[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Following that logic, such an exploit could be accomplished with a JPG
viewer or, for that matter, Paint. The PDF document is simply text,
graphics, and formatting information, similar to a postscript file. To my
knowledge, it doesn't contain any script or code;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Following that logic, such an exploit could be accomplished with a JPG
viewer or, for that matter, Paint. The PDF document is simply text,
graphics, and formatting information, similar to a postscript file. To
my
knowledge, it doesn't
Formats (was ZD on Linux)
Kenneth E. Lussier wrote:
Personally, I never understood PDF. What is so wrong with HTML and
embeded images? I have yet to see any real need for PDF's. There is no
real benefit to it.
PDF allows for precise control of both on screen viewing AND printing.
HTML
control. I guess I would call
it PDC format (Pretty Darn Close).
-Larry
-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Scott [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 9:29 AM
Subject:RE: Open Formats (was ZD on Linux)
SNIP
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I myself have never had a case where what I want to display is
EXACTLY the ONLY way I want to display it.
Me neither. Read on...
Personally, though, I absolutely hate going to a website to find that it
works great when I look at it from work
- Original Message -
From: Tilly, Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Greater NH Linux Users' Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: Open Formats (was ZD on Linux)
I'm just learning XML myself, so my details are slim right now, but w/ XSL
style sheets
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Rich C wrote:
3. Providing content that is guaranteed virus-free (as opposed to
transmitting word processor documents.)
The security analyst in me feels a need to point out that it would be quite
possible for Adobe Acrobat Reader to have a buffer-overflow or similar bug
- Original Message -
From: Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Greater NH Linux Users' Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: Open Formats (was ZD on Linux)
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Rich C wrote:
3. Providing content that is guaranteed virus-free
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Rich C wrote:
Following that logic, such an exploit could be accomplished with a JPG
viewer or, for that matter, Paint.
Very true. Such things *have* happened. In fact, many popular mail
programs (including Microsoft Outlook, Netscape Messenger, and Pine) have had
From: Rich C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Open Formats (was ZD on Linux)
Following that logic, such an exploit could be accomplished with a JPG
viewer or, for that matter, Paint.
Yep. And there probrably are. The thing with an image viewer or the
such is the formats are fairly locked
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From: Rich C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Open Formats (was ZD on Linux)
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From: Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Greater NH Linux Users' Group [EMAIL
- Original Message -
From: Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rich C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: Open Formats (was ZD on Linux)
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Rich C wrote:
Well if you're surfing the 'net as root in Linux (or any 'NIX,) you
deserve
Kenneth E. Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Personally, I never understood PDF. What is so wrong with HTML and
embeded images? I have yet to see any real need for PDF's. There is no
real benefit to it.
PDF essentially grew from Postscript. In the Olde Days, every printer had
its own
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote:
I also found
apache_mod_mp3 (http://software.tangent.org/projects.pl) that turns
apache into a streaming server ...
*Cool*! I know several people who will be very interested in that. Thanks
for the linkage!
I think that the Ogg project may
Benjamin Scott wrote:
A better analogy: Ogg may take over the 'net in the same way Napster did.
Free beer, I mean free music, is a powerful force. :-)
Yes, that is one application of it, but I don't want to emphisize it,
lest we may offend the RIAA ;-). However, the application that I was
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 02:05:28PM -0400, Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The whole all the world runs Microsoft Office perception is a problem, but
that is a different sort of problem. There already are open format
alternatives; it is just getting people to use them is hard.
I
Kenneth E. Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Personally, I never understood PDF. What is so wrong with HTML and
embeded images? I have yet to see any real need for PDF's.
For anything complicated that I am likely to print out (for example,
scholarly papers; especially those with footnotes
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Bob Bell wrote:
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 02:05:28PM -0400, Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The whole all the world runs Microsoft Office perception is a problem, but
that is a different sort of problem. There already are open format
alternatives; it is just
Several people have expressed interest in this since I posted it. For
some reason, there is no link to the faq from the main page. So, if
anyone is interested, it is http://media.tangent.org/faq.html .
C-Ya,
Kenny
Benjamin Scott wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote:
I also
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote:
Yes, that is one application of it, but I don't want to emphisize it, lest
we may offend the RIAA ;-).
IMO, the more we can do to offend the RIAA -- the better! :-)
Macromedia Shockwave/Flash and Adobe PDF come to mind.
Personally, I
Bob Bell said:
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 02:05:28PM -0400, Benjamin Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] w
rote:
The whole all the world runs Microsoft Office perception is a
problem, b
ut
that is a different sort of problem. There already are open format
alternatives; it is just getting people to use
Kenneth E. Lussier wrote:
Personally, I never understood PDF. What is so wrong with HTML and
embeded images? I have yet to see any real need for PDF's. There is no
real benefit to it.
PDF allows for precise control of both on screen viewing AND printing.
HTML does not.
That said, *MOST*
Benjamin Scott wrote:
P.S. What other formats/functions need an open source counterpart to
become a standard?
Macromedia Shockwave/Flash and Adobe PDF come to mind.
DVDs. :-)
Flash works under Linux and GPL... look here:
http://www.swift-tools.com/Flash/
Greg Dake wrote:
Flash works under Linux and GPL... look here:
http://www.swift-tools.com/Flash/
Yes, flash does work, and they have GPL'd some of their libraries, but
the format itself is still proprietary. I believe that one of the
RealPlayers is GPL'd as well (don't quote me on that),
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