Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
Hi Hemmann,,
on Wednesday, 2005-11-16 at 16:14:18, you wrote:
but xine does it right without the need of editing the conf, so in my humble
opinion, xine is better - I am lazy ;)
Depends on your keyboard. On a US keyboard, {}/[] are just fine, of
course on a German one it will be as unintuitive as the otherwise very
practical '?'/'/' default for searching in programs like vi, more/less
or mutt.
regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 16:51, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:14:18 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
mplayer also allows you to redefine all of these in its config file.
You don't have to worry about it being intuitive when you get to
choose the key bindings.
but xine does it right without the need of editing the conf, so in my
humble opinion, xine is better - I am lazy ;)
No, you just used xine first, so its controls appeared more intuitive
to you. If you'd got used to mplayer's controls first, you'd have the
same complaint about xine.
Very little about computer user interfaces is truly intuitive, it's just
a matter of what you are used to.
I have tried it - and the mplayer controlls suck. {} makes the film, slower,
faster, but not +/- 100% like xine, one klick, one doubling. No, it does +/-
some percent, and if you hold the key for the tenth of a second to long,
you'll never find back to normal speed.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 23:42:47 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
I have tried it - and the mplayer controlls suck. {} makes the film,
slower, faster, but not +/- 100% like xine, one klick, one doubling.
No, it does +/- some percent, and if you hold the key for the tenth of
a second to long, you'll never find back to normal speed.
[] change the speed by 10%, {} halve/double it. If you don't like those
keys, change them. Those are only defaults, not set in stone.
Backspace is the default key to revert to normal speed. I expect that if
you search the web, you'll find someone has posted a config file to use
the same keybindings as xine.
Here are the relevant settings from ~/.mplayer.conf, change them to
whatever you want.
RIGHT seek +10
LEFT seek -10
DOWN seek -60
UP seek +60
PGUP seek 600
PGDWN seek -600
[ speed_mult 0.9091 # scale playback speed
] speed_mult 1.1
{ speed_mult 0.5
} speed_mult 2.0
BS speed_set 1.0# reset speed to normal
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 5:35 am, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: gmplayer -mplayer itself does refuse to run. Oh, but if you know mplayer so well, maybe you can tell me, how to fast forward (2x, 4x) in (g)mplayer? I do not mean skip forward some seconds, I mean real fast forward? The only reason I use (g)mplayer is, that it sometimes is able to play vids, xine barfs on (and vice versa, so both are needed). mplayer refuses to run and gmplayer runs? what error do you get with mplayer? Also, mplayer's native GUI or gmplayer is very bad. You should rather use alternatives like kmplayer. I am a big fan of mplayer and the main reason behind it, is the interface it has. You can control everything you want with keyboard so never need a GUI. Abhay pgp5yUPrie237.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 09:37, abhay wrote: On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 5:35 am, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: gmplayer -mplayer itself does refuse to run. Oh, but if you know mplayer so well, maybe you can tell me, how to fast forward (2x, 4x) in (g)mplayer? I do not mean skip forward some seconds, I mean real fast forward? The only reason I use (g)mplayer is, that it sometimes is able to play vids, xine barfs on (and vice versa, so both are needed). mplayer refuses to run and gmplayer runs? what error do you get with mplayer? Also, mplayer's native GUI or gmplayer is very bad. You should rather use alternatives like kmplayer. I am a big fan of mplayer and the main reason behind it, is the interface it has. You can control everything you want with keyboard so never need a GUI. Abhay VDec: VO wird versucht, auf 512 x 384 (Bevorzugter Farbraum: Planar YV12) zu setzen. Konnte keinen passenden Farbraum finden - neuer Versuch mit '-vf scale'.. Öffne Videofilter: [scale] Der ausgewählte Videoausgabetreiber ist nicht kompatibel mit diesem Codec. FATAL: Konnte Videofilter (-vf) oder -ausgabetreiber (-vo) nicht initialisieren. alsa-uninit: pcm closed Beenden... (Dateiende erreicht.) gmplayer has no problems with the same file. Oh, and it is gmplayer, because that is, what opens, when I try to open it with right click and 'play with -- mplayer' ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 02:15, Nick Rout wrote:
Interesting, is this on all files, or just some?
Is it the same in gmplayer and mplayer?
gmplayer -mplayer itself does refuse to run.
Oh, but if you know mplayer so well, maybe you can tell me, how to fast
forward (2x, 4x) in (g)mplayer? I do not mean skip forward some seconds,
I mean real fast forward?
I have never tried it, so I read the man page just now, and searched on
speed. I pretty quickly dound this:
general control
- and -
Seek backward/forward 10 seconds.
up and down
Seek backward/forward 1 minute.
pgup and pgdown
Seek backward/forward 10 minutes.
[ and ]
Decreases/increases current playback speed by 10%.
{ and }
Halves/doubles current playback speed.
so looks like [ ] { and } should be tried.
thanks, but that is pretty un-intuitive.
xine uses arrow up/down for the speed... a combination where I do not need to
span my fingers over half the keyboard..
But mplayer also jumps forward with mouse wheel up, and backwards with mouse
wheel down... the opposite of what I would expect. If you read a book, you
read from top down.. so going downwards is forward. ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:05:28 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: thanks, but that is pretty un-intuitive. xine uses arrow up/down for the speed... a combination where I do not need to span my fingers over half the keyboard.. But mplayer also jumps forward with mouse wheel up, and backwards with mouse wheel down... the opposite of what I would expect. If you read a book, you read from top down.. so going downwards is forward. ;) mplayer also allows you to redefine all of these in its config file. You don't have to worry about it being intuitive when you get to choose the key bindings. -- Neil Bothwick Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 5:31 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: FATAL: Konnte Videofilter (-vf) oder -ausgabetreiber (-vo) nicht initialisieren. I could not make much out of that error message (still need to learn a lot of languages ;) ) but looks like a problem with your video output driver settings. Check in /etc/mplayer.conf and ~/.mplayer/gui.conf as to which vo drivers you are using in each of them. gui.conf has correct vo_driver configuration while mplayer.conf doesn't. Hope that helps. Abhay pgpmFyKKhd9v9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 13:55, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:05:28 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: thanks, but that is pretty un-intuitive. xine uses arrow up/down for the speed... a combination where I do not need to span my fingers over half the keyboard.. But mplayer also jumps forward with mouse wheel up, and backwards with mouse wheel down... the opposite of what I would expect. If you read a book, you read from top down.. so going downwards is forward. ;) mplayer also allows you to redefine all of these in its config file. You don't have to worry about it being intuitive when you get to choose the key bindings. but xine does it right without the need of editing the conf, so in my humble opinion, xine is better - I am lazy ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 15:46, abhay wrote: On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 5:31 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: FATAL: Konnte Videofilter (-vf) oder -ausgabetreiber (-vo) nicht initialisieren. I could not make much out of that error message (still need to learn a lot of languages ;) ) but looks like a problem with your video output driver settings. Check in /etc/mplayer.conf and ~/.mplayer/gui.conf as to which vo drivers you are using in each of them. gui.conf has correct vo_driver configuration while mplayer.conf doesn't. Hope that helps. hm, it used xvmc as default, I set it to xv and it worked. Andmplayer does indeed honor the aspect-ratio. Sadly, you are forced to have the window in the right ratio (not like xine, where you can have the window in every ratio you like, and xine adds blavk lines where needed). But still - when I do my right-click-open with mplayer, gmplayer starts. And gmplayer ignores the aspect ratio. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:14:18 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: mplayer also allows you to redefine all of these in its config file. You don't have to worry about it being intuitive when you get to choose the key bindings. but xine does it right without the need of editing the conf, so in my humble opinion, xine is better - I am lazy ;) No, you just used xine first, so its controls appeared more intuitive to you. If you'd got used to mplayer's controls first, you'd have the same complaint about xine. Very little about computer user interfaces is truly intuitive, it's just a matter of what you are used to. -- Neil Bothwick furbling, v.: Having to wander through a maze of ropes at an airport or bank even when you are the only person in line. -- Rich Hall, Sniglets signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 8:48 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Andmplayer does indeed honor the aspect-ratio. Sadly, you are forced to have the window in the right ratio (not like xine, where you can have the window in every ratio you like, and xine adds blavk lines where needed). mplayer -nokeepaspect file name But still - when I do my right-click-open with mplayer, gmplayer starts. And gmplayer ignores the aspect ratio. gmplayer is just the GUI part of mplayer and which imho needs a lot of work. On the other hand there is nothing better than the command line mplayer. Abhay pgp4p6nHsQR33.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:05:28 +0100 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: thanks, but that is pretty un-intuitive. xine uses arrow up/down for the speed... a combination where I do not need to span my fingers over half the keyboard.. there is a mechanism to change the keybindings to suit your choices. search the man page for -input. A list of events that can be configured, and commands that can be bound to them is obtainable like this: mplayer -input keylist mplayer -input cmdlist xine is couter intuitive for me as I am used to using the mplayer keybinding of up arrow for jump forward 1 minute. But mplayer also jumps forward with mouse wheel up, and backwards with mouse wheel down... the opposite of what I would expect. If you read a book, you read from top down.. so going downwards is forward. ;) in firefox ctrl-wheel button makes the font larger or smaller. (great late at night when tyour eyes are getting tired). in konqueror it also makes the font change size, but in the other direction. most frustrating! -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
Hi, For me it is more about which one of the video players I am able to properly configure. Right now I prefer gxine and kaffeine (xine-lib based). Those two pretty much can play anything. Regards, - AROn 11/15/05, Peper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello,what's the best video player in your opinion?--Best Regards,Peper--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- The absence of war does not mean peace.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
what's the best video player in your opinion? Kaffeine is great for playing DVDs. I use kaffeine when in KDE. Kplayer is also good. Kplayer can use xine or mplayer as the backend, which is a nice feature. I prefer mplayer with directfb on the console though. Mplayer simply is great! Do not underestimate VLC though. I had some problems with its GUI, because I didn't compile it with wxwindows support. That I guess is an error on my part. But VLC is great! I use VLC in Windows. Haven't used it as much on Linux, but I think VLC has the best sound output. Cheers, Mrugesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Tuesday 15 November 2005 15:48, Peper wrote: Hello, what's the best video player in your opinion? -- Best Regards, Peper xine with xine-ui mplayer is nice too, but while xine is able to save the correct aspect ratio while resizing, mplayer only has 100%, 200% and fullscreen. (if it does show the coorect aspect ratio, it is well hidden - and something well hidden does not count). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
mplayer without any front ends. mplayer filename the man page is very long but informative. mplayer also somes with the companion mencoder which has a good reputation in the transcoding stakes. xine and vlc also work well, and I have nothing against them except my familiarity with mplayer. I use vlc a lot on windows because it is not MS media player, and doesn't want to take over my machine. xine does do slightly better than mplayer with dvd because you get the full menu experience. everything else seems to be a front end to xine or mplayer or gstreamer, but as I can't get gstreamer to do anything on my system, and as the tools I have play all media i can throw at them anyway, I can't comment on the gstreamer stuff very well. On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:48:46 +0100 Peper wrote: Hello, what's the best video player in your opinion? -- Best Regards, Peper -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:47:46 +0100 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Tuesday 15 November 2005 15:48, Peper wrote: Hello, what's the best video player in your opinion? -- Best Regards, Peper xine with xine-ui mplayer is nice too, but while xine is able to save the correct aspect ratio while resizing, mplayer only has 100%, 200% and fullscreen. (if it does show the coorect aspect ratio, it is well hidden - and something well hidden does not count). I am not sure that you are at all correct. With mplayer I can resize a window with my mouse and the aspect is retained (ie i drag the window wider and it also gets taller). There are certainly no restrictions like 100/200% - any size seems to work. And aspect seems to work well when resizing to fullscreen too. If it is in some form of letterbox (eg 16:9) you get black lines above and below, just as expected. Some media formats (avi?) have a place in the header to specify aspect ratio, whereas others seem to leave it to the player to guess from the frame size. If the header doesn't specifiy then the player can get confused, but mplayer has the -aspect switch which seems to fix this on the rare occasion that it is an issue. And it is not well hidden, searching the man page for aspect turns it up. I see that there is also a switch called -nokeepaspect: -nokeepaspect Do not keep window aspect ratio when resizing windows. Only works with the x11, xv, xmga, xvidix, directx video output drivers. Furthermore under X11 your window manager has to honor window aspect hints. Maybe this is turned on in your machine? Check /etc/mplayer.conf (system wide) and ~/.mplayer/* -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Wednesday 16 November 2005 00:02, Nick Rout wrote: I am not sure that you are at all correct. With mplayer I can resize a window with my mouse and the aspect is retained (ie i drag the window wider and it also gets taller). There are certainly no restrictions like 100/200% - any size seems to work. And aspect seems to work well when resizing to fullscreen too. If it is in some form of letterbox (eg 16:9) you get black lines above and below, just as expected. Some media formats (avi?) have a place in the header to specify aspect ratio, whereas others seem to leave it to the player to guess from the frame size. If the header doesn't specifiy then the player can get confused, but mplayer has the -aspect switch which seems to fix this on the rare occasion that it is an issue. And it is not well hidden, searching the man page for aspect turns it up. I see that there is also a switch called -nokeepaspect: -nokeepaspect Do not keep window aspect ratio when resizing windows. Only works with the x11, xv, xmga, xvidix, directx video output drivers. Furthermore under X11 your window manager has to honor window aspect hints. Maybe this is turned on in your machine? Check /etc/mplayer.conf (system wide) and ~/.mplayer/* I do not have this options in any config, which are both the defaults one, but when I resize the (g)mplayer window with the mouse, the aspect ratio is totally ignored. Which is pretty annoying. Xine, on the other hand, does honor the aspect ratio. When the window is to tall or wide, black lines are added until the aspect is correct. Glück Auf Volker -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 00:20:35 +0100 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: I see that there is also a switch called -nokeepaspect: -nokeepaspect Do not keep window aspect ratio when resizing windows. Only works with the x11, xv, xmga, xvidix, directx video output drivers. Furthermore under X11 your window manager has to honor window aspect hints. Maybe this is turned on in your machine? Check /etc/mplayer.conf (system wide) and ~/.mplayer/* I do not have this options in any config, which are both the defaults one, but when I resize the (g)mplayer window with the mouse, the aspect ratio is totally ignored. Which is pretty annoying. Xine, on the other hand, does honor the aspect ratio. When the window is to tall or wide, black lines are added until the aspect is correct. Glück Auf Volker Interesting, is this on all files, or just some? Is it the same in gmplayer and mplayer? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 00:37, Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 00:20:35 +0100 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: I see that there is also a switch called -nokeepaspect: -nokeepaspect Do not keep window aspect ratio when resizing windows. Only works with the x11, xv, xmga, xvidix, directx video output drivers. Furthermore under X11 your window manager has to honor window aspect hints. Maybe this is turned on in your machine? Check /etc/mplayer.conf (system wide) and ~/.mplayer/* I do not have this options in any config, which are both the defaults one, but when I resize the (g)mplayer window with the mouse, the aspect ratio is totally ignored. Which is pretty annoying. Xine, on the other hand, does honor the aspect ratio. When the window is to tall or wide, black lines are added until the aspect is correct. Glück Auf Volker Interesting, is this on all files, or just some? Is it the same in gmplayer and mplayer? gmplayer -mplayer itself does refuse to run. Oh, but if you know mplayer so well, maybe you can tell me, how to fast forward (2x, 4x) in (g)mplayer? I do not mean skip forward some seconds, I mean real fast forward? The only reason I use (g)mplayer is, that it sometimes is able to play vids, xine barfs on (and vice versa, so both are needed). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
quoth the Hemmann, Volker Armin: On Wednesday 16 November 2005 00:02, Nick Rout wrote: I am not sure that you are at all correct. With mplayer I can resize a window with my mouse and the aspect is retained (ie i drag the window wider and it also gets taller). There are certainly no restrictions like 100/200% - any size seems to work. And aspect seems to work well when resizing to fullscreen too. If it is in some form of letterbox (eg 16:9) you get black lines above and below, just as expected. Some media formats (avi?) have a place in the header to specify aspect ratio, whereas others seem to leave it to the player to guess from the frame size. If the header doesn't specifiy then the player can get confused, but mplayer has the -aspect switch which seems to fix this on the rare occasion that it is an issue. And it is not well hidden, searching the man page for aspect turns it up. I see that there is also a switch called -nokeepaspect: -nokeepaspect Do not keep window aspect ratio when resizing windows. Only works with the x11, xv, xmga, xvidix, directx video output drivers. Furthermore under X11 your window manager has to honor window aspect hints. Maybe this is turned on in your machine? Check /etc/mplayer.conf (system wide) and ~/.mplayer/* I do not have this options in any config, which are both the defaults one, but when I resize the (g)mplayer window with the mouse, the aspect ratio is totally ignored. Which is pretty annoying. I have the exact same behavior here. All the options seem to imply that keeping the aspect ratio is the default, but it just isn't working like that. All the options in the man page involving 'aspect' describe how to change this default behavior (which isn't happening...) and logically negating them in mplayer.conf doesn't appear to work in the few attempts I've made. I'm using kde, perhaps it is interference by the WM at work here... To tell the truth though, this doesn't really bother me too much since I usually only use 'Double' or fullscreen size. It is odd though. -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 pgpsOqXUiAxac.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Interesting, is this on all files, or just some?
Is it the same in gmplayer and mplayer?
gmplayer -mplayer itself does refuse to run.
Oh, but if you know mplayer so well, maybe you can tell me, how to fast
forward (2x, 4x) in (g)mplayer? I do not mean skip forward some seconds, I
mean real fast forward?
I have never tried it, so I read the man page just now, and searched on
speed. I pretty quickly dound this:
general control
- and -
Seek backward/forward 10 seconds.
up and down
Seek backward/forward 1 minute.
pgup and pgdown
Seek backward/forward 10 minutes.
[ and ]
Decreases/increases current playback speed by 10%.
{ and }
Halves/doubles current playback speed.
so looks like [ ] { and } should be tried.
The only reason I use (g)mplayer is, that it sometimes is able to play vids,
xine barfs on (and vice versa, so both are needed).
same here, in reverse :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:50:49 -0800 darren kirby wrote: quoth the Hemmann, Volker Armin: On Wednesday 16 November 2005 00:02, Nick Rout wrote: I am not sure that you are at all correct. With mplayer I can resize a window with my mouse and the aspect is retained (ie i drag the window wider and it also gets taller). There are certainly no restrictions like 100/200% - any size seems to work. And aspect seems to work well when resizing to fullscreen too. If it is in some form of letterbox (eg 16:9) you get black lines above and below, just as expected. Some media formats (avi?) have a place in the header to specify aspect ratio, whereas others seem to leave it to the player to guess from the frame size. If the header doesn't specifiy then the player can get confused, but mplayer has the -aspect switch which seems to fix this on the rare occasion that it is an issue. And it is not well hidden, searching the man page for aspect turns it up. I see that there is also a switch called -nokeepaspect: -nokeepaspect Do not keep window aspect ratio when resizing windows. Only works with the x11, xv, xmga, xvidix, directx video output drivers. Furthermore under X11 your window manager has to honor window aspect hints. Maybe this is turned on in your machine? Check /etc/mplayer.conf (system wide) and ~/.mplayer/* I do not have this options in any config, which are both the defaults one, but when I resize the (g)mplayer window with the mouse, the aspect ratio is totally ignored. Which is pretty annoying. I have the exact same behavior here. All the options seem to imply that keeping the aspect ratio is the default, but it just isn't working like that. All the options in the man page involving 'aspect' describe how to change this default behavior (which isn't happening...) and logically negating them in mplayer.conf doesn't appear to work in the few attempts I've made. I'm using kde, perhaps it is interference by the WM at work here... Yes i will try it in kde tonight. However I suspect its more likely a video driver issue. see below. To tell the truth though, this doesn't really bother me too much since I usually only use 'Double' or fullscreen size. It is odd though. What output driver are you using? I am using xv Looking at the output of mplayer running from the command line should tell you. Also mplayer -vo help will give you a list of those available. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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I am interested in this discussion. I spent a weekend trying out several players. Of the few I tried, I liked xine-ui best, perhaps, for it's playability. However, ogle, goggles, and kmplayer give the gift of bookmarks. Is there any way to do bookmarks w/ Xine or Mplayer? Mplayer is nice also. Bookmarks are really important to me. Alan DavisOn 11/16/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:50:49 -0800darren kirby wrote: quoth the Hemmann, Volker Armin: On Wednesday 16 November 2005 00:02, Nick Rout wrote: I am not sure that you are at all correct. With mplayer I can resize a window with my mouse and the aspect is retained (ie i drag the window wider and it also gets taller). There are certainly no restrictions like 100/200% - any size seems to work. And aspect seems to work well when resizing to fullscreen too. If it is in some form of letterbox (eg 16:9) you get black lines above and below, just as expected. Some media formats (avi?) have a place in the header to specify aspect ratio, whereas others seem to leave it to the player to guess from the frame size. If the header doesn't specifiy then the player can get confused, but mplayer has the -aspect switch which seems to fix this on the rare occasion that it is an issue. And it is not well hidden, searching the man page for aspect turns it up. I see that there is also a switch called -nokeepaspect: -nokeepaspect Do not keep window aspect ratio when resizing windows.Only works with the x11, xv, xmga, xvidix, directx video output drivers.Furthermore under X11 your window manager has to honor window aspect hints. Maybe this is turned on in your machine? Check /etc/mplayer.conf (system wide) and ~/.mplayer/* I do not have this options in any config, which are both the defaults one, but when I resize the (g)mplayer window with the mouse, the aspect ratio is totally ignored. Which is pretty annoying. I have the exact same behavior here. All the options seem to imply that keeping the aspect ratio is the default, but it just isn't working like that. All the options in the man page involving 'aspect' describe how to change this default behavior (which isn't happening...) and logically negating them in mplayer.conf doesn't appear to work in the few attempts I've made. I'm using kde, perhaps it is interference by the WM at work here...Yes i will try it in kde tonight. However I suspect its more likely avideo driver issue. see below. To tell the truth though, this doesn't really bother me too much since I usually only use 'Double' or fullscreen size. It is odd though.What output driver are you using?I am using xvLooking at the output of mplayer running from the command line shouldtell you. Also mplayer -vo help will give you a list of those available.--Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:08:58 +1000 Alan E. Davis wrote: I am interested in this discussion. I spent a weekend trying out several players. Of the few I tried, I liked xine-ui best, perhaps, for it's playability. However, ogle, goggles, and kmplayer give the gift of bookmarks. Is there any way to do bookmarks w/ Xine or Mplayer? Mplayer is nice also. Bookmarks are really important to me. What do you mean bookmarks ? Do you mean a list or url's pointing to media files? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
quoth the Nick Rout: I have the exact same behavior here. All the options seem to imply that keeping the aspect ratio is the default, but it just isn't working like that. All the options in the man page involving 'aspect' describe how to change this default behavior (which isn't happening...) and logically negating them in mplayer.conf doesn't appear to work in the few attempts I've made. I'm using kde, perhaps it is interference by the WM at work here... Yes i will try it in kde tonight. However I suspect its more likely a video driver issue. see below. To tell the truth though, this doesn't really bother me too much since I usually only use 'Double' or fullscreen size. It is odd though. What output driver are you using? I am using xv Looking at the output of mplayer running from the command line should tell you. Also mplayer -vo help will give you a list of those available. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, well it seems this comes down to some difference between gmplayer and mplayer. I thought gmplayer was only the thinest of gui wrappers but maybe not. Running mplayer filename I get the intended behavior, and it uses the xv driver by default. If I run gmplayer file from the command line, it still uses the xv driver, but it does not maintain the aspect ratio. ??? -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 pgpARl8nn5ekX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
Bookmarks: Set a mark at certain places in a movie that one can return to. Set many. With one of the viewers, one can name the bookmarks. THis is valuable for teaching. Alan On 11/16/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:08:58 +1000Alan E. Davis wrote: I am interested in this discussion. I spent a weekend trying out several players. Of the few I tried, I liked xine-ui best, perhaps, for it's playability. However, ogle, goggles, and kmplayer give the gift of bookmarks. Is there any way to do bookmarks w/ Xine or Mplayer? Mplayer is nice also. Bookmarks are really important to me. What do you mean bookmarks ?Do you mean a list or url's pointing to media files?--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
