[gentoo-user] non-root user switch gcc version ?

2011-02-24 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, many distributions have something like a 'switch' command such that an ordinary user can switch the version of his/her default gcc compiler. Is there something similar in GenToo? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut.

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 24.02.2011 01:48, schrieb Alex Schuster: Looks like normal behaviour to me. @system should be a small set, but when some packages in @system have kde USE flags, they will pull in KDE stuff. One can make an easy test to see how that works: USE=-kde emerge -e @system -vp Total: 181 packages

Re: [gentoo-user] non-root user switch gcc version ?

2011-02-24 Thread Gregory Shearman
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: Hi, many distributions have something like a 'switch' command such that an ordinary user can switch the version of his/her default gcc compiler. Is there something similar in GenToo? Many thanks for a hint, $ gcc-config -h -- Regards, Gregory.

Re: [gentoo-user] non-root user switch gcc version ?

2011-02-24 Thread Gregory Shearman
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: Hi, many distributions have something like a 'switch' command such that an ordinary user can switch the version of his/her default gcc compiler. Is there something similar in GenToo? Many thanks for a hint, Forgive previous post. Didn't read it properly.

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Dale
Sebastian Beßler wrote: One can make an easy test to see how that works: USE=-kde emerge -e @system -vp Total: 181 packages emerge -e @system -v Total: 436 packages, The kde-useflag pulls in a waste of packages In my system-set are 50 packages: emerge @system -vp Total: 50 packages

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 09:57:00AM -0600, Dale wrote I tried a pretend emerge of khelpcenter. I had to unmask dbus and allow a bunch of use flags before it would run. Here's what I ended up with... USE=accessibility kde dbus qt3support ssl handbook exceptions emerge -pv

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 24.02.2011 13:32, schrieb Dale: My world file is fine. I went through it a while back and it is fairly small. It's the system set that is larger than normal. Your system set has 50 entries, that seems to be absolutly normal. The high count of entries in emerge -e @system comes from

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Dale
Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 24.02.2011 13:32, schrieb Dale: My world file is fine. I went through it a while back and it is fairly small. It's the system set that is larger than normal. Your system set has 50 entries, that seems to be absolutly normal. The high count of entries in emerge -e

Re: [gentoo-user] ssh problem

2011-02-24 Thread dhk
On 02/23/2011 03:42 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday 22 February 2011 14:51:31 Mick wrote: On 22 February 2011 14:19, dhk...@optonline.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Mick There was a change in the default ssh encryption algorithm. You may want to check if that is

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 24.02.2011 14:03, schrieb Dale: If I do this: USE=-* emerge -pv system I get this: Total: 50 packages (50 reinstalls) What a difference USE flags makes huh? You forgot to add the e, without it you reinstall only the 50 packages in @system, because the dependencies are all there at

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Elaine C. Sharpe
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 24.02.2011 13:32, schrieb Dale: My world file is fine. I went through it a while back and it is fairly small. It's the system set that is larger than normal. Your system set has 50 entries, that seems to be absolutly normal. The

Re: [gentoo-user] ssh problem

2011-02-24 Thread Mick
On 24 February 2011 13:17, dhk dhk...@optonline.net wrote: On 02/23/2011 03:42 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday 22 February 2011 14:51:31 Mick wrote: On 22 February 2011 14:19,  dhk...@optonline.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Mick There was a change in the default ssh

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Dale
Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 24.02.2011 14:03, schrieb Dale: If I do this: USE=-* emerge -pv system I get this: Total: 50 packages (50 reinstalls) What a difference USE flags makes huh? You forgot to add the e, without it you reinstall only the 50 packages in @system, because the

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Dale
Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: I use fluxbox and sometimes wmaker. Probably a lot of people are put off by the default configs, but both offer extremely powerful and versatile customization tools. Add your fave terminal emulator (I recommend terminator for it's killer feature set) and conky for system

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:03:06 -0600, Dale wrote: I just wonder if the devs have noticed how much this has grown when packages with X flags are included in the system set?. Would Gnome do the same? What about other GUI's? What does it matter? They are only dependencies of @system, but they

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:03:06 -0600, Dale wrote: I just wonder if the devs have noticed how much this has grown when packages with X flags are included in the system set?. Would Gnome do the same? What about other GUI's? What does it matter? They are only

[gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS

2011-02-24 Thread walt
On 02/23/2011 02:51 PM, Mick wrote: On Wednesday 23 February 2011 22:45:18 Mick wrote: On Wednesday 23 February 2011 18:54:12 walt wrote: On 02/23/2011 08:28 AM, Mick wrote: Hi All, I noticed that since I installed xorg-server-1.9.4 my screen will not go into standby anymore ... According

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:21:54 -0600, Dale wrote: I was always under the impression that @system was supposed to be a limited set of packages to build, including dependencies. For me, if I have a issue, I usually start with emerge -e system to see if it helps. Since there is some KDE stuff

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS

2011-02-24 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Wednesday 23 February 2011 19:21:34 Dale wrote: When I upgraded to KDE4, I had to start using xset to handle turning my monitor off. I put it in the startup section and it seems to work OK. This is strange - I added Option DPMS on under the Monitor section in

[gentoo-user] howto recover gcc from another system

2011-02-24 Thread James
Hello, Well running a routine --depclean somehow I lost the only copy of gcc on the system CFLAGS=-march=k8 -msse3 -O2 -pipe CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} I have a a similar system set like this: CFLAGS=-march=k8 -O2 -pipe CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} Since

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] etho app rating 10/100 etc in megabytes

2011-02-24 Thread Harry Putnam
James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com writes: Harry Putnam reader at newsguy.com writes: But still, when I'm trying to measure how much data is moving emerge bwmon, It measures across the ethernet ports, so adjust your test, according to what you want to measure, crossing the ethernet port

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 24.02.2011 16:21, schrieb Dale: I was always under the impression that @system was supposed to be a limited set of packages to build, including dependencies. For me, if I have a issue, I usually start with emerge -e system to see if it helps. Since there is some KDE stuff in there, that

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:21:54 -0600, Dale wrote: I was always under the impression that @system was supposed to be a limited set of packages to build, including dependencies. For me, if I have a issue, I usually start with emerge -e system to see if it helps. Since

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:03:06 -0600, Dale wrote: I just wonder if the devs have noticed how much this has grown when packages with X flags are included in the system set?.  Would Gnome do the same?  What

Re: [gentoo-user] howto recover gcc from another system

2011-02-24 Thread Dale
James wrote: Hello, Well running a routine --depclean somehow I lost the only copy of gcc on the system CFLAGS=-march=k8 -msse3 -O2 -pipe CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} I have a a similar system set like this: CFLAGS=-march=k8 -O2 -pipe CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP   I posted something a couple of years ago about using -java in make.conf because I found with +java I got almost twice as many packages in @system. (Except it wasn't @system at the time) I started putting java

Re: [gentoo-user] ssh problem

2011-02-24 Thread dhk
On 02/24/2011 08:53 AM, Mick wrote: On 24 February 2011 13:17, dhk dhk...@optonline.net wrote: On 02/23/2011 03:42 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday 22 February 2011 14:51:31 Mick wrote: On 22 February 2011 14:19, dhk...@optonline.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] howto recover gcc from another system

2011-02-24 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 24.02.2011 17:54, schrieb James: Hello, Well running a routine --depclean somehow I lost the only copy of gcc on the system [...] Since there is no gcc-bin to emerge (ha ha) I guess I'll have to copy over the binary of orsys-devel/gcc-4.4.4-r2 from another system. GUIDANCE

[gentoo-user] seq24 on AMD64

2011-02-24 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, does anyone have seq24 successfully running on an AMD64 system? Is there any othe loop sequencer out there, which I could try? Thank you very much in advance! Best regards, mcc

[gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system

2011-02-24 Thread james
Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes: I lost the only copy of gcc on the system I would be glad to email you the binary from mine if it would help. Dale, I have several system to copy from (thanks anyway). Is that all I have to do, just copy over the binary? then rebuild gcc via the

[gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system

2011-02-24 Thread James
Florian Philipp lists at binarywings.net writes: This should get you going: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/168951?do=post_view_threaded#168951 ok, after reading I tried this: emerge --usepkg gcc which did not work. Can you be more specific on the syntax? It looks

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:34:09 -0600, Dale wrote: Actually, it is, because you told it to be. To me, KDE is not a system package, because I run different USE flags to you. Gentoo gave you the gun but you pointed it at your foot :) I didn't tell portage to include KDE, qt, and a boatload of

[gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system

2011-02-24 Thread james
Florian Philipp lists at binarywings.net writes: Since there is no gcc-bin to emerge (ha ha) I guess I'll have to copy over the binary of orsys-devel/gcc-4.4.4-r2 from another system. GUIDANCE on that is most welcome. [...] OK, if this the first step, then I'm confused. /usr/bin has

Re: [gentoo-user] howto recover gcc from another system

2011-02-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:54:36 + (UTC), James wrote: Since there is no gcc-bin to emerge (ha ha) I guess I'll have to copy over the binary of orsys-devel/gcc-4.4.4-r2 from another system. GUIDANCE on that is most welcome. quickpkg gcc on the other system, copy the gcc-*.tbz2 package from

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system

2011-02-24 Thread Dale
james wrote: Dalerdalek1967at gmail.com writes: I lost the only copy of gcc on the system I would be glad to email you the binary from mine if it would help. Dale, I have several system to copy from (thanks anyway). Is that all I have to do, just copy over the

[gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system

2011-02-24 Thread James
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: GUIDANCE on that is most welcome. quickpkg gcc on the other system, copy the gcc-*.tbz2 package from $PKGDIR on that to the broken system, OK I ran 'quickpkg gcc' got this: ls /usr/portage/packages/sys-devel gcc-4.1.2.tbz2

Re: [gentoo-user] ssh problem

2011-02-24 Thread dhk
On 02/24/2011 03:01 PM, Matthew Marlowe wrote: On Thursday, February 24, 2011 10:09:22 am dhk wrote: I still haven't gotten this to work. Am I the only one using this? The ssh -i .ssh/id_dsa.pub host didn't work. I get a message Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer with or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS

2011-02-24 Thread Mick
On Thursday 24 February 2011 16:23:31 Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Wednesday 23 February 2011 19:21:34 Dale wrote: When I upgraded to KDE4, I had to start using xset to handle turning my monitor off. I put it in the startup section and it seems to work OK. This is strange - I added

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS

2011-02-24 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Thursday 24 February 2011 16:23:31 Dale wrote: I think there is a thread where I asked the same thing. When I first upgraded to KDE4, my monitor would not turn off unless I turned it off myself. I set up a script that runs when I login to cut off the monitor. I have

Re: [gentoo-user] non-root user switch gcc version ?

2011-02-24 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, many distributions have something like a 'switch' command such that an ordinary user can switch the version of his/her default gcc compiler. Is there something similar in GenToo? Many thanks for a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system

2011-02-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:29:50 + (UTC), James wrote: quickpkg gcc on the other system, copy the gcc-*.tbz2 package from $PKGDIR on that to the broken system, OK I ran 'quickpkg gcc' got this: ls /usr/portage/packages/sys-devel gcc-4.1.2.tbz2 gcc-4.1.2.tbz2.28680 gcc-4.3.4.tbz2

Re: [gentoo-user] ssh problem

2011-02-24 Thread Mick
On Thursday 24 February 2011 18:09:22 dhk wrote: On 02/24/2011 08:53 AM, Mick wrote: Have you tried using ssh user@host to login with? At first all I did was an update: emerge -uDN world . They when it didn't work I removed all public and private keys and restarted sshd. That didn't

Re: [gentoo-user] ssh problem

2011-02-24 Thread Mick
On Thursday 24 February 2011 21:51:56 dhk wrote: Thanks, but I've tried that. ssh'ing to the hostname and loopback address work. However, when I go out to the WAN it doesn't. So I can't ssh user@123.123.123.123 even though I have port 22 open on the switch for my ip. Just to state the

[gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system

2011-02-24 Thread James
James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: copy the gcc-*.tbz2 package from $PKGDIR on that to the broken system, then emerge -1k gcc. emergeing gcc now (thanks Neil!) One last question: so I've learned the hard way of the value of quickpkg. Besides gcc, what is a good list of critical

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system

2011-02-24 Thread Dale
James wrote: Jameswirelessat tampabay.rr.com writes: copy the gcc-*.tbz2 package from $PKGDIR on that to the broken system, then emerge -1k gcc. emergeing gcc now (thanks Neil!) One last question: so I've learned the hard way of the value of quickpkg. Besides

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-24 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:34:09AM -0600, Dale wrote I didn't tell portage to include KDE, qt, and a boatload of other stuff to be part of @system. Did I enable the kde USE flag, yea. That should be part of the world stuff not the system stuff. If I disable kde, qt and all the others

Re: [gentoo-user] ssh problem

2011-02-24 Thread dhk
On 02/24/2011 06:30 PM, Mick wrote: On Thursday 24 February 2011 21:51:56 dhk wrote: Thanks, but I've tried that. ssh'ing to the hostname and loopback address work. However, when I go out to the WAN it doesn't. So I can't ssh user@123.123.123.123 even though I have port 22 open on the

[gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system

2011-02-24 Thread James
Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes: Besides gcc, what is a good list of critical software to use guickpkg as to keep backup binaries? FEATURES=buildpkg sandbox fixpackages parallel-fetch --keep-going I saw this (FEATURES=buildpkg) googling around. 1. What is a good list of software

[gentoo-user] Updating to gnome 2.32.x -- building totem fails.

2011-02-24 Thread walt
Sometimes I think I'm the only gnome fan in this wild jungle of kde users, pardon my paranoia. Anyway, I went through the same problem with totem on my ~x86 and ~amd64 machines a few months ago, and now I've just hit it again on my last amd64 (gentoo-stable) machine because gnome-2.32.x just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system

2011-02-24 Thread Dale
James wrote: Dalerdalek1967at gmail.com writes: Besides gcc, what is a good list of critical software to use guickpkg as to keep backup binaries? FEATURES=buildpkg sandbox fixpackages parallel-fetch --keep-going I saw this (FEATURES=buildpkg) googling around. 1.

Re: [gentoo-user] ssh problem

2011-02-24 Thread Stroller
On 25/2/2011, at 1:08am, dhk wrote: I don't have the nc comand. What package is it in? net-analyzer/netcat