Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Just a couple of things: - The splitting could display another "view" of the same image, just like in blender. That would make working with views a breeze (for icons or pixel art, for instance). It doesn't need to be empty if you dragged it from an existing image window - About the problem of arra

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Peter: Thanks for your reply. You exposed some issues that I didn't took in consideration. Of course I'm not saying that Blender's UI can be ported as-is to GIMP. However I found some of those ideas pretty interesting for our case. > first I noticed this set-up has no rulers or scrollbars. we ha

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Alexia Death wrote: > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:17 AM, peter sikking > wrote: >> another thing I see here is filling the new tile immediately with the >> same thing as the parent one. > Auto filling fits with blender UI concept but not with gimp-s. Its > important to remember that in blender you

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:17 AM, peter sikking wrote: > another thing I see here is filling the new tile immediately with the > same thing as the parent one. I thought I wanted to do that too, but > then realised that in GIMP an empty tile would be automatically a > drag-n-drop target to open an im

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Guillermo, What do you think about the method for splitting/joining views in Blender 2.5? It's fast, it kinda covers the idea of the image parade and it allows to float a section as a new window. The only thing needed would be something to mark which is the active image and that would be enou

[Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Peter: What do you think about the method for splitting/joining views in Blender 2.5? It's fast, it kinda covers the idea of the image parade and it allows to float a section as a new window. The only thing needed would be something to mark which is the active image and that would be enough for mos

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Sep 29, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Nathan Summers wrote: > > I'm still thinking GIMP could benefit from Eclipse-style > "perspectives", where which dialogs are visible and which are hidden > are user-defined sets that can be switched between. The user can then > define which dialogs are useful for cer

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Cole wrote: >>>/ For developers: CurlyAnkles gtk+ lib has tab/tile widgets I'm talking > />>/ about: URL. > /> >> Eeek, here is the missing URL: >> http://curlyankles.sourceforge.net/widgets_docking.html > >> Alexandre > > Hello, > > I think the term single-window

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Cole wrote: > > > If implemented correctly the user that prefers a multiple-window mode gimp > wouldn’t > see much difference from the existing gimp version to a gimp version that > supported a > single-window mode. Only if I can dock non-GIMP windows there. J

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Cole wrote: I think the term single-window mode is potentially confusing. It's how you dock the windows together that gives the user the *perceived* single-window or multiple-window mode. well, if I have to formulate it, then single-window is users' preference for a flat working surface, where

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

>>/ For developers: CurlyAnkles gtk+ lib has tab/tile widgets I'm talking />>/ about: URL. /> > Eeek, here is the missing URL: > http://curlyankles.sourceforge.net/widgets_docking.html > Alexandre Hello, I think the term single-window mode is potentially confusing. It's how you dock the window

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

peter sikking writes: > hey guys, > > I have now blogged about the single-window mode: > > I was really getting excited about getting tabs in the image window (the "image parade" idea would achieve a similar function), since

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > For developers: CurlyAnkles gtk+ lib has tab/tile widgets I'm talking > about: URL. Eeek, here is the missing URL: http://curlyankles.sourceforge.net/widgets_docking.html Alexandre ___ Gimp

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:26 PM, peter sikking wrote: > hey guys, > > I have now blogged about the single-window mode: > > Peter, I'm afraid this is not going to work for a lot of users. Let's start with a mission statement:

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 23:49 -0400, Tom Rathborne wrote: > (I also use focus-follows mouse and no-autoraise :) ) Interesting to see the focus-follows-mouse and no-autoraise combination mentioned several times. In contrast, I use focus-follows-mouse with autoraise (with 0 delay). It allows me to ha

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Hi Peter, On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 07:26:10PM +0200, peter sikking wrote: > I have now blogged about the single-window mode: > > Great ideas! I won't be a single-window mode user, mainly because my window manager doesn't suck

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Hi Jolie, On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 01:00:15PM +0200, jolie S wrote: > When I work in GIMP what happens to me quite a lot is that I click > just next to a window of an image I'm working on and all my GIMP > windows are not shown on my screen anymore because I activated the > application I had visibl

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 13:00 +0200, jolie S wrote: > > When I work in GIMP what happens to me quite a lot is that I click just next > to a window of an image I'm working on and all my GIMP windows are not shown > on my screen anymore because I activated the application I had visibly open > below t

[Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:36:36 +0300 > From: Ville =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E4tsi?= > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 01:00:15PM +0200, jolie S wrote: > > For me the big difference is usability. When I work in GIMP what > > happens to me quite a lot is that I click just next to a window > > of a

[Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

>On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 8:30 PM, jolie S wrote: >> Also I've slept on it and given it some more thought and I'd like to ask >> again if you would please give having multiple images open at the same time >> some more thought. >> IMO being able to work on more images at the same time is VITAL for a

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:36:36 +0300 From: Ville =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E4tsi?= On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 01:00:15PM +0200, jolie S wrote: > For me the big difference is usability. When I work in GIMP what > happens to me quite a lot is that I click just next to a window > of an image

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Liam R E Quin wrote: > On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 20:51 +0930, David Gowers wrote: > >> Perhaps a split-panel option for single window mode would resolve >> this. (I believe we could still only reasonably show a maximum of 2 >> images at once; this is simply a limitatio

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 01:00:15PM +0200, jolie S wrote: > For me the big difference is usability. > When I work in GIMP what happens to me quite a lot is that I click just next > to a window of an image I'm working on and all my GIMP windows are not shown > on my screen anymore because I activate

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 20:51 +0930, David Gowers wrote: > Perhaps a split-panel option for single window mode would resolve > this. (I believe we could still only reasonably show a maximum of 2 > images at once; this is simply a limitation of the single-window > format AFAICS.) Do you mean that th

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 8:30 PM, jolie S wrote: > Also I've slept on it and given it some more thought and I'd like to ask > again if you would please give having multiple images open at the same time > some more thought. > IMO being able to work on more images at the same time is VITAL for a > pr

[Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

>jolie wrote: > >>> >> > >> >> Read your blog twice and think all the ideas are great. > >ah, thanks. > >> Commented there too but that was before I read it for the second time. >> >> An idea occurred to me. When you tear of

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

jolie wrote: >> > > > > Read your blog twice and think all the ideas are great. ah, thanks. > Commented there too but that was before I read it for the second time. > > An idea occurred to me. When you tear of the tabs, or

[Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

>hey guys, > >I have now blogged about the single-window mode: > > > >enjoy, > > --ps > > founder + principal interaction architect > man + machine interface works > > http://mmiworks.net/blog :

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

hey guys, I have now blogged about the single-window mode: enjoy, --ps founder + principal interaction architect man + machine interface works http://mmiworks.net/blog : on interaction ar

[Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

>Hi, > >We are making pretty good progress towards GIMP 2.8 which has turned >into an "everything but GEGL" release. I think it would make sense to >also go for a single-window mode in 2.8 and not 2.10 as originally >planned. > >By doing this we will be able to focus all resources on integrating >G

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:22 PM, peter sikking wrote: > I suspect most of them are gone, when things are implemented to spec. BTW, I'm really curious what you will decide to do with the currently existing Image Chooser combobox for SDI mode :) Alexandre _

[Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Yep single window mode will take away all the clutter that has right now for newbie :) Duh.. I reviewed Gimp 2.6 for Indian Linux magz, and now running a beginner tutus for the same. Now i have to revamp the tutorials again :P http://www.linuxforu.com/ -- Shashwat (via www.gimpusers.com) __

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Liam R E Quin wrote: >> OK, I am listening. >> >> can you explain to me how this worked better in 2.6? > > First, note that I said "right now" -- although strictly speaking > I should have said a month ago, I need to update. Sorry that I did not follow up on this sooner, but it may have been a g

[Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

>On 09/13/2009 12:41 AM, Chris Moller wrote: >> FWIW, a -1 from me on single window and a +1 on the existing >> multi-window. Single windows are generally too cluttered up with stuff >> you don't need at the moment and use screen space inefficiently. > >Let's clear this up once and for all: The

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On 09/13/2009 12:41 AM, Chris Moller wrote: > FWIW, a -1 from me on single window and a +1 on the existing > multi-window. Single windows are generally too cluttered up with stuff > you don't need at the moment and use screen space inefficiently. Let's clear this up once and for all: The single

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On 09/11/09 12:46, harold wrote: >> Hi, >> >> We are making pretty good progress towards GIMP 2.8 which has turned >> into an "everything but GEGL" release. I think it would make sense to >> also go for a single-window mode in 2.8 and not 2.10 as originally >> planned. >> >> By doing this we will b

[Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

>Hi, > >We are making pretty good progress towards GIMP 2.8 which has turned >into an "everything but GEGL" release. I think it would make sense to >also go for a single-window mode in 2.8 and not 2.10 as originally >planned. > >By doing this we will be able to focus all resources on integrating >G

[Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Not that one.. I am talking about this https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172615 There are lots of people and duplicate bug report for the same but never fixed :( >On Monday 07 September 2009, Martin Nordholts wrote: >> On 09/07/2009 07:07 PM, Shashwat wrote: >> > Whatever you guys do. Please m

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 17:49, Martin Nordholts wrote: > Hi, > > We are making pretty good progress towards GIMP 2.8 which has turned > into an "everything but GEGL" release. I think it would make sense to > also go for a single-window mode in 2.8 and not 2.10 as originally > planned. Please come b

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Saturday 05 September 2009, Martin Nordholts wrote: > A single-window mode would also turn 2.8 into a remarkable release, > with both layer-groups and a single-window mode, none of which were > originally planned for 2.8. Why not have it both ways - by simply making the toolboxes dockable... Th

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Monday 07 September 2009, Martin Nordholts wrote: > On 09/07/2009 07:07 PM, Shashwat wrote: > > Whatever you guys do. Please make it work with KDE kwin windows manager. The > > current UI doesn't work with Kwin or Compiz. > > You'll have to file a bug report with those window managers, there's

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 09:50 +0200, peter sikking wrote: > Liam wrote: > > > Right now gimp is broken for working on multiple projects (the > > file/save changes have rendered it too hard to keep track of > > where images are being "exported") but the use case is central > > (I think) to how "singl

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Omari Stephens wrote: The phrase "single-window mode" really means absolutely nothing to me. Can someone draw a simple mock-up to make it clear? I will blog about it soon, so you know what I am up to. --ps founder + principal interaction architect man + machine in

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Martin Nordholts wrote: > Hi, > > We are making pretty good progress towards GIMP 2.8 which has turned > into an "everything but GEGL" release. I think it would make sense to > also go for a single-window mode in 2.8 and not 2.10 as originally > planned. ::snip? SNIP!:: Hi, all. I might be daft,

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Monday 07 September 2009 20:13:23 Martin Nordholts wrote: > On 09/07/2009 07:07 PM, Shashwat wrote: > > Whatever you guys do. Please make it work with KDE kwin windows manager. > > The current UI doesn't work with Kwin or Compiz. > > You'll have to file a bug report with those window managers,

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

No objections--- mostly I would urge developers to plan what they're going to do, make the changes, and stick to it. I know that's always been the plan but it doesn't feel like it when you're using the different versions. The random UI changes that appear in each release throw off folks who use th

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On 09/07/2009 07:07 PM, Shashwat wrote: > Whatever you guys do. Please make it work with KDE kwin windows manager. The > current UI doesn't work with Kwin or Compiz. You'll have to file a bug report with those window managers, there's nothing GIMP can sensibly do about them not supporting the util

[Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Whatever you guys do. Please make it work with KDE kwin windows manager. The current UI doesn't work with Kwin or Compiz. The windows (toolbox and layerbox) won't stay on top if the behavior set to utility window. So hoping for overall better interface :) Best of luck. Regards -- Shashwat (vi

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Martin Nordholts wrote: > We are making pretty good progress towards GIMP 2.8 which has turned > into an "everything but GEGL" release. I think it would make sense to > also go for a single-window mode in 2.8 and not 2.10 as originally > planned. > > By doing this

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Liam wrote: Right now gimp is broken for working on multiple projects (the file/save changes have rendered it too hard to keep track of where images are being "exported") but the use case is central (I think) to how "single window" needs to work. OK, I am listening. can you explain to me how

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On Sun, 2009-09-06 at 06:37 +0200, David G. wrote: >I don't know why people mention so much that if you create a single window > Gimp that that it will not allow you to put your tools in a second monitor > because I used Photoshop also many times and despite it being a single window > program

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Martin Nordholts wrote: > I intend to start working on this asap, and peter will work on a UI > spec as soon as he gets time. If you have objections, please speak up. I personally don't have any objection. The current multi-window interface is not bad (it's actually quite useful in a multi-moni

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

"I personally, deffinitely prefer the Gimp being a program that always shows as a single entry in the taskbar that's really my main concern, it's just easier to manage single entry programs with a multiple applications workflow." But GIMP 2.7 solve that. Maybe you don't use 2.7. A single entry in

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

David G said >always opened like this and Gimp already has the ability to save it's layout too. Photoshop allowed this >perfectly and still was a single window program. i would like to have also the ability so save my workspace and change "inside" the gimp from. for example. paint workspace to a "

[Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

>I like modular structures becouse they allows more custom changes. So this >way you can change your layout of panels. But if all it would be in a single >window , ithink lot of users would thanks that. becouse i hear a lot..." >Gimp is nice , but his gui is ugly and uncomfortable.i don?t like to s

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

The single big problem with the MDI was when the toolbox and / or other boxes remain on top of other opened windows when you minimize the canvas window. Now with GIMP 2.7 things are changed so MDI will not be such a problem. But indeed a single window app. was a necessary step. Will be super OK i

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

I like modular structures becouse they allows more custom changes. So this way you can change your layout of panels. But if all it would be in a single window , ithink lot of users would thanks that. becouse i hear a lot..." Gimp is nice , but his gui is ugly and uncomfortable.i don´t like to see a

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

On 09/05/2009 06:22 PM, Richard Nespithal wrote: >> A single-window mode would also turn 2.8 into a remarkable release > is it possible, to switch back to multi-window mode in 2.8? That is not really relevant to this thread. (But yes of course it will be possible.) / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: h

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

> A single-window mode would also turn 2.8 into a remarkable release is it possible, to switch back to multi-window mode in 2.8? It's very hard to work within one window, especially if you're using more than one monitor (and edit many images) lg richy On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 17:49:22 +0200 Martin No

[Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

Hi, We are making pretty good progress towards GIMP 2.8 which has turned into an "everything but GEGL" release. I think it would make sense to also go for a single-window mode in 2.8 and not 2.10 as originally planned. By doing this we will be able to focus all resources on integrating GEGL once