconnect the USB drive after booting is complete? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Grub hangs when a USB disk is attached
On 2/29/08, andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On ven, 2008-02-29 at 13:00 -0500, Don Jerman wrote: When the usb disk is attached after boot the BIOS doesn't give it a HD number in the series 0x80,0x81, etc, where 0x80 = (hd0) in grub or /dev/sda. The OS handles all the controller events and connects the USB device up through udev. When it is attached at boot-time it does get one(!) because the BIOS sees it before the OS has hooked in. To accomplish this you probably need to boot from the CD while the USB is attached. To me it seems risky, but possible. I wonder what will happen when you disconnect the USB drive after booting is complete? No way. Even if booting from a livecd (and the usb disk is seen as (hd0,0) grub unstall still complain about missing BIOS driver. I also tried from the grub shell: grub root (hd0,0) grub setup (hd0) but at this point the program exits whit a segmentation fault message. Well that's what I get for answering off-the-cuff :) Let us know if you get a solution, I need it too! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Grub hangs when a USB disk is attached
I've had problems with disk presentation order changing (fairly randomly) when USB disks are attached during boot. Apparently there's a race between the SCSI controller and the USB controller(s). If you attach the USB disk later the SCSI stuff has all been discovered so of course it gets allocated later in the list, but if it's attached while booting the USB disk might come first or in the middle somewhere. This might lead to grub looking for its files in the wrong place, which might explain the hang. If you want to test this theory, boot from a CD while the USB is installed and see where it winds up in /dev, then boot without it. Be very careful about assuming drive identities! That's how I lost my system disk last time -- /dev/sdb seemed to be partitioned funny and I figured it out just a little too late. On 2/28/08, andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had no problem booting since last time I partitoned my USB external disk. == Disk /dev/sdc: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdc1 1243319543041 83 Linux /dev/sdc22434486619543072+ 83 Linux /dev/sdc34867729919543072+ 83 Linux /dev/sdc47300972919518975 83 Linux === When I boot and the disk is plugged, right after BIOS screen I get a GRUB_ and the boot process hangs. I guessed it was a BIOS problem so I tried to edit boot order and also to disable USB boot (that I don't need). BTW when the disk is unplugged grub loads perfectly. Thanks in advance. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Grub hangs when a USB disk is attached
I've had problems with disk presentation order changing (fairly randomly) when USB disks are attached during boot. Apparently there's a race between the SCSI controller and the USB controller(s). If you attach the USB disk later the SCSI stuff has all been discovered so of course it gets allocated later in the list, but if it's attached while booting the USB disk might come first or in the middle somewhere. This might lead to grub looking for its files in the wrong place, which might explain the hang. If you want to test this theory, boot from a CD while the USB is installed and see where it winds up in /dev, then boot without it. Be very careful about assuming drive identities! That's how I lost my system disk last time -- /dev/sdb seemed to be partitioned funny and I figured it out just a little too late. On 2/28/08, andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had no problem booting since last time I partitoned my USB external disk. == Disk /dev/sdc: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdc1 1243319543041 83 Linux /dev/sdc22434486619543072+ 83 Linux /dev/sdc34867729919543072+ 83 Linux /dev/sdc47300972919518975 83 Linux === When I boot and the disk is plugged, right after BIOS screen I get a GRUB_ and the boot process hangs. I guessed it was a BIOS problem so I tried to edit boot order and also to disable USB boot (that I don't need). BTW when the disk is unplugged grub loads perfectly. Thanks in advance. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ext4 status - Alternative to ext2/3 for gentoo portage and more
I personally prefer JFS to XFS and have used it for years on my servers and laptop with no problem other than hardware errors (and if the hardware fails the fs will not help you). I had system board problems in the laptop and a bad RAID controller in the server this last year :(. Other than that I always recovered from outages with a journal-replay. Your plan looks rational except I wouldn't use ext3 for storing video - it's slow when deleting large files and large numbers of files - xfs or jfs would be better. For that matter you may care to split your video and mp3 storage because mp3's are small and videos are usually large. If your videos are generally uniform (like on mythtv, allocated in half-hour multiples) storing them all in a filesystem of their own will reduce fragmentation. If you're doing write-once it doesn't matter so much, but if you delete things a lot it's more important to performance. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: migrating to LVM
On 10/20/07, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Don Jerman, So / and /boot will be smallish physical partitions - I use the minimum size for /boot and around 10G for root, When did 10GB become small for a root partition? I have a 400MB root partition, 35% full, no /boot and everything else on LVM. -- Neil Bothwick Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with battery :) Since my smallest hard disk is a quarter terabyte :) 8G to 10G is plenty to keep portage and compile openoffice before you build out your logical volumes, and my goal is to simplify management, more than to manage efficiently. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: migrating to LVM
On 10/19/07, Thufir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:26:49 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: hda1: Windows hda2: Linux (/boot) hda3: Linux (/) hda4: PV for LVM (PV = Physical Volume) hdb1: PV for LVM The two PVs will be assigned to one Volume Group (VG), inside which you want to create LVs (Logical Volumes) for /usr, /var, /home/user, swap, ... Is this correct? Yes. Looking at http://gentoo-wiki.com/ HOWTO_Install_Gentoo_on_an_LVM2_root_partition, and the section of the Gentoo Handbook it points to, critical system files would be on / partition, the root partition? Usually, yes. If /boot and /root are not members of the LVM volume group it's much simpler to manage and recover from problems. It's possible to put everything on LV's (apparently grub even supports /boot on LV) but it means you have to have an initrd that can perform the LVM initialization from the ramdisk and swap all the critical partitions before starting the real init process. If that initialization goes wrong somehow it's not going to boot at all (no linux single rescue mode) so you're stuck going back to a non-LV boot method (CD, or a rescue partition or something). Once you get the juggling act right the risk is fairly small, but it does add more complexity to the boot process so there's more errors that can break it. So / and /boot will be smallish physical partitions - I use the minimum size for /boot and around 10G for root, and LVM manages anything that gets dynamically large or uncertain like /home/, /opt/, and application directories like /var/lib/mythtv/ or /var/spool/mail/. Anything that starts to eat up a large part of my root partition is a candidate for copying over to a LV later on. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub problem
On 10/4/07, Rafael Barrera Oro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.22-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/hdb3 try: kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-gengenkernel-x86-2.6.22-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/hdb3 why: /boot is where you mount (hd0,0) while gentoo is running, but while grub is running you're starting from the boot partition's filesystem root. Easy mistake, I do it all the time when I try to do something fancy with grub. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Webcam on Pavilion Dv1000
On 9/5/07, CESAR GAVIDIA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings brothers, I have a laptop Hp Pavilion dv1000, this brings incorporated a webcam and a microphone, which have been able to fail to utilize. Sam Revich had a driver for the webcam on my HP dv9000t, which allowed me to get images. Something in the control data is different from the standard model however, so I can't really do anything with it without crashing the device, and I haven't been a good debugging partner. I'd be happy to use the thing but I don't have time to figure it out right now. I don't know if my device is the same as yours -- Sam has a listing of the USB device numbers on his blog, so you can see if his driver would work. If you have problems using it, he may be willing to work with you if you have time to help him with the data he needs for debugging. Here's the blog: http://lsb.blogdns.net/ry5u870/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] MCE in kernel
On 9/3/07, Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you. I have solved the problem for now, but live in fear that there is something untoward going in on my hardware. Quite possible. It can also be caused by misconfiguring kernel drivers. I recently (accidently) selected the ATI agpart driver instead of the Intel driver. Most drivers correctly detect when their corresponding device isn't present, but this one gamely tried to manage the AGP bridge and fouled up memory whenever X started... So you may want to review your kernel config and make sure you have all the devices you're attempting to use. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11: How To Calibrate Monitor Color?
On 8/30/07, fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using xorg 7.2.0 with open source drivers on an ati card. How would I calibrate my monitor? i.e. what a photographer or graphics person would want to to, do ensure I'm seeing accurate colors on my screen? you could take the trouble to learn about color management, and look at LProf : http://lprof.sourceforge.net/ (which is available in portage) to generate and install color profiles for your devices. Or do what I do - adjust the monitor settings (forget about X) to make an image look like a printed copy of the image. That's my bottom line - if it prints like it looks I'm happy. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Grub md5crypt broken
On 8/20/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started having problems with my boot password not too long after I changed it and I stumbled upon something altogether weird. The following is a copy of what grub is giving me for an md5 hash: -- grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$vhwK6$dV.xpYBymjq7.cZVnFZYe0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$miwK6$BKU11//PyeKMxtgiCbEeZ0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$njwK6$3KqXwDtPqGm6cBGQgSl2.0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$YkwK6$QCQguFhrGofbJXYnA62J91 grub -- Now, keep in mind that the word I'm typing is 'test'. No capitalization, no spaces, no nonsense. And yet the hashes md5crypt returns are all different. Now, that's no good if you ask me. These are all password-recognizers, not md5 hash strings (ok, they are in part). The $1$ identifies a salt lead-in, the next part is the salt for your password (generated randomly) up to the next $, then the hash of your password + salt (to the end of the string). Given the secret salt, Grub (or anything else using this method) can combine it with the candidate password and check the hash. But since the salt is random you get a different hash every time. This behavior is desirable in case you have two or more password recognizers in the same config file (or in files accessable to the same untrusted reader). It prevents identical passwords from being detected (as you demonstrated) by reading the recognizer strings. So no, not broken, just not what you expected. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT :video cameras and gentoo
On 8/10/07, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to all, I'm in need of a portable video camera(or rig), such as the sony SR82, but one that is gentoo friendly for video transfer. Hopefully I can find a video camera that transfers directly to a gentoo sytem via usb 2.0? After my experience with a Sony Viao Laptop, I'm not really keen on anything else from sony (now that I think about it). Another nice feature would be the ability to use the laptop screen for viewing (while recording) instead of looking at that 2.7 in popout screen. A remote control (wireless or via the usb cable) from a gentoo linux system would be keen. Am I dreaming or has somebody seen a linux friendly video camera. My target is to record video at football and basketball practice where my kids play. Or maybe somebody has interfaces a PTZ (pan tilt zoom) to a linux system and record in ntsc(pal) then later on convert to h.264 or such? I considering mounting the PTZ camera on a pole, so I can sit in the shade or a camper and record video, gentoo studio style... (beginning to sound like a project). Maybe use a logitech joystick to map all of the camera functions and use a laptop for recording (under the shade) Zoneminder leaps to mind, but it's more geared toward being the recording/viewing center for a separate camera. PTZ cameras tend not to be camcorders too, but there are several ip-addressable ones (so one assumes you could wire up the camera to a wireless hub and take your laptop elsewhere). See www-misc/zoneminder or the website at www.zoneminder.com. Compatible cameras are listed in their wiki. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Switching from Genkernel to manual build
On 8/1/07, Abraham Marín Pérez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Cowsill escribió: Is there any specific process to or problems one might encounter as a result of switching from a Genkernel built kernel over to a manually built kernel? As far as I can think of it would be enough getting the config file generated by genkernel, editing it through make config or similar and go ahead. Only other thing I ran into (admittedly in 2004 or 2005 or so) is if genkernel is doing any initrd-magick for you you'll need to either understand it and do it yourself, or config your kernel so all that stuff is built-in. It was a little embarrassing when none of my JFS partitions got found on that first reboot. Keep a boot CD or DVD in case of real disaster, and configure your current boot kernel as an alternative choice in GRUB until you get the hand-rolled version stabilized. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Machine freezes during gcc compile
If it's brand-new, have you ever installed Linux on this particular processor/motherboard combination? I had a problem with freezeups with my TurionX2 laptop until I used -noapic on the kernel line. Nothing much to do with load, except that more work = more chance of encountering the problem. I also had heat-related issues until I got the thermal sensors coupled with the speed governor. But then the machine would just turn off abruptly. I was able to get it to run long enough to recompile by putting a pencil up under the corner where the vents are, for more clearance and airflow. More details about the system might help you get better answers. On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got myself a new laptop and wanted to install Gentoo on it. After getting a working base system installed, I tried to install Xorg-x11, but the machine froze while trying to compile gcc. Keep in mind, there were no error messages, logs or anything of that nature. Just a straight up lack of any sort of control over the system. Now, just a little while ago I decided I'd try a different approach. I thought perhaps the problem lies in how I compiled the kernel. I tried to emerge gcc in the livecd environment with my gentoo install chrooted and sure enough, same deal. Does anyone know what could cause this? Or perhaps, what I should look for to solve this problem? Thanks. -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·-
Re: [gentoo-user] Machine freezes during gcc compile
It appears there are still apic issues under x86_64 SMP, so look at noapic if you continue to have hangups (you may have this AND heat problems). Also look at the AMD_64 architecture forums at gentoo.org. I'm not familiar with the Acer peripherals but that forum helped me with my HP9000z. On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it's a new Acer, with a Amd64 Turion mobile mk-38. I had thought initially that the cpu was to blame for the freezups as indeed I have never installed on this particular processor. So far, so good with the freezing, though. I propped the machine up, and all seems to be going smoothly... Does anyone know of any special considerations I should take with the processor? Thanks. On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I've done some reading and indeed it probably is overheating. I'll probably prop it up on some jewel cases and blow a fan at it until I can get a working system. Then I'll investigate cpu frequency scaling. Thanks for your advice. On 7/30/07, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got myself a new laptop and wanted to install Gentoo on it. After getting a working base system installed, I tried to install Xorg-x11, but the machine froze while trying to compile gcc. Keep in mind, there were no error messages, logs or anything of that nature. Just a straight up lack of any sort of control over the system. Now, just a little while ago I decided I'd try a different approach. I thought perhaps the problem lies in how I compiled the kernel. I tried to emerge gcc in the livecd environment with my gentoo install chrooted and sure enough, same deal. Does anyone know what could cause this? Or perhaps, what I should look for to solve this problem? Probably your laptop overheated... It happened to me once. Make sure that all fans are not obstructed in any way, and think about setting up CPU frequency scaling according to the CPU temperature, was the only way to get my laptop to compile stuff like GCC and OpenOffice, to set it down to 2.0 GHz when it reaches 70 degrees, instead of its full 2.6GHz. -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·- -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·-
Re: [gentoo-user] about grub
On 7/5/07, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] As I wrote in my first answer to this thread (which somehow didn't make it to the list, yet), the problem is (IMHO) with /boot not beeing mounted at all. Yes, if you followed the Gentoo install instructions closely /boot is not mounted during normal operation, so if you install a new kernel it will write /boot/grub/grub.conf (or /boot/grub/menu.lst) to your root partition, not your boot partition. Grub is instructed to use (hd0,0) or whatever your particular boot partition is, so it's not going to see the /boot directory on your root partition - mount /boot and re-install the new kernel version and it'll probably boot fine. Then you can clean up the version of /boot that's on your root partition (verify that /boot is not mounted first!). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
