Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
maybe you should not just believe everything posted. Especially from a systemd fanboi. 2013/7/22 Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-19 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, what binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a system booting with init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd ? (I am building the initramsfs myself) You need to get your root filesystem and /usr

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2+mdraid5+LUKS+systemd (was Re: LVM2+mdraid+systemd)

2013-09-23 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sep 23, 2013 6:01 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Man... watching this discussion just makes me want to avoid systemd like the plague/all the more... Please don't top post. After I got LVM2, mdraid, and LUKS working with systemd, I just decided that, for me, neither LVM2

Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-05 Thread Joseph
On 02/05/14 20:06, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 05/02/2014 19:03, Joseph wrote: On 02/05/14 18:35, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 05/02/2014 18:32, Joseph wrote: Which program is responsible for mounting USB stick on XFCE4? After enable systemd flag in make.conf USE= the following packages were rebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-19 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2014-02-18 4:05 PM, Sebastian Beßler sebast...@darkmetatron.de wrote: First I thought that with systemd I have to use all the things shipped with systemd like journald (which I don't like because I think

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-20 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:36:15 +0800 Mark David Dumlao wrote: [...] So, please, don't take it as an insult. In fact you have done a very good job of patiently spelling out the advantages of systemd, to the point I'm no longer afraid of it taking over and devouring the linux world

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-networkd: simpler config for my network

2014-04-14 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Monday, 31 March 2014 16:14:44 MSK, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Aside from all the discussions around systemd, I simply gave the new systemd-networkd a try. It helped me to simplify my config for my main machine where I run KVM for virtualization and need a network bridge: I browsed

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/06/14 03:22, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: This effected stable tree of Gentoo as well, pulling undesired different layout into stable is something that should have been avoided. It is about time we split the profiles, systemd is not option for people who runs openrc. Indeed, I support the idea

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 01 August 2014 10:00:40 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: ... just for completeness, systemd actually requires /etc/mtab as a link to /proc/self/mounts, so don't be surprised if software in the future in Linux just assumes that. Well, that seems to imply that you can't run a systemd chroot

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-09-20, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: The only Linux systems where I care about boot time are embedded systems which are never going to have the resources needed to run systemd. You are mistaken. No, I am not. I've helped a friend debug problems on a couple devices

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

2015-01-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Marc Stürmer m...@marc-stuermer.de wrote: Zitat von Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com: Lennart claims that the embedded world loves systemd. I suspect that, as in other corners of the Linux world, there are lovers and haters of systemd. Embedded systems also quite

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 21:49:54 +0100, lee wrote: I wonder if the OP is using systemd and trying to read the journal files? Nooo, I hate systemd ... What good are log files you can't read? You can't read syslog-ng log files without some reading software, usually a combination of cat

[gentoo-user] openrc-systemd command comparison

2015-03-16 Thread Daniel Frey
Hey all, I've now converted two systems to systemd and so far haven't had too much issues with systemd itself, other than me constantly forgetting commands. Is there a nice table or chart somewhere that lists openrc commands with equivalent systemd commands? That would really help me from

Re: [gentoo-user] OK, so not everything works properly with systemd

2015-03-21 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com wrote: I also noticed this in the USE flags for systemd: - - sysv-utils : Install sysvinit compatibility symlinks and manpages for init, telinit, halt, poweroff, reboot, runlevel, and shutdown Should I enable

[gentoo-user] Safe systemd "reload" command

2016-06-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
I'm planning on adding USE=cron to mail-filter/spamassassin to perform nightly updates. I have a script that works for OpenRC, https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/SpamAssassin#Daily_updates but I've commented where I would like to have something similar for systemd users. Anybody know how to do

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Jc García
2016-02-09 11:31 GMT-06:00 James <wirel...@tampabay.rr.com>: > emerge -uDvtp @world > shows just a few updates needed but nothing pulling in systemd. What I'm > missing is why the "-systemd" setting in make.conf did not overrule > these missteps? Is there wa

Re: [gentoo-user] UEFI booting

2016-08-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 10:43:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I'd still like to know where the directory /usr/lib64/systemd/boot/efi > came from though. Surely it's from systemd-boot, it is installed by systemd here. What does qfile tell you? $ qfile /usr/lib/systemd/boot/efi -- Neil Bo

Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

2017-09-12 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:28:40 -0400 schrieb Mike Gilbert <flop...@gentoo.org>: > I would advise against this INSTALL_MASK setting. It is quite likely > to break things (like sys-fs/udev). No, it's not. I'd consider it a bug if systemd is not installed and another package that do

[gentoo-user] Why do systemd scripts get installed with USE="-systemd"?

2017-11-12 Thread Akater
It looks like systemd scripts often (always?) get installed, regardless of USE flag settings. Why would they? Is this a policy? E.g., in cat /usr/portage/net-p2p/transmission/transmission-2.92-r2.ebuild | grep systemd_ systemd_dounit daemon/transmission-daemon.service

[gentoo-user] Re: Expect a ~15% average slowdown if you use an Intel processor

2018-01-04 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 04/01/18 23:39, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 04/01/18 18:18, Rich Freeman wrote: For variant 1 the only known vulnerability is BPF which probably next to nobody uses I had to enable various BPF settings in the kernel because systemd wouldn't shut up about it. It prints warning messages

[gentoo-user] Re: A systemd-only Gentoo system

2012-02-21 Thread James
Canek Peláez Valdés caneko at gmail.com writes: But if you are interested in systemd, I think you should try it first in simple setups, and certainly as provided by the Gentoo devs. I'll keep an eye on systemd and keep reading up on it. I like what I read so maybe I'll give it a test drive

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-18 Thread Walter Dnes
For more information on why this has been done, see the following URL: http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken s/separate-usr/systemd and udev/ Too bad I'm not a developer. If udev and systemd become mandatory on Gentoo, I'll seriously consider LFS (Linux From

[gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3

2012-07-20 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Does anyone use systemd on gentoo, with gnome3? Would someone share a tarball of /etc/systemd/system with me (off-list) so I could figure out what services and stuff are needed? Tried to follow the wiki-pages, but somehow after logging into gdm the session hangs ... Thanks, Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:42 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: [snip] Great to hear, thanks so far. Looking forward to his reply Stefan, do you use systemd? David told me that he could only check the bug on monday, so I did a little research on the weekend. I installed Gentoo

[gentoo-user] systemd question

2012-09-25 Thread walt
I just installed and booted with systemd and most services are working normally, except syslog.service and remote-fs.service. Both of those failed on bootup with a No such file or directory error. I can't figure out how to make systemd tell me which files it can't find. Any ideas?

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
) (systemd ? sys-auth/pambase[systemd]) (!systemd ? sys-auth/pambase[consolekit]) sys-libs/pam-1.1.6 (sys-auth/pambase) x11-misc/lightdm-1.4.0 (=sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r2) diffing polkit 104 and 107 ebuilds shows some changes in the systemd related USE

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd and static network

2013-07-25 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Thursday 25 July 2013 17:23:56 I wrote: Systemd will not read /etc/conf.d/net like /etc/init.d/net.* scripts do. You need some service that will prepare the network. I personally prefer netctl, it is KISS enough. It was me who asked the devs to add it to the tree :) I tried NM too, it does

[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 28/07/13 11:22, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Basically, systemd is now a first class citizen in Gentoo (on par with OpenRC) This is great. Thanks to everyone involved! Does someone know whether a KDE system can work reliably with systemd, or there still issues?

Re: [gentoo-user] [Preliminary report] Gnome-3.8 update works with openrc :)

2013-07-30 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 30/07/13 04:13, Mark David Dumlao wrote: walt, are you using pam_systemd? I have a hunch that systemd-logind should still work. nope, logind no longer works with anything else than systemd since 205 we have given up on logind+openrc, that's why gnome also now pulls in systemd at portage

[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-31 Thread walt
On 07/31/2013 11:09 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: There's an idea floating around that openrc could use systemd unit files but it's still just an idea. I must have crossed the line into grumpy-old-man-hood. That idea is insane. Someone is willing to re-write udev to use Lennart's config files

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-19 Thread thegeezer
On 08/19/2013 10:58 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, what binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a system booting with init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd ? (I am building the initramsfs myself) Thanks for some hints, Helmut my 2c would be to autobuild one using genkernel

[gentoo-user] Re: trouble downgrading systemd and virtual/udev

2013-09-25 Thread walt
On 09/25/2013 03:24 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I want to downgrade systemd from 207-r2 to 204 (highest stable). I currently have virtual/udev-206-r2 installed, which prevents systemd-204. OK. So I need to downgrade virtual/udev to 200. I thought emerge -1 =virtual/udev-200 =sys

[gentoo-user] aiccu and systemd

2013-11-22 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Does anyone of you successfully use aiccu in these days, especially on systemd-based systems? I miss the functionality of having my very own IPv6-adresses on my thinkpad when I roam, for accessing ressources at home etc. But aiccu doesn't work for me anymore for months, I think. No gentoo-bug

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd as drop-in replacement for udev?

2013-12-05 Thread Michael Hampicke
Just remove init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd from your kernel command line, and you can boot your old openrc installation (if you did un unmerge it) That should mean: ..if you did not unmerge it. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] going from systemd to udev

2014-02-04 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Feb 04 2014, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 02/04/2014 01:58 PM, Joseph wrote: Is it possible to go from systemd to udev? I don't like the way systemd works. I have a problem with mounting USB sick (it mounts as root:root) and I can not even change the permission. I am receiving

Re: [gentoo-user] going from systemd to udev

2014-02-06 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Tuesday 04 February 2014 18:38:27 Joseph wrote: I don't have pmount installed, and I'm not sure what XFCE4 is using. How to find out? You said that you have systemd installed, but did you actually *boot* systemd as init (PID 1)?

[gentoo-user] Can't Get Systemd to Work

2014-05-16 Thread Hunter Jozwiak
Hi all. I am having issues with Systemd as well. I added to the GRUB2 configuration file the needed command line to get Systemd to start, but for whatever reason, the kernel is adamant that I must use OrenRC. I recompiled with Genkernel-next a new kernel and initramfs, and that, for whatever

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 05 June 2014 13:58:45 Mick wrote: .., I've keyworded sys-power/upower-0.99.0 for now on one machine and it seems to work fine, without imposing systemd at the moment. :-) I bet you have quite a lot of systemd components lurking in the background though, ready to take over

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread Adam Carter
One little corner case; if you're running systemd 216 and syslog-ng 3.6, you need to add ForwardToSyslog=yes to /etc/systemd/journald.conf. With systemd 215 and earlier, messages are forwarded to syslog by default, and syslog-ng 3.6 is journald aware.

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc-systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Daniel Frey
On 04/01/2015 02:21 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: Nice! Apart from the zap thing that Canek has already covered, I think it could be useful. Could you add a link to it to the main systemd page. I've added it to the See Also section at the end of the Systemd page. I didn't know where else to put

[gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior

2015-08-02 Thread Martin Vaeth
walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, journalctl tells me that systemd-networkd is segfaulting repeatedly during boot. systemd has become very picky on cflags; e.g. -DNDEBUG and friends cause strange behaviour and segfaults.

[gentoo-user] systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior

2015-08-02 Thread walt
I've been running systemd for a long time without needing to enable the dhcpcd service at boot time. Starting with systemd-224 that is no longer true. Today I had to enable dhcpcd.service specifically or the network interface didn't get an ip address during boot. Seems like this might

Re: [gentoo-user] systemD?

2017-08-30 Thread Mick
On Wednesday, 30 August 2017 22:18:40 BST Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 4:39 PM, <mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com> wrote: > > are some of the available kernels not systemd, > > Michael's answer was correct, but I just wanted to note that the > kerne

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/12/17 01:16, Marc Joliet wrote: > [ Just to be clear: autofs is a Linux kernel feature, systemd just exposes it > in an easy to use way. That is, BTW, a theme with systemd. ] Likewise, cgroups. I believe Lennart is regularly "blamed" for this, but it's been in the kernel

[gentoo-user] Re: Using both Gnome and KDE Plasma?

2018-01-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 25/01/18 04:34, Dale wrote: This is what I would do.  I would make sure emerge -uDNp world comes back clean, no remerges or updates.  Change profile to generic desktop. There's no "desktop/systemd" profile. I'm on systemd. If I switch to the "systemd" profile

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

2021-02-04 Thread Matt Connell (Gmail)
On Fri, 2021-02-05 at 01:06 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > > The plex-server ebuild appears to require systemd, but it isn't listed > > as a dependency. Am I missing something? > > > Apparently so. The presence of the command systemd_newunit in the .ebuild > >

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 17 April 2022 12:13:06 -00 Neil Bothwick wrote: --->8 > It looks like this is cause my using mixed keywords, amd64 for udev and > ~amd64 for systemd-boot/utils. Does keywording udev-250 resolve the > blocks? Yes, after keywording several others, thus: ~sys-apps/systemd-tm

Re: [gentoo-user] *draft* for setting up network bridge with systemd (for qemu/kvm)

2013-01-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
systemd had an overwhelmingly majority of comments positive to systemd, and just a handful of negative comments: http://lwn.net/Articles/534210/#Comments But that is in LWN; Gentoo is way behind, I believe. Gentoo is not behind, it provides you the option of using systemd. However openrc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: must I mask gnome-3.8 until I am running systemd

2013-09-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:27 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Thu, Sep 05 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:19 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/05/2013 05:43 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: [I will be going to systemd since it is aparently required for gnome-3.8. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
again, I respect ones right to use whatever one wants, but I ask to respect mine as well. That's why I propose a separate systemd profile for those willing to use it. Then write. Just be aware that to write a systemd profile, you need to use systemd. Or to create a non-systemd profile

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
- that it should be the people who *don't* want systemd doing all of the work - was backwards, and that was what I wanted to point out. I still believe that a non-systemd profile should be done by the people not wanting to use systemd. But since I now support the systemd profile (since it's trivial

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd reaches target Emergency Mode every boot

2013-01-28 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 28.01.2013 20:34, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: My gdm USE-flags are: [ebuild R ~] gnome-base/gdm-3.6.2 USE=audit fallback gnome-shell introspection ipv6 ldap plymouth systemd tcpd -accessibility -consolekit

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-20 Thread Helmut Jarausch
binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a system booting with init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd ? (I am building the initramsfs myself) You need to get your root filesystem and /usr mounted. Just keep that goal in mind and start adding files to support it. There doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS

2013-09-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: Hey list after the many discussions here about systemd I had a flash of objectivity (“Who cares if people rant about Lennart, the concept seems sound and I don’t care about separate /usr”). So I wanted to try systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: must I mask gnome-3.8 until I am running systemd

2013-09-06 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Sep 05 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:19 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/05/2013 05:43 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: [I will be going to systemd since it is aparently required for gnome-3.8. I first want to try systemd on a test system so am building

Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-05 Thread Joseph
On 02/05/14 13:06, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: [ humongous snip ] 4. Using systemd is more than just emerging it; you need to change your init= line in grub-legacy or GRUB2 and reboot. The contents of /proc/1/comm is systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-18 1:54 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I'm curious as to the extent of these programs, and to what extent they *truly* require systemd. I don't understand what you mean by the extent

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/systemd-239-r2 does not install completely

2018-11-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 10:14:01 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > >> upgrading from sys-apps/systemd-236-r5 to 239-r2 > >> > >> the emerge runs through and warns me that it overwrites files ... > >> so it merges only partially ... > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] switch from gnome/systemd to xfce/openrc borked my system

2019-08-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:42 AM Raffaele Belardi wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > Next time you do something like this, keep in mind that Gnome and xfce > > can co-exist on the same system, and so can openrc and systemd. > > Good point, I did not know, in particula

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-09 Thread Keith Dart
Re 20121109171149.1d8a3e18@dartworks.biz20121109171149.1d8a3e18@dartworks.biz509D9C62.9040909@gmail.com509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.sek7k1hn$ce6$1...@ger.gmane.org, Canek Peláez Valdés said: Just a word of advice: if you are a normal laptop user, systemd has replaced most of the functionality

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and don't want is forced upon you. If it is also based on lies, hate is a valid reaction. A lot of people don't need nor want pulseaudio or systemd. Now it is forced

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread András Csányi
On 22 July 2013 21:57, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote: Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, and purge CK from your system; I did

[gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 23/07/13 08:43, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally intended. not possible, logind since systemd = 205 requires systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] how to tell you are using systemd?

2013-07-31 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Wang Xuerui idontknw.w...@gmail.com wrote: 在 2013-8-1 上午10:26, cov...@ccs.covici.com写道: Can a shell script tell if systemd is the init? I have a couple of places where it would be nice to know this. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Check /proc/1

[gentoo-user] installing systemd

2013-08-05 Thread gottlieb
(I brought an old system upto the state of my real one and am trying to follow the wiki for converting to systemd). I am upto the part where the wiki says emerge --ask systemd I believe the wiki left out unmerging or something since the emerge gives conflicts (as expected). What must I

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-06 Thread gottlieb
=systemd? I am converting an old ~amd64 machine to systemd for practice so that I can convert my main laptop (also ~amd64) to systemd. The purpose of the conversions is to run gnome-3.8 and higher. I have other machines running stable. Will I need to convert them to systemd when gnome-3.8 becomes

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-20 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 08/19/2013 04:55:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, what binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a system booting with init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd ? (I am building the initramsfs

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble emerging (*not* running) systemd on stable amd64

2013-12-06 Thread gottlieb
On Fri, Dec 06 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 8:45 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I hadn't synced one of my stable boxes for a while and tried today. This brings in gnome-3.8 and with it systemd. I realize I will need to *run* systemd to go to gnome-3.10. Indeed I do

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble emerging (*not* running) systemd on stable amd64

2013-12-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Dec 6, 2013 9:20 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Fri, Dec 06 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 8:45 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I hadn't synced one of my stable boxes for a while and tried today. This brings in gnome-3.8 and with it systemd. I realize I will need

[gentoo-user] Re: Wireless fixed (network-manager but NO dhcpcd)

2013-12-19 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Dec 19 2013, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:07:16 -0500, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Switched to systemd and all was well for weeks. Then failure occurred (non-global ctrl_ifname). Tried network-manager (NM) with no success. New. Canek told me off-list that, when using

Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-05 Thread Joseph
On 02/05/14 14:02, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/05/14 13:06, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: [ humongous snip ] 4. Using systemd is more than just emerging

[gentoo-user] systemd and USE=static

2014-02-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
I thought I'd have another look at systemd, so switched profiles, made sure I had all the kernel options needed and then did an emerge -uN world. It seems the systemd profile masks the static and static-libs USE flags, which are needed by crytsetup and lvm for my initramfs, which mounts / from

Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:41:22 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Run make menuconfig Press / Type FHANDLE Then you can see it is enabled by switching on systemd support in the Gentoo specific options. I did say that I know how to search - that is how I was able to find it. But... I

[gentoo-user] Re: sys-power/upower-pm-utils

2014-06-03 Thread »Q«
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:30:11 + J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Sounds like Samuli is being a pr*ck by forcing systemd on everyone now. AIUI from https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-992290.html, no one is maintaining systemd-independent power management anywhere upstream any more

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 17.09.2014 um 21:02 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: [snip] Now you use this to advertise for systemd? Systemd fanbois are becoming more and more desperate. So, systemd is used (or it has been announced

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 07:19:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Is systemd starting to encompass too much? I think so, but who cares? If we want an init manager that reads systemd-like files but doesn't do anything else (hostnamectl, logging, udev, etc.), I guess we'll have to make one

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng-3.6.1 nearly no log anymore

2014-11-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/14/2014 12:46 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/11/2014 18:18, Helmut Jarausch wrote: The only unusual message is Systemd is not detected as the running init system; which is true since I still use openrc (but with systemd installed, as well) Could

Re: [gentoo-user] Does systemd work with mdadm?

2014-11-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com wrote: So far, it's better than openrc in that there's a bug shutting down an imsm raid that's still not been addressed. It causes the array to do a rebuild next time it starts up and from my testing systemd doesn't have

Re: [gentoo-user] Custom ebuilds for CoreOS

2014-12-02 Thread Saifi Khan
On Mon, 1 Dec 2014, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 1 Dec 2014 20:46:54 + (UTC), James wrote: Given that CoreOS have sponsored some systemd development (systemd-networkd), I think it is reasonable to assume they plan to stick with systemd for the foreseeable future. CoreOS a gentoo derived

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: minimal installation CD iso is where?,

2015-08-06 Thread Jc García
2015-08-06 10:34 GMT-06:00 James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com: I think the Handbook is getting better and better. However the systemd-openrc choice is something that needs to be explained early in the handbook from a neutral prospective. Let's face it, lots of folks become interested in Gentoo

[gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-08-30 Thread covici
Hi. On my latest update of world, I have a few blockers which I am unable to figure out how to solve -- I will put the related output below with inserted comments. I am using unstable gentooand I have masked ncurses-6 for the time being. Portage also wants to downgrade my systemd from 221(0/2

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-09-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:55 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Got it, finally :-) > > fail2ban wants sys-apps/systemd[python(-)], and systemd-219_p112 is the > highest version with an explicit python USE flag. All later versions do > not have the flag at

[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread James
Jc García gmail.com> writes: > >> What I'm > >> missing is why the "-systemd" setting in make.conf did not overrule > >> these missteps? Is there way to set something, anything anywhere > >> what no packages with require systemd can be install

Re: [gentoo-user] Gummiboot -> efibootmgr

2016-08-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
rsuade someone to backport the fix from systemd or switch bootloaders. I've no idea how tightly bootctl (as gummibot is now called after its assimilation in the the systemd collective) is bound to systemd. It may well be feasible to create an ebuild that builds bootctl from the systemd sources w

Re: [gentoo-user] GPT partitions

2017-01-14 Thread Bicno
> The names are suggestive enough, but I have no clue about what does it > mean to use 8304 instead of just plain 8300 for /. The reason is that with efi bootloader the partitions with that GUID in the GPT table are automatically mounted by systemd-gpt-auto-generator. Here some links:

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

2016-12-20 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 05:25:20AM +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote > sys-apps/systemd:0= required by (sys-apps/dbus-1.10.12:0/0::gentoo, > ebuild scheduled for merge) > > > For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following > section of th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd questions: hdparm unit file, OpenRC packages

2017-04-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:45:59 +0200, Kai Krakow wrote: > All those services are well integrated with each other and suitable for > most stuff. Tho, systemd-networkd is not explicitly developed as a > desktop daemon currently, systemd folks still tend to recommend > NetworkManage

Re: [gentoo-user] systemD?

2017-08-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 7:28 PM, Heiko Baums <li...@baums-on-web.de> wrote: > Am Wed, 30 Aug 2017 23:27:12 +0100 > schrieb Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com>: > >> BTW, if you run ps axf and come across '/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd >> --daemon' don't panic.

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do systemd scripts get installed with USE="-systemd"?

2017-11-12 Thread Kai Peter
On 2017-11-12 12:47, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 10:55:04 +, Akater wrote: It looks like systemd scripts often (always?) get installed, regardless of USE flag settings. Because they are tiny so impact of them is negligible. On the other hand, if you don't have them

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/systemd-239-r2 does not install completely

2018-11-18 Thread YUE Daian
On 2018-11-19 08:14, "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote: > upgrading from sys-apps/systemd-236-r5 to 239-r2 > > the emerge runs through and warns me that it overwrites files ... so it > merges only partially ... > > after that I see: > > # systemctl --version > syst

Re: [gentoo-user] empty cdrom drive is busy or mounted

2019-08-21 Thread Adam Carter
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 5:48 AM james wrote: > On 8/16/19 12:44 PM, Jack wrote: > > ps auxf | grep systemd > > This is new turf for me. Upon issuing this command string I get:: > > # ps auxf | grep systemd > root 24947 0.0 0.0 13964 996 pt

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 11:41:23 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I've been using bootctl from sys-boot/systemd-boot for several years, > with some success, but I'm stuck after today's --sync. > > First I was told I had to keyword sys-apps/systemd-utils, so I did > that, but now I ge

[gentoo-user] Re: systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-17 Thread Martin Vaeth
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 16:42:35 -00 Martin Vaeth wrote: >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >> > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 14:54:50 -00 Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> Can't you just fix your USE flags with systemd-utils? Why revert? >> > >

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/systemd-239-r2 does not install completely

2018-11-19 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 19.11.18 um 09:41 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 08:14:38 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > >> upgrading from sys-apps/systemd-236-r5 to 239-r2 >> >> the emerge runs through and warns me that it overwrites files ... >> so it merges only parti

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd question

2012-09-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 2:24 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: I just installed and booted with systemd and most services are working normally, except syslog.service and remote-fs.service. Both of those failed on bootup with a No such file or directory error. I can't figure out how to make

Re: [gentoo-user] NetworkManager problem after migrating to systemd

2012-10-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:42 PM, João Matos jaon...@gmail.com wrote: I found the solution a few hours ago here http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Systemd#PAM_support:_su.2C_sudo.2C_screen... . Now everything is fine :) About the packages you mentioned, you've ran 'equery uses pambase polkit

Re: [gentoo-user] *draft* for setting up network bridge with systemd (for qemu/kvm)

2013-01-29 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: I would not bet on that ;) too much resistance. However it is certainly getting better and better: the LWN article on The Biggest Myths about systemd had an overwhelmingly majority of comments positive to systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
in via portage if there are any changes planned or in the pipeline. If it is possible to correct things now I'd be happy to do so while I am online and my system is up and running ;-) Do you prefer a bug report? For later reference? Right now I get: # emerge -1 systemd Calculating dependencies

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
reference? Right now I get: # emerge -1 systemd Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] sys-apps/systemd-198-r5 [198-r2] USE=gudev%* introspection%* -doc% [blocks B ] sys-fs/udev (sys-fs/udev is blocking sys-apps/systemd-198-r5) # emerge -1 udev Calculating dependencies

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-24 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
: On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally intended. not possible, logind since systemd = 205 requires systemd and won't work on openrc, upstart

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