Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-29 Thread Dale
Adam Carter wrote: > > But I understand what classes was.  If CIDR replaced the word > classes, I would have had to google or ask what the heck that > is.  lol  > > > CIDR moved Internet routing away from fixed 8, 16 and 24 bit > netmasks. The / representation is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-29 Thread Adam Carter
> But I understand what classes was. If CIDR replaced the word classes, I >> would have had to google or ask what the heck that is. lol >> > > CIDR moved Internet routing away from fixed 8, 16 and 24 bit netmasks. The > / representation is CIDR. > The C in CIDR is for Classless :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-29 Thread Adam Carter
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 10:29 AM Dale wrote: > Adam Carter wrote: > > Using classes is pretty old terminology. IETF introduced CIDR in '93! Yes, > I still catch myself doing it too. > > > But I understand what classes was. If CIDR replaced the word classes, I > would have had to google or ask

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-29 Thread Dale
Adam Carter wrote: > > > Using classes is pretty old terminology. IETF introduced CIDR in > '93! Yes, I still catch myself doing it too. > But I understand what classes was.  If CIDR replaced the word classes, I would have had to google or ask what the heck that is.  lol  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-29 Thread Adam Carter
Using classes is pretty old terminology. IETF introduced CIDR in '93! Yes, I still catch myself doing it too.

[gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2019-04-28, Wols Lists wrote: > On 28/04/19 00:37, Dale wrote: > >> I'm no networking guru by any stretch, I'm sure others would agree >> with that, but that's my thinking. After all, if you have a >> printer with the same IP, how would it know mine from yours unless >> it is local only?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-28 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 28/04/19 00:37, Dale wrote: >> I'm no networking guru by any stretch, I'm sure others would agree with >> that, but that's my thinking. After all, if you have a printer with the >> same IP, how would it know mine from yours unless it is local only? >> From my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 28/04/19 00:37, Dale wrote: > I'm no networking guru by any stretch, I'm sure others would agree with > that, but that's my thinking. After all, if you have a printer with the > same IP, how would it know mine from yours unless it is local only? > From my understanding, 192.168.*.* addresses

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Dale
Manuel McLure wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 2:43 PM Dale > wrote: > > I do have a router, that's what the printer is connected too.  I can't > recall what it is called but remember the DSL modem is supposed to be > pretty secure on its own.  I think

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Manuel McLure
On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 2:43 PM Dale wrote: > I do have a router, that's what the printer is connected too. I can't > recall what it is called but remember the DSL modem is supposed to be > pretty secure on its own. I think it can work in bridge mode or > router/whatever mode. Now that I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 09:54:21AM -0500, Dale wrote: > >> The biggest reason I wanted laser is the cost of ink.  The second >> reason, longevity of the ink once it is on paper.  From my >> understanding, once the toner is set on the paper, water won't make it >> come

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 05:21:16PM -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > 190427 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 11:28:05AM -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I was printing a multi-page recipe and the first page came out, > >> then it pulled it back in and I was like, what ? > >> Then it came out

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2019-04-26, Dale wrote: > >> P. S.  Is there anything special I should do to make sure no one can >> access my printer over the internet and do something bad?  Does the DSL >> modem and router protect that by default?  > All the DSL modems I've ever seen were also

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Dale
Philip Webb wrote: > 190427 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 11:28:05AM -0500, Dale wrote: >>> I was printing a multi-page recipe and the first page came out, >>> then it pulled it back in and I was like, what ? >>> Then it came out again, printed on both sides. >> What’s the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Philip Webb
190427 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 11:28:05AM -0500, Dale wrote: >> I was printing a multi-page recipe and the first page came out, >> then it pulled it back in and I was like, what ? >> Then it came out again, printed on both sides. > What’s the problem with first printing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 11:28:05AM -0500, Dale wrote: > One thing that surprised me.  I was printing a multi-page recipe and the > first page came out, then it pulled it back in and I was like, what?  > Then it came out again, printed on both sides.  When I realized it was > printing both sides,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 09:54:21AM -0500, Dale wrote: > The biggest reason I wanted laser is the cost of ink.  The second > reason, longevity of the ink once it is on paper.  From my > understanding, once the toner is set on the paper, water won't make it > come off like it does on a lot of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Wol's lists
On 27/04/2019 18:04, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday, 27 April 2019 16:42:39 BST Wols Lists wrote: Laser printers cost up front, but once I've paid for this set of cartridges I'm probably set up for a couple of years. Just don't expect modern lasers to go on and on, and budget to replace it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Saturday, 27 April 2019 17:28:05 BST Dale wrote: >> Mick wrote: >>> Printers are plug 'n play these days. There is no manual configuration >>> needed, unless your PCs and/or router configurations do not use >>> zeroconf/mDNS. >> Well, I could access it thorough its web interface

[gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2019-04-26, Dale wrote: > P. S.  Is there anything special I should do to make sure no one can > access my printer over the internet and do something bad?  Does the DSL > modem and router protect that by default?  All the DSL modems I've ever seen were also NAT/router/firewalls, if that's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Mick
On Saturday, 27 April 2019 17:28:05 BST Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: > > Printers are plug 'n play these days. There is no manual configuration > > needed, unless your PCs and/or router configurations do not use > > zeroconf/mDNS. > Well, I could access it thorough its web interface but it wouldn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 27 April 2019 16:42:39 BST Wols Lists wrote: > ... And unfortunately, yes, if you want photos then use an ink-jet. I once found a dye-sublimation printer for photos, but it has two snags: it can only print 6x4" and it's Windows only. I still have it in the cupboard, ready for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 26/04/19 18:00, Dale wrote: >> Only printed the test pages but they look neato!!! I hope to give this >> thing a test drive once I know it is set up correctly. >> >> Thanks to all for the help. This may be the best printer I've ever >> had. :-D >> > Just don't expect it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Friday, 26 April 2019 18:00:13 BST Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2019-04-22, Dale wrote: On the question of ethernet. [...] Do I plug the printer into the router or do I have to connect it to the puter itself? I think I read somewhere ages ago, on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Wols Lists
On 26/04/19 18:00, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2019-04-22, Dale wrote: >> >>> On the question of ethernet. [...] Do I plug the printer into the >>> router or do I have to connect it to the puter itself? I think I >>> read somewhere ages ago, on this list most likely, that you plug

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 6:00 AM Mick wrote: > > Printers are plug 'n play these days. There is no manual configuration > needed, unless your PCs and/or router configurations do not use zeroconf/mDNS. > I don't think that routers need to do anything to support mDNS - I think it is purely a P2P

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread karl
Mick: > On Friday, 26 April 2019 18:00:13 BST Dale wrote: ... > > Picking last reply. I got the printer, removed all the shipping stuff, > > did the normal setup and got a test page printed from CUPS, in color. > > I'm taking this from the CUPS printer page that shows the connection. > > It

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Mick
On Friday, 26 April 2019 18:00:13 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2019-04-22, Dale wrote: > >> On the question of ethernet. [...] Do I plug the printer into the > >> router or do I have to connect it to the puter itself? I think I > >> read somewhere ages ago, on this list most

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-26 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2019-04-22, Dale wrote: > >> On the question of ethernet. [...] Do I plug the printer into the >> router or do I have to connect it to the puter itself? I think I >> read somewhere ages ago, on this list most likely, that you plug it >> into the router. > Yes, that's

[gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2019-04-22, Dale wrote: > On the question of ethernet. [...] Do I plug the printer into the > router or do I have to connect it to the puter itself? I think I > read somewhere ages ago, on this list most likely, that you plug it > into the router. Yes, that's how it's usually done. > That

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-22 Thread Dale
Manuel McLure wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 7:54 AM Dale > wrote: > > I ended up ordering that Lexmark C2325dw printer.  Given the price of > the printer itself and the fact that folks on here said it should > work, > and openprinting says it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-22 Thread Manuel McLure
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 7:54 AM Dale wrote: > I ended up ordering that Lexmark C2325dw printer. Given the price of > the printer itself and the fact that folks on here said it should work, > and openprinting says it too, I think that is the best printer for what > I need. It may get a workout

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-22 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2019-04-21, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 6:42 AM Mick wrote: >>> A laser printer is *much* more economical to run than inkjets. The toner >>> cartridges never dry out - with inkjet you often replace the ink before it >>> has >>> run out, because it

[gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2019-04-21, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 6:42 AM Mick wrote: >> >> A laser printer is *much* more economical to run than inkjets. The toner >> cartridges never dry out - with inkjet you often replace the ink before it >> has >> run out, because it has dried out. Initially