Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/16/2014 6:04 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever gets rid of LVM is good on my book. I've never understood why people uses it, and in my experience it only brings headaches. One very big reason to have been using it on linux - since it is only relatively recently

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-17 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 01:06:41PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote LVM is an excellent solution for what it was designed to do, which is to deal with stuff like this: Oops. I misjudged how big /var/log needed to be and now I need to add 50G to that partition. But it's sda6 and I have up to

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 20:33, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 15.05.2014 20:05, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: With -H, you don't get the kernel cmdline, and therefore your kernel cannot load your LVM volumes since it doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 15.05.2014 20:33, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 15.05.2014 20:05, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: With -H, you don't get the kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/05/2014 12:04, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Whatever gets rid of LVM is good on my book. I've never understood why people uses it, and in my experience it only brings headaches. Besides, I've heard from many people that btrfs is the way to go in the future. I'm not ready to make the change

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread covici
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/05/2014 12:04, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Whatever gets rid of LVM is good on my book. I've never understood why people uses it, and in my experience it only brings headaches. Besides, I've heard from many people that btrfs is the way to

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Bruce Schultz
On 16 May 2014 7:46:29 PM AEST, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 15.05.2014 20:33, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 15.05.2014 20:05, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: With -H, you don't get the kernel cmdline,

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 May 2014 07:14:27 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: So far, I have liked lvm, what's the advantage of btrfs over lvm? I have only looked at btrfs, with a consideration for switching from ZFS, but it seems to offer the same advantages as ZFS. That is, it makes things even easier

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 16.05.2014 13:56, schrieb Bruce Schultz: I ask because in all my reorganizing furor I also thought that now with btrfs only I could get rid of lvm mdraid as dracut-modules. I can try ... ;-) (don't call me ricer) If you have a multi-disk btrfs, I think you need to add the btrfs dracut

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/05/2014 13:14, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/05/2014 12:04, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Whatever gets rid of LVM is good on my book. I've never understood why people uses it, and in my experience it only brings headaches. Besides, I've

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 16.05.2014 14:03, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Fri, 16 May 2014 07:14:27 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: So far, I have liked lvm, what's the advantage of btrfs over lvm? I have only looked at btrfs, with a consideration for switching

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 May 2014 14:35:08 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: zfs on linux ... it works fine for me on one server, but I never really wanted it on my main machines (desktop and laptops) although I once even wrote some how to use zfs on your fully encrypted laptop for a magazine. It always

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread covici
Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 16.05.2014 14:03, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Fri, 16 May 2014 07:14:27 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: So far, I have liked lvm, what's the advantage of btrfs over lvm? I have only looked at btrfs, with a consideration for switching

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 16.05.2014 14:43, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Fri, 16 May 2014 14:35:08 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: zfs on linux ... it works fine for me on one server, but I never really wanted it on my main machines (desktop and laptops) although I

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 16.05.2014 14:54, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com: Thanks much for that explanation. So where do I find some documentation for btrfs and its user space tools? There are many howtos and wiki-pages ... some examples, gentoo-related: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Getting_started

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread covici
Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 16.05.2014 14:54, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com: Thanks much for that explanation. So where do I find some documentation for btrfs and its user space tools? There are many howtos and wiki-pages ... some examples, gentoo-related:

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 16.05.2014 13:56, schrieb Bruce Schultz: I ask because in all my reorganizing furor I also thought that now with btrfs only I could get rid of lvm mdraid as dracut-modules. I can try ... ;-) (don't call me ricer)

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 May 2014 15:03:43 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: That's why I'm looking at btrfs. ZFS is great, it does all I want it to. But it is not in the kernel, which is not a major issue. More important is that it is based on an old version of ZFS, later versions are still closed

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Fri, 16 May 2014 13:06:41 +0200 schrieb Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: On 16/05/2014 12:04, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Whatever gets rid of LVM is good on my book. I've never understood why people uses it, and in my experience it only brings headaches. Besides, I've heard from

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Fri, 16 May 2014 07:14:27 -0400 schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com: [...] Also, what kernel do you need for this to function -- and last question, how to convert an lvm volume to btrfs, or do you just have to make some space somewhere and copy the files? I am not aware of being able to directly

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: [ It's been more than a week since I last participated in the thread, so I'm just replying to my last participation. ] Stefan, have you tried to run dracut --print-cmdline and add that to your kernel command line? By

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: [ It's been more than a week since I last participated in the thread, so I'm just replying to my last participation. ] Stefan, have you

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 08:49, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: [ It's been more than a week since I last participated in the thread, so I'm just replying

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 09:08, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 15.05.2014 08:49, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: [ It's been more than a week since

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread covici
Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 15.05.2014 09:08, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 15.05.2014 08:49, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 11:58, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com: What is kerninst? I do not see it in the repository. https://github.com/canek-pelaez/kerninst ... but it uses GRUB2

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 4:14 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 15.05.2014 09:08, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 15.05.2014 08:49, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Canek

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 20:05, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: With -H, you don't get the kernel cmdline, and therefore your kernel cannot load your LVM volumes since it doesn't know their... names? I don't knot the terminology. In any case, you need to set --hostonly-cmdline (or hostonly_cmdline=yes

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 20:27, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 15.05.2014 20:05, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: With -H, you don't get the kernel cmdline, and therefore your kernel cannot load your LVM volumes since it doesn't know their... names? I don't knot the terminology. In any case, you need

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 15.05.2014 20:05, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: With -H, you don't get the kernel cmdline, and therefore your kernel cannot load your LVM volumes since it doesn't know their... names? I don't knot the terminology.

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 04.05.2014 21:22, schrieb J. Roeleveld: On Sunday, May 04, 2014 09:03:08 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: People run KVM-hosts with storage on ZFS ... nice with the snapshots etc ... Does KVM support running snapshots? Eg. also storing the memory and registers? I have not found any

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 04.05.2014 22:09, schrieb Neil Bothwick: It was far simpler than that and did not involve copying data. You can change the hostname using one of the mdadm management commands AFAIR (I meant man mdadm not man lvm of course). option

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 05.05.2014 07:09, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Let me try to update this test VM to see if I can hit the same issue as you. OK, I updated everything, and I certainly hit an issue. With

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 05.05.2014 07:09, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Let me try to update this test VM to see if I can hit the same issue as you. OK, I

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, May 05, 2014 08:10:55 AM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 04.05.2014 21:22, schrieb J. Roeleveld: On Sunday, May 04, 2014 09:03:08 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: People run KVM-hosts with storage on ZFS ... nice with the snapshots etc ... Does KVM support running snapshots?

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, May 05, 2014 08:14:07 AM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 04.05.2014 22:09, schrieb Neil Bothwick: It was far simpler than that and did not involve copying data. You can change the hostname using one of the mdadm management commands AFAIR (I meant man mdadm not man lvm of course).

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, May 05, 2014 08:52:08 AM J. Roeleveld wrote: On Monday, May 05, 2014 08:10:55 AM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 04.05.2014 21:22, schrieb J. Roeleveld: On Sunday, May 04, 2014 09:03:08 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: People run KVM-hosts with storage on ZFS ... nice with the

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 05.05.2014 09:09, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Update: I just found the following page (didn't show up last year using Google): http://redes-privadas-virtuales.blogspot.nl/2011/03/taking-snapshots-on-kvm-with-libvirt.html Memory-snapshot appears possible as well. Time to start testing this.

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 05.05.2014 08:52, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Thanks, but I had that as well ... I will skip that stuff and try going the UEFI-way later this day, if my customers allow ... Good luck (with your customers) customers quiet so far ... so I fired up a live cd and re-did all this. long story

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread Tom H
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 2:48 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Sunday, May 04, 2014 01:15:51 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 03 May 2014 20:40:47 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: * SystemRescueCD and the Gentoo minimal installation CD both start any raid arrays they find and apply their

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 05 May 2014 08:14:07 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: It was far simpler than that and did not involve copying data. You can change the hostname using one of the mdadm management commands AFAIR (I meant man mdadm not man lvm of course). option --update=homehost ? That's the

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, May 05, 2014 09:48:50 AM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 05.05.2014 09:09, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Update: I just found the following page (didn't show up last year using Google): http://redes-privadas-virtuales.blogspot.nl/2011/03/taking-snapshots-on-kv m-with-libvirt.html

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 05.05.2014 11:14, schrieb J. Roeleveld: That will take some time. Earliest moment I might have the time would be June as I need to find a decent howto on setting up KVM along with libvirt on a test system. I do that for a living :-P just kidding ... S

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, May 05, 2014 01:25:52 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 05.05.2014 11:14, schrieb J. Roeleveld: That will take some time. Earliest moment I might have the time would be June as I need to find a decent howto on setting up KVM along with libvirt on a test system. I do that for a

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 03 May 2014 23:04:49 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 03.05.2014 22:50, schrieb Peter Humphrey: Yes, I noticed that annoyance myself. I would much prefer it to default to more logical names. If the docs had included that little snippet I'd have saved myself many a

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 04.05.2014 03:56, schrieb Mark Pariente: I had a similar issue after upgrading to sys-apps/systemd-212-r3. Turned out it was due to udev rules.d directory location. I still had a bunch of udev rules under /usr/lib64/udev/rules.d and it looks like the new systemd/udev is only looking at

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 04.05.2014 10:53, schrieb Peter Humphrey: I spent nearly the whole day digging around this issue ... You did better than I did recently: I spent four days at it. phew! ;-) I wonder if I speak for more users when I say that all this is kind of confusing sometimes ... I'm with you

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, May 04, 2014 09:53:35 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 03 May 2014 23:04:49 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I spent nearly the whole day digging around this issue ... You did better than I did recently: I spent four days at it. For mission-critical systems, I would have done a

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, May 04, 2014 11:15:22 AM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Do I have to change things because it's better that way, is it worth the effort ... ? Should I go away from RAID because LVM could stripe/mirror by itself? Should I go away from LVM because it's kinda old technology? ... all these

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 03 May 2014 20:40:47 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: * SystemRescueCD and the Gentoo minimal installation CD both start any raid arrays they find and apply their own names to them. It is then impossible, or so I thought, to resume an interrupted installation process. Of course, all I

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 04.05.2014 12:49, schrieb J. Roeleveld: I wouldn't use the stripe/mirror support in LVM as I don't think it is used often and I feel that functionality doesn't belong in LVM. If you want to move it all into a single layer, I would suggest ZFS instead. Oh, yes, I like ZFS and its features

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 04 May 2014 12:37:02 J. Roeleveld wrote: On Sunday, May 04, 2014 09:53:35 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 03 May 2014 23:04:49 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I spent nearly the whole day digging around this issue ... You did better than I did recently: I spent four days at

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, May 04, 2014 03:07:28 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 04.05.2014 12:49, schrieb J. Roeleveld: I wouldn't use the stripe/mirror support in LVM as I don't think it is used often and I feel that functionality doesn't belong in LVM. If you want to move it all into a single layer,

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, May 04, 2014 02:22:16 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 04 May 2014 12:37:02 J. Roeleveld wrote: On Sunday, May 04, 2014 09:53:35 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 03 May 2014 23:04:49 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I spent nearly the whole day digging around this issue ...

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, May 04, 2014 01:15:51 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 03 May 2014 20:40:47 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: * SystemRescueCD and the Gentoo minimal installation CD both start any raid arrays they find and apply their own names to them. It is then impossible, or so I thought, to

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 04.05.2014 20:40, schrieb J. Roeleveld: On Sunday, May 04, 2014 03:07:28 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Oh, yes, I like ZFS and its features and used it in some cases already. But I didn't yet take the step to set up ZFS-root on my work machines. I haven't yet, but it's on the list of

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, May 04, 2014 09:03:08 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 04.05.2014 20:40, schrieb J. Roeleveld: On Sunday, May 04, 2014 03:07:28 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Oh, yes, I like ZFS and its features and used it in some cases already. But I didn't yet take the step to set up

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 04 May 2014 20:48:05 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: ISTR that's because of the hostname stored in the RAID, so when you plug the array into another computer, it doesn't clobber any existing array names. I had this happen when transplanting an array to a new system. There is a sequence

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Let me try to update this test VM to see if I can hit the same issue as you. OK, I updated everything, and I certainly hit an issue. With sys-kernel/dracut-037, I cannot boot; it gets stuck after loading the

[gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
I see boot problems on two of my machines ... very likely related to lvm2 as far as I can tell so far. Downgraded and even disabled systemd, re-emerged stuff ... I am still at trying to find the reason. Maybe it is with the mdadm raids also ... I just want to ask you other gentoo users if

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 12:12, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: I see boot problems on two of my machines ... very likely related to lvm2 as far as I can tell so far. Downgraded and even disabled systemd, re-emerged stuff ... I am still at trying to find the reason. Maybe it is with the mdadm raids

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 3 May 2014 12:12:09 CEST, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: I see boot problems on two of my machines ... very likely related to lvm2 as far as I can tell so far. Downgraded and even disabled systemd, re-emerged stuff ... I am still at trying to find the reason. Maybe it is with the

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 12:27, schrieb J. Roeleveld: On 3 May 2014 12:12:09 CEST, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: I see boot problems on two of my machines ... very likely related to lvm2 as far as I can tell so far. Downgraded and even disabled systemd, re-emerged stuff ... I am still at

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, May 03, 2014 12:28:03 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 03.05.2014 12:12, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: I see boot problems on two of my machines ... very likely related to lvm2 as far as I can tell so far. Downgraded and even disabled systemd, re-emerged stuff ... I am

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, May 03, 2014 12:33:11 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 03.05.2014 12:27, schrieb J. Roeleveld: On 3 May 2014 12:12:09 CEST, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: I see boot problems on two of my machines ... very likely related to lvm2 as far as I can tell so far.

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 12:49, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Interesting. In your other email you mentioned you can access the LVM volumes using a rescue-cd. Are there any snapshots in there? Or did you do any recent changes to the LVs? I am wondering if there might be an issue with the metadata causing

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, May 03, 2014 12:56:11 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 03.05.2014 12:49, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Interesting. In your other email you mentioned you can access the LVM volumes using a rescue-cd. Are there any snapshots in there? Or did you do any recent changes to the LVs? I

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 12:54, schrieb J. Roeleveld: I don't use systemd, but as it's pushed by Redhat and redhat, by default, uses LVM, I would expect that part to work correctly together. Yes ... but I still don't fully get what services to enable to get it set up correctly. lvmetad yes or no,

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 13:05, schrieb J. Roeleveld: dracut = initramfs Did you update the initramfs recently? If out-of-sync with what is on the main environment, it could lead to issues. I worked with exactly this box around 10hrs ago and it booted fine then. I will check genlop what I upgraded

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, May 03, 2014 01:06:03 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 03.05.2014 12:54, schrieb J. Roeleveld: I don't use systemd, but as it's pushed by Redhat and redhat, by default, uses LVM, I would expect that part to work correctly together. Yes ... but I still don't fully get what

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, May 03, 2014 01:12:45 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 03.05.2014 13:05, schrieb J. Roeleveld: dracut = initramfs Did you update the initramfs recently? If out-of-sync with what is on the main environment, it could lead to issues. I worked with exactly this box around

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 13:19, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Sounds like an issue with the mdadm-raid devices. Try setting those up WITHOUT systemctl (or init.d-scripts) Then checking - /proc/mdstat - dmesg - logging Any of those might show an error. Maybe ssh-in from a seperate machine to enable the

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, May 03, 2014 01:26:23 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 03.05.2014 13:19, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Sounds like an issue with the mdadm-raid devices. Try setting those up WITHOUT systemctl (or init.d-scripts) Then checking - /proc/mdstat - dmesg - logging Any of those

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 13:26, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 03.05.2014 13:19, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Sounds like an issue with the mdadm-raid devices. Try setting those up WITHOUT systemctl (or init.d-scripts) Then checking - /proc/mdstat - dmesg - logging Any of those might show an error.

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, May 03, 2014 01:39:06 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 03.05.2014 13:26, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 03.05.2014 13:19, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Sounds like an issue with the mdadm-raid devices. Try setting those up WITHOUT systemctl (or init.d-scripts) Then checking -

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 14:03, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Booted with rd.auto=1 and now I also get a funny start job running/waiting for /dev/sda1 (/ on the SSD). Oh my! :-) That's no good. Something is not playing well. I would check the boot-scripts/unit-files/dependencies Yep, I do .. see other

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Todd Goodman
* Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at [140503 08:09]: Am 03.05.2014 13:39, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Booted with rd.auto=1 and now I also get a funny start job running/waiting for /dev/sda1 (/ on the SSD). Oh my! :-) pasta now. So, back from speed-lunch now ;-) While

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, May 03, 2014 02:08:26 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 03.05.2014 13:39, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Booted with rd.auto=1 and now I also get a funny start job running/waiting for /dev/sda1 (/ on the SSD). Oh my! :-) pasta now. So, back from speed-lunch now ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, May 03, 2014 02:09:39 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 03.05.2014 14:03, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Booted with rd.auto=1 and now I also get a funny start job running/waiting for /dev/sda1 (/ on the SSD). Oh my! :-) That's no good. Something is not playing well. I would

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 14:17, schrieb Todd Goodman: * Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at [140503 08:09]: Am 03.05.2014 13:39, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Booted with rd.auto=1 and now I also get a funny start job running/waiting for /dev/sda1 (/ on the SSD). Oh my! :-) pasta now. So, back

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 14:19, schrieb J. Roeleveld: On Saturday, May 03, 2014 02:09:39 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 03.05.2014 14:03, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Booted with rd.auto=1 and now I also get a funny start job running/waiting for /dev/sda1 (/ on the SSD). Oh my! :-) That's no good.

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 14:17, schrieb J. Roeleveld: (Don't ask for the strange setup with sdb3/sdc6 and sdb6/sdc3, historically grown somehow ...) Seen stranger, it works. What do the logs show when enabling them? Any odd messages? Just looked it up, nothing odd. To me it seems that the assembling

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Box boots now with kernel 3.14.1 and with commented LVs in fstab. When I login and check there are no mdadm-raids assembled. When I mdadm -A --scan they get correctly assembled: # cat /proc/mdstat Personalities :

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, May 03, 2014 02:43:39 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 03.05.2014 14:17, schrieb J. Roeleveld: (Don't ask for the strange setup with sdb3/sdc6 and sdb6/sdc3, historically grown somehow ...) Seen stranger, it works. What do the logs show when enabling them? Any odd

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 14:52, schrieb J. Roeleveld: If you boot without those in fstab, then do the mdadm and lvm steps manually, do you then have it working ? yes ... everything up and accessible then. If yes, I would leave it for now and wait for Canek to come online in a few hours. (Mexico

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Todd Goodman
* J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org [140503 08:24]: On Saturday, May 03, 2014 08:17:37 AM Todd Goodman wrote: snipped FWIW, I have a similar problem with mdadm and dracut and do something similarly to what's described in:

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 15:08, schrieb Todd Goodman: I wouldn't think so, but when I set up a new server somewhat recently I needed to do the same. I've heard of others who don't need to do anything special so it's likely some misconfiguration on my part. In my case it seems to be related to the

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 14:52, schrieb Tom H: Has mdadm.service to be enabled as well? Or is that redundant in a way? Try rd.md.uuid=... for all the md arrays that you want to bring up. Tested that right now, no mdadm-array assembled! Thanks anyway, Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: [snip] Sounds like an issue with the mdadm script/unit. Where is Canek with his knowledge of systemd? Canek was sleeping because it was 6:37 AM on a Saturday morning. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de asignatura,

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 15:46, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: [snip] Sounds like an issue with the mdadm script/unit. Where is Canek with his knowledge of systemd? Canek was sleeping because it was 6:37 AM on a Saturday morning.

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:52 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: [...] If you boot without those in fstab, then do the mdadm and lvm steps manually, do you then have it working ? If yes, I would leave it for now and wait for Canek to come online in a few hours. (Mexico should be awake

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 15:50, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:52 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: [...] If you boot without those in fstab, then do the mdadm and lvm steps manually, do you then have it working ? If yes, I would leave it for now and wait for Canek to

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 03.05.2014 15:46, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: [snip] Sounds like an issue with the mdadm script/unit. Where is Canek with his knowledge of

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 15:59, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: Regarding your problem; as I said to Joost, I have no idea what could possibly cause the problem, but from the experiments I conducted trying to understand what happened with systemd+LVM2, I got the impression that this kind of issue happens

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 3 May 2014 15:46:07 CEST, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: [snip] Sounds like an issue with the mdadm script/unit. Where is Canek with his knowledge of systemd? Canek was sleeping because it was 6:37 AM on a

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 3 May 2014 15:48:03 CEST, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 03.05.2014 15:46, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: [snip] Sounds like an issue with the mdadm script/unit. Where is Canek with his knowledge of systemd?

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 10:08 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On 3 May 2014 15:48:03 CEST, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 03.05.2014 15:46, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: [snip] Sounds like an issue

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 15:57, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 03.05.2014 15:50, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:52 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: [...] If you boot without those in fstab, then do the mdadm and lvm steps manually, do you then have it working ? If

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 18:40, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 03.05.2014 15:57, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 03.05.2014 15:50, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:52 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: [...] If you boot without those in fstab, then do the mdadm and lvm

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 18:51, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 03.05.2014 18:40, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 03.05.2014 15:57, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 03.05.2014 15:50, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:52 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: [...] If you boot

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