[gentoo-user] Re: Google Chrome going nuts with L10N ?

2024-01-09 Thread Martin Vaeth
Walter Dnes wrote: > I seem to remember that Google Chrome used to build with all L10N > locales disabled. But I just ran a pretend emerge and I got... > > www-client/google-chrome [...] L10N="af am ..." It seems that the use flags default to "on". > how can I turn it off?

[gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

2023-12-28 Thread Martin Vaeth
Martin Vaeth wrote: > > /etc/portage/patches can patch practically everything > in ebuilds *except metadata*. That's exactly what > bug 209653 is about. Typo: I meant /etc/portage/env/*/*

[gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

2023-12-28 Thread Martin Vaeth
stefan1 wrote: > On 2023-12-28 15:21, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> stefan1 wrote: >>> This got me wondering though, is there no way to fix this globally >>> via make.conf instead of adding patched ebuilds to my overlay? >> >> No. Until https://bug

[gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

2023-12-28 Thread Martin Vaeth
Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 at 16:21, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> >> stefan1 wrote: >> > This got me wondering though, is there no way to fix this globally >> > via make.conf instead of adding patched ebuilds to my overlay? >> >> No.

[gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

2023-12-28 Thread Martin Vaeth
stefan1 wrote: > This got me wondering though, is there no way to fix this globally > via make.conf instead of adding patched ebuilds to my overlay? No. Until https://bugs.gentoo.org/209653 is fixed (which did not happen since 16 years and presumably never will), there is no other way to fix

[gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

2023-12-16 Thread Martin Vaeth
stefan1@shitposting.expert wrote: > I have done the migration to python 3.12. > The problem is that portage is pulling in python 3.11. A python version jump in gentoo is always a horrible work: Many ebuilds have not been updated and pull in unnecessarily python 3.11. If you use any of these

[gentoo-user] Re: google-chrome-103.0.5060 - choose password for new keyring

2022-07-09 Thread Martin Vaeth
Wols Lists wrote: > So why am I glad my USE= includes "-gnome" :-) > > Although I don't use Chrome, so I wouldn't notice anyways :-) You are wrong: The dependency is unconditional, so USE=-gnome won't help. What helps is to put a version of virtual/secret-service in your local repository which

[gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove udev. What!?

2022-06-20 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dale wrote: > > root@fireball / # equery d sys-apps/systemd-utils >  * These packages depend on sys-apps/systemd-utils: > sys-apps/systemd-tmpfiles-250 (sys-apps/systemd-utils[tmpfiles]) > sys-fs/udev-250 (sys-apps/systemd-utils[udev,...]) > virtual/libudev-232-r7 (!systemd ?

[gentoo-user] Re: How to make a boot menu?

2022-04-17 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 3:00 PM Martin Vaeth wrote: >> >> Yes, without a manually written grub.cfg you get none of these features - >> the default grub.cfg is just horrible. >> Well, the most powerful feature is probably still available:

[gentoo-user] Re: How to make a boot menu?

2022-04-17 Thread Martin Vaeth
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 17:48:04 BST Martin Vaeth wrote: >> Michael wrote: >> > From: Michael >> > >> > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 16:52:34 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: >> >> > Why not try rEFInd? It handles UEFI booting simply,

[gentoo-user] Re: systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-17 Thread Martin Vaeth
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 16:42:35 -00 Martin Vaeth wrote: >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >> > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 14:54:50 -00 Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> Can't you just fix your USE flags with systemd-utils? Why revert? >> > >

[gentoo-user] Re: How to make a boot menu?

2022-04-17 Thread Martin Vaeth
Michael wrote: > From: Michael > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 16:52:34 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: >> > Why not try rEFInd? It handles UEFI booting simply, without the >> > no-longer-needed bloat of GRUB. >> >> Hm. If I'm reading the wiki right, it can't handle choice of run levels with >> a selected

[gentoo-user] Re: systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-17 Thread Martin Vaeth
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 14:54:50 -00 Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> Can't you just fix your USE flags with systemd-utils? Why revert? > > No, because the flag I'd need is 'boot', and that triggers switching from > elogind to systemd. No, USE=boot for systemd-util does not

[gentoo-user] Re: Java wants cups?

2022-04-03 Thread Martin Vaeth
Matthias Hanft wrote: > > Meanwhile I have found out that the culprit is "virtual/jdk". No, the “culprit” is that you do not use the binary package openjdk and you did apparently in the case of icedtea. Icedtea and openjdk both have cups as a USE-flag, but this influences only the runtime

[gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-30 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick wrote: > > In a normal situation, with only one init system installed, there is no > need to do anything, because the virtual takes care of making sure it is > not deleted. It is not only about non-deletion. It is also about updating. Suppose that you have installed openrc and

[gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-29 Thread Martin Vaeth
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2021-07-29, Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> The handbook contains the instruction how to do this: Put the packages >> you need into the @world file. > [...] > > Is this documented somewhere in the handbook? I always supposed that it is document

[gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-29 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > > First, it doesn't sound like qmail actually requires daemontools, but > simply happens to include a daemontools service config. My understanding is that qmali contains a "daemon" which does not daemonize itself. To my knowledge, you can start such a thing only with

[gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-29 Thread Martin Vaeth
Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >> > Less clever people like me follow the handbook, and assume that >> > packages in @system are protected. > >> And they are right to do so. And openrc is not in @system (at least not >> in the profile which you have chosen), and certainly the handbook does >> not claim

[gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-29 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > The more I heard on this the more I tend to think that maybe it > should either not be in that virtual or that it should itself depend > on openrc/etc, or that qmail shouldn't depend on it. I strongly disagree. You have the same problem if you have any other init system

[gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-25 Thread Martin Vaeth
Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 16:18:25 -, Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> Portage *cannot* know unless you tell it. The way to tell portage that >> a package is crucial for *you* is to put it into the world file (or >> into some set which is in your wor

[gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-25 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick wrote: > > It seems that Rich's suggestion has the most merit, add a USE flag to > daemontools to indicate that it is intended to be your service manager, > and have the virtual require that flag. If you want to solve it by a USE-flag, add this flag to virtual/service-manager. One

[gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-25 Thread Martin Vaeth
Alan Mackenzie wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 13:26:17 +0100, Wols Lists wrote: > >> Well, it's not installed on my new system. I doubt it's installed on any >> new-ish gentoo-gnome systems. So openrc itself can't be critical. > > Must you be so objectionably pedantic? It is surely clear that

[gentoo-user] Re: Going through these one by one.

2021-02-15 Thread Martin Vaeth
Steven Lembark wrote: > (dev-python/idna-3.1:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) > (no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot) > > (dev-python/idna-2.10-r1:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) >

[gentoo-user] Re: Going through these one by one.

2021-02-14 Thread Martin Vaeth
Steven Lembark wrote: : sys-apps/sg3_utils:0 : : (sys-apps/sg3_utils-1.44:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) [...] : : (sys-apps/sg3_utils-1.42:0/0::gentoo, installed) [...] : =sys-apps/sg3_utils-1.44 or (permanently) unmerge sys-apps/rescan-scsi-bus and whatever pulls it in as a

[gentoo-user] Re: Going through these one by one.

2021-02-14 Thread Martin Vaeth
Steven Lembark wrote: > > # emerge --oneshot sys-apps/portage 2>&1 | tee a; > The output of this information is not very useful: Unsurprisingly, it only shows that update of only the portage dependencies collides with the dependencies of packages which are not updated. You should instead try

[gentoo-user] Re: Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/6/20 11:57 AM, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> Michael Orlitzky wrote: >>> >>> Why are you focusing on /tmp and /var/tmp? >> Because only world-writable directories are the ones which >> can be exploited unless the tmpfiles.c

[gentoo-user] Re: Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
antlists wrote: > On 06/12/2020 07:55, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> Dale wrote: >>> It sounds like a rather rare problem. Maybe even only during boot up. > >> It is a non-existent problem on openrc if you clean /tmp and /var/tmp >> on boot (which you should do if y

[gentoo-user] Re: Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > Why are you focusing on /tmp and /var/tmp? Because only world-writable directories are the ones which can be exploited unless the tmpfiles.conf author does something malevolent or extremely stupid. > To pick a relevant example relevant? > If that was a 'Z' entry,

[gentoo-user] Re: Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
Michael wrote: > > Given M.Orlitzky's comments and discussions with systemd devs he shared, > what's the optimal solution for OpenRC users, who want to avoid systemd? Simply stay with opentmpfiles. > Rely on ebuild creators and maintainer checks to guard against these inherent >

[gentoo-user] Re: Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-05 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dale wrote: > > It sounds like a rather rare problem. Maybe even only during boot up. It is a non-existent problem on openrc if you clean /tmp and /var/tmp on boot (which you should do if you use opentmp): The purpose of opentmpfiles is to fill these directories with certain data during boot,

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-05-05 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: >> ... >> > I STRONGLY beg to disagree! The "~amd64" notation is used to ACCEPT a >> > package even though it is (still) classified as UNSTABLE. >> >> This is package-manager terminology [...] > > No it's USER terminology. It's what users are confronted with when

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-05-03 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > I STRONGLY beg to disagree! The "~amd64" notation is used to ACCEPT a > package even though it is (still) classified as UNSTABLE. This is package-manager terminology which has much less states since a package manager needs no fine distinctions about the reasons of

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-04-30 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > Yes. To satisfy the requirements of package "sys-apps/fwupd" I long ago > added the line > >>=app-crypt/tpm2-tss-2.2.3-r1 ~amd64 Ah! That explains it. > But this only means that I accept an unstable package here, not that > these versions are regarded

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-04-24 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > >> ... >> I exported ARCH="x86_64" and did eix-update, but still: >> >> % F=':\n' eix --format '' -e tpm2-tss >> 2.2.3-r2: >> 2.3.3: > > Did you check with "eix --print ARCH"? Sure. > but rather what the command "arch" is returning. No. It's what it gets from the

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-04-22 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: >> >app-crypt/tpm2-tss 2.2.3-r21 1 >> >app-crypt/tpm2-tss 2.3.3 1 1 >> >> This is strange: Both versions are only ~amd64, and in your previous >> posting the output for {isstable} was indeed 0. > > No. It was only 0 in the output of the

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-04-21 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Martin, > > On Monday, 2020-04-20 18:21:00 -, you wrote: > >> ... >> >app-crypt/tpm2-tss 2.3.3 0 1 >> ... >> The second value depends on your ARCH; >> Since {isunstable} fails, I suppose that your ARCH is not amd64. > >$ eix --dump | grep

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-04-20 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > 1. Why do the package properties "isstable" and "!isunstable" differ >from each other in four out of five output lines? isstable means that a package is ARCH, isunstable means that it is ~ARCH (for your ARCH). For other arches there is isalienstable. Your

[gentoo-user] Re: Perl 5.30.1 Locale::Language missing

2020-01-04 Thread Martin Vaeth
Petric Frank wrote: > I looked inside the perl source archives. Language.pm is missing from > 5.30.1 whereas it is available in 5.28.2. This looks like a bug in the perl distribution to me: man perl5300delta claims "Locale::Codes has been upgraded from version 3.56 to 3.57." and man

[gentoo-user] Re: what does the "USE flags" section of the packages.gentoo.org/package page mean?

2019-12-16 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick wrote: > > eix reports USE flags for all versions in the tree Try eix -l

[gentoo-user] Re: how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick wrote: > --Sig_/199FZt974m.Ua./7+MHQOSx > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 18:51:11 -0400, John Covici wrote: > >> > With USE=3D"atk-bridge adwaita-icon-theme" this "breakage" will not >> > happen. =20 >

[gentoo-user] Re: how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
John Covici wrote: > [ebuild U #] x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.1:3::mv [3.22.30:3::gentoo] > prevent the install of the newer gtk+ which breaks some accessibility > features? With USE="atk-bridge adwaita-icon-theme" this "breakage" will not happen.

[gentoo-user] Re: Please help with `C compiler cannot create executables'

2018-07-30 Thread Martin Vaeth
Akater wrote: > >> configure:3753: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -march=native -O2 -pipe >> -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed conftest.c >&5 This should succeed. So the problem is probably this: >> cc1: fatal error: /usr/local/include/stdc-predef.h: Permission denied It seems that you have this file but that

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-14 Thread Martin Vaeth
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday, 6 July 2018 06:34:01 BST Davyd McColl wrote: > >> 1) `sync-depth` has been deprecated (should now use `clone-depth`) > > [...] And why is the recent news item referring to instructions > to use sync-depth? Things have changed with portage-2.3.42: sync-depth is

[gentoo-user] Re: Re[4]: Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-08 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > emerge --sync works just fine if > there are uncommitted changes in your repository, whether they are > indexed or otherwise. You are right. It seems to be somewhat "random" when git pull refuses to work and when not. I could not detect a common scheme. Maybe this has

[gentoo-user] Re: Re[4]: Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-08 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: >> I was speaking about gentoo's git repository, of course >> (the one which was attacked on github), not about a Frankensteined one >> with metadata history filling megabytes of disk space unnecessarily. >> Who has that much disk space to waste? > > Doesn't portage create

[gentoo-user] Re: Re[4]: Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 1:51 AM Martin Vaeth wrote: >> Davyd McColl wrote: >> >> > I ask because prior to the GitHub incident, I didn't have signature >> > verification enabled >> >> Currently, it is not practical to change this

[gentoo-user] Re: Re[4]: Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 1:34 AM Martin Vaeth wrote: >> >> Biggest issue is that git signature happens by the developer who >> last commited which means that in practice you need dozens/hundreds >> of keys. > > This is untrue. [..

[gentoo-user] Re: Re[4]: Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
Davyd McColl wrote: > @Rich: if I understand the process correctly, the same commits are > pushed to infra and GitHub by the CI bot? Yes, the repositories are always identical (up to a few seconds delay). > I ask because prior to the GitHub incident, I didn't have signature > verification

[gentoo-user] Re: Re[2]: Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > > git has the advantage that it can just read the current HEAD and from > that know exactly what commits are missing, so there is way less > effort spent figuring out what changed. I don't know the exact protocol, but I would assume that git is even more efficient: I would

[gentoo-user] Re: Re[4]: Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > > Biggest issue with git signature verification is that right now it > will still do a full pull/checkout before verifying Biggest issue is that git signature happens by the developer who last commited which means that in practice you need dozens/hundreds of keys. No

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
Davyd McColl wrote: > > 1) `sync-depth` has been deprecated (should now use `clone-depth`) The reason is that sync-depth was meant to be effective for every sync, i.e. that with sync-depth=1 the clone should stay shallow. However, it turned out that this caused frequent/occassional errors with

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo and OSS(4)

2018-05-15 Thread Martin Vaeth
Klaus Ethgen wrote: > - - What does that -oss in brackets mean? It means that it is masked in use.mask or package.use.mask In your case the file /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/package.use.mask explains the reason. > - - How can I force usage of oss In your case:

[gentoo-user] Re: Spectre-NG

2018-05-10 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 1:34 AM Martin Vaeth <mar...@mvath.de> wrote: > >> As a simple example, assume that you have read a password file >> into a string of your language and now access a single password. >> No matter,

[gentoo-user] Re: Spectre-NG

2018-05-09 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 2:18 PM Martin Vaeth <mar...@mvath.de> wrote: > >> Which would be the horribly slow case I mentioned above. > > I'm saying that high-level languages can be made safe. > > You're saying that ma

[gentoo-user] Re: Spectre-NG

2018-05-09 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 4:19 AM Martin Vaeth <mar...@mvath.de> wrote: > >> Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> > >> > Higher-level languages will probably become nearly immune to Spectre > just

[gentoo-user] Re: Spectre-NG

2018-05-08 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > > Higher-level languages will probably become nearly immune to Spectre just > as most are nearly immune to buffer overflows. Quite the opposite: Higher-level languages *always* do some checks for array-length etc, and it is the _checks_ which are

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge colors and light background

2018-04-20 Thread Martin Vaeth
James Cloos wrote: > For eix, I have this in a file in /etc/eixrc/: > > BG0=none > BG1=none > BG2=none > BG3=none If you only use colorscheme 3 you need only BG3=none > COLORSCHEME0=3 > COLORSCHEME1=3 The former (...0=3) should have no effect at all if your TERM is

[gentoo-user] frenchspacing (was: Firefox and addons no longer supported question)

2018-04-03 Thread Martin Vaeth
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 2 April 2018 21:50:30 BST Philip Webb wrote: >> 180402 Dale wrote: >> > After each period at the end of a sentence, I put in two spaces, not one. >> > Something I was taught years ago somewhere and still do. >> > I only put one after a

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-02 Thread Martin Vaeth
Daniel Frey wrote: > On 04/02/18 08:21, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> >> BTW, your mails are full of strange space characters > > I don't see any extra spaces in Dale's message After every "." there is a non-breakable space inserted. I guess this is an attempt of some editor to

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-02 Thread Martin Vaeth
Bill Kenworthy <bi...@iinet.net.au> wrote: > On 02/04/18 13:41, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> Bill Kenworthy <bi...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >>> I use the palemoon overlay. >> There is also the octopus overlay. >> Anyway, both can only react to upstream. >>

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-02 Thread Martin Vaeth
Walter Dnes wrote: > Mind you, the Pale Moon team may not > have the staffing level required to write a new compiler, maintain a > politically correct "community", integrate real-time-chat into the > browser, integrate "Pocket" into the browser, rewrite the GUI every so >

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-02 Thread Martin Vaeth
tu...@posteo.de <tu...@posteo.de> wrote: > On 04/02 05:41, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> It seems currently that mozilla, google, and apple are the only >> oranganizations with enough resources to maintain full browsers, >> and any forks of their browsers which d

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-01 Thread Martin Vaeth
Bill Kenworthy wrote: > I use the palemoon overlay. There is also the octopus overlay. Anyway, both can only react to upstream. > builds fine with gcc-6.4 Yes, but it has random crashes which do not occur with gcc-5, and as somebody familiar with the code posted somewhere,

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-01 Thread Martin Vaeth
Ian Zimmerman <i...@very.loosely.org> wrote: > On 2018-04-01 09:15, Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> noscript, ublock-origin, and https-everywhere (maybe for privacy also >> coupled with decentraleyes, duckduckgo{-privacy-esesntials}, >> canvasblocker, skip-redirect

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-01 Thread Martin Vaeth
Ian Zimmerman <i...@very.loosely.org> wrote: > On 2018-03-31 08:18, Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> As usual, there is the balance >> "convenience" (old plugins) <-> "security". >> In the beginning (say, until firefox-52 is no longer supp

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-03-31 Thread Martin Vaeth
tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > There two reasons for which I have switched to waterfox: Privacy and > memory. > > About:config and search for "telemetry" Telemetry can be switched off. > Or check how many URLS are configured under about:config. It is in "about:config", so they can

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-03-31 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dale wrote: > > I been holding off on upgrading Firefox. Basically, it breaks addons > that I just can't go without. Tab groups and some other tab utilities > are among them. Basically the situation is the following: >=firefox-57 support so-called WebExtensions which

[gentoo-user] Re: Would unmerging xorg-server certainly help it?

2018-03-25 Thread Martin Vaeth
Akater wrote: > I just tried > >> emerge --ask --verbose --update --oneshot x11-base/xorg-proto x11-proto/s= > crnsaverproto > > > (x11-proto/scrnsaverproto-1.2.2-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by > >x11-proto/scrnsaverproto It should be scrnsaverproto-1.2.2-r2

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc 7.3 + kernel 4.15 = spectre_v2 fixed

2018-01-31 Thread Martin Vaeth
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > For example, if you don't trust Firefox, don't install Firefox. But you > *do* trust Firefox. What you don't trust is the JS code Firefox is > executing. That's an artificial distinction, because it is actually firefox which is executing the code

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc 7.3 + kernel 4.15 = spectre_v2 fixed

2018-01-31 Thread Martin Vaeth
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Yeah, that's the kind of software that benefits from the Spectre > mitigation patches. Like browsers, virtualization or emulation software, > the kernel, etc. No. It's software like gnupg, encfs, openssl and all the library they use (glibc, glib, X

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc 7.3 + kernel 4.15 = spectre_v2 fixed

2018-01-31 Thread Martin Vaeth
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > Well, if you're running a local process that is trying to attack you, > you've been compromised already, imo. By your definition, you are compromised if you surf to the wrong webpage with enabled javascript. While this is arguably true, I would

[gentoo-user] Re: Profile 17.0, PIE, USE="pic", C(XX)FLAGS "-fpic", "-fPIC"?

2018-01-09 Thread Martin Vaeth
Walter Dnes wrote: > Question: does PIE imply pic/PIC? The code is somewhat different, but in principle yes. > I.e does a PIE build also require USE="pic" Assembler code which breaks pic will also break pie, so better do not use that code. > and CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS="-fpic

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge --info

2017-12-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
Adam Carter wrote: > so why have it if you force it off? One thing is the ebuild and the other is the profile: It might be different in a different profile.

[gentoo-user] Re: is multi-core really worth it?

2017-11-23 Thread Martin Vaeth
David Haller wrote: > > Mow is that meson_options.txt > maintained? Automatically or by hand? If the former: yay! No, the former would be bad since it would require an analogue of an "autoreconf" run which is what meson avoids. > If the latter, treat it as non-existant... I

[gentoo-user] Re: is multi-core really worth it?

2017-11-22 Thread Martin Vaeth
David Haller wrote: > autotools is _by far_the best both from a users and a packagers view. I do not agree. Its main advantage is that it is compatible with most existing unix systems (but I am already not so sure whether this also holds if you also want to compile for

[gentoo-user] Re: ....Gentoo update killed Gentoo update?

2017-10-04 Thread Martin Vaeth
Wolfram Schlich wrote: > So, you (also) are effectively the maintainer There was some dispute. It seems that now my requests are ignored: https://bugs.gentoo.org/628512

[gentoo-user] Re: ....Gentoo update killed Gentoo update?

2017-10-04 Thread Martin Vaeth
Wolfram Schlich wrote: > > Use this for a quick fix until it's sorted out upstream: It is not an upstream issue. You can use the ebuild from the mv overlay which does not patch the upstream build system.

[gentoo-user] Re: Choosing between system profiles: hardened and desktop for desktop installation.

2017-07-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
R0b0t1 wrote: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Hardened_Gentoo > > The hardened profile still sets PaX and a slew of toolchain options. Yes. But marking binaries for pax if you don't use a kernel with pax is pointless. And whether you use the hardened toolchain or a current gcc

[gentoo-user] Re: Choosing between system profiles: hardened and desktop for desktop installation.

2017-07-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
james wrote: > > Hmmm. OK, so I avoid systemd and nepomuk (actually all of KDE) but > polkit? I try and run a minimized DE environment, but on a workstation, > I'm constantly evaluating various codes, so how do I avoid polkit? USE=-policykit obviously helps a lot >

[gentoo-user] Re: Choosing between system profiles: hardened and desktop for desktop installation.

2017-07-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
Peter Humphrey <pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > On Friday 07 Jul 2017 07:53:01 Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> ... my original text was arguing against the claim that the primary >> purpose of hardened kernels was to protect against untrusted users >> sitting in front

[gentoo-user] Re: Choosing between system profiles: hardened and desktop for desktop installation.

2017-07-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
R0b0t1 <r03...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:33 AM, Martin Vaeth <mar...@mvath.de> wrote: >> Peter Humphrey <pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote: >>> On Tuesday 04 Jul 2017 10:14:23 Martin Vaeth wrote: >>>> >>>> With m

[gentoo-user] Re: Choosing between system profiles: hardened and desktop for desktop installation.

2017-07-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
Peter Humphrey <pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > On Tuesday 04 Jul 2017 10:14:23 Martin Vaeth wrote: >> >> With modern browsers and their complexity, you can expect that any >> website (or the one who has hacked it) can do anything which the >> user of that browse

[gentoo-user] Re: Choosing between system profiles: hardened and desktop for desktop installation.

2017-07-04 Thread Martin Vaeth
Peter Humphrey wrote: > hardening is intended > more for protection against local threats, like someone else > ssitting in your seat, than anything coming in over the wires. With modern browsers and their complexity, you can expect that any website (or the one who has

[gentoo-user] Re: Puzzled by zswap [Was: tmp on tmpfs]

2017-05-25 Thread Martin Vaeth
Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > 1. How does it know which swap device to use as backing store, if any? My understanding is that zswap is lower level: only in the moment when a page _would_ be stored, the zswap code is called. That's why activating zsawp has absolutely no effect if

[gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-25 Thread Martin Vaeth
Mick wrote: > Do either of these reduce the effect of (spinning) drive thrashing and > desktop latency increasing when swapping takes place? I never made any benchmarks. I just heard that some people are using the combination of both to avoid swap altogether (or only

[gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-24 Thread Martin Vaeth
Andrew Savchenko wrote: > For similar needs I found zswap the most suitable, it's so much > better than zram: This sounds like one is an alternative to the other. This is not the case. It can even make sense to use them together. For instance, the swap device necessarily

[gentoo-user] eix bug (was: Inconsistent behavior in my Gentoo OS instance)

2017-05-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
Miroslav Rovis wrote: > Received SIGSEGV - you probably found a bug in eix. If you are using eix-0.32.7* or eix-0.32.8.alpha* then this is perhaps this bug: https://github.com/vaeth/eix/issues/39

[gentoo-user] Re: mysql-workbench

2017-04-18 Thread Martin Vaeth
> Alan McKinnon | [ebuild N ] dev-cpp/cairomm-1.12.0-r1 USE="svg -X (-aqua) -doc" >[???] >| # required by dev-cpp/cairomm-1.12.0-r1::gentoo >| >=x11-libs/cairo- -X eix -vle cairomm ???RDEPEND: >=x11-libs/cairo-1.12.10[aqua=,svg=,X=,??? So your selected cairomm[-X] requires

[gentoo-user] Re: eix db no longer updates

2017-03-21 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dan Douglas wrote: > > However most of these are only metadata/md5-cache files By default, eix reads its information for the main portage tree from this directory. Check whether e.g. the portage versions displayed by eix match which the versions in that directory. If this is

[gentoo-user] Re: TeXlive-core failed to build

2017-03-13 Thread Martin Vaeth
You appear to have experimental CFLAGS. Try without these.

[gentoo-user] Re: Configuring Firefox for more privacy - an attempt (results)

2017-01-16 Thread Martin Vaeth
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Q: How can I direct the emerged NoScript to be > inserted into PaleMoon Profiles With correct USE-flags (BROWSER=palemoon) the ebuild installs noscript into the _system_ directory where palemoon looks for plugins. No user profiles are touched.

[gentoo-user] Re: Configuring Firefox for more privacy - an attempt (results)

2017-01-16 Thread Martin Vaeth
meino.cra...@gmx.de <meino.cra...@gmx.de> wrote: > Martin Vaeth <mar...@mvath.de> [17-01-16 18:22]: >> meino.cra...@gmx.de <meino.cra...@gmx.de> wrote: >> > I still cant use NoScript with PaleMoon. >> >> Check out the mv overlay: There is a slo

[gentoo-user] Re: Configuring Firefox for more privacy - an attempt (results)

2017-01-16 Thread Martin Vaeth
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > I still cant use NoScript with PaleMoon. Check out the mv overlay: There is a slot working with palemoon.

[gentoo-user] Re: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-23 Thread Martin Vaeth
lee wrote: > > So the names will not change when rebooting and are to be expected to > possibly change at any time. /at any time/when you open the computer and mess around with the hardware/ Your whining in many postings becomes meanwhile unbearable. Just face the facts:

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage spokes again...

2016-12-21 Thread Martin Vaeth
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > sys-apps/systemd required by (virtual/tmpfiles [...] Probably this is your problem: You have apparently stabilized the testing virtual/tmpfiles (or some other package which requires it). virtual/tmpfiles depends (unless you use systemd) on

[gentoo-user] Re: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread Martin Vaeth
Miroslav Rovis <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> wrote: > Martin Vaeth, I think he works with the ebuilds of Pale moon No, I don't. I had just reported a few bugs (and suggested some workarounds).

[gentoo-user] Re: UDEV rule problem

2016-11-15 Thread Martin Vaeth
Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > Since the hard drives within theses enclosures have different > capacities, there is a different ATTR{size} value in the > block-subsystem. > > How can I write to different udev rules to distinguish these two > external hard disks?

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge --sync

2016-10-24 Thread Martin Vaeth
Jorge Almeida wrote: > I want to do emerge --sync on computer A and then update computer B by > copying /usr/portage. Is this safe? Yes, although ... > does emerge --sync just updates the contents of /usr/portage portage also changes the content of /var/cache/edb, and in

[gentoo-user] Re: alpine

2016-10-15 Thread Martin Vaeth
Jorge Almeida wrote: > Is there a technical reason for forcing the use of PAM on gentoo? No. You can use alpine from the mv overlay which has a pam useflag.

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge @system

2016-08-30 Thread Martin Vaeth
Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Would it be sensible to use the 44 packages in that @system as a new > set @sysbase on the main system, or would I miss something important? Actually, this set is even _larger_ than the @system set which I got from combining both profiles

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