Re: [gentoo-user] frei0r-plugins opencv ffmpeg Error: circular dependencies

2024-04-29 Thread Michael
On Monday, 29 April 2024 06:07:04 BST Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > > > I'm installing Gentoo on that old Dell Inspiron still. I'm getting > > close. I'm now at this. > > > > > > * Error: circular dependencies: > > > > (media-plugins/frei0r-plugins-1.8.0:0/0::gentoo, ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] frei0r-plugins opencv ffmpeg Error: circular dependencies

2024-04-28 Thread Waldo Lemmer
Hi Dale, CFLAGS can't have an effect on dependencies. It is passed to make; emerge doesn't use it. Emerge does use CPU_FLAGS_*, but I don't know if those flags are used for any conditional dependencies. Regards, Waldo On Mon, Apr 29, 2024, 07:07 Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] frei0r-plugins opencv ffmpeg Error: circular dependencies

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I'm installing Gentoo on that old Dell Inspiron still.  I'm getting > close.  I'm now at this.  > > >  * Error: circular dependencies: > > (media-plugins/frei0r-plugins-1.8.0:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > merge) depends on >  (media-libs/opencv-4.9.0:0/4.9.0::gentoo,

[gentoo-user] frei0r-plugins opencv ffmpeg Error: circular dependencies

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Howdy, I'm installing Gentoo on that old Dell Inspiron still.  I'm getting close.  I'm now at this.   * Error: circular dependencies: (media-plugins/frei0r-plugins-1.8.0:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) depends on  (media-libs/opencv-4.9.0:0/4.9.0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Wol
On 28/04/2024 17:40, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. That empty space does not exist when using GPT disk label. When using a GPT

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: >> On Sunday, 28 April 2024 19:39:16 BST Dale wrote: >>> Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector > and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 28 April 2024 19:39:16 BST Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. That empty

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 28 April 2024 19:39:16 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector > >> and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. > >> That empty space does not exist

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector >> and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. >> That empty space does not exist when using GPT disk label. When using >> a GPT disk label,

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector > and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. > That empty space does not exist when using GPT disk label. When using > a GPT disk label, Grub requires that you need

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-27, Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:53:25 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I'm installing Gentoo on another old box. To be consistent I like >> to use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my >> drives, regardless of size. > > GPT is the partition table

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 28 April 2024 13:57:23 BST Dale wrote: > >> I just got to figure out how to make it so I can login as root via ssh >> again. I set PermitRootLogin to yes in ssh config but still refuses. I >> did it on my NAS box but can't recall what else I had to do. > Just checking

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 28 April 2024 13:57:23 BST Dale wrote: > I just got to figure out how to make it so I can login as root via ssh > again. I set PermitRootLogin to yes in ssh config but still refuses. I > did it on my NAS box but can't recall what else I had to do. Just checking the obvious, did you

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Mickaël Bucas wrote: > Hi > > Le sam. 27 avr. 2024 à 18:53, Dale a écrit : >> Howdy, >> >> I'm installing Gentoo on another old box. > I was wondering how old this box could be and if it had a BIOS with > UEFI and GPT. > > I didn't find a precise date for BIOS, but Wikipedia[1] shows that the >

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp error. No network. Address family not supported.

2024-04-28 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 28 April 2024 03:29:09 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Saturday, 27 April 2024 23:30:46 BST Dale wrote: [snip ...] > >> Anyone ever seen this? Searching didn't help. This is a new kernel so > >> maybe I missed something in there? > > > > Yes, most likely. > > > > What does

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 28 April 2024 06:24:09 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:53:25 BST Dale wrote: [snip ...] > >> I did some research but still find myself in some muddy > >> waters. My take on some things I've read, I need a boot partition, not > >> to be confused with

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Mickaël Bucas
Hi Le sam. 27 avr. 2024 à 18:53, Dale a écrit : > Howdy, > > I'm installing Gentoo on another old box. I was wondering how old this box could be and if it had a BIOS with UEFI and GPT. I didn't find a precise date for BIOS, but Wikipedia[1] shows that the first version of Windows for x64 that

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-27 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:53:25 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I'm installing Gentoo on another old box. To be consistent I like to >> use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my drives, >> regardless of size. > GPT is the partition table structure, which is

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp error. No network. Address family not supported.

2024-04-27 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 27 April 2024 23:30:46 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I finally got Gentoo on the old rig I had laying around. This is not >> the one I usually refer to as NAS box. I named this one NAS2. LOL I >> got one problem that is confusing me. I've compared it to my main

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp error. No network. Address family not supported.

2024-04-27 Thread Daniel Frey
On 4/27/24 15:30, Dale wrote: Howdy, I finally got Gentoo on the old rig I had laying around.  This is not the one I usually refer to as NAS box.  I named this one NAS2.  LOL  I got one problem that is confusing me.  I've compared it to my main rig and the install guide and I think I got

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp error. No network. Address family not supported.

2024-04-27 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 27 April 2024 23:30:46 BST Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I finally got Gentoo on the old rig I had laying around. This is not > the one I usually refer to as NAS box. I named this one NAS2. LOL I > got one problem that is confusing me. I've compared it to my main rig > and the

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp error. No network. Address family not supported.

2024-04-27 Thread Daniel Frey
On 4/27/24 15:30, Dale wrote: Howdy, I finally got Gentoo on the old rig I had laying around.  This is not the one I usually refer to as NAS box.  I named this one NAS2.  LOL  I got one problem that is confusing me.  I've compared it to my main rig and the install guide and I think I got

[gentoo-user] dhcp error. No network. Address family not supported.

2024-04-27 Thread Dale
Howdy, I finally got Gentoo on the old rig I had laying around.  This is not the one I usually refer to as NAS box.  I named this one NAS2.  LOL  I got one problem that is confusing me.  I've compared it to my main rig and the install guide and I think I got everything right but maybe I have a

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-27 Thread Wols Lists
On 27/04/2024 17:53, Dale wrote: Howdy, I'm installing Gentoo on another old box.  To be consistent I like to use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my drives, regardless of size.  Thing is, Grub works differently with GPT than it does with the old DOS or whatever it is called,

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-27 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:53:25 BST Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I'm installing Gentoo on another old box. To be consistent I like to > use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my drives, > regardless of size. GPT is the partition table structure, which is more advanced than the

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 9:53 AM Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > I'm installing Gentoo on another old box. To be consistent I like to > use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my drives, > regardless of size. Thing is, Grub works differently with GPT than it > does with the old DOS or

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-27 Thread Wojciech Kuzyszyn
On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:53:25 -0500 Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I'm installing Gentoo on another old box.  To be consistent I like to > use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my drives, > regardless of size.  Thing is, Grub works differently with GPT than it > does with the old DOS

[gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-27 Thread Dale
Howdy, I'm installing Gentoo on another old box.  To be consistent I like to use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my drives, regardless of size.  Thing is, Grub works differently with GPT than it does with the old DOS or whatever it is called, like fdisk does in the old days.  I

[gentoo-user] nullmailer error

2024-04-27 Thread ralfconn
Hello, after a recent world update nullmailer stopped working. /var/log/nullmailer/nullmailer.log shows for every message send attempt: "smtp: Failed: Error completing TLS handshake: The encryption algorithm is not supported." Downgrading gnutls to 3.8.3 fixed the issue for me. I opened a

Re: [gentoo-user] Hibernation without initramfs

2024-04-26 Thread Michael
On Friday, 26 April 2024 10:23:28 BST Wojciech Kuzyszyn wrote: > On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 09:40:54 +0100 > > Michael wrote: > > [*] Hibernation (aka 'suspend to disk') > > [*] Userspace snapshot device > > (/dev/sdb6)Default resume partition > > My swap partition is /dev/nvme0n1p2 - this would

Re: [gentoo-user] Hibernation without initramfs

2024-04-26 Thread Wojciech Kuzyszyn
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 09:40:54 +0100 Michael wrote: > [*] Hibernation (aka 'suspend to disk') > [*] Userspace snapshot device > (/dev/sdb6)Default resume partition My swap partition is /dev/nvme0n1p2 - this would work I assume, right? > However, if you are using RAM heavily when you try

Re: [gentoo-user] Hibernation without initramfs

2024-04-26 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:29:01 BST Wojciech Kuzyszyn wrote: > Hello! > > Quick question: is it possible to use hibernation (suspend to disk) > with no initramfs? Yes. > I don't have one and don't want to have one. So I'd > rather disable hibernate in kernel (so I won't do this by accident)

[gentoo-user] Hibernation without initramfs

2024-04-25 Thread Wojciech Kuzyszyn
Hello! Quick question: is it possible to use hibernation (suspend to disk) with no initramfs? I don't have one and don't want to have one. So I'd rather disable hibernate in kernel (so I won't do this by accident) or leave it to use it happily when needed. -- xWK pgpeMbvAVQkat.pgp

[gentoo-user] Permanent workaround for x11-libs/libxcb build problem

2024-04-23 Thread Walter Dnes
Some machines (e.g. my laptop) experience problems when building the package x11-libs/libxcb = Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/tmp/portage/x11-libs/libxcb-1.16.1/work/libxcb-1.16.1/src/c_client.py", line 3395,

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-22 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > Hi Dale, > > On Sunday, 21 April 2024 03:32:32 BST Dale wrote: > >> OK. I did my weekend OS updates on my main rig, fireball. That >> involves me switching to boot runlevel and back again. When the network >> started, no message about going to default. It just showed it

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-22 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 21 April 2024 20:36:56 BST J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Friday, 19 April 2024 16:05:47 CEST Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > > > I'm playing around with my NAS box again. I ran into a network issue. > > I sorta forgot I unplugged the network cable so obviously, it made it > > difficult to ssh

Re: SOLVED: Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 21 April 2024 23:30:54 BST Wol wrote: > On 19/04/2024 17:02, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > Just reporting back. > > > > I built a new system - using NetworkManager (after all I've said about > > it!) - now that it's so much quicker using binpkgs. > > > > It all went fairly smoothly,

Re: SOLVED: Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-21 Thread Wol
On 19/04/2024 17:02, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday, 9 April 2024 14:23:31 BST I wrote: Just reporting back. I built a new system - using NetworkManager (after all I've said about it!) - now that it's so much quicker using binpkgs. It all went fairly smoothly, taking one step at a time

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, 19 April 2024 16:05:47 CEST Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I'm playing around with my NAS box again. I ran into a network issue. > I sorta forgot I unplugged the network cable so obviously, it made it > difficult to ssh into the thing from my main rig. After hooking up a > monitor and

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-21 Thread Michael
Hi Dale, On Sunday, 21 April 2024 03:32:32 BST Dale wrote: > OK. I did my weekend OS updates on my main rig, fireball. That > involves me switching to boot runlevel and back again. When the network > started, no message about going to default. It just showed it starting > up and using DHCP.

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-20 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Friday, 19 April 2024 18:04:57 BST Dale wrote: > >> I'm missing something. > I don't think you are. Shutdown your main rig. Pull the ethernet cable. > Reboot. If the main rig's config is the same as the old rig, > > AND > > the router addressing is analogous on both PCs, >

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Michael
On Friday, 19 April 2024 18:04:57 BST Dale wrote: > I'm missing something. I don't think you are. Shutdown your main rig. Pull the ethernet cable. Reboot. If the main rig's config is the same as the old rig, AND the router addressing is analogous on both PCs, THEN their behaviour and

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Friday, 19 April 2024 17:20:44 BST Dale wrote: >> Matt Connell wrote: >>> On Fri, 2024-04-19 at 09:05 -0500, Dale wrote: Basically, I want to be able to start/stop/restart enp3s0 as a service and have it in a runlevel. >>> You should just need to create a symlink at

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Matt Connell
On Fri, 2024-04-19 at 17:34 +0100, Michael wrote: > Configure static IP addresses for all your LAN devices on your home > router.  Then set your devices to use DHCP to obtain an address from > the router when they come up.  With a large number of devices which > often change (e.g. guests in a

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Michael
On Friday, 19 April 2024 17:20:44 BST Dale wrote: > Matt Connell wrote: > > On Fri, 2024-04-19 at 09:05 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> Basically, I want to be able to start/stop/restart enp3s0 as a > >> service and have it in a runlevel. > > > > You should just need to create a symlink at

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Michael
On Friday, 19 April 2024 17:26:43 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Friday, 19 April 2024 15:05:47 BST Dale wrote: > >> Anyway, while investigating this, I realized the network setup is not > >> like on my old rig. Heck, I couldn't even figure out how to restart it > >> other than switching

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Friday, 19 April 2024 15:05:47 BST Dale wrote: > >> Anyway, while investigating this, I realized the network setup is not >> like on my old rig. Heck, I couldn't even figure out how to restart it >> other than switching to the boot runlevel and back to default, or >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Dale
Matt Connell wrote: > On Fri, 2024-04-19 at 09:05 -0500, Dale wrote: >> Basically, I want to be able to start/stop/restart enp3s0 as a >> service and have it in a runlevel.  > You should just need to create a symlink at /etc/init.d/net.enp3s0 that > points to /etc/init.d/net.lo and then you can do

SOLVED: Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 9 April 2024 14:23:31 BST I wrote: > I want to move my Intel i5 NUC box to a place where Ethernet is not > available, nor like to become so. That means I have to get WiFi working, > but I've had no success so far. The wiki pages are many, confusing and > contradictory, so I'd like the

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Michael
On Friday, 19 April 2024 15:05:47 BST Dale wrote: > Anyway, while investigating this, I realized the network setup is not > like on my old rig. Heck, I couldn't even figure out how to restart it > other than switching to the boot runlevel and back to default, or > rebooting. After a bit, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Matt Connell
On Fri, 2024-04-19 at 09:05 -0500, Dale wrote: > Basically, I want to be able to start/stop/restart enp3s0 as a > service and have it in a runlevel.  You should just need to create a symlink at /etc/init.d/net.enp3s0 that points to /etc/init.d/net.lo and then you can do the usual rc-service stuff

[gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Dale
Howdy, I'm playing around with my NAS box again.  I ran into a network issue.  I sorta forgot I unplugged the network cable so obviously, it made it difficult to ssh into the thing from my main rig.  After hooking up a monitor and keyboard, I found the problem and plugged the network cable back

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-18 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 07:26:30AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >> If you don't play games, then definitely get integrated graphics. >>> I'd add to this, you could still play many games, especially older games >>> using >>> a modern APU. The integrated graphics

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-18 Thread Mike Civil
On 18/04/2024 13:26, Dale wrote: The biggest reason I like a separate video card, I can upgrade if needed.  Built in video means a new mobo. Having a motherboard that supports an apu doesn't preclude adding a separate graphics card later if required (viz a lot of laptops that come so

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-18 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 07:26:30AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > If you don't play games, then definitely get integrated graphics. > > I'd add to this, you could still play many games, especially older games > > using > > a modern APU. The integrated graphics capability is broadly comparable > >

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-18 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Wednesday, 17 April 2024 23:13:40 BST Dale wrote: >> Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >>> Am Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 01:18:39PM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: > If you don't play games, then definitely get

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-18 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 17 April 2024 23:13:40 BST Dale wrote: > Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 01:18:39PM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > >> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote: > >>> Rich Freeman wrote: > All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-17, Dale wrote: > >> I still use Nvidia and use nvidia drivers.  I to run into problems >> on occasion with drivers and kernels.  When you switched from >> Nvidia, what did you switch too? Do you still use drivers you >> install or kernel drivers? > All in-tree

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 01:18:39PM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: >> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote: >>> Rich Freeman wrote: >>> All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video outputs do not require the CPU to have a GPU built in.

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote: >> Rich Freeman wrote: >> >>> All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video outputs >>> do not require the CPU to have a GPU built in. The ports just don't >>> do anything if this is lacking, and you would need a

[gentoo-user] Re: NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> If you don't play games, then definitely get integrated graphics. >> Even if the CPU costs a tiny bit more, it will give you a free empty >> 16x PCIe slot at whatever speed the CPU supports (v5 in this case - >> which is as good as you can get right

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dale wrote: > I still use Nvidia and use nvidia drivers.  I to run into problems > on occasion with drivers and kernels.  When you switched from > Nvidia, what did you switch too? Do you still use drivers you > install or kernel drivers? All in-tree kernel drivers for integrated

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Meik Frischke wrote: > Am 2024-04-17 12:33, schrieb Dale: >> I found a benchmark website that compares the two.  Link below.  It >> claims about 80% faster.  In some ways, twice as fast. Sometimes those >> bench tests don't reflect the real world to well.  Most of them seem to >> test gaming

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 01:18:39PM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote: > > > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > > All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video outputs > > > do not require the CPU to have a GPU built in. The ports just don't > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > > 2) Lack of support for old hardware when running a newer kernels. > > I used to run into this when running nvidia-drivers. > Gentoo-sources would mark a new kernel stable, but my video board > would not be supported by nvidia-drivers versions that were >

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Wednesday, 2024-04-17 14:11:21 -, you wrote: > >> ... >> If what you want is access to all upstream longeterm kernel versions, >> then you should be using sys-kernel/vanilla-sources. > > I was not aware of this package. Excatly what

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Wols Lists
On 17/04/2024 10:10, Michael wrote: I am not sure the assumption "... aging hardware possibly can less and less cope with newer and newer kernels" is correct. As already mentioned newer kernels have both security and bug fixes. As long as you stick with stable gentoo-sources you'll have these

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Meik Frischke
Am 2024-04-17 12:33, schrieb Dale: I found a benchmark website that compares the two.  Link below.  It claims about 80% faster.  In some ways, twice as fast. Sometimes those bench tests don't reflect the real world to well.  Most of them seem to test gaming speeds which isn't of much use anyway

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video outputs > > do not require the CPU to have a GPU built in. The ports just don't > > do anything if this is lacking, and you would need a dedicated GPU. > > > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Grant, On Wednesday, 2024-04-17 14:11:21 -, you wrote: > ... > If what you want is access to all upstream longeterm kernel versions, > then you should be using sys-kernel/vanilla-sources. I was not aware of this package. Excatly what could come in handy, if everything else fails. Thank

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Michael, On Wednesday, 2024-04-17 10:10:56 +0100, you wrote: > On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:26:25 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-04-16, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > ... > > > But, to get back to the beginning of this discussion: if there is a > > > risk that my aging hardware possibly can

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote: > >> ... >> That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm" >> kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm" >> kernel versions from kernel.org are

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Michael wrote: >> > But, to get back to the beginning of this discussion: if there is a >> > risk that my aging hardware possibly can less and less cope with >> > newer and newer kernels, should I put something like >> > >> >>=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-6.7.0 >> > >> > into

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 6:33 AM Dale wrote: >> On the AM5 link, I found a mobo that I kinda like. I still wish it had >> more PCIe slots tho. > AM5 has 28 PCIe lanes. Anything above that comes from a switch on the > motherboard. > > 0.1% of the population cares about

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 6:33 AM Dale wrote: > > On the AM5 link, I found a mobo that I kinda like. I still wish it had > more PCIe slots tho. AM5 has 28 PCIe lanes. Anything above that comes from a switch on the motherboard. 0.1% of the population cares about having anything on their

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 17 April 2024 11:37:04 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote: > > ... > > That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm" > > kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm" > > kernel versions

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:29:09 BST Eli Schwartz wrote: [Big snip] Never mind. I've solved the problem by removing sci-misc/boinc and its 40-odd dependencies. The machine was only barely capable of running it anyway. -- Regards, Peter.

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Grant, On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote: > ... > That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm" > kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm" > kernel versions from kernel.org are available as "stable" in > gentoo-sources. > > It is a

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:04:15AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > >> I've seen some server type mobos that have SAS connectors which gives >> several options.  Some of them tend to have more PCIe slots which some >> regular mobos don't anymore.  Then there is that ECC memory

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:26:25 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-16, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > Arve, > > > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 15:53:48 +0200, you wrote: > >> ... > >> Only LTS kernels get stabilised, so this information is readily > >> available. > > > > I'm sure I don't

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Arve, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 15:53:48 +0200, you wrote: > >> ... >> Only LTS kernels get stabilised, so this information is readily available. > > I'm sure I don't understand this: According to "https://www.kernel.org/; > kernel 6.6.27 is "longterm",

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Arve, On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 15:53:48 +0200, you wrote: > ... > Only LTS kernels get stabilised, so this information is readily available. I'm sure I don't understand this: According to "https://www.kernel.org/; kernel 6.6.27 is "longterm", but according to "eix" the most recent 6.6.*

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-16 Thread Eli Schwartz
On April 16, 2024 10:44:55 AM EDT, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >This is what I get after this morning's update: > > >Dependency resolution took 16.03 s (backtrack: 0/20). > >[ebuild N ] gui-libs/gtk-4.12.5:4::gentoo USE="X cups gstreamer >introspection wayland (-aqua) -broadway

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Dale wrote: > I've never understood what is supported long term either.  I use > gentoo-sources.  I've never figured out just how to pick a kernel that > is supposed to be stable for the larger version.  In other words, only > security and bug fixes, no new hardware.  Right now,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-16, Arve Barsnes wrote: >> On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok >> wrote: My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS upstream releases. >>> Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok > wrote: >>> My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS >>> upstream releases. >> Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just >> looking at the available

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok > wrote: >> > My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS >> > upstream releases. >> >> Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just >> looking at the

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
(Rearranged in chronological order...) On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:08:33 BST Waldo Lemmer wrote: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 15:43 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Monday, 15 April 2024 12:19:02 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: --->8 > > I'm still mystified by these Gentoo binary packages. I assume that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Jack
On 4/16/24 7:15 AM, Michael wrote: On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:55:20 BST Dale wrote: If you update often, it shouldn't take long answer the questions. If you do like me and don't update often, it may take longer but no more time than it would if you updated often and added all the time

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-16 Thread Waldo Lemmer
If you add --ask --verbose, Portage should tell you why it's falling back to the source package. Does your emerge command include --getbinpkg, or -g? On Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 15:43 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 15 April 2024 12:19:02 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > [Big snip] >

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-16 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:43, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I'm still mystified by these Gentoo binary packages. I assume that they're > generated using the default USE flags in the profile version (whence the need > to > specify it in gentoobinhost.conf). > > So why is portage not fetching webkit-gtk

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS > > upstream releases. > > Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just > looking at the available "gentoo-sources" which one is LTS and

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 15 April 2024 12:19:02 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, [Big snip] I'm still mystified by these Gentoo binary packages. I assume that they're generated using the default USE flags in the profile version (whence the need to specify it in gentoobinhost.conf). So why is portage

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Michael, On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 11:15:07 +0100, you wrote: > ... > > But this brings up two related questions: > > > > 1. Why does Gentoo not somehow mark LTS kernels either in the version > >number or in the slot name? This would make it easier to prevent the > >installation of too

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:55:20 BST Dale wrote: > >> If you update often, it shouldn't take long answer the questions. If >> you do like me and don't update often, it may take longer but no more >> time than it would if you updated often and added all the time >> together. As

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:55:20 BST Dale wrote: > If you update often, it shouldn't take long answer the questions. If > you do like me and don't update often, it may take longer but no more > time than it would if you updated often and added all the time > together. As far as I know, if one

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > > On Monday, 2024-04-15 12:48:34 +0100, you wrote: > >> ... >> Why have you set your /boot to be mounted at boot? > Well, I think, I then just followed the Gentoo Handbook. But I see your > point of saving time which could be better used to successfully

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 10:04:43 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > > On Monday, 2024-04-15 12:48:34 +0100, you wrote: > > ... > > Why have you set your /boot to be mounted at boot? > > Well, I think, I then just followed the Gentoo Handbook. But I see your > point of saving time which

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Michael, On Monday, 2024-04-15 12:48:34 +0100, you wrote: > ... > Why have you set your /boot to be mounted at boot? Well, I think, I then just followed the Gentoo Handbook. But I see your point of saving time which could be better used to successfully unmount the "/home/" partition. I'll

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-15 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:04:15AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >>> The physical connector is called M.2. The dimensions of the “sticks” are >>> given in a number such as 2280, meaning 22 mm wide and 80 mm long. There >>> are >>> different lengths available from 30 to 110

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