enssl), and the package manager doesn't know much of it,
just keeps certain files around. So manual revdep-rebuild runs and
removals of old libs is still required.
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* luis jure wrote:
> /usr/lib64/libz.so: invalid ELF header
> Could not find the zlib library which is needed to understand WOFF
Do you have an multilib installation (32 and 64 bit libraries) ?
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news) that he can now switch his system. Once he does the switch,
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is so fast, I can't read it anyway. I did have
> a package to fail and it spit out the error for me to read.
BTW: does -j / --jobs also cause a parallel make (-j parameter to gmake) ?
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* Dale wrote:
> You may want to check and make sure this is compiled into your kernel.
>
> CONFIG_SYSVIPC
Are they really still using that old cruft ? ;-o
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errors (eg. lost files - at least if /lost+found is okay) ?
I just had an unpleasantly long downtime with manual intervention
required.
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ary (glibc) and didn't even
> find anything about nptl not being available on i386, not to mention
> anything else about different features on different subarches.
I don't know much about their internals, but I can easily imagine
that nptl makes heavy use of newer registers which l
more call arguments into registers which the called functions dont
expect - stack corruptions will happen.
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behind usuable console. That should be gone w/ KMS (admitting,
I didn't really test it yet).
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how gentoo builds the crosscompilers, but with an
crosstool-ng generated toolchain it will do.
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Movie tip: "The Cube" ;-)
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these files in a VCS if you already
> have the files they are to replace under VCS?
Archiving the actual (production) and default settings in separate
trees, eg. to allow 3-way-merge.
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* Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 23:37 on Wednesday 10 November 2010, Enrico
> Weigelt did opine thusly:
>
> > * Remy Blank wrote:
> > > Put your /etc under SVN, or Mercurial, or whatever revision control
> > > system du jour. Bonus p
> Just make sure you compiled your kernel with IA32 binary support (should
> be default)
The _target_ kernel has to support the IA32 ABI. The host (building)
might be better off w/o it (better detection of build errors).
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If you want to crosscompile, you *most likely* want sysroot too.
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semi-automated vcs workflow.
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e port.
git-cvsimport just uses the cvs server command to check out
individual revisions. Directly working on *,v files would require
an completely separate implementation, just for the special case
of importing local repos.
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Hi folks,
I've got some RHEL instance on an z/VM (s390) and like to get
Gentoo running in chroot. Did anyone already do that ?
Or any HOWTO ?
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in charge of the technical designs. That's long gone - 6.x already
showed big signs of degregation, 7.x was ugly, beginning with 8.x
totally unusable ;-p
Take my advise: migrate to another distro.
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user profiles (instead of separate dirs under $TEMP) is the wrong
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BTW: if you wanna catch videos and other media you came along
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http://www.metux.de/download/oss-qm/normalized_repository.pdf
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certian
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Not the recommended way.
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but yet quite different concepts behind), which just happens
to work smoothly w/ oss-qm.
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hould *not* be updated.
Is there any easy way to do it ?
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en are not upstream-capable,
instead of _generic_ fixes.
Again: OSS-QM ;-p
> However it is always problematic to depend on another team and have to
> wait for bugfixes. You must be able to bugfix yourself. Is that
> addressed by the oss-qm?
Yes, that's exactly the primary
ading product
managers convinced some day ;-)
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manage with your current level of
> technical expertise.
Let him try - learning by doing :)
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g the actual code pages, and
the MMU only has to maintain one physical copy of them.
PIC tends to be a little bit larger and slower than non-PIC
(more indirect addressing), but on most today's machines
the impact on real workloads is questionable.
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trol which packages should be updated fully automatically, w/o
triggering updates of others that I want to approve explicitly.
Once I've ported a buch of more packages to sysroot'ed builds,
I'll migrate to Briegel[1]-built images.
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It's based on crosscompiling
from ground up. It's not really a distro, but more a generic build
system, as a basic building block for distro generation. But beware
that it's based on very different concepts than traditional distro
build systems.
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adopt the oss-qm project, the stack would only start at the
ebuild level (since everything beyond will be provided by
oss-qm and checked/tested eccessively) ;-)
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in sysroot, and here's yet some work to do (essentially, that's what
oss-qm is doing all the day ;-p).
Ah, and this approach can also supersede crossdev (at least most of it)
and provide a fine tool for managing tiny containers which don't need
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#x27;t clean up the buildtime-only deps. But if I
remove one of them (eg. cabextract), they don't get pulled in again
(that's indicating the depending ebuilds are written properly).
Is this a bug ?
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lf them are zero sized..
> which
> quite justifies my agony)
Make multiple copies on different media (eg. different servers).
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This also brings several other benefits, eg. easier backups, quick
migration to other machines, etc.
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* Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> On 07/12/10 11:00:00, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> > do you have the process accounting deamon running ?
>
> No, and I've never done so.
Thats why the logfile is missing ;-)
If you dont have that daemon running (and so nobody write to that
logfil
ssing ?
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hmm. perhaps you could move away /etc/mysql and /var/lib/mysql
to some place, re-emerge the mysql package and so try if the
fresh installation runs.
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offee ;-)
BTW: regularily emerging world could be a fine testbed.
Maybe I'll set up an chroot or container for that on some
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* Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 06:52:35 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
>
> > is there an option to revdep-rebuild to only do output if it has
> > something to rebuild ? This should be run via cron to notify me
> > via email.
>
> There is the --quiet o
* Dale wrote:
> Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> >Hi folks,
> >
> >
> >is there an emerge option for building just a single package w/o
> >its dependencies (if deps are required, it should fail) ?
> >
> >I'd like to set up an automatic update for cert
7;s free
to try it or simply ignore it.
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Hi folks,
is there an option to revdep-rebuild to only do output if it has
something to rebuild ? This should be run via cron to notify me
via email.
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* Willie Wong wrote:
> What the heck is the OSS-QM?
Already posted it to the list several weeks ago:
http://www.metux.de/download/oss-qm-project-2010050101.pdf
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solve problems at the source, provide generic downstream
branches (which get rebased onto upstream) instead of single
(often unncessarily distro-bound) patches.
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is there yet a way to get the portage tree directly via git ?
IMHO this should be more traffic efficient than rsync in the
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I'm currently collecting a set of rules which upstream developers
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Comments welcomed :)
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which naturally would be upstream's job) ;-o
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or compiling to new .po files
using msmerge:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#Updating
BUT: these files would become dynamic data, which is not handled
(eg. automatic removed on uninstall) by portage.
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dont like in procmail ?
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believe in that synthetic religion of men-made-global-warming ?
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wn. o_O
In our house, that's the job of my grandpa (former fire inspector).
Of course he gets reminded by his speaking watches (yes, plural!) ;-o
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Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>> no, but with static exes you have to recompile everything
>>> everytime a security bug is found.
>> That's the job of the distro buildsystem.
g but
useless hassle. I really wonder if there's some hidden lobby
which benefits from this crap or it's really just stupidity ;-O
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ries (no distinction at all),
everything's relocatable, entry points are executed in the
from leafs to root of the dependency tree.
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http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/plumb.html
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eg. containing some "ctl" file accepting additional commands, etc).
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the filesystem.
> And with minimal memory, I don't want to have a ram-disk gobbling up the
> memory I have.
Why not simply using tmpfs ?
Or an specific synthetic filesystem ? 9P makes this really easy,
and network agnostic.
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> On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>> don't waste your time - dbis is already there...
>> dbus lets me access my network interfaces via filesystem ?
>
> no, it is ported to different ar
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> phonon: because phonon is part of qt? And qt is more than
> just a toolkit?
What is it then ? An own OS ? ;-o
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Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Another service?
Yes, a service that will be started only on-demand.
> Great - but then shut up about dbus.
Who the frak are you to tell me shut up ?!
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> don't waste your time - dbis is already there...
dbus lets me access my network interfaces via filesystem ?
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Of course this could be minimized by proper prelinking techniques
(some kind of JIT for dynamic linking ;-), but that's another
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Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>> so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells
>>> a broweser or mail app that they are offline?
>> use the filesystem ?
>>
>&
arch/date integration driver into the semantic-desktop framework ?
Why does this have to happen in a MUA ? Why not in an separate
service ?
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thing I never understood about dbus is why does an IPC deamon
depend on X ?
And to phonon, why does an audio api depend not just on X, but also Qt ?
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sing small tailored ones and moving the redundant
complexity to their own services, we perhaps won't need it at
all, but would be fine with small static binaries (which can
startup much faster).
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Perhaps as a filesystem. 9P makes this *very* easy.
> Multimedia buttons. One of the most confounding things on modern hardware are
> multimedia buttons. Volume is easy - make it adjust the sound server.
man 1 plumb
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atever the user configured
> it
> to do with the notification.
man 1 plumb
> Just to bring this back to your original statement of Unix philosophy. IPC on
> modern desktops conforms exactly to the Unix philosophy.
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Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> On 3 Jan, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
>> Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a working and maintained compressed filesystem.
>>> I'd like to use it for backing up my root and my /usr filesystems,
>&g
hough. Did you change CHOST maybe?
python folks can't write configure.in files (-> AC_TRY_RUN() causes
headaches) ... that's also why it's not crosscompile'able ;-o
file a bug to python folks, it's not gentoo's fault.
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Is there an option to build without that crap ?
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