On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 14:35 -0500, Ed Lawson wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 13:53:30 -0500
Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
New Potential Legislation
An Act establishing a committee to study requiring NH state
government to consider using open source software when
acquiring new
While Open Source projects do not have a sales and marketing arm to deal with
RFPs, corporations like Red Hat, Novell, IBM, HP, Dell, Sun and others do.
To a lesser extent, VARs, Distributors and Resellers also do answers to RFPs.
md
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Executive Director Linux
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I sent a note to Roy Maxfield, my rep and a sponsoring
committee-member, but I haven't heard anything back.
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Python wrote:
|On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 14:35 -0500, Ed Lawson wrote:
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|On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 13:53:30 -0500
|Ted Roche [EMAIL
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 01:29:08AM -0500, Ben Scott wrote:
On 1/9/06, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In general, I am still baffled by companies who withold
Linux drivers for their HW, my current employer included.
However, this article:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
In case you're wondering why they did this, it was cheaper for them to have
one manufacturing line for the cards and it also allowed them to make either
version of the card on demand.
In the mid-1970s Aetna Life and Casualty (at that time the largest commercial
user
On Jan 10, 2006, at 08:48, Python wrote:
However, I suspect another
issue is the RFP process commonly used for government purchases. Many
open source projects have no sales or marketing arm to deal with an
RFP.
Does anyone know if that really is an obstacle to getting open source
to
be
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From: Jon maddog Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mark Komarinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]; GNHLUG
gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: Rationale for not releasing drivers as FOSS
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
This may be a catch-22. I've considered applying for the approved vendors
list (there's a real name for that) but was told open source solutions
aren't usually considered so I didn't.
Bill,
Considering the bill going forward, perhaps the issue of open source
On 1/10/06, Mark Komarinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A company I previously worked for had two models of a card that were
exactly identical except for the exterior markings and the contents of a
PROM that was on the card.
Promise Tech has a few RAID cards that do just that. (RAID in
quotes
Getting on the list can be difficult. Most states have a 'Statewide
Contract' which means negotiating with the state purchasing folks. They
often demand special concessions (you can never charge us more than you
charge any other customer), access to internal sales information (so
they know
On Jan 10, 2006, at 10:25, Jon maddog Hall wrote:
Considering the bill going forward, perhaps the issue of open source
solutions
aren't usually considered is old news.
Yes, I'm aware of the thread topic. Note the use of past tense in my
statements - I'm suggesting the RFP process may have
Hi
Suppose that I have a file called abc.txt, which contains the following
5 lines (columns are delimited by ,)
name,age,school
jerry ,21,univ of Vermont
jesse,28,Dartmouth college
jack,18,univ of Penn
john,20,univ of south Florida
My OS is RedHat Enterprise, how could I extract the string
Like so: cat abc.txt | cut -d, -f3
Thanks.
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From: Zhao Peng [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:51 AM
To: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
Subject: extract string
Hi
Suppose that I have a file called abc.txt, which contains the following
5
Actually, if you are looking for only lines that contain the string univ,
then you would want to grep for it:
grep univ abc.txt | cut -f3 -d, dev.txt.
Paul's example would give you the third field of each line, even if they don't
have univ in them. Now, if you wanted to remove the quotes,
Kenny,
Thank you for your suggestion.
The following line works:
grep univ abc.txt | cut -f3 -d, dev.txt.
While the following line intended to remove quotes does NOT work:
grep univ abc.txt | cut -f3 -d, | sed s/\//g dev.txt
It resulted in a line starts with prompt, and not output dev.txt
On 1/10/06, Zhao Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how could I extract the string which
contains univ and create an output file called def.txt, which only has
3 following lines:
Here's one way, as a Perl one-liner:
perl -ne 'split ,; $_ = $_[2]; s/(^)|($)//g; print if m/univ/;'
abc.txt def.txt
On 1/10/06, Whelan, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Like so: cat abc.txt | cut -d, -f3
1. Randal Schwartz likes to call that UUOC (Useless Use Of cat). :-)
You can just do this instead:
cut -d, -f3 abc.txt
If you like the input file at the start of the command line, that's legal, too:
On 1/10/06, Zhao Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While the following line intended to remove quotes does NOT work:
grep univ abc.txt | cut -f3 -d, | sed s/\//g dev.txt
It resulted in a line starts with prompt, and not output dev.txt
The prompt indicates the shell thinks you are still in the
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Now your Lug can achieve its financial funding goals simply by charging
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All we
Zhao Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi
Suppose that I have a file called abc.txt, which contains the
following 5 lines (columns are delimited by ,)
name,age,school
jerry ,21,univ of Vermont
jesse,28,Dartmouth college
jack,18,univ of Penn
john,20,univ of south Florida
My OS is RedHat
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Here's one way, as a Perl one-liner:
perl -ne 'split ,; $_ = $_[2]; s/(^)|($)//g; print if m/univ/;'
abc.txt def.txt
Egads!
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually, if you are looking for only lines that contain the string univ,
then you would want to grep for it:
grep univ abc.txt | cut -f3 -d, dev.txt.
Why are you appending to dev.txt? (or def.txt even). Are you assuming
the file already exists and don't want to
Ooo, look! - a new business model for Lugs!
I happen to like these threads and far from regarding
them as a burden I think they're a pleasant diversion
and extremely useful as learning opportunities.
But I've been asking for a long time when our IPO will
be happening; we've got more talent
While it does seem like a few man page pointers would be better (more
instructive in the long run), I have to admit I wasn't familiar with
cut, so I've learned something from this one.
--Drew
On 1/10/06, Jeff Kinz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now your Lug can achieve its financial funding goals simply by charging
25 cents for each shell scripting homework problem answered and 50 cents
for extended explanations such as rendered below. :-)
I was wondering if I should raise the Ya know,
On 1/10/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
perl -ne 'split ,; $_ = $_[2]; s/(^)|($)//g; print if m/univ/;'
abc.txt def.txt
Egads!
Egads?
-- Ben As I was saying about explanation... Scott
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From: Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually, if you are looking for only lines that contain the string univ,
then you would want to grep for it:
grep univ abc.txt | cut -f3 -d, dev.txt.
Why are you
On 1/10/06, Drew Van Zandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While it does seem like a few man page pointers would be better (more
instructive in the long run), I have to admit I wasn't familiar with cut, so
I've learned something from this one.
Since we're on the subject...
Is there a tool that
Answer C: Who cares?
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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 4:01 PM
To: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
Subject: Homework problems (was: extract string)
Assume it is a homework problem. Does
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
While the following line intended to remove quotes does NOT work:
grep univ abc.txt | cut -f3 -d, | sed s/\//g dev.txt
It resulted in a line starts with prompt, and not output dev.txt
I can't see any reason why what state should be happening. As a matter of
fact,
On 1/10/06, Jon maddog Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was the senior systems administrator for Bell Labs in North Andover, MA. I
got the job without ever having seen a UNIX system.
Well, really. How many people *had* seen a UNIX system, back then? ;-)
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
It was
-- Original message --
From: Zhao Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kenny,
Thank you for your suggestion.
The following line works:
grep univ abc.txt | cut -f3 -d, dev.txt.
While the following line intended to remove quotes does NOT work:
grep univ abc.txt |
I agree..
Does it matter. We're here to help, discuss, and answer questions.
If you feel that your answer will cause more problems in the long run,
then don't answer.
Not having a degree, some of my best information has come from places
like this and other sources on the internet. In fact,
Ben Scott writes:
Is there a tool that quickly and easily extracts one or more columns
of text (separated by whitespace) from an output stream? I'm familiar
with the
awk '{ print $3 }'
mechanism, but I've always felt that was clumsy. I've tried to get
cut(1) to do it in the
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 04:13 pm, Brian wrote:
Answer C: Who cares?
All of us will care when the country has to depend on the products
of today's education system. Get ready for it. The standards are so
incredibly low that these graduates will not even know the buzz words
of
Sorry for the long delay folks - I finally got the audio/video
downloads all set from Doug McIlroy's talk Ancestry of Linux - How the
Fun Began at the last Quarterly Meeting in November for those who
couldn't make it or would like to review:
http://dlslug.org/past_meetings.html
I'm hosting
Jim Kuzdrall wrote:
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 04:13 pm, Brian wrote:
Answer C: Who cares?
All of us will care when the country has to depend on the products
of today's education system. Get ready for it. The standards are so
incredibly low that these graduates will not even know
On Jan 10, 2006, at 18:05, Travis Roy wrote:
How do we, as a list, tell what's a homework problem and what's a
legit question.
I think there's little substitute for knowing the membership. Zhao is
a programmer for Dartmouth Medical School.
-Bill
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jim Kuzdrall
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 5:45 PM
To: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
Subject: Re: Homework problems (was: extract string)
All of us will care when the country has to
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 04:01:05PM -0500, Ben Scott wrote:
On 1/10/06, Jeff Kinz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now your Lug can achieve its financial funding goals simply by charging
25 cents for each shell scripting homework problem answered and 50 cents
for extended explanations such as
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 1/10/06, Jon maddog Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was the senior systems administrator for Bell Labs in North Andover, MA. I
got the job without ever having seen a UNIX system.
Well, really. How many people *had* seen a UNIX system, back then?
On 1/10/06, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 10, 2006, at 18:05, Travis Roy wrote: How do we, as a list, tell what's a homework problem and what's a legit question.I think there's little substitute for knowing the membership.Zhao isa programmer for Dartmouth Medical School.
For, or
On 1/10/06, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A programmer that doesn't know how to grep and split text strings..
Believe it or not, there are environments *other* then nix, and a
great many well-qualified professionals have never touched nix. I
don't just mean doze, either. Classic
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 07:56:46PM -0500, Thomas Charron wrote:
On 1/10/06, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 10, 2006, at 18:05, Travis Roy wrote:
How do we, as a list, tell what's a homework problem and what's a
legit question.
I think there's little substitute for
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 07:56:46PM -0500, Thomas Charron wrote:
A programmer that doesn't know how to grep and split text strings..
Well.. Isn't..
I know of several ways to do it, but none of them would have worked as
well as the cut solution presented here. I've been working on Linux as
Ben,
The content of /etc/redhat-release file shows:
Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 4 (Nahant Update 2)
Thank you.
Zhao
Ben Scott wrote:
[CC'ing the list with the OP's permission. Please include the list in
any replies.]
On 1/2/06, Zhao Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you for
On Jan 10, 2006, at 20:16, Christopher Schmidt wrote:
The lack of knowledge of a simple command line tool to do what you want
it to does not indicate whether someone is a programmer or not. It
simply indicates one thing -- their level of experience with core *nix
tools. Lack of that is not an
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 08:16:47PM -0500, Christopher Schmidt wrote:
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 07:56:46PM -0500, Thomas Charron wrote:
A programmer that doesn't know how to grep and split text strings..
Well.. Isn't..
I know of several ways to do it, but none of them would have
Does anyone know of any BSD user groups in NH or the greater Boston area? I've
been a long time user, but always get drawn back to BSD bases systems for some
reason.
-Martin
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On 1/10/06, Martin Ekendahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know of any BSD user groups in NH or the greater Boston area?
I've been a long time user, but always get drawn back to BSD bases systems
for some reason.
Well, there's GNHLUG. Despite the name, we're really about way more
Martin Ekendahl wrote:
Does anyone know of any BSD user groups in NH or the greater Boston
area? I've been a long time user, but always get drawn back to BSD bases
systems for some reason.
BLU? at http://www.blu.org/ might fit. However, it seems rather
Linux-centric.
I hang out on this
On 1/10/06, Jason Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hang out on this list (and not any from BLU) and I'm a big FreeBSD
fan ...
If enough people are interested in starting something, I might be able
to find the time to help out. I really shouldn't promise anything, though.
I speak only
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 06:05 pm, Travis Roy wrote:
Just let it go, if you think it's somebody cheating then don't
answer, or give them a vague answer or point them to places where
they can learn about it rather then copy it off of.
That is my technique too. I get to answer a lot of
On 1/10/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
perl -ne 'split ,; $_ = $_[2]; s/(^)|($)//g; print if m/univ/;'
abc.txt def.txt
Egads!
That's a literal start at a Perl bring the grep sed and cut-or-awk
into one process, but it's not maximally Perl-ish. It is also
inefficient, it
A sad, sad truth that I've come to accept is that I have PINE's keystrokes
emblazoned in my memory. I use it at least once a year, whether I need to
or not, and I never even have to pause. They keystrokes are just THERE.
I tried MUTT. No dice. Never was a big ELM fan. And GUIs are certainly
Hi All,
First I really cannot be more grateful for the answers to my question
from all of you, I appreciate your help and time. I'm especially touched
by the outpouring of response on this list., which I have never
experienced before anywhere else.
Secondly I'm sorry for the big stir-up as
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