Re: Boston Linux Meeting Wednesday, November 15, 2006 Porting the Linux kernel

2006-11-08 Thread Jerry Feldman
That's ok. My cell is 617-633-8939. Let me know if you if you are going to be later than 1900. BTW: JABR also works in Westford. On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:55:11 -0500 Jon Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: When: November 15, 2006 7:00PM (6:30 for QA) Topic: Porting the

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Tom Buskey
On 11/7/06, Randy Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those of you here who are already using MythTV, how do you find it works in day-to-day usage? Brilliantly. I have a back end on Debian Etch/Testing with 3 tuners (a PVR-350 and a PVR-500) and while the IVTV drivers aren't the most

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Thomas Charron
On 11/8/06, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can Myth be used like a PC displaying on the TV?I use Galleon on theTivo to play shoutcast, show weather, podcasts, movie times andlocations, etc.I'd imagine Myth can do that. *nod* It can web browse, minus the Java, etc.. And if the data is present

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Ted Roche
On Nov 7, 2006, at 8:43 PM, Ben Scott wrote: Absolutely. The thought of TV without a good DVR is totally unacceptable to me now. It's obvious we don't have to sell you on the joys of PVR. The question you asked was whether MythTV is as Hands-Off as Tivo, and I think the answer is No.

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Ted Roche
On Nov 8, 2006, at 8:10 AM, Tom Buskey wrote: On the Tivo, I can tell it to record everything with an actor (Tom Hanks say) or genre (motorcycle racing) or keyword (quilting). When I select a series, I can say only 1st run; no repeats. I guess alot of that comes down to the quality of your

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Dave Johnson
Ben Scott writes: Those of you here who are already using MythTV, how do you find it works in day-to-day usage? I've been using MythTV for about 2 years or so. I like it alot better than the tivo I had before that. It has it's bugs, but they are usually minor and can be worked around

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Travis Roy
If you want the best how-to for MythTV for just getting a box up and working then this is it: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php I used it the two times I set up a myth box and it was great. But having a Tivo that just works and as somebody that loves the suggestions feature (something

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/8/06, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, that's been my mindset, and Myth has met that criteria well. It's completely revamped the way I watch TV. The number of hours watched has fallen a lot, but the quality of what I watch has skyrocketed. I'm in a All good stuff for

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/8/06, Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really like the split model [backend + frontend(s)] which allows me to have a fanless, diskless, no-moving-parts frontend computer for the TV and a big server in the garage^H^H^H^H^H^H^H server-room. Now, that is neat. And, ironically,

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/8/06, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question you asked was whether MythTV is as Hands-Off as Tivo, and I think the answer is No. While the tweaking involved is pretty minor, there probably are a few more rough edges to work out. [...] Well, I haven't even read the manual yet.

Re: Transportable HDD recommendations or warnings

2006-11-08 Thread Dan Jenkins
Ted Roche wrote: I've got a client who would like to image his half-dozen workstations and store the images off-site as part of a disaster recovery plan. We're planning on using Knoppix and partimage to snapshot the machines, The workstations are run-of-the-mill Dell Dimensions, fairly new,

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Travis Roy
We are, after all, comparing a multi-million-dollar consumer appliance with an unfunded open-source project. The fact that they are of a comparable value is a remarkable tribute to the Open Source process, imo. Absolutely. I'm not trying to disparage MythTV. I'm just trying to make a

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Randy Edwards
What's the payback for giving away guide data? It's funny you mention that. Just yesterday I corrected the guide's channel listings for my local cable company. Besides corrections like that, the guide needs to encourage people to code apps to their service, which some Mythers do.

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Dave Johnson
Ben Scott writes: Note you can get unencrypted HD off of Cable in addition to OTA. Any idea how many unencrypted HD channels there are? Every broadcast channel. In my case that's the HD versions of: 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 25, 38 last I checked In addition, comcast sends 2 version of the analog

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/8/06, Randy Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the payback for giving away guide data? It's funny you mention that. Just yesterday I corrected the guide's channel listings for my local cable company. Hmmm, kinda like a FreeDB.org for TV. *nods* Besides corrections like that,

Getting started w/ MythTV [was Re: Tivo vs MythTV]

2006-11-08 Thread Paul Lussier
This has been a very interesting and informative thread, thanks for the education! I've been on-the-fence wrt Tivo for several years now. I've always loved the idea, but just never gotten around to getting one. I thought about setting up MythTV, but at the time it sounded like it something you

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread Ted Roche
On Nov 8, 2006, at 8:56 AM, Ben Scott wrote: I do wonder about the guide data for MythTV. I guess it's freely available on the 'net right now? Will that last, I wonder, if MythTV really started to gain market share. (Say, because turn-key MythTV boxes enabled more adoption.) I'm always

Re: Tivo vs MythTV

2006-11-08 Thread Paul Lussier
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From what I've read, Hauppauge is *the* brand of card to get, but I'm a little confused about the differences between the PVR-150 and the PVR-250. Is it just the software bundle, or is the hardware different, too? Also, does the decoder/output on the

Re: Transportable HDD recommendations or warnings

2006-11-08 Thread Jeff Macdonald
Apologies to Dan as he'll be seeing this message twice. Ted Roche wrote: I've got a client who would like to image his half-dozen workstations and store the images off-site as part of a disaster recovery planSo have you looked at S3 at Amazon? Just do all this stuff over the net. -- Jeff

Re: Transportable HDD recommendations or warnings

2006-11-08 Thread Ted Roche
On Nov 7, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Ted Roche wrote: I've got a client who would like to image his half-dozen workstations and store the images off-site as part of a disaster recovery plan. Follow-up: Picked up a Seagate 250 Gb drive at Circuit City last night for $135. Tested it out on my

Re: Tivo vs MythTV

2006-11-08 Thread Paul Lussier
Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Every broadcast channel. In my case that's the HD versions of: 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 25, 38 last I checked In addition, comcast sends 2 version of the analog channels over the coax. An analog version for for people without set-top boxes and a digital SD

Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)

2006-11-08 Thread fj1200
-- Original message -- From: Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ben Scott writes: Those of you here who are already using MythTV, how do you find it works in day-to-day usage? I've been using MythTV for about 2 years or so. I like it alot better than the

Re: Getting started w/ MythTV [was Re: Tivo vs MythTV]

2006-11-08 Thread Randy Edwards
I'd like a back-end server with lots of disk space and maybe 2 or 3 capture cards that I can stuff somewhere out of site, There are a variety of tuner cards available for Myth now. To me, multiple cards are about mandatory, even if you don't watch much TV. I love the PVR-500 (2 tuners

Re: Transportable HDD recommendations or warnings

2006-11-08 Thread Michael ODonnell
Follow-up: Picked up a Seagate 250 Gb drive at Circuit City last night for $135. ...and for my follow-up (not that anybody asked) I'm happy to report that I was able to back-port USB support from the kernel.org/2.4.33 sources into the RHEL3 2.4.21-ish sources and, so far, it's looking pretty

Re: Tivo vs MythTV

2006-11-08 Thread Paul Lussier
Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can also just plug in the coax to a HDTV with a digital tuner and get the same result. Hmm, I didn't know that. How do I find the HD channels? When I tune my TV to the channel number advertised by Comcast, I get a black screen. Presumably that

Re: Tivo vs MythTV

2006-11-08 Thread Dave Johnson
Paul Lussier writes: Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can also just plug in the coax to a HDTV with a digital tuner and get the same result. Hmm, I didn't know that. How do I find the HD channels? When I tune my TV to the channel number advertised by Comcast, I get a black

Re: Tivo vs MythTV

2006-11-08 Thread Thomas Charron
See http://www.pchdtv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=882sid=790b0250ceaa189090e790e53c445505 Comcast does randomize their frequency usage, which is a big nono for them to do, but they do it apperently. But basically, you just have to find the frequency. There are utilizites that will scan for them,

Re: Tivo vs MythTV

2006-11-08 Thread Kevin D. Clark
I for one am really enjoying this thread. I don't watch a lot of TV shows, don't own a DVR device, etc., but maybe some sort of DVR or HD device will be in my future. I used to work at a small video editing shop a long time ago but ever since then I am woefully behind the times when it comes to

Re: Getting started w/ MythTV [was Re: Tivo vs MythTV]

2006-11-08 Thread Thomas Charron
The higher end PVR cards will work with MythTV and work well with nearly all major brand motherboards out there. The cost diference between, say, the PVR-150, 250, 300, 500, etc, is the inclusion of hardware based encoders. A 600 Mhz machine can easily recoder 2 channels when a dual input board

MythTV / DirecTV possible solution *FOUND*

2006-11-08 Thread Thomas Charron
Hrm.. It would seem I was partially incorrect. DirecTV USED to have a DirecTV/Tivo HD box named the HR10-250. They dont make them anymore, I'm looking into the differences between the capabilities the HR10-250 providers. It can aperently be hacked as easy as any other Tivo, and hence, get it's

Re: Getting started w/ MythTV [was Re: Tivo vs MythTV]

2006-11-08 Thread Dave Johnson
Paul Lussier writes: So, for these 2 systems, can someone give me a rough list of the essential-to-have hardware and the cost analysis? My main goal here is ease of installation/configuration and minimizing as much as possible hardware incompatibility frustration. I.e., if there's a

Re: MythTV / DirecTV possible solution *FOUND*

2006-11-08 Thread Thomas Charron
Scratch that. Would kinda work, but can't record the majority of the new HD content beng broadcast from DirecTV's new sats. Guess I just leave 'em at low def and cry. Thomas On 11/8/06, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hrm.. It would seem I was partially incorrect. DirecTV USED to have a

Re: Getting started w/ MythTV [was Re: Tivo vs MythTV]

2006-11-08 Thread Jeff Macdonald
On 11/8/06, Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Lussier writes: So, for these 2 systems, can someone give me a rough list of the essential-to-have hardware and the cost analysis?Or you could just buy a pre-built system. http://www.monolithmc.com/Courtesy of Google Ads (note, I haven't

Re: Transportable HDD recommendations or warnings

2006-11-08 Thread Ted Roche
On Nov 8, 2006, at 12:02 PM, Michael ODonnell wrote: ...and for my follow-up (not that anybody asked) I'm happy to report that I was able to back-port USB support from the kernel.org/2.4.33 sources into the RHEL3 2.4.21-ish sources and, so far, it's looking pretty stable. That's great. Now,

Re: Transportable HDD recommendations or warnings

2006-11-08 Thread Michael ODonnell
...and for my follow-up (not that anybody asked) I'm happy to report that I was able to back-port USB support from the kernel.org/2.4.33 sources into the RHEL3 2.4.21-ish sources and, so far, it's looking pretty stable. That's great. Now, is this USB for storage devices or for HID (Human

Re: MythTV / DirecTV possible solution *FOUND*

2006-11-08 Thread Travis Roy
Worthless. the HD TiVo box that DirecTV sold only supports premium HD content and will NOT support DirecTV HD Local channels. They are encrypted in a different way (mpeg4) that the HD DirecTiVo can never support due to hardware limitations. On Nov 8, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Thomas Charron

Re: MythTV / DirecTV possible solution *FOUND*

2006-11-08 Thread Thomas Charron
On 11/8/06, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Worthless. the HD TiVo box that DirecTV sold only supports premium HDcontent and will NOT support DirecTV HD Local channels.They are encrypted in a different way (mpeg4) that the HD DirecTiVocan never support due to hardware limitations. Yea, I was

Re: MythTV / DirecTV possible solution *FOUND*

2006-11-08 Thread Travis Roy
Unless, of course, DirecTV wanted to set them up so they could move away. ;-) DirecTV/TiVo contract was going to be up in 2006 when they came up with it, and they both knew it wasn't going to be renewed. They have since been forced by the customer base to support existing

Re: MythTV / DirecTV possible solution *FOUND*

2006-11-08 Thread Thomas Charron
Sad part is, if I had a choice, I'd go with Tivo or some other solution. But with no choice, all I can do is complain and eat their PVR solution for HD. I'd rather have something I dislike then nada at all. Thomas ( Going back to pouting and sighing) On 11/8/06, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Tivo vs MythTV

2006-11-08 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/8/06, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comcast does randomize their frequency usage, which is a big nono for them to do, but they do it apperently. I'm *shocked* to hear that. ;-) Bear in mind, this is for NON ENCRYPTED HD signals. Some channels transmitted in HD will

Re: MythTV / DirecTV possible solution *FOUND*

2006-11-08 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/8/06, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But with no choice, all I can do is complain and eat their PVR solution for HD. I'd rather have something I dislike then nada at all. Unfortunately, most of their customer base does the same thing. If everyone said, No, I'm the customer

Re: Transportable HDD recommendations or warnings

2006-11-08 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/8/06, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... the box would wedge tightly while accessing Storage devices, but after a lot of analysis it became clear to me that the ehci-hcd module was likely the primary culprit. Further translation: The bug(s) were in the Linux kernel's use of

Video formats

2006-11-08 Thread Paul Lussier
So, with all this talk about PVRs etc., a question arose I figured someone here might know the answer to. I occassionally download a missed show via bit-torrent. I know from trial and error, that I want to get files named like Some.Show.S02E07.HDTV.XviD-, where '' if one of: NoTV, XOR,

Re: Video formats

2006-11-08 Thread Steven C. Peterson
As i understand it that is the person/group who put the rip/release to the Internet show.season(SX)Episode(EX).Resolution.Codec-Releaser and somtime you will see the network it was release on EX .Bittorent/eMule ..etc Steven Paul Lussier wrote: So, with all this talk about PVRs etc., a

Apache as SSL front-end for lame web app

2006-11-08 Thread Ben Scott
Hi list, Hoping someone who knows more about Apache than I do can answer this quickly and easily, or point me in the right direction. Say I've got a lame web application running on a lame OS. No real authentication in the app. No SSL. Can't touch the config of the app's host OS or web

Re: Apache as SSL front-end for lame web app

2006-11-08 Thread Bill Ricker
I found http://3cx.org/item/46, which I think tells me how to use mod_proxy to do the forwarding and SSL encapsulation. That's kind of what I was thinking. But can I throw some HTTP authentication on top of that, too? Sounds reasonable. But I don't know if you can force local

Re: Tivo vs MythTV

2006-11-08 Thread Chip Marshall
On November 08, 2006, Ben Scott sent me the following: Another practical upshot of all that is that you'll never see a Linux PC that you can plug a CableCARD into. I suspect you'll never even be able to do it on 'doze. The cable operators want things locked up tight. There are/will be

Re: Tivo vs MythTV

2006-11-08 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/8/06, Chip Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are/will be CableCard adapters for PCs, such as the ATi OCUR (Open Cable Uni-directional Receiver), but from what I've seen, they'll only be available to Windows Media Center PC OEMs. Well, since all a CableCARD is is a PCMCIA card,

Re: Getting started w/ MythTV [was Re: Tivo vs MythTV]

2006-11-08 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/8/06, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The cost diference between, say, the PVR-150, 250, 300, 500, etc, is the inclusion of hardware based encoders. That's what I expected, but it's confusing as hell. Their marketing department needs to work on product differentiation on their